A paddle-borders POV: When your morning paddle turns into a meeting with a king of the ocean
Posted by MrUpVoteDownvote@reddit | whales | View on Reddit | 187 comments
CecilBDeMilles@reddit
Fucking........terrifying...
eford1216@reddit
I'd boop that nose. Try and stop me.
Puzzlehead88@reddit
The lack of common sense is astounding
TesseractToo@reddit
Yeah I know you're not supposed to. I got very close to a humpback and regressed to a childlike state I was so enthralled and if I had about 10 more cm close I would have touched him
OkFly5919@reddit
Orcas: Stop right there! You got any seals on board?
Lunar_Stars11@reddit
I watched the video without sound and was like ‘why’s this guy not scared? Even a little?’ Then I turned on audio and heard he was Aussie and understood lol, amazing experience!! I’d love to see whales
NotMeButYou_91@reddit
I believe he is from New Zealand
KmiVC@reddit
not to hijack this thread, but i'm really curious: obviously Australians and New Zealanders are not the same, but do either get offended at all by being referred to as one people with the other ? if anyone can enlighten me on this, i'd appreciate it (and sorry if this is too off-topic for the post/sub)
ascrapedMarchsky@reddit
In Aus, no, you would not cause offence. Can’t speak for NZ, but I doubt you could do more than mildly irritate someone there. Kiwis can live and work in Aus indefinitely without a visa, as can Aussies in NZ.
NotMeButYou_91@reddit
My mates in NZ would be annoyed if you called them Australian, so i presume most would but I can't speak for them as I am not an Aussie or a Kiwi.
Lunar_Stars11@reddit
Ah my bad lol I wasn’t sure
Brilliant_Effort_Guy@reddit
that was my first thought too 😂 heard the accent and thought ‘Oh ok. This guys like ‘you’re not a crocodile or a poison snake! let’s pahty!’’
PalatialCheddar@reddit
Yeah, heck, they have spiders bigger than that in Australia!!
Firm_Video_2932@reddit
Absolutely gorgeous animals all the way around... but I ain't gonna lie, I'd probably be scared asf even though I know we're not on the menu.
ginger2020@reddit
Orcas are highly intelligent, social creatures that often form matrilineal groups, with the oldest female being the head of a pod. Despite being the ultimate apex predator of the ocean, there are no known instances of humans being killed or severely injured by these creatures in the wild. There are instances of humans being attacked by captive orcas, but this is likely because they do not fare well in captivity.
Boysenberry_17@reddit
Which is why Sea World needs to go. For those curious, Blackfish is an amazing documentary on the mental tax on what being captive as a globe-ranging animal does over the course of months to years. Even those born in captivity don’t fare well, just tells us all we need to know
Valuable_K@reddit
Blackfish is one of the best documentaries ever made about any subject.
zhenyuanlong@reddit
Blackfish is founded on MOUNTAINS of inaccuracies and unreliable information. Many of the people interviewed as "experts" are not marine mammal scientists or even animal behaviorists, and many of the people interviewed that WERE trainers at SeaWorld were trainers for very short periods of time or were not employed at SeaWorld during the time periods they're interviewed for. Documentaries do not have to be accurate, unbiased, or even factual at all and Blackfish is a front runner in great examples of extremely misleading documentaries.
Captive cetacean welfare is an extremely new and extremely complicated field that lacks a lot of quantitative research and is marred by a horrible and unethical past of cruelty to animals, but that does not mean captive cetaceans do poorly in captivity or that modern animal welfare science has not made leaps and bounds in their quality of life. And these animals, especially the ones born in captivity, have nowhere to go, so we may as well serve them and give them the best quality of life we can.
KizmitLamora@reddit
So you're saying captive bred orcas should be kept in SeaWorld's pathetic enclosures?
heyitsfranklin6322@reddit
What confuses me is that sea world has the top rating by a company that rates animal places based on their care. From what I understand, it is a reputable company.
Cold_Elk947@reddit
Every time I go to San Diego, people ask if I went to Sea World. I told them straight up, “I don’t support Sea World.”
Mysterious_Camel_717@reddit
Lolita is another worthwhile one. Tells the story of the worlds loneliest whale, in a tank without another animal of the same species for what was it, decades?
