Is it worth to move to the US from Spain?

Posted by Anuka444@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 70 comments

Hi, It's been a long time since I've wanted to write this post but I didn't dare, so I'm writing now and please, be respectful even if you don't agree with what I say.

I'm from Eastern Europe (I don't want to specify the country) but I currently live in Spain and have a Spanish citizenship. Lately, I can't stop thinking about moving to the US. This idea itself inspires me and scares me at the same time. Eastern Europeans will understand me, that in our countries we grow up romanticizing American life. Something that many Western Europeans would not understand and I totally get it. Forgive me for generalizing and dividing countries by regions, but that's just my personal experience and it doesn't have to be 100% right.

I understand why would someone prefer to live in Europe. I truly and honestly understand. The slow life, especially in Spain, people enjoying life, less stress from work, beautiful weather, everything cheap.. yes, it has a loooot of advantages. Also one very big advantage, I would say, is the feeling of "security", which for me, mainly comes from our free healthcare. I also have a private insurance for which I pay 60 EUR a month and everything is free for me.

What attracts me to the US? The feeling that what I can achieve there in 5 years I can't do it here in 15 or more years. The feeling that you don't really get a good amount of money here for the work that you are doing. I know a person (my relative) who was quite poor in my country (not Spain), he moved to America and in just 5 years he bought a car and two apartments in my country and lives a very happy life. Also I think that the US is a beeeautiful country and I'm sure I will fall in love with it.

I also think that I don't necessarily need to stay there my whole life. But I can at least make it a part of my life journey and take the best out of it. My boyfriend, who currently lives in a cold North European grey country, wants to move to Spain😂 I understand that. But he is also open to make a bigger decision and change the continent. With his profession, I think he will be veeeery successful there.

What do u think, guys? is it worth it? The political situation might not be the best right now but it's not here either. I don't even want to talk about the economy, although it is cheap overall, the rent is really getting expensive and people can barely afford to move out with their low salaries. I don't know... i'm so confused... I really want to live my childhood American dream life, but I'm also scared to move out of this comfort zone. I also think if I were younger it would have been easier for me to make this decision, I'm in my late twenties now.

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chattie_cathy@reddit

My motto has always been, you can always go back “home”. But I’m also not risk adverse when it comes to moving as I moved around my entire life. (Dad was military.)

I think the “American dream” exists but it greatly depends on what you do for work, and where you live…and what you’re willing to sacrifice. So it really only exists for some people. If you don’t have kids, it’ll be easier.

Feel free to DM me. I may be able to provide some insight. I’ve lived in several states, and in Europe, although that was when I was a kid. I also have traveled a decent amount, but I know that’s not the same as living somewhere.

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mp85747@reddit

"My motto has always been, you can always go back “home”. "

To the contrary! There's even a book on the subject, You Can't Go Home Again, and numerous discussions in this sub and elsewhere prove just that. Not that you can't go technically, of course, even though that can happen as well, but neither "home" nor you are the same. Plenty of people become emotionally homeless for life.

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chattie_cathy@reddit

When I wrote “can always go back home” I didn’t mean it in a rude way. I just meant it as go back to where you were comfortable living before. Of course I realize some people leave their home country because they have to. OP doesn’t sound like they’re in a desperate position to leave Spain.

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mp85747@reddit

I didn't say or mean that your comment was rude... It's just that, judging by this addition as well, you seem to have no understanding of the issue. Such a move may not even be feasible, for financial or other reasons, and even more so in today's unstable and unpredictable world or the "home" in question no longer feels like home.

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Nomadinspain@reddit

depende de lo que más valores tú.

yo, valoro más la tranquilidad, la situacion politica, la cercanía y la vida de España/europa.

Si valoras más el dinero como el ejemplo de tu familiar, pues adelante.

Lista de pros y de contras para ambos paises!

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

A largo plazo valoro la tranquilidad y seguridad, pero ahora mismo quiero el dinero más que nada.

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Nomadinspain@reddit

Pues dale caña!

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Used-Alps3233@reddit

I moved from Spain to the US at 30 when I married an American and I'll 13 years later, whilst back in Spain I'll say this. I think a lot of this depends on what stage of life you’re in and what you value most at this point in time.

Before kids, I genuinely loved living in LA. My husband and I had a great social life, travelled a lot, and I enjoyed the opportunities presented to me, careerwise.

