To the DOT Officers, who lurk this sub..
Posted by Donjohnson33@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 109 comments
… how do you rationalize, doing inspections, on Drivers who are sleeping or off the clock. Here in Ohio, I see it all the f’n time!
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
Not a DOT officer, but you don't have to answer when they knock. open your window or vent in the sleeper and ask what they want. And then tell them you will comply when your mandatory rest period is over at whatever time it ends. Do not get in the front seat to do this because they can technically get you for a log violation since you are no longer in the sleeper.
RamblingswithInoki@reddit
This is 100% false, and here’s why, FMCSA guidance has historically recognized that a driver can be physically present in the driver’s seat during off-duty time in some situations without automatically violating HOS. For example resting while parked, speaking to law enforcement, moving paperwork, checking surroundings, waiting at a shipper, or responding to a knock on the door.
As a legal analyst, I’m well aware of all 99 FMCSA laws that start at 49 CFR 300 - 49 CFR 399.
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
49 CFR 395.2 states differently. You might want to refresh yourself on what the definition of on-dity time consists of.
RamblingswithInoki@reddit
49 C.F.R. § 395.2 defines on-duty time as time when a driver is working, required to be ready to work, inspecting/servicing the vehicle, loading/unloading, remaining in attendance of the vehicle, or otherwise performing compensated work.
But the regulation does NOT literally say: “Sitting in the driver’s seat automatically equals on-duty.”
That is where internet trucking arguments often go sideways and drivers argue they know the law better than legal analysts.
FMCSA guidance and enforcement practice matter alongside the text of the regulation itself. A parked driver waking up and rolling the window down for DOT is not automatically “on duty.”
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
Technically sitting in the driver's seat and rolling down the window for an inspection puts the driver on-dity since they could be considered as participating in the inspection.
RamblingswithInoki@reddit
That’s ONLY for inspection once the inspection starts! If it’s for parking illegally and giving a citation you are wrong it’s not flat across the board! Just rolling down the window to speak to law enforcement does not automatically put you into on duty status!
driver004@reddit
Not a violation until the log is validated, which doesn’t need to happen until the next day
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
Technically it would be if you sit down in the front seat and turn the key to open the window. I've personally met some DOT officers that would issue this as a violation.
Mpnav1@reddit
That could be entrapment if you had a half decent lawyer.
You can’t tell a drunk person to move their car and then cite DWI.
(Former LEO)
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
Then you should know what entrapment consists of. But a driver voluntarily getting in the driver's seat to turn the key to open the window is not entrapment. Drivers have tried going that route with Ohio troopers and it keeps getting thrown out.
driver004@reddit
I’d like to see a court citation then, sitting in the drivers seat does not in and of itself constitute work for the carrier or paid work for anyone else regardless of the status of the key per the definitions laid out in FMCSA regulations
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
There’s no courts. End of the day it’s up to whatever dot decides. That’s the industry we exist in unfortunately.
driver004@reddit
That’s a bald face lie
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
DOT violations, not vehicle code. There is nothing other than data Q which is NOT a court. Vehicle code / traffic laws yes there is a court.
driver004@reddit
DataQ itself is a independent review which ‘the DOT’ generally doesn’t have the final say in
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
I guess they’ve made some recent changes. I was basing this off of hearing DOT officers say “data Qs just end up on my desk at the end of the day” in a smug kinda way.
“DataQs challenge for an FMCSA violation is usually overseen by the state agency or FMCSA office that entered the original inspection or violation into the system — not solely by the individual officer who wrote it. The request gets routed through the official DataQs system to the “data owner,” which is typically the state DOT, highway patrol, state police CMV division, or an FMCSA division office.
The issuing officer can still play a role, but historically the amount of influence varied a lot by state:
In many states, the reviewing agency would contact the inspecting officer for clarification, notes, supporting documents, or to ask whether they agreed with changing/removing the violation.
In practice, some challenges were effectively decided by supervisors or review personnel relying heavily on the officer’s input.
However, the officer was not supposed to be the sole final authority over the challenge.
Recently, FMCSA tightened the rules specifically because many drivers and carriers complained that officers were “reviewing their own homework.” In 2026 FMCSA announced revised DataQs requirements that:
prohibit the issuing/inspecting officer from being the decision-maker on challenges involving their own inspection,
require more independent multi-stage review procedures,
and require better explanations for denials. “
From LordGPT
Mpnav1@reddit
It could be said that he was at the direct of the officer, so, not voluntarily.
driver004@reddit
Kinda in the other side of the wire from LEO but not generally hostile to them.
