Worth to upgrade from a 5800X3D to a 7800X3D?

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zer0_234@reddit

It really isn’t that easy. You’d need a new mobo and ram too

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petersaints@reddit

You would have to upgrade your motherboard and memory. So, probably not.

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iceseayoupee@reddit

Not worth it, new board and memory will kill your desire to upgrade. If you're gaming, stick to the 5800x3d

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So I have both a 5800X3D system with a 7900XTX and a 9800X3D system with a 7900XTX in my house. I game on both. The Desktop has the 5800 and my TV gaming PC has the 9800. Unless I turn on an FPS counter, I can't tell a difference between the two. Even if I do, the difference isn't much in most games as most of them are GPU limited. Combine that with the fact you would have to get a new motherboard and DDR5 ram and I'd say it isn't worth it. That 9800 was a completely new build for me anyway that is the only reason I went with AM5.

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dc_IV@reddit

Thanks for this confirmation, but I won't tell my spouse! I could have "afforded" an AM5, but was veto'd by the spouse as they pointed out that I had bought an Alienware m18 R1 w/ 13900HX & 4080 2 years before, that luckily is still working. Spouse was sort of correct as it was also around $2800 after buying 64GB DDR5, and 2 WD Black SN850X 4TB SSDs. I kept the 32GB DDR5-4800 and 1TB OEM NVMe for the 4 yr warranty good through early 2028 instead of flipping those parts. I instead did a FB Marketplace build and after flipping some FBM parts that were underpriced to help subsidize the build, I am at about $1600 for a used 5900X, new Corsair 4000D RS ARGB with 6 120mm ARGB fans, used 64GB G.Skill DDR4-4000 @ 3600MHz 1:1:1, 7900 XTX, Corsair HX1200, 2 x 1TB 2.5" HP OEM, 2TB KIOXIA OEM Dell NVMe, and I reused a WD SN850X and my Noctua NH-DS15S. Both are fun to still game on.

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Suvtropics@reddit

Bruh your spouse is right. You have 4080 there's no need to upgrade unless you wanna burn cash for fun

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Diedead666@reddit

Im a marvel rivals player with 4090 going to 9800x3d helped alot. 4k screen but heavy DLSS. It greatly helped in that game. But I knew it would help as I have the numbers up and see the GPU use was falling to the 80s with 5800x3d (maxed out settings dlss ultra performance). So some games it helps. I got ram and board when priceses where just going up. But now it's very very expensive to go am5.

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According_Spare7788@reddit

So i tried using my 5800x3d when i first got my RTX 5080...late October i think, when they were priced under MSRP. Had a lot of high hopes for system balance, since the 5800x3d is so good and all. Went for about a month before i decided to switch platforms to AM5 and 9800x3d, kinda rushed to jump on the upgrade wagon before memory costs bloated beyond recognition (was already x2 the price then, now it's closer to x4). I try to to target high fps, even with AAA games with upscaling (Mainly DLSS Q or B at 1440p ultrawide) and the reason i made the jump, was because i was noticing a lot of the times, with games i was playing the GPU was being CPU limited, more than i thought i was comfortable with, though i usually do have a framerate counter / frame-time meter open. Certain games are definitely more cpu bound than others, but with this paring (5800x3d/5080) at was even more CPU limited than my previous setup (5900x/3080).

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kemicalkontact@reddit

I think for games that you're rendering in 1080p the 9800x3d will be noticeably better. So like DLSS Performance at 4k renders at 1080p then upscales to 4k.

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According_Spare7788@reddit

Exactly. Same goes for 1440p Quality or Balanced, which are 960p and 835p. U kinda need faster CPUs for that performance overhead when trying to boost to high fps with these higher tier cards. At native or DLAA the slower CPUs are fine, but once u try aggressive upscaling, things can start to fall apart a bit. Of course, you could always turn off the frame counter. But even there, i personally noticed the fluctuating frame pacing with the slower chip, so there is always a difference.