After kids, some of my priorities changed quite dramatically, especially around safety and support systems. Things I was aware of before kids suddenly became massive challenges. So much so that whilst I'm still very happily married, my husband lives in LA to continue his career and I've returned to Spain with our boys so they can go to school without me losing my mind.

Also, I’ve now lived both with and without family nearby while raising children abroad, and I massively underestimated how much difference that makes in our day-to-day life.

I don’t think either Europe or the US is universally “better.” I think they reward very different lifestyles and priorities, so you just have to figure out where suits you best in this stage of life and be open to that changing.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Thank you for mentioning this. I do plan to have children, and what you said really matters to me. If I go the US it will be temporary, approx. 5 years to improve my financial situation and come back. And if I do that, I'm not planning to have children while being there. On the other hand, if I stay in Spain I'm planning to have a baby in max 2 years.

My fiance is very successful and he will make enough money to raise a kid here, and I will work too. So there is no point of waiting longer and I really don't want to be an old mother.

That said, the idea of postponing having a child, move abroad for some years and then come back with some savings still sounds very attractive.

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mp85747@reddit

The US is not a country to be a "gastarbeiter"! Most people moving there settle at least for a long time, if not for life. That's irrelevant to you personally, though. Judging by your degree and total lack of experience, you can't move there to begin with on your own, unless you marry an American.

Based on what you said, the person who can get a visa and a job is your boyfriend. Assuming he does, you can't go with him unless you're married. I'm not familiar with these situations, but I'm not sure if the spouses can always work in those cases or at least right away. It might depend on the type of a visa and that's something to be checked.

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Used-Alps3233@reddit

So that's another can of worms, the whole "old mother" thing 😄 I was mid to late 30s when I had our sons and I will say I think there's a lot to be said for having them younger. The hormonal havoc they wreak on your system is too much on top of the hormonal disaster that is perimenopause 🙃 Of course, everyone is different and I did have both of mine within 11 months, on top of 3 miscarriages (!!) so there was a LOT going on for me with the hormones. I'm just not convinced the experience would have been the same if I'd started sooner, and I suspect I would have had more patience.

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Singularity-42@reddit

I'm from a former Eastern Bloc country, but moved to the US right after college. I've been in the tech industry for 20 years. It's been great, very good salaries, and even vacation days, and other perks were very good. Literally European benefits but American salary. Almost nowhere in the EU can you make the money you could make in the US. Now we're thinking about going back to Europe to retire early as soon as next year.

However - do you have a concrete plan? It's not easy to immigrate here. What do you do for work? I got lucky with tech at the right time, but for example now the tech job market is not very good at all.

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ready_gi@reddit

im also from Eastern Europe now living in Canada. It seems like the moment people retire, they go back "home". But to be real i hate the capitalism and the inhumanity in the North American culture, i think i'll make it back home earlier in life.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

I also don't like that non-stop work culture in North America. I don't want to live there my entire life. I just feel like I need it for some time.

There is a beautifil allegory in Spain: One day, an American businesman visited a coastal village in Spain, saw a fisherman returning with several large fish and asked how long it took. 'Few hours" the fisherman replied. Then he explained that he wakes up every morning, has a breakfast with his children and wife, then he goes fishing for few hours, comes back to make a "siesta", then he plays with his children and goes with his friends to drink beer in the evening.

"Well, if you spend more time fishing you'll get more money and buy a bigger boat" said the businessman. "For what?" The fisherman replied. - you would increase sales, your income would be so high that it would allow you to invest in a fleet of boats. Over time, your fishing company would grow and you would become very rich. Then you would be able to retire and move to a beautifull coastal village. Spend your day with your family, play with you children in the evenings, drink beer with your friends and go fishing for few hours."

So yes, at the end of the day, we all aim to have a stress-free, slow life. Where we have plenty of time for our family and less worry about work.

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ready_gi@reddit

the thing i took from the story is that you can already chill out and there is your chill life.

but we all learn our own lessons on our own time. i'd say just follow your intuition and do what you want.

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mp85747@reddit

I love this story myself. Granted, fishing for fun and fishing for a living are not necessarily the same, but who knows if all the struggles in between are really worth it... Many times, that, essentially only potential, "fishing for fun" comes with quite a few compromises of various nature and lost people and other opportunities in life. The price could be very high.

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Singularity-42@reddit

Honestly? I like it here, but we just don't have enough money to retire in the US. The Healthcare especially is just too expensive.