Icy_Sea_4440@reddit
Resident Orca is great too
550Senta@reddit
Thank you for the suggestion!
Harleye@reddit
Yes, Heartbreaking what happened to her....she used to live in the Miami Seaquarium, where she had been brought after being captured when she was a young orca in 1969 ..For a little over 10 years she lived with a male orca named Hugo, in the smallest orca tank in North America. Hugo's story was just as sad as Lolita's...he used to ram his head into the sides of his bowl and he died of a brain aneurysm in 1980 at the age of 15. After Hugo died, Lolita lived with various dolphins and I believe a pilot whale, but never got to see another member of her species. Toward the end of her life, there had been plans to move her to a pen in the saltish sea, but she died in 2023 before those plans could be put into motion.
Mysterious_Camel_717@reddit
Thanks for adding more context, I was fuzzy on the details. Very sad story. 15 is a very young g age for an orca to die, and tell me how Hugo’s death wasn’t basically suicide, or at the very least induced by severe mental trauma. Poor things. The more you know about whale sentience the more it makes me sick what we did to them in the 60-80ies
whyshouldimakethis@reddit
There have been 4 deaths due to orcas in captivity
3 were by the same one, tilikum, and the 4th was an accident during a stunt
Every single intentional death by orca, was by the same orca
Traditional-Ad-6079@reddit
That’s cause we aren’t worth their while. mainly skin in bones lol They want that blubber and fatty livers 💁🏼♀️
BeneficialTrash6@reddit
There are no known attacks because orcas are great at hiding the bodies.
Plutowasmyplanet@reddit
At one point in history, there were no known shark attacks.
Witty_Wolf8633@reddit
No_Pause_4375@reddit
While I know this is true, it would not prevent me from shitting myself. Especially the way they stuck around for a min.
brillantperfekt@reddit
Falsch. Erst dieses Jahr haben Orcas 5 Menschen auf Surfbrettern erlegt.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Haben dir deine Eltern nie gesagt, dass es nicht nett ist, zu lügen?
brillantperfekt@reddit
Schlafschaf.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Nein, das bist du. Wenn du beweisen willst, dass du nicht lügst, dann gib eine Quelle für deine Behauptungen an.
brillantperfekt@reddit
Quelle sind die toten Menschen.
550Senta@reddit
Tote können keine Quellen sein, da sie nicht sprechen können, du Dummchen.
brillantperfekt@reddit
Schon mal was von einem Obduktionsbericht gehört? Aber Denken ist nicht so deine Stärke, oder?
cliffjumperprime29@reddit
That person is correct. If there is an autopsy report, it would be the coroner who is the source, not the person who was killed.
Anyways, throughout this entire conversation you still have not linked to or shown any sources. If there are autopsy reports as you claim, then linked to them, or you are clearly bullshitting.
brillantperfekt@reddit
Die Surfer hießen Mark, Mitch, Ben, Jan und Jade.
YNS_1993@reddit
So you haven't heard of the orca attacks on boats?
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Only a subset of around 15 members in the critically endangered Iberian orca population, labeled as "Gladis" orcas, are known to target sailing boat rudders.
Various orca scientists have also stated that the general behaviours of the orcas when they interact with the rudders are not indicative of aggression. Orcas are of course very heavy and powerful animals, so even relatively minor movements can still have a lot of impact on the rudders, which could subsequently result in rather violent movements of the vessel
According to biologist Dr. Volker Deecke:
And according to biologist Dr. Alfredo López Fernandez from the Atlantic Orca Working Group:
And according to biologists Dr. Naomi Rose and Dr. Alex Zerbini:
Here is a compilation of some underwater footage of these "Gladis" Iberian orcas hitting rudders, and there is little apparent aggression seen in their behaviours in these clips. This video was presented to orca experts from different parts of the world at the “V International Symposium on Orca” in Tarifa, Spain, this year in February.
The behaviours seen in the clips are more indicative of exploratory behaviours, where the orcas appear to be testing various surfaces and components of the boats by often slowly approaching and pushing on these surfaces with their heads, perhaps to see how such objects may react to their force. There are even clips with orcas swimming very close to a spinning propeller, which is seems quite gnarly.