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kemicalkontact@reddit

What are you talking about. If you switch to 7800x3d the only thing that you can bring along is your GPU and storage basically.

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BigSmackisBack@reddit

Only if you play at 1080p or if you play at 1440p and you can get a good price for the 5800x3d+ram+mobo which offsets the upgrade cost significantly. For 4k there is almost no good performance difference outside of a handful of particularly cpu heavy games. Theres going to be another run of 5800x3d from AMD soon, so if the reselling of yours is going to factor into your upgrade you either want to do it immediately or prepare to take a hit on the resale value depending how the re-release goes (and its impact on used market)

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PermissionJaded5510@reddit

If money was the only thing you have to worry about, then it is a very easy choice because you just pull out the cpu and put the new one..... .......But you have to replace motherboard, ram and maybe even re-install windows? not sure. so much hassle. The only reason some (or most people) should step away from 5800X3D is when AM6 arrives

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Spirited-Eggplant-62@reddit

It depend if you have a CPU bottleneck, differently is a waste of money.

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sylpharionne@reddit

DDR5 price is crazy now, dude

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Slottr@reddit

No Not to mention you'd need an entirely new board and memory

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Additional_Past_7107@reddit

Spend the money on a monitor instead.

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jhaluska@reddit

Just get a new case and put water cooling on it. I wouldn't upgrade the CPU/mobo/ram yet.

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Big-Salamander-2158@reddit

Not with the current ram prices. You’d be paying close to 700 I think to just gain better performance at esports, the difference should not be that big at 1440p or even close to nothing at 4k. My 5800x3D is staying where it is until am6 at this rate.

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GreenWorld8549@reddit

What are u talking about he has a 5080 that will be a good fps boost with a x3D

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GreenWorld8549@reddit

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007414/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650e-max-gaming-wifi-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle You would need to grab this. 680$ for the 9800x3d which imo is worth the 80$. You can get a bundle from newegg too but they r more expensive. If u catch a sale like tehy did last weeknu can save up to 200$ on combos and they ship. Don’t listen to the people telling u to wait for ram prices to fall down. That is not gonna happen till at least next year and the price drop would likely be around 20-30$. It is never gonna go back to pre ai prices. Because ai is here to stay forever. This is the new norm. R u really gonnawait some years for a price drop that wontbe too crazy? And it might not even drop at all it will go higher lol. Just buy and enjoy gaming.

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greggm2000@reddit

No. Get the 11800X3D in a year, now *that* should be a big upgrade, and maybe even worth the expense to you of going AM5. And with some (or a lot) of luck, maybe RAM prices will have come down by then.

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TokageLife@reddit

Jump to a 9800x3d if you're paying DDR5 tax today.

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Brilliant-Ice-4575@reddit

Absolutely not.

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XtremeCSGO@reddit

Upgrade your monitor resolution instead. In this economy having to spend that much on ram for an upgrade is rough

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alextpale@reddit

If you've got the money I'd get a 9850x3d. You'll also need a new mobo and ram, probably not worth it until the next gen am5 or am6

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Tom_A_Haverford@reddit

I’m gonna hold onto my 5800x3d till am6 drops

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StoneyyCody@reddit

Don’t listen to these fools just plop that bad boy into your AM4 board, it’ll be a great upgrade. /s

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hamfinity@reddit

Pad on pad goodness

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Smarmy82@reddit

You need to do some serious research if you think you can swap a 5800X3D for a 7800X3D in the same core system...

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KalHasWaffles@reddit

that’s why they’re asking for help in a help forum

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Smarmy82@reddit

I did give advice......reddit can't help with real research

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KalHasWaffles@reddit

telling them they’re wrong and then not elaborating isn’t advice

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Smarmy82@reddit

Incorrect, I told them they need to research...

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Ok-Conference4199@reddit

What is the purpose of using an ellipsis when a period would suffice?