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Genuinely_Kind74@reddit

I guess we all wonder if the gas is greener on the other side. I'm a US citizen and I can't wait to move to Europe. I am beyond grateful for the financial opportunity but it comes at a very high price. Burnout, long hours, hustle culture, what you have is never enough, etc. This wears on your mental health and wellbeing over time. Cost of living can be very high.

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idreamofchickpea@reddit

Hi there, I keep thinking about your post. My thought for your situation is that it makes a huge difference where in the us you would go. Can you stay with your cab driver friend for a bit to see if you’d like nyc?

My other advice is to understand that it’s hard as hell to emigrate, even if you have a solid legal path. The best way for you is to obtain a work visa, which will of course be difficult and expensive. But it’s not as impossible as some of the comments make it out to be. So if it’s really your dream, why not pursue it? You’re the perfect age and life stage, imo. Just please visit first!!!!! The us has a lot going for it, but there are also massive downsides and only you can decide which is more compelling.

Btw, fluency in Spanish will be an asset to living and working here. Not enough to get you a job in its own, but it’s a skill you may not know is in demand. Best of luck to you.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Thank you very much. I was too thinking of visiting first. I'm planning to visit both NYC and California and see which one I like the most (but I know when you visit everything looks way better than when you actually live there).

My relative started everything without having a visa or anything, he then got everything. I don't think I want the same path, men are different and they can accept lot of difficult jobs while they're waiting for their documents to get ready, as a girl I'm not ready for that. I just thought that having an EU citizenship would make things easier, but seems like for the US government every foreign person without (sometimes even with) visa or green card is the same. My European mentality can't comprehend that but it is what it is.

The more I think the more difficult and complicated sounds everything... and the more demotivated I feel. On the other hand I know so many successful stories about the people from my country (who have much weaker passport than I do)

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Revolutionary_Cat938@reddit

as an american i want to leave america asap, especially with trump as president. i would dream of moving to spain. america used to be the dream but has sadly declined under this administration, women are losing their rights, you don’t want to move to the us under this administration

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Red-dragon186@reddit

I mean women haven’t lost any rights but the decline of America started in the Reagan era.

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Revolutionary_Cat938@reddit

what do you mean? women do not have autonomy over their bodies in the us? go to the south and if women needed to get abortions are unable to afford to travel they can no longer get the medical attention they need because of trump and his elected supreme court candidates

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Round_Discussion9592@reddit

Research women who have died because they were deined an abortion. Also, research the terms of the SAVE act and the implications. High ranking women and minorities have been fired from Hogsbreth's troops. The current administration is anti-woman and will get worse. I would not encourage anyone to move here

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Red-dragon186@reddit

Abortion rates in America has increase in percentage wise even with Roe v Wade disappearing. Abortion is still legal in all 50 states if it puts the life of the mother in danger.

Want to blame anyone? Blame the democrats for not pushing congress to make abortion fully legal under Obama term.

The reality is the left is going to use Abortion similar to how the right uses immigration. As a tool to get people to vote for them but never fix the problem.

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Round_Discussion9592@reddit

Unless you consider freedom of choice, and yeah, "DEI hires" where women were fired for being women, and more women are living in poverty and SNAP has been reduced but, please, continue woth your wisdom.

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Round_Discussion9592@reddit

This. The dream is dead.

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The-American-Abroad@reddit

Go for it. If you’re a Spanish citizen you can always move back - I don’t think the country will change that much in 5 or 10 years. If anything it’ll probably just get slightly worse.

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saintmsent@reddit

Do you have a real way to move? All the “worth it or not” questions mean nothing if you have no valid path, and most people in the world frankly don’t. Has nothing to do with the current administration btw, US hasn’t had a proper immigration reform in decades and coming here legally without having immediate family like a spouse is a huge uphill battle

I moved 8 months ago from the EU to the US, for me it’s worth it 100%, but it will highly depend on what type of person you are and what you do for work (aka if it pays well enough). You’re unlikely to find much support on Reddit through, there’s a bigger vibe of “America bad” that doesn’t match real life people you meet once you’re here. Happy to chat in DMs if you want to know more details

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Adventurous-Way2824@reddit

This guy works for big Tech so of course he loves it.

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thomsenite256@reddit

What does this comment add?

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ScorpioSpork@reddit

He could have phrased it better, but it's a valid point. Being well off in the US is a totally different experience than if you're making the median salary (or lower).

