Why Downtown Dallas Can't Fill Its "Zombie" Office Towers - D CEO Magazine
Posted by lithdoc@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 107 comments
Posted by lithdoc@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 107 comments
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
Interesting article. I find the parking argument a bit specious. These places were all built before DART rail came online. You're telling me they were adequately parked before that, but now in an era with rail access to downtown and much more residential in walking, biking, and bus distance, you need more parking?
Javayen@reddit
Right? They kept saying that these towers don’t have enough parking as if people rode into downtown on horses in the 1970s. People had no problems parking in 2015. They’re empty because people are working from home and no one wants to live downtown because it’s not walkable, the trains only take you to places even less walkable and there’s few/no grocery stores.
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
Issue is that many parking lots/garages have closed. From time those buildings where placed, to today. There is a smaller number of parking spots today in downtown, than 2015 for sure…
Smurfeggs42@reddit
And yet cities with actual rapid transit and incredibly fewer parking than we have downtown is flourishing with business. Dallas is just dumb
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
Those cities probably did not have aggressive suburbs that were offering better deals.
Smurfeggs42@reddit
True It's just a shame that we haven't done more to make downtown more accessible
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
More accessible? DART has buses and light rail?
Or do you mean walkable? Yeah, Dallas was really built up post WW2. So more car centric.
Smurfeggs42@reddit
Little of both, I guess like having the dart rail with more stops compared to where they are now. I visited my sister in Chicago and man they're whole setup is nice as hell for transit
arlenroy@reddit
I was going to say, there's definitely less available parking than 10 years ago, let alone 30 or 40 years ago. I'm sure there's an info graphic somewhere of the available parking in 1996 compared to 2026, its absolutely less now. However, Mockingbird has a good size parking area for Dart, its like a 10 minute ride on the redline and you're 5 minutes from most of the towers. All that being said, Dallas, well Texas in general, has a big car culture mentality. People want to drive, people like to drive, people want that freedom to move about whenever they want. Comparatively to say Boston, a little larger market yes, but they were looking at making their public transportation in certain areas free. Running straight off tax income, because so many people use it for work the city wanted to keep those people working, they didn't want to hinder anyone. In Dallas, those same people drive their Ford F250 or their BMW X7, they would not be bothered with public transportation. In their minds thats for the poors, I don't think that will ever change.
stykface@reddit
You are absolutely right about Dallas (and Texas in general) being a car culture.
The-William-Munny@reddit
It’s not because we think of public transit as being “for the poors”. As much as it’s cultural. I’ve always said if it weren’t for cars and AC, the south wouldn’t exist. I ran a deep Gemini program on DART and it ranks near the bottom in service per dollar collected. Distance is the biggest hindrance coupled with lack of density. Oddly, buses have the highest recovery rate and light rail is a black hole, yet all the money is going to light rail. Also, relative to cars it’s a quality of life thing. So convenient. Also not helping is no longer really having a single downtown.
zughzz@reddit
People here don’t know how great & effective a society can be with public transportation. We are one of the most dangerous metroplexes to drive in, and one of the biggest cities WITHOUT public transportation.
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
Main issue with Dallas transit is time. I could take buses or light rail to commute to my job. But it’s 60-70 minutes.
Or I can drive myself in 15-20 minutes. Wonder why I keep driving.
So then it becomes an issue of more/better routes. That takes money and no guarantee voters would approve to add more taxes to transit.
Aire_Filter@reddit
We were at Mockingbird Station on Saturday to ride the train to the PAC for a concert. That good size parking area you mention at Mockingbird is gone! They are currently excavating that huge front lot for a building. The only parking is further back behind the retail portion on the left. One ok size lot but easily less than half of what used to be park-n-ride as recently as last year.
BobHadABabyItzABoy@reddit
I am not disagreeing with you folks, but I will say as a new Dallas resident, downtown parking is some of the worst and most expensive I have dealt with in a city of its caliber. Like this ain't NY, Boston I'd say Dallas lives on a plane with Denver, Atlanta.
I have lived in all 3 of those plus Miami, Chicago and others and I hate parking in Dallas more than anything so far.
Not sure what it is, but its a combo between quality of garage and pricing.
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
Office floor plans look nothing like they did in the S&L era when most of the noticable office buildings in Downtown Dallas were built. Floorplans are much more dense, less offices, smaller offices when you get one, and cubicles have gone the way of the dodo in exchange for tables butted up against each other with 1ft high glass separators.