The "fad/play behaviour" hypothesis for this behaviour ultimately still remains the most popular amongst orca scientists. The explanation essentially is that the orcas are playing with the boat rudders, or even have turned it into a game of sorts. This novel behaviour has spread amongst the Iberian orca subpopulation like a fad/trend. The behaviours of the Iberian orcas during these incidents were compared to play and fad behaviours seen in other orca populations. This hypothesis was brought up in a working session with multiple scientists, and there is a report on it.
The mostly juvenile orcas that interact with sailing boats have an apparent preference for interacting with and breaking sailing boat rudders (often spade). This may be because these particular types of rudders are easier to break, and there is often more of a reaction from the vessel and the people on it during the interaction. This type of reaction can be reinforcing for these types of behaviours in orcas, as they can see the direct results of their actions more clearly.
ceta_girl@reddit
This is well-known, and I celebrate it, because I believe it's essentially them telling us to get the fuck out of their water, which is a sentiment the marine biologist Eric Shaw holds as well. More than 600 vessel (vessels are not people) attacks have been recorded since 2020; the orcas target the rudders, and the captains are instructed that if their vessels come under attack, the best thing to do is to shut their ships down and to call for assistance.
Something I didn't know until tonight - any orca identified as a ship attacker, is given the designation, "Gladis," which ties to their old name, "Orcinus Gladis," which means whale fighter.
Vohikori@reddit
If I remember right it was mainly done by younger momber of the pod and attacks were only on boats, no human was harmed? And most probable reason why is them doing it fir shits and giggles just like the time they killed fish and wore them as hats?
Idk i might remember it wrong its 5 in the morning for me
AnonMouse985@reddit
Yeah, I forgot which pod it was, but there is a pod (or is it species?) that is famous for attacking boats.
There are no known orcas attack in the wild, there are also less orcas interaction in the wild. I'm not taking my chances and think orcas are not interested in me and jump in the water.
FaPaDa@reddit
Not only are there no know attacks by Orcas in the wild, there have been quite a few cases where Orcas protected overboard humans from other Sea Predators and even provided themselves as swim support.
allkinds0ftime@reddit
Knowing all of this, and being an experienced paddle boarder and having been close to a lot of whales, I have to say it would be hard for me not to drop into the water in this situation. I’m not saying I have big enough brass ones to do it, but the idea is tempting. Definitely would want to have swim goggles on though to see what happened next.
They feel like the Bernese Mtn Dogs of the ocean to me. #jealous
Curious_Morris@reddit
I would definitely give them head scratches while standing on the board though. They are like dogs or cats. They just are curious and want some attention.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
It may be tempting, but just as one would probably not like being touched or petted by a stranger, orcas and other dolphins also often do not appreciate being touched by individuals they are unfamiliar with.
While various orcas and other cetaceans may be curious about or friendly towards humans, people should still not touch them for this reason, and this could also possibly condition the animals to seek potentially dangerous interactions with humans.
Firm_Video_2932@reddit
Yes, there's a lady marine biologist that free swims with them. Or has free swam, as she's probably retired by now. What a fukn thrill that would be. Swimming with these massive intelligent mammals that could, if they were so inclined, kill you rather easily. But that's not their deal, killing us. It's like they are just as curious about us as we are of them. Like "what are you and why are you here?" 😅
Complete-Leg-4347@reddit
Dr. Ingrid Visser. Seen her on a couple of programs, and free swimming is her whole research strategy.
Firm_Video_2932@reddit
Yes, that's the one. A kiwi iirc? Apparently she's a legend in this area of marine research.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Yes, the orcas in the video are the same ones that she studies and conserves.
Curious_Morris@reddit
Thankfully we don’t taste like fish
Firm_Video_2932@reddit
Did know a girl once that... forget it. Another story for another day...😬
_psylosin_@reddit
Those attacks were by orca that were tortured for years
Viperbunny@reddit
I am the person who absolutely knows better, knows that I shouldn't, but I would put my hand out to it to see if it wanted to be booped. That's a great way to loose a hand.