And maybe that’s why I know for a fact it’s utterly pointless to argue with a cop. Sure circle your wagons cover your ass where you can (mostly by shutting the fuck up) and do your arguing via your lawyer
DumatRising@reddit
Fr it's not like the cop even makes the final decision.
Plus there's two types of cops the cop that knows what he's doing and so knows he's good to cite you, and the cop that doesn't. Arguing with the cop that knows is stupid cause they actually know the laws, and arguing with the cop doesn't is stupid cause he doesn't give a shit.
Right or wrong, smart cop or dumb cop all roads lead to lawyering up.
driver004@reddit
And shutting up, and never consent to shit especially when you are innocent
vastowen@reddit
How the fuck is this a violation
DumatRising@reddit
Technically its a HOS violation to be in SB while not in the sleeper. It's also technically a violation to be off/on duty while in your sleeper. But also technically anyone who writes you up for those is a cunt.
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
Entrapment means getting someone to do something illegal they wouldn’t otherwise do. But fmcsa regs and criminal law are two different things entirely. Fmcsa there is no judge or jury. Even a data Q just goes back to the officers that initiated the offense in most cases.
fliversnaps@reddit
Fort Lauderdale police & Broward Sheriff's office have done this and probably still do.
fliversnaps@reddit
Should state four wheeler's not semi's.
NegusTyGaming-YPSTFU@reddit
But youre not an officer..sounds like some shit an officer would say..so fuck the scale house
Mental_Chef1617@reddit
You do realize that you don't have to be at a scale house to get an inspection? Many states will do inspections in rest areas also along with other places.
radujohn75@reddit
ND is bad for this. West of Jamestown, East of Bismarck ( both sides there )
Spare-Good-5372@reddit
That's a dick move
tubingan@reddit
They ain’t your friends, friend
radujohn75@reddit
I keep telling this to people ... and nobody catches on ...
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
They ain’t your buddy guy
tubingan@reddit
They ain’t your boss, chief
StructureBetter2101@reddit
Contact your safety department and have them dataq the violation.
driver004@reddit
Honestly every carrier should contest every violation on principal
driver004@reddit
Then they would be issuing it incorrectly unless you validate your logs early for some weird reason.
theFoamBorn@reddit
Don't believe that. Not certifying your logs is not a magic bullet to prevent violations.
It specifically states in 395.8 DOT Regulatory Guidance, Question 3 that enforcement action can be taken against the driver even though the record may not be signed.
driver004@reddit
If a clear violation in context of the combined record can be discerned, such as 14 hours of continuous drive time.
Any citation for answering your door during off duty hours is a instant toss out if it even happens
theFoamBorn@reddit
No one should write a false log violation for the above scenario.
I just don't want someone to think not validating your logs is some magic hack and end up getting themselves in trouble.
driver004@reddit
It’s not a magic hack, it’s the truth. The logs are updated on 24 hour intervals at change of duty status events. If a cop jumps you before validation you already have ammunition to contest it. I used 14 hours continuous drive time for a reason, in that any violation would need to be pretty clear
theFoamBorn@reddit
Sure, go for it bud. Logs are required to be current to the time of the last change of duty status. Validated or not.
driver004@reddit
Yeah, the last change of duty status. Meaning that if I went off duty then I stick my head out the window to see whose banging a few hours later then my logs are current. Unless I validated them already which itself is already pretty technical
bingeflying@reddit
I’m an airline pilot and I thought the FAA was anal. Fuck me man thats fucked
driver004@reddit
Bear in mind a lot of truckers beleive in a lot of things being regulated when they are just not.
