So, you’ve got a reform councillor now….

Posted by mkm118@reddit | miltonkeynes | View on Reddit | 30 comments

Sound advice. It seems we now all have at least one Reform councillor through voter apathy. Perhaps if we're a little more engaged, we can hold them to account and show them up for what they are.

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Operation-Healthed@reddit

Is this some Milton Keynes socialism club subreddit now? What a bunch of weak losers you lot are.
I notice no one is talking about the massive increase in crime and horrific offences like rape. But people voting for some change are the enemy? We all see what labour has done to this country, and you want Polanski in to remove the prisons built to house those monsters? Shame on you.

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Burning_Flag@reddit

You can disagree with Labour without pretending every problem in Britain appeared in the last year. Crime, NHS pressure, housing shortages, prison overcrowding and weak growth have been building for well over a decade under multiple governments.

Also, if we’re talking facts, the current government inherited:
- sluggish growth
- high debt
- stretched public services
- inflation and energy shocks after Ukraine
- overcrowded prisons that were already near capacity

You don’t fix structural problems overnight, especially when most Western economies are struggling with similar issues.

People voted differently because they were frustrated with the previous government, just as others are now frustrated with Labour. That’s democracy, not “the enemy”.

And calling everyone who disagrees with you “weak losers” doesn’t exactly strengthen your argument.

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Operation-Healthed@reddit

And that’s why you won’t find me voting Tory either.

Reform gets a few councillors and people are posting ‘advice’ from far left subreddits on how to handle this world ending news. It’s a subreddit about MK, not a fucking political zone for people to shove their views on someone trying to find a decent pizza place in Bletchley or something. Weak losers was directed at people feeling the post in here about their specific political views. Keep it to your own communist subreddits and do one.

Agreed. You don’t fix structural problem overnight. But you do fix them in 2 years. Or roughly 700 nights.

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EnjoysAGoodRead@reddit

Labour supporters will get to the end of the term saying "you can't fix the problems of the last 14 years in just 5 years you know."

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SoSpeaksGalactus@reddit

**Ronnie Pickering has entered the chat 🤣🤣🤣

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Nimble_Natu177@reddit

Is this some Milton Keynes socialism club subreddit now

No this is just all of Reddit, anything right of Maoism will get you banned from a lot of UK subs.

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ExcitingAd7338@reddit

I actually want Reform and Nigel Farage to ein the next general election and let's see exactly what they will achieve when they are in power. They are currently most electorates favourites because Tories and Labour clearly have messed the economy and everything else. Reform clearly won't do any better and will only blame the previous parties for their shortcomings. Even with immigration which is the only thing they seem to talk about.

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2JagsPrescott@reddit

Let’s be clear, Reform got votes because:

1) every other party has at some time been incumbent yet failed to do what the public wanted at local level.

2) The Tories are tarnished after having failed to deliver at national level whilst in government, and introducing the things nobody asked for.

3) the parliamentary Labour party are toxic, largely due to Starmer Reeves and Miliband failing to do what the public wanted and instead doubling down on exactly what the public don’t want.

Whilst local elections should focus on local issues, candidates are always going to be affected by the party they stand under, and right now people simply don’t trust those parties.

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Burning_Flag@reddit

Reform got in because the Conservatives, Labour & the greens were pretty much neck and neck as the 2nd party. If any had shown a substantial lead over the others Reform would not have got in.

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2JagsPrescott@reddit

Reform probably did as well as they could hope to, but they only took 9 out of a possible 60 seats, barely polled higher in percentage terms than their rivals, and finished behind all 3 establishment parties involved, in terms of seats held.

You've said none of the other parties could get a lead over each other, but now we have to ask why not? Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Labour all took or held seats and got a roughly equal share of votes (with Greens some way back from all of them), so why were none of them significantly more appealing to the electorate than each other? It can only be either their local performance or the wider party association - what else?

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