ManonFire034@reddit
Yeah this creeped me out and I normally don’t keep scared by animals. I’d be pretty uncomfortable if that was me
MrUpVoteDownvote@reddit (OP)
Oh I’d definitely be scared asf that’s for sure! 😳
LawfulnessNice7457@reddit
I nearly shit my pants just watching this on the screen.
Voelkar@reddit
We are not on their menu because there are no reported incidents of wild orcas attacking us. I don't know if this is relieving or rather concerning that there are no witnesses
Mysterious_Camel_717@reddit
I stick to relieving, it’s one of the only big predators we have no records of attacks from. They’re either so clever nobody’s ever seen someone get attacked and never leave any trace of their crime, in which case I surrender to our overlords; or they’re just cool ocean dudes
GrevilleApo@reddit
Might be even more eerie? They understand what we are as far as sentience goes and overall intelligence, so they all teach the others not to go after us because we will for sure get revenge. I find it eerie because they are SEEING us for what we are while we struggle to see them the same way.
Sum-_-Noob@reddit
I'd go as far and say that they are nearly as smart or even just as smart as humans.
It's just that they're marine animals. They need fins. And fins are not suitable for tool use. Just like a mouth isn't useful for tool use.
Yes, a Crow can use a stick as a tool, but you need more than a beak or mouth to build sophisticated tools. I think orcas would, if they could.
Humans just like to pretend that our level of consciousness is special. Because we don't even understand consciousness in ourselves. We like to think that we're special and that our intelligence is special. It isn't.
ladydhawaii@reddit
I think it's just a matter of time. We look like seals in our wet suits. At least a play toy.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Orcas often use their acoustic senses over sight, and can likely easily tell humans from seals using echolocation. In fact, the acoustic properties of wetsuits may make them even less appealing to orcas. As stated by orca researchers Dr. John Ford and Graeme Ellis in regards to mammal-hunting Bigg's (transient) orcas seen in the Pacific Northwest:
andykndr@reddit
>i surrender to our overlords
i still would rather not have my death be being dragged to the depths of the ocean
book_vagabond@reddit
Put a space in front of the angle bracket
Sum-_-Noob@reddit
No, they are highly intelligent. They most likely know that humans retaliate. I think they know our standing on this planet. And I like to think that orcas are smart enough to understand what humans did. That we're Land based animals that dominate the sea.
Also I've read that they don't seem to like the taste of human meat.
I think it's a combination of many things, but mainly their intelligence. They know it's not worth the hassle. They know humans retaliate and for that, a human has not much meat for an orca.
They hunt sharks just to eat the liver because it's tasty. I would go as far and say that if they weren't marine animals, they might've ended up as the dominant species. If they would have useful appendages for tool use, they might've evolved faster/smarter than us.
From what I know about orcas, they might be just as smart as us. But they can't use tools and communication between species has always been difficult, so humans like to pretend to be special.
Repulsive-Local-7478@reddit
Orcas eat fish and sea mammals. It’s rare when they run into humans. We don’t look like food they know they enjoy.
Plutowasmyplanet@reddit
For me growing up, I never ate steak. I mean never. We'd have it once in a blue moon, and I just ate other stuff on those nights. I eat steak now.
TheCraftyHermit@reddit
I genuinely believe that for orcas attacking humans is considered a cultural taboo, just because they're aware of how dangerous we are as a species. It's been only around a century since worldwide commercial whaling stopped, I don't doubt that such stories were passed on to them by their parents/grandparents.
raccooncheesecracker@reddit
I don't blame him, poor fella, but lowkey FUCK TILIKUM for making these guys way scarier than sharks to me.
Icy_Sea_4440@reddit
It’s only natural. They’re massive and we are fragile and can’t breathe under water. Even if I understand that logically the chances of something bad happening are very low I’ve retained a primal fear/survival instinct here. Monkey brain win
readskiesdawn@reddit
Same. An animal that big can hurt you without any intention or effort just by going about it's day.
mushyfrumpy@reddit
Yeah, great idea to be looking like a seal from the perspective of Orcas....dudes lucky af theyre intelligence is higher than his
kpizzle88@reddit
I have these recurring dreams about orcas. Not sure what they mean but I think if I ever got to experience this I’d be almost shitting my pants but also like this dude and absolutely enthralled. I can’t imagine a cooler experience, even if they decided that day was the day to find humans a delicious meal. Worth gushing over them and telling them their beautiful in the meantime. YOLO.