Also there was a decent amount more surface parking back in the 70's and 80's. Lastly, when the Urban Planning zealots in the Laura Miller era Dallas city government went full kamikaze on the tunnel system, they broke up centralized access to multiple parking garages from almost any notable building in the DTD core. You feasibly could have parked in the Jackson St Garage in the 1970 through early 2000's and walked in air-conditioned subterranean hallways all the way to Bank of America Plaza if you wanted. Now if you want to use that garage you can walk blocks and enjoy the swamp ass and homeless people fent walking by you. But hey, we closed down a few sandwich shops and sundry vendors in the underground!... and no they didn't reopen anywhere above ground.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
As someone that lives downtown and enjoys walking everywhere, I’m confused that it’s not “walkable?”
Shellstr@reddit
Open floor plans. Until \~2015, I had a high walled cubicle. Lots more closed door offices. About 50 people on the whole floor. We now have 100+ people on our floor, no assigned desk, only 2 offices on the entire floor.
Lurcher99@reddit
It's walkable, underground, in a climate controlled area. Dallas po-pooed what I consider an attribute wanting it to look busier.
Lightofmine@reddit
Yeah I don't buy it. They could build parking garages underground. What are we talking about.
krollAY@reddit
It’s completely backwards. There is no way adding 10 parking garages is going to fix the problem. These developers need to read like 1 urban planning book.
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
The challenge with your average academic "Urban Planning Book" is they rarely account for Sunbelt urban planning and seek to apply Coastal or European planning as the defacto standard in urban planning.
The thing with America, is there's a lot of different versions of correct. What works for one region doesn't work for others.
krollAY@reddit
Inducing demand for vehicles doesn’t work well for any city center anywhere.
214forever@reddit
They were never adequately parked. Most of the buildings only provide 1 parking space per 1,000 square feet of office. The standard today is 3 spaces per 1,000 square feet.
The problem is downtown developers outsourced their parking to off-site surface lots and garages, and most employers and employees detest the idea of driving 35-45 minutes one way, then walking another 10 minutes in the summer heat or rain to get to their building lobby.
The fastest growing white collar labor pools live in Collin County suburbs—which lack transit—on the Dallas North Tollway, which is far from the two rail lines that serve downtown. Transit is great, but not a realistic substitute for adequate parking in sprawled metros like Dallas
Delicious_Hand527@reddit
None of the offices in Plano have as much surface parking as downtown does in total, and they are getting rid of surface parking, replacing with buildings. It has nothing to do with parking it has to do with commute. 15k people in total live in DT, over 6k live in Legacy. Dallas should be embarrassed.
Swirls109@reddit
The commute is the killer. Lets say I'm a highly skilled employee at Capital One or Morgan Chase in Plano. I get let go or I start looking for a new position. Why on earth would I ever want to commute to downtown dallas for 2 hours round trip a day?
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
So a few Redditors will think more highly of you!
CuriousCamels@reddit
Yeah, the numbers don’t lie. Even if you go through with conversions on some of the buildings, you still need parking for those places. There’s so many parking lots that could be converted to parking garages. There is the problem of proximity to the buildings you mentioned, but it’d at least be a more efficient use of space.
I’m definitely pro public transit, but it’s a pipe dream that many people in the metroplex are going to give up their cars. It’s great to have it for the people who want/need to use it, but the area is always going to primarily be car centric. Downtown Dallas needs to account for that as it hopefully gets modernized and revitalized.
MisterHonkeySkateets@reddit
Always? Could go subway and connect the buildings using subsurface tunnels that may or may not already exist
FirstAmendAnon@reddit
I know Mike Ablon very well. He is a smart dude and knows real estate and the dallas market. He says the biggest issue is parking i would trust him. I live nearby in deep ellum and I know I hate trying to park in downtown.
Delicious_Hand527@reddit
I don't personally know him, but I've seen his plans for literally decades. They are standard trash. Strongly disagree he 'knows' real estate or any thing specific about Dallas.
Jedi_Hog@reddit
And I’m sure he would profit handsomely if his “fixes” were implemented
Vycaus@reddit
Lol at the population numbers for Dallas now and I'm 2010, 2015, 2020. I've been here for 30 years and the amount of people here is getting to be way way too much.