Case in point I have never really made my bed in the cab, I just only keep blankets and pillows on it and I’ve never gotten in trouble for it despite widespread belief that not making your bed is citeable
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
(e) Equipment. A sleeper berth must be properly equipped for sleeping. Its equipment must include:
(1) Adequate bedclothing and blankets; and
(2) Either:
(i) Springs and a mattress; or
(ii) An innerspring mattress; or
(iii) A cellular rubber or flexible foam mattress at least four inches thick; or
(iv) A mattress filled with a fluid and of sufficient thickness when filled to prevent “bottoming-out” when occupied while the vehicle is in motion.
driver004@reddit
See all, nothing saying it be made
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
Yep. People just make up stuff and then it get parroted. All the regs are online and anyone could just ask ChatGPT and ask it to link citations they can go read for themselves. It’s wild in 2026 the random stuff I hear people say that’s just flat wrong.
driver004@reddit
Kinda like the firearms thing, there is no federal regulation that says you can’t have a firearm in a cmv, the reason it’s a bad idea has to do with the different regulations between the states
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
I do always carry a tactical flashlight ( people underestimate how useful these can be). Pepper spray and a knife. Diff levels of force. But if it’s a gun fight then ig ima let em take whatever.
Mostly my concern is more about a tweeker in the night trying to break in. Or some mentally ill homeless person on a major city. Both situations I’d much rather use lessor force than a gun. People always talk about carrying a knife for protection but hardly consider what it will be like on the backend of that. Taking someone’s life isnt something anyone should plan for. Id much rather blind someone or mace em and drive away personally.
driver004@reddit
You described two categories of persons which absolutely require maximum force to deal with in context of a CMV.
And I’m a CIB holder, explain your position on tactical flashlights
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
Using lethal force in many states or most of them requires a threat or what appears to be the same level threat. If you pepper spray someone cops will laugh about it. Doesn’t matter what you hold end of the day if you’re not a LEO you’re still getting hooked, charged, and processed thru the courts.
Tact lights esp quality ones with a stun mode can be a great tool. Even if you’re armed you cant aim if you can’t see. And most will view carrying something like a flashlight as a novelty. Including potential threats. If you ever went thru a very basic level firearms safety course they usually cover such things. Pepper spray and flashlights can be a very very useful carry item.
Besides that I use my EDC flashlight to do pre trips, to safely cross busy streets / get cars attention so they don’t mow me over. Or just blast some idiot doing 40mph thru the truckstop about to hit me or someone else for my own amusement.
driver004@reddit
Yeah that’s not how any of that works, the use of force in self defense doesn’t have any such ridiculous ‘matching’ requirement, merely a reasonable fear for one’s life or for major injury responded to by a reasonable level of force.
Even when we apply the duty to retreat standard the waters start muddy as the CMV is reasonably comparable to our residence but even disregarding any such argument there is little to no reasonable place to retreat from a sleeper berth.
Concerning your flashlight theory, I’m not at all suprised you don’t know what a CIB is, but in short trying to blink it at some crack head who’s clearly intent on significant violence involving you and such a confined space is only going to make the resultant visuals more interesting
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
Legally speaking a CMV is not a resistance as courts have held time and time again when compared to a car or RV one lives on. Even LEOs are expected to use reasonable force for example you can’t shoot someone swinging a teddy bear at you vs you could if they were holding a knife. These are actual legal standards it’s not as simple as claiming you were in fear and case closed. Beyond that you’re still gonna have to fight the case against you.
At point blank range I could argue spray and a knife is just as if not more effective than a firearm. I’m not anti firearm in any way I should add. Just talking about what the law allows. And in many states it absolutely does not allow you to shoot an un armed person and just claim you were in fear. But you can believe whatever you wish I suppose.
You claiming that a CMV gives you any extra rights in the situation or anything compatible to a physical residence tells me you haven’t studied law as much as you may think or are otherwise misinformed. If you’re actively carrying I hope you have carry insurance because these types of cases aren’t cheap to litigate nor is bail.
driver004@reddit
1) didn’t claim the CMV granted any additional rights that’s an outright fabrication 2) if you think that legal analysis does not factor in the individual circumstances of a case, particularly in a claim of self defense you are dead wrong 3) the relative effectiveness of knives, sprays, or firearms are wholly irrelevant to the question of use of force 4) the word reasonable does some pretty heavy lifting in this area of law in particular, and there is no reasonable expectation to be forced to verify the intentions or equipment possessed by an intruder who is breaking into your cornered and very confined space and 5) a reasonable fear for one’s life, limbs or eyesight is practically the basis of a self defense claim the question next is does a duty to retreat exist
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
Fair enough
Numerobofis@reddit
People that believe that are ridiculous
driver004@reddit
I mean, where I first started out I get why they would say it but it was pretty specific.
I worked for a factory where like 90% of the fleet were day cabs and if you got caught out there they’d get you a hotel no problems. But we had a few sleeper cabs on kinda a just in case / very specific runs basis.
