Anon weighs in on the Slay the Spire 2 reviews on Steam.
Posted by Bernie529@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 281 comments
Context:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/slay-the-spire-2-review-bombed-after-anita-sarkeesian-spotted-in-credits/ar-AA22Ebh9
I still love how gamergate destroyed and exposed gaming journalism.
It was one of the first instances where the media lost.😂
SinanZee@reddit
Omfg who CARES about her anymore how are people still crying about this
TheRealYM@reddit
What do you mean? People don’t like her, and she keeps popping up. Why would they tolerate her bullshit any more now than before
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
And what has she done in The past 5 years?
DancesWithChimps@reddit
Consult on STS2
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
And what did that change in the game? People reviewed it positively until pepper started raging that she’s in the credits
DancesWithChimps@reddit
I don't know. You asked what she's done, and she did that. Don't get mad at me for answering your question accurately.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
Alright, so you can’t point to anything she did… so what’s the issue exactly?
DancesWithChimps@reddit
I can point to her doing consulting work. Which is something she did in the last 5 years... Don't be dense, bro.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
“Bro I can’t identify even a single thing that she could’ve done, but she trashed this game”
LordSturm777@reddit
Nobody said that lmao, you're fighting the demons in your head
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
So she had no effect on the game
LordSturm777@reddit
Ah, you're just trolling. Lmao
Understandable.
SpencerM11@reddit
His point is: why is everyone up and arms over her consulting? That’s is the whole point of why this post was made.
Did you seriously not get that implication?
hEdHntr_@reddit
Because she's not a good person and people don't like her even being associated with things they like.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
I’m trolling and you can’t provide a single example of something she inflicted?
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
Does that matter? People don't like her for what she did and she hasn't changed but is still involved in high profile projects. People can voice their opinion that they don't want her involved.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
I am still waiting for someone to point out what she’s actually done to this game
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
She is a consultant and Slay the Spire isn't the type of game that her input would exactly be readily visible. Which again doesn't matter, the whole point is people don't want her input and that is their right.
The game is also in early access so unfortunately even if the devs add anything that can be interpreted as her input people will freak out about it again. Its no different than working with anyone else who has a bad reputation for something, she isn't special.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
The right? What bill of rights is that written in? I feel like if you’re trying to prove someone’s influence is bad, yet literally cannot provide a single piece of evidence speaks enough for me lol if you don’t want it don’t buy it. The impotent baby rage is what I don’t understand
sorryiamnotoriginal@reddit
So you are just being obtuse on purpose then in bad faith? You already made it clear you have no intent on seeing it the other way so why bother?
Like I already tried explaining it to you, her input doesn't have to be visible. People didn't like what she did back then so they don't want her to have influence now especially when she hasn't changed. Its that simple.
TheRealYM@reddit
So not only has she kept doing it, she hasn't changed at all either, and stands by everything in the end. So again, why would anyone continue to tolerate her bullshit simply because she isn't as relevant as she used to be?
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
So she’s talking? That’s it? And you call other people snowflakes lmao
Space_Lift@reddit
Yes, she's talking. And speech can be violence. She is assaulting me physically with her feminist nonsense.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
What has she said?
MonochromaticGuy@reddit
Sounds pretty defensive, NGL
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
An irrelevant feminist has had a chokehold on some of you that never let go lol
TheRealYM@reddit
I'm not comparing the two, but if Hitler came back today would you say the same thing? What has he done in the last 80 years? His opinions are just as shitty now as they were back then.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
I know it’s Reddit but comparing a female journalist to a genocidal dictator is pretty good
TheRealYM@reddit
Me when I never learned what hyperbole is in grade school.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
You need a dictionary
TheRealYM@reddit
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
Comparison is the act of examining two or more items, people, or ideas to identify their similarities, differences, or relative qualities. Yeah it’s two people, and you’re… *suggesting* something where you could possibly measure between the two… but definitely not comparing.
TheRealYM@reddit
I'm using an extreme example to highlight the fact that you're just being apathetic towards something that you don't personally care about. If it was Hitler coming back, you would care, but because either you don't care about Anita or you agree with her, you're choosing to ignore that thought process. Apathy is not a stance or an argument for anything.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
If it was a hypothetical that applied you’d have a better point. You have still yet to say what she has actually *done* to the game aside from have opinions
TheRealYM@reddit
Are you under the impression that consultants are credited specifically for every specific thing they contributed? I'm using her past and present track record to form my opinion. I don't want someone like her influencing things that I am interested in.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
She must not have had that big of an effect on it since it got really good reviews right out of the gate, only getting bad ones after it was pointed out she did consulting work for it. If you can’t point to anything she may have influenced, how can you use that as ammunition if you can’t literally come up with anything.