LibbyFelicity@reddit
I have dreams about orcas all the time!
NosamEht@reddit
Every time I’ve encountered wild life bigger than me I have also genuinely complimented it.
TinyFox1399@reddit
They'd probably kill me. Not because they'd try to but because I'm terrified of the ocean and almost everything in it. I'd just faint and drown right there.
Few_Cellist_1303@reddit
Do you think the Orcas feel the same way about us? "Wow, look at that interesting and beautiful animal! It even seems intelligent!"
Apprehensive_Bat8293@reddit
I went on a whale watching tour and before when they give the introduction with information about the orcas and other whales, all I could imagine was young orcas in the pod being briefed about humans the same way.
Matriarch: "So kids, today we might see homo sapiens, which is the scientific name for humans. Females can grow to about 5'5-5'6 on average in this area but the males are a little bigger and can get to over 6 foot in some cases! The young are especially playful but we should keep our distance, at least at first..."
Little orcas learning: "ooh"
BoarHide@reddit
Orcas are highly intelligent animals…I’m sure they’d use metric ;)
…or at least “fins” instead of “feet”
Apprehensive_Bat8293@reddit
I love that! Maybe they'd use both just because they can. But now I wonder how many centimetres are in a fin 🤔
Im_Rabid@reddit
Mom! Mom! What is this? Can I eat it?
No Jeremy it's clearly diseased, it's not even running from us.
Tardisgoesfast@reddit
I like to think of a baby orca named Jeremy.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
I don't know about beautiful, but at least some orcas seem to find humans quite interesting
Orcas may be able to display theory of mind towards humans and may be interested in relating to them.
Here is what whale researcher Jared Towers and neuroscientist Dr. Lori Marino have to say, taken from an article on the phenomenon of wild orcas sharing food with humans:
As is also stated by Towers, who is one of the authors of that study:
The food-sharing behaviours are considered exploratory behaviours by the researchers because orcas are observed usually pausing to see how humans respond to their actions, and thus the orcas are likely "testing" the humans. The behaviours of orcas offering food and other objects to humans are likely just extensions of well-documented cultural behaviours where orcas share food with each other, likely forming and strengthening bonds between each other. The researchers have thus labeled the behaviour as a form of "generalized altruism," where the orcas extend this behaviour across species towards humans as well.
Possible reasons for orcas to engage in this of type of behaviour are stated by the authors of the research paper:
Having theory of mind doesn't guarantee an orca won't harm a human. But it would mean that orcas see humans as being quite different from their prey and other animals. They may recognize that humans also have our own different perspectives and that we also may also be another highly social and intelligent lifeform. Also, unlike other sea creatures, humans may represent a realm (dry land) which orcas do not have access to, so perhaps this could make them more curious and perhaps cautious around people.
There have indeed been extensive historic relationships between humans and orcas, the most famous of which was Old Tom's pod forming a cooperative relationship with whalers in Eden, Australia. Both Aboriginal and western whalers cooperated with these orcas in Twofold Bay, New South Wales. The orcas would alert the whalers to the presence of baleen whales in the area by breaching or tailslapping near the cottages of the Davidson family. The orcas would also often assist in the hunt itself. After a whale was harpooned, some orcas would even grab the ropes with their teeth to assist the human whalers in hauling. It is possible this cooperative relationship was actually started by these orcas approaching and offering humans their food and the humans reciprocating many years ago, or vice versa.
SilverGirlSails@reddit
IIRC, there’s been some instances of orcas swimming up to divers with food in their mouths, and they appear to be offering the humans it as a gift. No one has accepted it so far.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
A few humans have accepted but returned the food back. For example in this encounter with Dr. Ingrid Visser:
Lovelitchi_in_pink@reddit
Awa. “I come baring gifts”
Inestimable_Me@reddit
researchers think they are curious about life outside of the water
Key-Specific3288@reddit
Even Russians releasing their captured orcas and here in US we still keep them in captivity! Shame on you America, the Land of Freedom! What a joke
Key-Specific3288@reddit
I can’t even watch orcas kept in captivity. It’s heartbreaking!!! I even refuse to think about torture these animals experience day by day. There should be some way to free them all!!! It’s criminal!!!