So they’d treat the make your bed beleif gospel to the new guys so they’d remember to bring sheets in case you got assigned a sleeper cab for some damn reason
SchityCityGangBang@reddit
This is a myth. They can inspect anytime whether you’re off duty or not and if you don’t comply they can put you out of service. You could also potentially be arrested for not complying with an officer asking you can step out of the vehicle under Pennsylvania v Mimms as it could be argued it’s a traffic stop.
The key thing to understand here is that in many states if you are in the cab and have physical access to the keys you could be considered “in physical control of the vehicle”. This could also apply to being intoxicated in the sleeper. You can search relevant case law on that for yourself.
“That’s where case law, state enforcement practice, and FMCSA interpretations come into play.
Generally speaking:
If you are actively operating or in control of the CMV, you are expected to comply with an inspection.
If you are parked, in sleeper berth/off duty, and not operating, the situation becomes more legally gray.
Officers can still initiate contact and request documents.
Refusing entirely can escalate into obstruction/refusal allegations under state law or administrative enforcement.”
The smart move is to not park at rest areas if you know that happens allot in those places. Colorado comes to mind.
Tl;dr you may beat the case, but you won’t beat the ride.
driver004@reddit
Yes, you must respond to a officers lawful commands, and not only can they flag you for inspection at any time in a cmv they can, fun fact, even tell you to drive off duty (strictly speaking it counts as a PC move) to another location if during the course of their duties they decide you need to fuck off.
Being that DOT inspections are a part of the normal duty of the driver in employment to the carrier paid or unpaid, it would be appropriate to switch to on duty upon being notified that you are being subject to inspection while off duty.
Now if you want to get into the really fun legal grey area, that concerns searches. While the legal protections concerning searches are weaker when operating a CMV, such as the fact they straight up can inspect your sleeper berth at will, strictly speaking they are not supposed to tear through personal items unless they have probable cause of some kind to do so.
However, it’s exceptionally easy for a DOT cop to get PC considering the more stringent restrictions placed on commercial drivers, so for the love of god don’t trust anyone who says having a unopened bottle of booze to bring home as a gift in the storage under your bunk will be safe (I’ve heard that before).
StructureBetter2101@reddit
Only if you are using sleeper berth, if you are off duty you can sit in the driver seat.
Gr00veChild@reddit
I've heard that if front curtains are out then that "extend" the berth but I don't trust that enough to test it personally.
driver004@reddit
Ive almost never used sleeper berth rather off duty all the time just to avoid all that and ive never had any issues
StructureBetter2101@reddit
Yeah I never actually ran OTR, daycab for a long time but I tried my hand at driver manager for an otr company and didn't care enough either way, never heard of any of our drivers getting dinged for an off duty inspection or for getting into the driver seat while off or sleeper berth.
USS_peepee@reddit
Or hotshots driving with no IFTA all day every day.
RamblingswithInoki@reddit
Kalea Luna covered this on her TikTok channel that 49 CFR 396.9 authorizes FMCSA officials to inspect commercial vehicles at any time or place, including while a driver is in the sleeper berth. While this authority allows for potential interruption of rest, CVSA Operational Policy 15 advises inspectors against disturbing drivers in sleepers unless there is an immediate safety hazard or they are breaking the law (such as parking in a No Parking Zone).
If an inspection requires a driver to move the vehicle or perform duties, they must switch to "On-Duty" status, which may invalidate a current 10-hour sleeper berth/off-duty break.
The Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA) sets guidelines suggesting inspectors should not disturb drivers in the sleeper berth for random inspections, but an inspection can still legally occur.
49 CFR 395.1(g)(1)(i)(A)-(B) says the requirement for sleeper-berth time for property-carrying vehicles, stating drivers must accumulate "at least 10 consecutive hours off duty" or "at least 10 consecutive hours in sleeper berth status”, it does not include “uninterrupted” 10 hours of off duty or sleeper berth. It’s a common misconception drivers have.
stiffndrippy@reddit
This.
Although legal, any DOT officer that would do an inspection on a resting driver is misguided. Any agency that allows their officer to do it needs to reevaluate their mission and their risk management model. In the end, the practice is contrary to the purpose of FMCSA…safety.
pattop@reddit
Goway, batin.
RollinHellfire@reddit
For me DOT is Din Offentlige Transport.