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Smarmy82@reddit

What is the point of commenting on the format of my response? You could have helped OP.

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Ok-Conference4199@reddit

My purpose is to increase the readability and decrease annoyance. I did help. Thanks. I hope I have helped you too

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peateargriffon@reddit

It's the implication that there's a further knowledge gap than what can be ascertained by simply answering the question. I get it, sometimes the worst is not knowing what you don't know.

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TheFunkadelicOne@reddit

My 5800x3d brother, ride the wave until am6 with the rest of us. The water is fine

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ConyNT@reddit

Yes. You'll see a good performance increase but I'd just get a 9800x3d if you're buying now. https://youtu.be/Zi7LtyQVPdM?si=tDnFnotsEbtLOkXn

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DumptruckIRL@reddit

If you already have the ram or can get the ram at the pre-corpo greed prices, yes. I wouldn't pay the current greed inflated prices though.

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rochford77@reddit

If you have a 5800x3d and want to upgrade, you are probably waiting for AM6 or wasting money

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SushiBump@reddit

For the price of a platform jump, hell no the 7800x3d is not worth it from where you're currently at. You'd be better off taking that money, selling your GPU, then getting a 5080 or 5090.

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No_Cardiologist735@reddit

Could be worth it. The 5800x3d currently fetches absurd prices of $400+. You might be able to make the upgrade for only $200 after selling your AM4 stuff.

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Zatchillac@reddit

Are people actually paying that much for a 4 year old CPU or is that what they're trying to charge? AMD is supposed to be re-releasing it this year so anyone spending $400 right now on a used one is a damn fool

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No_Cardiologist735@reddit

People are really paying that much. I looked on sold items on ebay. Someone claimed that a few days ago and I didn't believe it until I saw it. Hence, OP might be able to upgrade to AM5 for not that much additional costs.

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RedLimes@reddit

HOLD

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John_Mat8882@reddit

I have both CPUs. 7800x3D with a 9070XT and the other with a 7900xt. Both run at 1440p. I can tell the difference if I look at the FPS numbers. Both CPUs are mostly chilling there doing nothing, CPU loads are both with a huge headroom (harly ever go past 60%) and with mild gaming temperatures.. I play BF6, KCD2, SM2, AC:Rally. As others told you, you need DDR5 and an AM5 motherboard. With a 5800x3D, tbh you should hold off for AM6. You'd simply move from a 8 core cpu to another 8 core cpu. The real upgrade could be the upcoming 10800x3D that will have 12 cores on a single CCD always on AM6. But that will be the last hiatus for the socket and thus you'd buy into a "dead" platform, so wait for AM6.. imho ofc.

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greatthebob38@reddit

You would need a new board and ram. Are you buying that $600 bundle from microcenter?

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Sithishe@reddit

I dont think so. Maybe there are some specific programs that I am not aware of, that would benefit from switching, but if we are talking gaming, then no.

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Accomplished_Emu_658@reddit

It in todays prices. You need cpu, new ram and new mother board

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itchygentleman@reddit

not unless youre chasing 1% lows on +240hz

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FatalGamer1@reddit

If you have the money then yeah it’s definitely worth it but don’t forget that you’ll need the 7800X3D and an AM5 motherboard and DDR5 RAM. I don’t know wha games you play but currently with your 5800X3D and 5080 you’re getting over 20% CPU bottleneck in 1440p and almost 40% CPU bottleneck in 1080p. If you play in 4K it’s fine.

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bretticus733@reddit

If the cost of having to get a new AM5 motherboard and DDR5 ram isn't an issue, I'd say it is purely because you'd be futureproofing your rig a bit more. Otherwise, no, it's not worth the upgrade.

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dimetyltryptaminn@reddit

Id wait for ram prices to drop. No need to rush and pay 200% more than msrp, 5800X3D is still great

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useless_panda09@reddit

add the cost of a new motherboard and RAM since you’ll be switching socket types too.

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