OkWorld5534@reddit
Okay but it would be better with dolphins right? Wayyy less anxiety that way? These ones are spooky af
pHaDeXoNeR801@reddit
On a paddle board mind you. I’d be freaking out like a seal.
carolinabeachbrat@reddit
Oh wow.. how lucky!! So sweet
KmiVC@reddit
what a dream 😭😭😭 lucky pal
DogMomLannie@reddit
Apex pred being so friendly 😊
Ska-0@reddit
Apex predator from the water meets apex predator from the land.
i would love to know what orcas a thinking when they meet humans.
„Hey bud, same sport, different team.“
„i could eat him now, but his family maybe coming to kill me then. Not worth it.“
„i wonder how you can be so small, when your guys are eating all those fish from the ocean and propably there might be food on land too.“
cliffjumperprime29@reddit
Orcas and humans used to work together hunting larger whales in Australia.
Ska-0@reddit
i did not know that! 😲
do you got an article or sth about that for me? ☺️
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
There are a couple Wikipedia articles on Old Tom and the other orcas that worked with him, known as the Killers of Eden.
clawmachines@reddit
This video makes me sooo happy. I'd be a little nervous but since I know they don't attack humans and the NZ orcas are particularly friendly/curious about humans. I'd probably be crying happy tears haha
clawmachines@reddit
Also the NZ orcas mostly eat non-mammalian prey (they specialize in hunting types of rays). They will prey on dolphins, but there's no way an orca will mistake you for a dolphin.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
The pelagic NZ orcas that eat other dolphins belong to a different "ecotype" from the coastal NZ orcas that are ray specialists and don't eat mammals. The ones in the video are more likely the latter.
clawmachines@reddit
Ooh that's good information ty! I love the NZ orcas and wanna know more about them
Beginning-Ice-7172@reddit
First time for everything /s
fancycakelover@reddit
Not me watching with one eye open expecting an absolute blood bath any moment now 😂
Artistic-Ad-8603@reddit
What a lovely video. Thanks for sharing. The human shows such reverence for these beautiful creatures. His voice is divine, respectful, filled with awe.
AlbertTheHorse@reddit
"not a seal, shucks"
_nouser@reddit
It's a thing they do. Look up Spy-hopping.
AlbertTheHorse@reddit
Oh yes, I live in WA state and have seen them, grays, and follow the Orca Institute on youtube.
This is likely transient, right? who feed on marine mammals.
The resident pods of the southern salish sea/puget sound rely on the salmon.
I heard his accent and figured they were transients double checking the snack options.
TwitchyNo2@reddit
He couldn't sound any less American.
AlbertTheHorse@reddit
I never said he sounded American.
I thought Australian or New Zealand
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
These New Zealand coastal orcas don't eat seals anyway. They are ray specialists.
AlbertTheHorse@reddit
Cool, I did not know that
LimitAlternative2629@reddit
Let's not forget, those are killers
KittyMimi@reddit
Incredible!!!
Evildeern@reddit
How far out is this guy!?
Both-Rub402@reddit
Fucking incredible
molsmama@reddit
Same - I’d have a combo of “I can die happy” and “please don’t decide I’m the one that looks like a seal.”
550Senta@reddit
Fortunately these orcas don't eat seals in the first place.
sleepyplatipus@reddit
Yeah I’d be more worried about my board looking like a seal from below and them going for a bite, but I think they’re probably too smart and have better sight than that. Anyway they definitely took a good look so clearly that wasn’t their first instinct… still a bit scary to know what they could do if they felt like it!! But gorgeous.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
They can easily tell the difference, though they may still mouth objects out of curiosity. For example, Lukas Reilly also filmed a video of a curious young orca briefly mouthing his paddleboard.