FantasticPainting232@reddit
They were doing this at a rest area just north of laredo on 35. I was trying to get in a little 3 hour nap but they kept blowing their sirens to wake up another driver to inspect. Or maybe they were just pulling them over as they were coming in. Luckily I got a 2 notched yellow 6 sticker on my windshield. They left me alone.
Muad_Dib_of_Arrakis@reddit
What's the significance of this?
SystemOfAFoX@reddit
I believe he's talking about the passed inspection stickers given at weigh stations. Here in california they put them on the passenger side windshield. I've had roadside DOT officers just let me go when they notice a current year sticker.
driver004@reddit
Now I’m pissed, I’ve had 3 or 4 inspections these past several years to a decade and passed all of them and never got a fucking sticker
National-Answer-9792@reddit
If they don't offer, make sure and ask for one! Last time I passed one for both truck and trailer, it was a damp day, off and on rain. The scale house crew was finishing me up inside as a pair of younger officer's went to put my stickers on truck and trailer. They scraped the old one off windshield, and put the trailer one on, i thanked them and went along the way, happy I got those stickers. Probably 60 miles later, after I'd gotten empty and headed for home, I shut the wipers off,( that'd been the theme for the day, on/off,) and was looking at the bottom right corner of the passenger windshield and the horror of it! THE DAMN STICKER WAS ALREADY OFF! I don't know what happened since they were just finishing when I got back to the truck, but "how did they mess that up I thought." I've had to work and put a little effort into getting those old stickers off most times. I just scraped one off my '79 W900 that was from 1982 and it was still stuck tight and was leaving half the bottom layer on the glass!
After thinking it was pretty cool with that old sticker for so long, I finally decided it needed to come off so it didn't give one of the young DOT guys the idea that it was a dry rotted old beater rolling up the road that they needed to put in the most wanted posters
dewky@reddit
It has to be a level 1 inspection where they go under the truck. If they didn't crawl under you won't get a decal.
driver004@reddit
Those are the only ones I count as real inspections! I’ve gotten maybe most of a dozen roadsides, I’ve only gotten one citation in my life (fucking trailer abs)
dewky@reddit
Citation as in the only thing wrong on an inspection or you got a fine for that? Either way that's pretty crazy.
driver004@reddit
Citation as in a fix it ticket on a roadside in a highway shoulder it wasn’t even all that of a big deal, no money involved (outside of course fixing it, which I was already going to go do literally driving to a shop).
All my real inspections were the up your ass ones in weigh stations and passed all them never knew I was supposed to get a fucking sticker! Lol
FantasticPainting232@reddit
CVSA inspection passed sticker. 6 means 2026. Yellow means 2nd quarter. 2 notices means month 1 of the second quarter. Means I have a recent level 1 inspection passed which means they should leave me alone for a year or so from April 2026.
driver004@reddit
WTF I’ve never gotten a fucking sticker
FantasticPainting232@reddit
You should get one whenever you pass a full level 1 inspection.
driver004@reddit
I’ve only ever gotten 3 or 4 my whole life but still I want a fucking sticker
Muad_Dib_of_Arrakis@reddit
Thank you for the explanation!
driver004@reddit
I wanna say I’ve heard of this but I can’t place it. Police association sticker aka I paid into the pension slush fund sign maybe?
Tap__Tap__@reddit
they camp those rest areas and pull people in without mercy. They also go in the mornings sometimes and camp it out waiting for drivers to start pulling off. I avoid all of Laredos surrounding rest areas like the plague if i can help it.
DingleberryOrchard@reddit
This is very useful information. A coworker has been hyping up our Laredo terminal and despite going there numerous times never bothered to mention they have spawn campers.
driver004@reddit
I love Laredo normally
driver004@reddit
Yeah I have a list of out of the way shadey ass meth head infested paid lots I hide in during this week ngl.
My whole life I’ve only ever gotten one citation (trailer ABS light, Ohio state patrol pulled me over on the side of the highway to do a roadside and it wasn’t even blitz week can you believe that? I was literally on my way to a speedo previously logged that I was going to mechanic and everything). But I firmly believe that a big part of why is because I do what I can to minimize exposure to inspection in the first place
dewky@reddit
I don't unless I have a damn good reason to. Last time I woke up a co-driver it was because I knew his license was suspended.
driver004@reddit
Hehe the last time I got to wake up my co driver was also the last time I had a trainee (we started standard trainer having the trainee act like he was the only driver for a month or so depending then switched to team driving for the last bit)
This fucker I had would NOT wake the fuck up on time ever on phase one on time and no matter how much I bitched about it, pissed me right off and I was trying my best to be nice (he was a pretty excellent driver otherwise, for a brand new driver).