Very generally speaking, working for a large tech company in the US guarantees you the best insurance available at a very low price, plus a high salary with other benefits (like stock options, which is pretty valuable for those companies).

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saintmsent@reddit

You don’t need to work for a big tech company to make decently above median though. I specifically said everything depends on you and what you do for work, not that US is blankety better for everyone

Every country sucks quite a bit if you earn just at or below average, tbh, even those in the EU

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ScorpioSpork@reddit

That's true, and I do agree with you!

Still, I make more than the median income in my area, but I struggle recommending someone go through all the challenges of immigration for the average American life.

For instance, I only get 15 vacation days and 10 sick days, my medical insurance is expensive, I hate being so car-reliant, I'm burnt out by this work culture, and I have to put the bulk of my leftover cash into savings if I want to retire by 70. I would easily cut my income in half or less to alleviate those issues, but I also know there are folks who would trade places with me.

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saintmsent@reddit

The thing is, though, a lot of those things aren't as good in the EU as people make them out to be on Reddit. Don't blame them though. It's hard to know about a place without living there or having close friends who live there

Public transport - great, depends on the country though. Austria, Germany, Czech Republic - incredible. Italy, Spain - nah, I'd rather take a car, it's just too unreliable to get places

Healthcare - again, it depends on the country. We used to live in the Czech Republic, our monthly payments were cheap, but the care quality for regular issues (aka you're not dying) was really bad, they wanted you out of there ASAP. In Germany, my friend pays 400 Euros per month for public health insurance; it's not funded by high-income taxes, it's a separate line item that takes a lot of your income. Wait times are also very bad

Retirement? Public pensions guarantee a decent life for current retired folks, but only if they have a paid-off home. For Gen Z and millennials, a lot of whom can't hope to buy a home with the current economic conditions, it just won't work, so people of my generation still have to think hard about saving for retirement themselves. And that's even before population decline comes into play

I agree that for an average person EU offers a better life, but it's not all sunshine and roses

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saintmsent@reddit

That’s why I said it matters what you do for work. There are tons of IT workers in Europe and other professionals who can make absolute bank in the US compared to back home. But you have to be prepared to work more overall

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tnvoipguy@reddit

The American Dream is not what it once was…life here is getting harder. Inflation is outta control. If you have EU citizenship…stay there. 85% of the US citizens are one medical unexpected event away from financial disaster. Now if you are younger than 30 and have an Entrepreneurial spirit and the $$ to start a business and support, then come this way BUT keep your EU citizenship no matter what!!
Examples: Average 1bedroom apt is 1400 per mth. 3bed 2 bath house 398k, mobile phone 120 per mth, cable 85 to 100 mth, car insurance 150per mth, water 75per mth, electrical 135 to 250 per mth. Medical copay 3500 per year and then you ‘ll still pay 10-20% of the over inflated bill.

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sailoorscout1986@reddit

wtf are you paying 120 for a mobile phone? The problem is you

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Spirit - yes $$- No 😁😁 the fact that I don't have it is what makes me want to move there😂

Okay in Spain you get 1600-2000 monthly salary and then the rent is 1100- 1200, how about that?

Is the grocery cheap? Yes. Is eating out cheap? Yes. I pay 10 EUR for unlimited mobile internet. And I don't pay at hospitals or doctors. But where tf should I live? In the hospital? 😂 you don't have a partner it's just IMPOSSIBLE to move out from your parents. My parents have an old rent contract and they have it for cheap though.

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saintmsent@reddit

These numbers are so useless to anyone considering moving to the US, to be honest

You can’t do average rent or house prices in the US, it’s not a useful metric because the country so big and cost varies so much, same with utilities, average tells you almost nothing

Mobile phone 120 a month? Maybe if you have an entire phone financing baked into it or some BS streaming bundled in, just cell service is often cheaper than EU countries, I pay 25 bucks for an unlimited plan in the US

Insurance will highly depend on your employer, my out of pocket maximum is 3k, deductible is 400. It’s great insurance and most people don’t have it this good, but the point is, throwing any number around is useless, situations differ way too much

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werchoosingusername@reddit

You mentioned your romantic view about the US, in detail. Which is your motivation. You also mentioned that in the US you have better chances to do the same what your relative did.

You failed to mention what you will be doing in the US.

My respectful view to what you have mentioned, you will not be able follow in the steps as your relative. It takes a different type of personality to achieve what he/ she achieved in 5 years. Nowadays to realize the 'American dream' is very difficult. Especially in such a short time. You will never know what that person did to get to realize his/ her goals. The American dream is extremely rare these days. It is not the 50s or 60s. It is what the 1% let's you believe.