Also, no one really lives downtown anymore. It's all high density apts. If you have a family, you moved north. And if you live in Plano, the commute down to downtown and neck is an hour each way in grid lock traffic. No one is doing that.
On top of that, there are. SO many offices in Plano and up near Frisco that people will drive too with better high ways.
As to the dart, it's still to far for most people. There are so many stops that it doesn't actually have any time. Sure you can read it something, but working professionals aren't driving to a train stop and then sitting on a train for 45, and then walking strong down town to then climb into a tower. No one is taking that job.
Boo-Bees67@reddit
Downtown also was the only show in town until the tollway started going north. There’s now 5 x as much office space on tollway than downtown. Add in uptown and it’s easy to see why no one wants to office down there. Don’t have to deal with the bums and traffic trying to get in to downtown
meleant@reddit
You nailed it. The reasons are multi-factorial, but pinning it on parking had to have been one of the least defensible reasons.
The author then argues the buildings may need to be torn down on account of not having enough parking. Why not just build the necessary garages then if that’s really the problem?
LostinIKEA512@reddit
There used to be a lot more open parking lots all around downtown. All the way from main Street to uptown was a sea of parking lots. I used to pay $3 per day in these open lots (cash only!).
lithdoc@reddit (OP)
I thought the same.
When they quote large occupancy numbers, those are the actual rentals...
What is the physical occupancy?
I bet that's in single digits, if that.
Javayen@reddit
There’s no way Harwood was at the numbers they said. That building is flat out empty. Maybe 5%.
Adddicus@reddit
>“You want to fix downtown?” Ablon says. “Go build 10 parking garages.”
Ya know, I suspect there might be another solution to this.
dee_lio@reddit
Like lack of walkability?
Rights being in the stratosphere?
No grocery stores or gas stations?
theshallowdrowned@reddit
"Rights being in the stratosphere" means what?
dee_lio@reddit
Means I got fat fingers and can't type worth a damn. RENTS are too damn high!
whiplash_7641@reddit
Awe cmon man you cant complain about being an average joe in a city designed to cater to cowboy billionaires who will door dash their food to their suites so they dont have to leave unless they wanna uber into a steakhouse or something
dee_lio@reddit
You're not entirely wrong, but it has been this way since I moved here in the 1980s. Downtown has been a ghost town after 5pm. There was an attempt to revitalize (and I only repeating that term) about 20 years or so ago. They did okay with the Perot, KWP, AA center, but those are downtown adjacent. Still no downtown grocery stores / gas stations, etc. It's strange because high rises are still there.
IamSpiders@reddit
We just need to triple down on suburban commuters
gayitaliandallas92@reddit
The issue is the homeless here in DT (no one wants to say it but it’s true) along with how needlessly difficult it is to drive from the outskirts to Dallas. Because Dallas has become so expensive to live in/buy a house (think Dallas proper or Lakewood,) most young families have opted to move to Plano/Frisco/Duncanville, etc. Hell, some are even moving to north Fort Worth. So getting in and out of the CBD is an absolute pain. There is DART but the trains don’t check people’s tickets so we get a good chunk of the homeless in the trains thus making the avg plano white collar worker nervous to get on the train (again, no one wants to say this but I think its a big factor.)
I live in DT, and honestly absolutely love it thus far. EVERYTHING is walkable. Need a couple pantry items? Ari’s is around the corner. SO MANY restaurants and the trolly can take me to uptown to see a movie or hang with friends. Dallas’ downtown needs to be a lens in which residential endeavors should be the focus as opposed to commercial. Yes, people are still going to work in DT but similar to what uptown has done - make it less SOLELY business focused and building owners should redevelop some commercial properties to mixed use
quantumthrashley@reddit
I feel bad for the homeless population but like… it’s sketchy bringing my kid to the downtown library because it’s full of homeless people and smells like piss and weed. I love that library, it’s so cool and I’d like to spend more time there but also ehhhh. And then driving out of that parking garage we’ve had people approach our car and it can be nerve wracking. Sad cause that’s one of the coolest libraries I’ve ever seen.
Natural-Policy7038@reddit
Agreed. It’s sad we’ve allowed such a wonderful library to become a daytime homeless shelter.