So we had home time in between his full solo trainee period and when he was to start the more team driving (call it semi supervised) and one thing about me my 4th of July is the best because I make my own stuff, so I used a old flash powder recipe they used to use for stage actor pyrotechnics, nice flash good noise not as touchy as other mixtures and made a bunch of what in a sleeper cab amounts to flashbang grenades.
The rig ran on time for the rest of his tenure as a trainee.
TacoRedneck@reddit
Yeah closest I ever came to firing someone as a trainer was with one trainee who wouldn't wake the fuck up. I was pretty lenient the first week and a half until I had to tell him that if he didnt get up on time for the rest of the trip, I had to fire him.
And we didnt even get up early, I dont like getting up early. 6 or 7 am was usually the start time. Meanwhile all the other trainers were getting up ag 2am. How fucking hard is it to be up at 7?
OrangeSpartan@reddit
Eh for night owls 2am is waaaay easier than 7am. 7am kills me I'd rather do anything than get up then, I feel like my entire body is falling apart and I'm on the verge of falling asleep for 3 hours. Anytime after 10am or before 5am feels fine, just that damn early morning window is evil. ADHD natural sleep rhythm ain't made for 7am
TacoRedneck@reddit
Im a night owl but id much rather drive into the night than wake up early.
driver004@reddit
On a training mission I base my rest schedules on purely what the dispatcher wants to throw at us (within the bounds of a sanity check). Even with me out here doing my thing, while often I get to roll out at my personally preferred time at between 3 and 4 am, I sometimes have to flex to greater or lesser times due to operational requirements. So my philosophy was that during that solo evaluation period we going rough. When we entered the quasi team driving phase after you got the initial full supervised upcheck, then I want to see the trainee take control of the route plan and thus the schedule. At that point we’ve established you can drive, now let’s see how you operate
KungFuFactory@reddit
Genuine question, do you guys not have chain of responsibility there?
If my off log rest time was disturbed by this type of fuckery and an incident occurred during that next work period, I could reasonably argue that my down time was broken by officer fucknuts and the responsibility is now his for disturbing my rest. You guys get shafted man.
driver004@reddit
I’d have to look it up but as I recall there’s a FMCSA rule that says a driver can’t be forced to drive if tired or sick regardless of HOS status I’d have to look it up.
That said, oof even for jaded fuck you I own this rig me I have a hard time resisting the pressure made by appointment windows and brokers sometimes
RamblingswithInoki@reddit
It’s 49 CFR 392.3 covers not being forced to drive if sick or tired even if you have drive time.
SycoJack@reddit
That's exactly what the rules say.
driver004@reddit
I like to think I have a knack for remembering what I read and I actually read FMCSA rules sometimes
LordBuggington@reddit
If you do get any here, I want to say you are gay and get a real job.
dewky@reddit
I am generally pretty happy and I like my pension, thanks.
PrivatePilot9@reddit
Just don’t answer. When I used to run highway and had a bunk, once those curtains were drawn the world could fuck right off, I wasn’t answering the door or even pulling the curtains for anyone.
dewky@reddit
I had a guy try this during a road closure due to a ton of spun out trucks on a mountain pass in winter. The road cleared up and he was sitting in the lane blocking traffic (single lane highway). I was yelling at him to chain up and get moving and he had to have heard me. He woke up pretty quick once the tow truck driver started hooking up to the truck. I get that off duty is your time but when you're stopped in traffic that doesn't work.
theFoamBorn@reddit
I don't. Yes, technically you are subject to inspection any time, anywhere. The general guidance is don't do it, with some rare exceptions.
Same logic with inspecting someone who pulled over on the side of the road with a flat tire. They put themselves out of service already.
AaronTuplin@reddit
As if those Road Pirates have a conscience or any fucking morals
qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit
Safety never sleeps. 🫡
GoBBleRoFDaCoK69@reddit
Shut up DOT officer
Always_Shifting_4459@reddit
That's not a DOT officer. That's Tom from myspace 🤣
qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit
You would be grumpy like me too if you could never eat pork BBQ, since you don’t participate in cannibalism.
1Stack_Mack@reddit
🤣