Comparison is the thief of joy. Don't fall for this trap.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Thank you for your comment. Well, he is a taxi driver in NYC😁 And i recently finished my 6 year bachelor + master studies, haven't worked with my profession yet.

So i'm like.. if he could.. I could too😁 okay jokes aside, I know it's not that easy and just because I have degrees doesn't mean I'll have a successful carrier. So, you have a point and i get that.

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werchoosingusername@reddit

You are welcome! 6 year bachelor? Medicine? Architecture? On top of that no working experience. You will not get visa to begin with.

I really don't want to be the person who bursts your bubble, but your character is not suited for today's US. You are better off in the EU. You have no idea how BRUTAL it is to drive a taxi in NY for new immigrant. He paid his price. You are comparing yourself to a lion. You are a gazelle :)

Be smart use your energy to figure out how to achieve your goals in the EU.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

I didn't do 6 year bachelor. I did 4 year bachelor and 2 year master in Social Sciences. I know I should not compare myself to my relative. If I stay in Europe I'll never be able to buy an apartment here. Also I'm not sure about myself that much but I know my bf has a big chance to be very successful there with his profession (which has nothing to do with mine). Because he is already successful and has an impeccable CV. It's just that you don't get paid enough here... I don't know.. I really have to think about it more and consider all the pros and cons.

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werchoosingusername@reddit

OK, got it. Well good luck.

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saintmsent@reddit

How did he end up in the US? Family member, green card lottery, asylum, is he there illegally? I would bet on “if he did, I can too” logic

You can’t just arrive and do whatever you want, there are strict limitations on who can stay long term

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AlikaTT2020@reddit

My thought is if you want to do it and can then by all means do it. Life’s short so do what makes you happy. I am from the US and have been lucky enough to live and work in several countries in Europe and Asia. Each time I went to a new country I was excited for the change and experiences and I would travel so much. After about 2 years I would find myself becoming comfortable and bored after the newness wore off so I would want to move somewhere else. Sometimes back to the US or other foreign country. I never felt like one location was my forever place but found I just loved the experience of a new place to explore. The good thing is we have options in life so go do it and if you want to change it up later then do that too. Good luck and have fun exploring!

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saintmsent@reddit

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Sufficient-Job7098@reddit

I am Eastern European. I have been living in US for 25 years or so.

US is OK. I love it here.

But I would also be OK with Canada, UK, Italy, Spain, Netherlands. And I say this because I have childhood friends who moved at about the same time I did.

We stayed in touch, as all those countries had been experiencing ups and downs. Yet on average we all are quite satisfied with our immigration and with countries we ended up in ( not necessarily because we picked the best countries but simply each of us took various random opportunities)

Today one of us believes that moving between our hosts countries has high probability of meaningfully improving our lives. My friend doesn’t recommend for me to move to Spain, and I say that there is little point for them to move to US.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Your comment made me emotional🥹 Especially because of your words that you and your childhood friends "took various random opportunities to move abroad". The fact that we don't even consider our own countries at all... the fact that being "outside" is already better... Your words made me feel very close to you.

I wish you best of luck in life! ❤️

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Sufficient-Job7098@reddit

Thanks.

I am staying because I am married to local. I have my in laws here and other extended family, my kids are locally born, I’ve learned language, got friends, earned retirement.

I have a house with a garden I love. I don’t want to move away from my children and future grandchildren. This is my home now, it’s been my home for a while now.

Good luck to you too.

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Much_Dragonfly49@reddit

This I love your comment I have lived in the U.S my whole life in the future, I would love to live abroad for a year to see how I would like it and, to learn more about the culture and country. I also love traveling and think experiencing living in another country would be a good experience. I have been noticing for the past few months that a lot of people who are living abroad on social media and Reddit, tend to make it negative and constantly bashed where they are from and make their new country they are living in a Utopia perfect country. All countries have its pros and cons no country is perfect, but I notice that some of them constantly compare to where they are from and where they live now and make it negative in every post they make it’s constantly talking bad about where they are from and making their new country they live in perfect. Honestly unpopular opinion but to me if you live in that mindset it’s seem like you are not embracing the new country you live in and you were trying to escape and think all your problems will be fixed by living abroad. I’m not saying people aren’t allowed to like certain things better in other countries they are but don’t be negative 24/7. I don’t like Trump and don’t agree with what he is doing if I do move abroad in the future he wouldn’t be my main reason for why I want to learn more about the culture and country to experience it.