Riddles_@reddit
it’s sad that we take such poor care of our unhoused population that they have to resort to using libraries for shelter
hearmeout29@reddit
Agree with this. DART does have an app where you can report any issues but the homeless are really bad. They barely check tickets and I never seen anyone clean the train. It has a weird musty odor. It's helpful to ride and save gas but I prefer driving.
RoyalRenn@reddit
They could solve this the way BART solved it. Install doors that you need a ticket to get through. It keeps people from sleeping on the train and keeps people off who don't have a ticket. And if you want to subsidize tickets for poor people, you can give them vouchers rather than just saying that purchasing a ticket is optional.
SadatayAllDamnDay@reddit
LOL...Homeless people are all over Plano too. And you know where homeless people exist? Literally every major US city.
Additional-Sky-7436@reddit
Rent is too high. That is the only reason.
findingjasper@reddit
Rent is low for these buildings because the owners of the building desperately want to lease it out. It’s the Dallas government’s taxes on the actual businesses that are running companies out of Dallas.
atomicgoat@reddit
No tenant would take that space if rent was set to $0/SF. You can’t give it away.
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
Correct
paul_keys@reddit
Can confirm this is part of it. My offices long term lease downtown was up a year ago and we were quoted an insane price hike for a dying building and they would not negotiate on anything. Just expected us to swallow it happily and were not that nice about it. We'd been there 20 years. We moved to lower Greenville.
hearmeout29@reddit
With yall street coming in and the new GS building being built it might revitalize the area. I know GS is 5 days a week in office and other banks as well like JP.
Other-Grapefruit-880@reddit
are you saying the rent is too *damn* high?
ForzaFenix@reddit
I understood that reference
214forever@reddit
Downtown has some of the cheapest office space in Dallas though
dee_lio@reddit
It's all about the rent, or rent vs what you're getting.
Look at BOA tower. It's a ghost town and the owners are in denial. Even BOA is fleeing.
Aleyla@reddit
It’s still too high
findingjasper@reddit
It’s taxes. Businesses are moving out of Dallas proper bc of taxes. Not parking. Business are moving to frisco, Collin county etc, or wherever they get a tax break. If Dallas officials ca become competitive in what they are offering business, they might get business again. It’s very simple.
To feed readers the concept that PARKING is the problem, is being intentionally ignorant with an obvious problem, and treating readers like oblivious morons. Basic knowledge of the tax rate in Dallas, basic eyesight of seeing all the businesses moved to Frisco…puh-lease
Such-Professor6271@reddit
just knock them down and turn them into casinos for christ's sake.
NedtheDuck5@reddit
Because its all FUCKING EXPENSIVE YA DICKS!
xomox2012@reddit
How many grocery stores are downtown? How about barbers? Pubs/Restaurants? How about doctor offices? Places to live?
LargeDietCokeNoIce@reddit
It’s not parking. It’s access broadly. First—downtown is a pain in the butt to get to, if you live in the burbs: Plano, Flower Mound etc. long commute and awful traffic. Then yes, parking is an issue. Then there’s food: how many lunch options exist within walking distance of your office tower? I say walking distance because you’re not driving from point a to b downtown. Some say Yeah but Dart…”. No. Getting to my suburban Dart station is not terrible especially with the new lines. But what if my office tower is t right in front of a Dart station? How many blocks do I need to walk in my business clothes in 110-degree heat? No thank you! Contrast that with say the companies in the Legacy area. I drove down 121 and park in front of my office—done. At lunch I can drive around and there are tons of options. An my commute is 15-20 min. Yeah—downtown is awful and cooked
Bosfordjd@reddit
Who the fuck would want to go to downtown Dallas. No one. It's not a city that has any cachet.
stoic_spaghetti@reddit
In other cities you walk down a block and it’s storefront after storefront
In downtown Dallas you walk down a block and it’s just a bare wall
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
Been that way since late 2000s. Not enough traffic/sales to stay open.
And what few businesses were downtown? Closed at 5-6pm and only open M-F…
Worked downtown 90s-2000s. Was a pita for parking then. No grocery store, but did have 2-3 7-11s…
stoic_spaghetti@reddit
The only solution is building a ton of residential buildings, so that the traffic is mostly local foot-traffic, so that downtown doesn't have to rely on suburban visitors for businesses, but can instead rely on locals that live in the immediate area
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
Issue I have seen is that most apartments downtown are expensive. And the one that can easily afford those new apartments, rather be in Uptown/Bishop Arts with its existing experience of retail and shopping.