Great white sharks typically don't target humans as prey, but unlike orcas, many sharks often bite objects likely due to curiosity, and on rare occasions this includes humans. This of course can still greatly harm whatever animal they are biting. Even more rarely, after taking the initial bite, the shark(s) involved may decide to consume the rest of the human.
Orcas and other dolphins, on the other hand, do not often really bite down hard on objects out of curiosity. Their echolocation abilities can provide them a lot of information about objects they ping without needing to get very close (and their eyesight is pretty decent too). They do sometimes mouth objects out of curiosity, appearing to rarely bite down hard on them. Unlike sharks, orcas only get a single set of teeth for life, so biting unfamiliar objects always has a fairly sizeable risk to them.
HumonculusJaeger@reddit
Those whales also could just attack you out of boredome
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
That is where the "theory of mind" hypothesis comes in, especially in light of encounters with orcas attempting to share food and other objects with humans around the world.
These food-sharing behaviours are considered exploratory behaviours by the researchers who authored that study because orcas are observed usually pausing to see how humans respond to their actions, and thus the orcas are likely "testing" the humans. The behaviours of orcas offering food and other objects to humans are likely just extensions of well-documented cultural behaviours where orcas share food with each other, likely forming and strengthening bonds between each other. The researchers have thus labeled the behaviour as a form of "generalized altruism," where the orcas extend this behaviour across species towards humans as well.
Possible reasons for orcas to engage in this of type of behaviour are stated by the authors of the research paper:
Wild orcas do not really interact with many other species in this way, usually either ignoring, harassing, or killing other sea creatures. Likely due to their often "xenophobic" nature and also their status as apex predators, wild orcas typically do not try to socialize with other cetaceans, even if the orcas belong to a population that does not hunt other marine mammals. It seems that orcas see humans a bit differently, and may be interested instead in relating to humans and attempting to learn more about the humans they encounter.
SoundOfUnder@reddit
This is my dream
Fine-Orchid7982@reddit
If I were in that situation, I would have just mentally re-signed my will.
Enough_Ad5301@reddit
At least you don't have to worry about sharks in the area.
Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit
this is what first came into my head. you're at the safest spot in the ocean when you're beside the most dangerous thing living in it.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
They definitely hunt sharos.
Tyrannical-Botanical@reddit
I would be so stoked, but also probably pee myself a little.
Realistic-Walk9691@reddit
Yeah I kinda feel that in his voice. Like that voice when you meet a pit bull. Like it’s probably gonna be fine… but…
“Hey buddy!” looks carefully at body language
Mars_Zbl@reddit
this
butterbean8686@reddit
The temptation I’d feel to hop on, grab a dorsal fin, and take a ride, would be too great.
Either that or I’d piss my pants in fear.
Agile-Knowledge7947@reddit
“A little”?!?!?
Tyrannical-Botanical@reddit
As a treat.
notloggedin4242@reddit
It would be ok. You’re already in the ocean and there’s not even anyone around to notice!
Tokihome_Breach6722@reddit
Such a precious moment, and your tone was just right to enjoy the interaction.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Justin Serville filmed this near Castor Bay on Auckland's North Shore in New Zealand.
He stated the following about his encounter here:
endangeredphysics@reddit
Do you know if those were calves? They seem pretty small.
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
They do appear to be a couple of curious juveniles.
MrUpVoteDownvote@reddit (OP)
Thank you for sharing this. 🤝
Vivid_Elderberry_801@reddit
Awwwww. Check out the Hooman.
zanhuor@reddit
I’d be terrified lol. But so cool!
Grammagree@reddit
I would die from fright on the spot. I am very glad many of you have the opposite reaction.
HashiraHotze@reddit
It’s hard to see other people living your dreams 😭😍
Rammipallero@reddit
I would love to get to experience this
morethanWun@reddit
So badass
riza_dervisoglu@reddit
Yusssuf yussuffff!
OverallStrength2478@reddit
I dove with white and bull sharks and humpback whales and swam along a blue whale (accidentally) but for some reason I am more “scared” of orcas then the sharks - I’d pee myself a lot 🤭
SilverGirlSails@reddit
Queen of the ocean; orcas are the most powerful matriarchy on earth.