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Carolina_Hurricane@reddit

If you hope to get ahead in US be prepared to live in run down housing or with a lot of roommates because the US system will tax the hell out of you for housing.

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zholly4142@reddit

Your first and biggest challenge is what kind of visa do you qualify for.

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thomsenite256@reddit

You need a plan. What job opportunities are there? What skills do you have? I dont think its just as easy as moving here. You need a pathway to a visa first of all before you can even think about what and where.

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Adventurous-Way2824@reddit

Absolutely not. Do NOT come here. You will regret it.

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apathyisfortheweak@reddit

it sounds like you have a dream and should chase that, have you ever read The Alchemist? some people accept their conditions and live with contentment, some chase their happiness. you decide who you get to be.

i grew up in the U.S and want to leave, but have no dream to chase elsewhere. my dream is to live in NYC and be so well off that i can afford to live my winters in florida or SoCal. it just doesn’t feel like a dream worth chasing anymore, i wish i had abandoned ship sooner.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

I hope you fulfill your dreams😊

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jvesquire91@reddit

Your relative with the cars and apartments is probably up to the neck in debt. Getting into debt is very easy in the US. Big dreams are achievable because big debt is also easily available. Be prepared to work your entire life to pay down that debt and when you die be prepared to pass that down to your children.

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VieneEliNvierno@reddit

I think you misunderstood. He didn’t buy those apartments or cars in the USA. He just did it with the money he made there.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

He is not in debt. It's just cheap to buy apartments in my home country when you come back with US dollars😁

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saintmsent@reddit

It’s not like anyone in the EU is buying real estate without debt, housing affordability is not just an American issue. You need a 30 year loan to afford any sort of apartment in a city that has decent jobs, true across the union

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Opposite-Ad8208@reddit

How much free time do you have? ICE is on a rampage right now

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slapbumpnroll@reddit

Whatever you feel about the idea the biggest question is how will you move? Do you have a work visa? Like legally how would you plan to do it? If you don’t have that worked out, it’s not really feasible. Can’t just show up.

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Illustrious-Cup2174@reddit

I’m second generation American on one side and a first generation American on the other. I think many countries paint the U.S. like a place where anything is possible and in some ways it is, that’s why my family came here. However, over the last 20-30 years things have changed a lot.

Some of the problems you say you have in Spain young people here have as well, young people can’t move out and start families. People with full time jobs can’t afford rent alone, groceries are through the roof. Your relative was able to buy a home in Eastern Europe in 5 years, but certainly he would not be able to here hnless it was a shack. If your goal is to make money save it and move back to Spain with 30-40k then that makes sense and is maybe doable in 5 years with an excellent salary and living frugally …if you want to establish yourself here in the that’s a lot more difficult.

It also depends on what visa you would get and what industry you’re in whether it’s worth it. If you’re coming to make 100k a year and live in nyc (not worth it), if you’re coming to make 100k in a low cost place maybe you can save.

As for politics, it’s rotten here. I know Spain has vox and its problems but this is the worst i have ever seen it. Makes me want to go live in Spain

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

Hi, it was very nice to read your comment and thank you! You understood me right, I want to make some money and go back. Even though I'm romanticizing your country, I'm trying to be as realistic as possible. With an almost non-existent maternity leave there, with a government not taking care of its citizens when they suddenly become unemployed, with a very expensive healthcare... I know i will get annoyed in a long future. That said, I've already lived in 4 countries, why not making the US a fifth one for some period of time?

Will I always have the possibility to come back if it doesn't work for me? Yes. Will I always think "what if I had tried.." if I stay here? Also yes.

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romance_and_puzzles@reddit

My question to all these posts: why do you think you need reddit’s approval? Live your life.

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Anuka444@reddit (OP)

I don't think anyone will make a life-changing decision according to reddit comments. Of course in the end it's me and only me who will decide about my future. It's just always a good idea to hear from people that already live there. I mean I like to hear different opinions and I don't see a reason to not.

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Short_Explanation_97@reddit

do what you want, but why tf would you want to move to the us? IT SUCKS.

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Watchhistory@reddit

Totally a fool to move here. You can't afford it, just for starters, with the cost of a visa to get here. You have no idea. Study what is going on in this country, please.