Now those new residential units can be built. Will take time, years-decades to see local store rebuilding in downtown. I would consider it a more 20-25 year timeline, at the very least.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
I live downtown and enjoy it. Guess that shoots holes in your theory.
IamSpiders@reddit
You would probably enjoy any other big city's downtown more.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
I’m not denying that. I travel frequently and have checked off all 50 states. But while I need to live in DFW, I enjoy Downtown Dallas.
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
The Internet probably doesn't give enough credit to the the gentrification of Lakewood, Lower Greenville, & Lake Highlands keeping rhe entire inner ring (inside 635) office market from being a wasteland.
Most of your rank and file live in Collin or even Denton county at this point.
Facts_Or_Feelings@reddit
To be fair, this is a problem in many metro areas. Same in every major metro in Texas. Corporations are moving HQ to the suburbs or further out from the city core Cheaper, larger campuses, closer to where employees live
OneMaharajah@reddit
That's the issue, we need to stop seeing these areas as places where you work and make a mad dash out of after 5 pm. Appealing to these businesses makes no sense, and it's just gonna be more hemorrhaging of tenants while Dallas wonders why no one really wants to visit downtown other than wanting to see where JFK got shot.
010Horns@reddit
While there is more to be done, they have made an effort to shift downtown away from from what it has traditionally been—commercial only. There’s a lot more residences there now than there used to be. They need to continue that work and add things like grocery stores and other living amenities to make it a walkable central area.
Delicious_Hand527@reddit
they have - but they are really moving too slowly, due to many reasons, including multiple bad city councils and lack of support for downtown becoming anything more than an employment center.
SadatayAllDamnDay@reddit
Spoiler alert...the high rises and corporate building in the northern suburbs are largely vacant too.
rohrloud@reddit
Not parking but the commute in. Executives making relocation decisions don’t want something closer to where they live which is why Frisco and Southlake have more commercial space being built.
Delicious_Hand527@reddit
Yes, exactly the commute in sucks. Not parking. The solution is not to build more parking, it's to build more homes for people closer to downtown. South Dallas in view of downtown is a ghost town, Fair Park is a ghost town -there is plenty of space to build homes for people near downtown.
Shellstr@reddit
What about the schools though? Most people who work in office building don’t like DISD, hence moving to Plano, frisco, wylie, garland, prosper, etc. you can build homes, but if you don’t fix the schools, the type of people you are trying to sell to won’t buy them. I commute so my kids can be in a good school.
Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit
Reddit: "fuck your kids"
Delicious_Hand527@reddit
They can build a few more private schools and the magnets around Dallas proper are fine.
Dallas the city has had a stagnant population as the metro has grown - there is room for schools, there is room for houses, Dallas the city just doesn't care.
TheFeedMachine@reddit
As the white collar work force moves further and further North, Downtown Dallas becomes less and less appealing for companies as there is a smaller pool of workers to recruit from. All the people moving up to Prosper, Celina, and the exurbs north of 380 are fine commuting to Plano/Frisco. Downtown is too brutal of a commute though.
dallasuptowner@reddit
Did the writer of this article bother visiting any of these buildings and a new office building in Uptown? These buildings were built for a completely different office configuration than is common today. They are unappealing because they are poorly configured for modern office spaces.
It's the same BS argument that AT&T has about why they weren't staying downtown, it wasn't downtown, it was that I have been hearing for over a decade that the building design sucked.
Inter-Being01@reddit
Downtown is a ghost town principally due to a tragically inadequate public transportation system. Texas is sooooooo addicted to oil, that it straight refuses to build any type of modern mass transit system. If people either can't or don't want to travel to the city center (inconvenient, navigating the city SUCKS, inadequate parking) food/entertainment businesses will simply not set up shop. So on and so forth. . .
Substantial-Ad-8575@reddit
There is very limited appeal to downtown Dallas. There are just a few scattered attractions, that people will go see. Only reason I would travel downtown more than 2-3 times a year I go now? If my job moved back to downtown and that’s not happening.
But look at Uptown? Lots of restaurants, AAC, and some very pricey residential units. Uptown has attractions that draw outsiders.