Confident_Fortune_32@reddit
One of the very few mammals besides homo sap that goes through menopause. The post-menopausal matriarchs become leaders, and their long memories are relied upon to navigate to the best feeding and calving grounds.
Damnitwasagoodday@reddit
Queens of the ocean! Orcas have a matriarchal social structure even though the males tend to be larger in size.
erossthescienceboss@reddit
& relatedly, females are larger for most baleen whale species!
Takes a big animal to make giant babies!
Damnitwasagoodday@reddit
Mama humpbacks are unreal!
Adanma369@reddit
Orcas are dolphins
butterbean8686@reddit
The temptation I’d feel to hop on, grab a dorsal fin, and take a ride, would be too great.
Either that or I’d piss my pants in fear.
LazRboy@reddit
Guy would be dead within 30 seconds if they wanted to.
vantageviewpoint@reddit
Yeah, but for whatever reason, they don't.
Complete-Leg-4347@reddit
It might seem like a paradox, but apex predators can be surprisingly picky in their choice of prey. In the northern Pacific, some orcas go out of their way to feed primarily on chinook salmon, even when other types of fish are more plentiful/easier to find.
_nouser@reddit
They're smart..they know about the vengeance humanity posses. They'd prefer not to experience it.
vantageviewpoint@reddit
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason so few predators hunt us is because so many individual animals that try get removed from the gene pool.
mkat23@reddit
The only other video I’ve seen of orcas interacting with someone on a paddle board (maybe surf board, I can’t remember) consisted of the woman saying “oh fuck” over and over again lol.
Complete-Leg-4347@reddit
Saw that as well. Can understand the freak-out, but to me it just seemed like they were being nosey :)
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Lukas Reilly also filmed a video 200 meters off of Kuaotunu Beach on Coromandel Peninsula on the North Island of New Zealand. He saw a curious young orca briefly mouth his paddleboard.
Diezel_D1982@reddit
Always incredible to see such a beautiful site🐋
-__4@reddit
Whale killers. I'd probably faint from fear
Specific-Diver-4108@reddit
Good bye 👋 Or you'll be next on their menu. Duh 🙄
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
These NZ coastal orcas don't consider marine mammals as food, let alone humans.
As stated by the man in the video:
OptimusPrime1555@reddit
I would try and pet them and then somehow die. But, as I died I’d be saying “WHALE WHALE WHALE WHATTA YA KNOW”
FutureFuture5@reddit
Whale: Are you food?
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
They know perfectly well he isn't. These NZ coastal orcas don't even eat other mammals.
RoyalB1ue@reddit
Wow this mans scream of peril is quite pleasant to listen to.
No-Camel3475@reddit
I would literally shut my pants
Easy-Fix1735@reddit
I bet orcas think the same thing: hello beautiful! Can I have a taste of you?
SurayaThrowaway12@reddit
Orcas are highly conservative and selective predators that learn what to eat from their mothers and podmates. They aren't really curious about finding new prey to eat and will rarely stray from the diets learned during their respective cultural upbringings, even when starving. And on top of all this, these New Zealand coastal orcas in the video don't eat mammals anyway.
As stated by Justin Serville, who filmed this video:
Even to mammal eating orcas, humans are likely very odd looking and don't resemble any of their prey species. So they don't seem to recognize humans as being a potential prey species.
_Kendii_@reddit
I would die if I had this experience. Not because scared, but because what tops this?
XxThatVegasChickxX@reddit
Who pooped my pants!?
Maestr0o0@reddit
Wow amazing video! I would be tempted to dive in and swim with them. I wonder how they would react. This pod seems especially curious & friendly
Lizzie_Everdeen@reddit
I love orcas, but I'd be a bit nervous of falling into the water. Doesn't really matter to me how friendly they are, I don't wanna be in the water with massive ocean predators. Happy to watch them from a boat though!
Electrical-Tea-4559@reddit
Best friend shaped and ACTUALLY best friend. It’s so hard to see others live your dream
Jolly-Biscuit@reddit
My favorite animal in the whole world. Such amazing creatures. I'm really jealous
SnoopyFan6@reddit
Amazing encounter!
ToujoursAutre@reddit
He is living my best life!
walk-the-talk@reddit
The dream