Temporary_Nail_6468@reddit
We had an event in a downtown Dallas hotel a few years ago and live locally but decided to make it a weekend by staying downtown for the event. Every time we walked out of our hotel we had panhandlers begging for money and people trying to sell us commemorative assassination newspapers. Cars were broken into in the third party parking garage our hotel contracted with. We were constantly looking over our shoulders because just before our stay a man had randomly knocked some woman out as she was standing on a corner. The next time the event came around, we commuted for the day and told the organizers why. Told them that they should move the event to DT FW if they wanted people to have anything to do outside the hotel.
The-William-Munny@reddit
I lived in uptown in the nineties. Dallas was a different city then. I has trended much more loosy goosy the last 15 years and it shows. Weak mayor systems don’t help.
Exciting_Drawing_553@reddit
I’m in Plano and I’ve had opportunities in Dallas. I’ve always passed, even though salaries were slightly higher. I live in Plano and my office is in Plano. I’m not giving up that commute for a little more money. I was previously working in Addison and that was too much for me
PalpitationFrosty242@reddit
They need to tax the shit out of these properties if they're going to just sit empty
RoyalRenn@reddit
Why? That makes no economic sense. Buildings needs to be leased at a certain % and certain rate, otherwise they fall afoul of lender agreements, who can eventually foreclose. You can't contractually lock a tenant into a lease that is guaranteed to lose money without lots of bad things happening (like being foreclosed upon).
Would you like to be taxed when you are unemployed but looking for a good role, rather than taking one at Pizza Hut just because you have to to avoid being taxed?
argonautserious@reddit
The answer is piss. The smell of pee is all over downtown.
DubyaKayOh@reddit
The real issue is Dallas. No decent public schools, housing is priced way too high, crime is high. Most white collar workers move to the burbs to solve for all of that, then work remote or take a job closer to home. ATT is a perfect example, they are even fleeing downtown for Plano.
cuberandgamer@reddit
I wonder if the public schools and crime issues are more based in perception than reality.... But yes, even if the perception doesn't match (or fully match) reality it will still create issues
DubyaKayOh@reddit
I worked downtown for 20 yrs and lived in Dallas for several of those. Crime is real and public schools are not good. Once my wife was pregnant we fled to the burbs.
throwawayhogsfan@reddit
Worked downtown for a number of years and if I couldn’t have taken the blue line to work everyday, I don’t think I would have liked working in downtown Dallas near as much.
cuberandgamer@reddit
I do think it wouldn't be so bad if some of the surface parking was moved underground or became garages, as long as we got more surface space to work with... However, I also worry that it won't really fix the issue.
Fitting in parking in a place like downtown is just going to be more expensive than in suburban greenfield development.
I think what will ultimately save downtown is development in Southern Dallas county. As those suburbs grow, if they see a similar boom that the Collin county suburbs are seeing (and some are) then companies will want to be located in downtown. They will want the educated employment base in both Forney, Grand Prairie, Plano, Dallas, and Red Oak for example.
If Southern Dallas county were to develop and grow more, being in a place like Plano might become disadvantagous and limit your labor pool.
I'm not expert though, I'm just spit balling.
Also Dallas proper needs to become affordable, you can't live cheaply next to downtown unless you move to south Dallas or something. They gotta build more housing
And more transit
Upstairs_Balance_464@reddit
Downtown is awash in parking. Like whole empty floors of parking in parking garages plus tons of empty spaces on surface lots. People who loudly proclaim downtown parking to be “a nightmare” will also say that about Wal-Mart on a busy Saturday.
cuberandgamer@reddit
Interestingly, it seems like the area in the arts district or just generally north of Pacific Ave/Bryan Street is actually well leased.....
Which is a shame because to me that is the less interesting part of downtown
ForzaFenix@reddit
I've worked in 4 different office towers downtown over the years. A big issue is long commutes, when remote work is possible. Affordable housing is too far out from downtown to make a commute worth it for many people. Why drive from Plano or Flower Mound every bday downtown unless you have to?
curiouswizard@reddit
Those buildings need to be renovated and re-zoned into mixed-use. Make Downtown Dallas ultra walkable.
OneMaharajah@reddit
CBD has none of the charm in a city that Reddit already loves bashing. Maybe they should start by making this place more livable and not listen to articles like this that just want to double down on more parking while the businesses flee to the outer suburbs