SpencerM11@reddit
You’re fighting A list degenerates right now man. You can tell how red his face is by the way he’s desperately trying to make himself seem smarter than you.
remi1771@reddit
you can know how smart someone is with how they deial with hypotheticals. Great job at showing he's... got a lot of potential
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
I graduated 3rd grade as the top of my class
remi1771@reddit
Nice, didn't know 3 person classes where a thing
Lastburn@reddit
Its very funny to watch everything she touches burn though
Lastburn@reddit
One does not argue with the Book of Grudges
MonochromaticGuy@reddit
Isn't it that people see red flag and call it out tho?
Like if some people see something retarded, then people call it retarded?
And here you are crying that people calling the retarded thing retarded for some reason...
TheRealYM@reddit
Also, yes, words have meaning. Her job is to talk and influence the industry in the direction of her vision. I don't want that.
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
What changes did she make to the game? Please explain
TheRealYM@reddit
Where did I do that
Careful-Evening-5187@reddit
Is this feminist in the room with us now?
Zeus78905@reddit
She's in the credits of the game
TheRealYM@reddit
Is your brain in the room with us right now?
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Hmmmm
aqlr@reddit
I love that comic lmao, thank you
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
There is a smuggie for every situation.
letsgoiowa@reddit
Where may I obtain more
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/counter-signal-memes
UntBag@reddit
Zeus78905@reddit
She's still crying about boobs and still works in the industry so of course they will be backlash
AtomicSymphonic_2nd@reddit
Conservatives hold grudges for a long time…
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
*remember whose a grifter
Weenoman123@reddit
"Can be activated by the cabal" for a long time...
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
She lied about games people liked to grift money when culture war bullshit started, leading to alot of big game studios changing the way they make games and releasing dogshit like the saint rows reboot and still gets money because one side keeps defending her when she was an obvious grifter.
omyrubbernen@reddit
The STS2 devs, apparently care about her.
Mysterious_Lawyer551@reddit
So true sister
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
if it didn’t matter she wouldn’t have a job
heathmcrigsby@reddit
Do you feel her involvement in the game should be kept secret from people who would rather not give money to anyone associated with her?
DancesWithChimps@reddit
Developers of STS2 apparently.
Hadnapaton@reddit
what’d she even do in relation to slay the spire
MrGame22@reddit
From what I understand it was just some character design
ItsMangel@reddit
She's listed as a consultant. Nobody outside of Megacrit knows what she actually did, they're screeching at nothing.
DogSerious1971@reddit
mere association with such a person is a clear sign of deep rot in a company, even a lefty could see that she is very unwelcome, people will boycott personalities like her and she's one of the original prime evils, her association is a massive liability even if you were to agree with her politics
people like her cost gaming companies billions of dollars
to ignore all of this and even be brave enough to publicly credit her is a sign that leadership is idealogivally blinded and people are very much in their right to voice their displeasure in every legal way they have
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
Still mad she took your screen boobies away? You know there websites for that, right? A nearly unending list of them, in fact.
Frequent_Ad_1992@reddit
Why are leftists so obsessed with watching porn
DillohWavern@reddit
As someone not in the know, she sounds like the 4chan equivalent of JK Rowling. With the exception that she is much less relevant in pop culture. Making it seem jarring how much people seem to hate someone that a majority of people don't even know.
Especially since the only people I know of who even know her name and have opinions on her happen to be radicalized 4channers. All other Gamer friends I ask about her are basically like, "Who?" They're more familiar with the term "gamergate" than the individuals behind it.
Not that she doesn't deserve it. I'm sure she does. But it's understandable why people are confused and annoyed by the outrage over someone or a situation they know nothing about, and would prefer to continue knowing nothing about.
itchylol742@reddit
i would play a video game made by the reincarnation of adolf hitler if the game was good
Athanas_Iskandar@reddit
Well yeah, because he’s a hero.
crockrocket@reddit
yawn
notapencil@reddit
Very normal and well adjusted post, go read it out loud to your nearest family member.
DeadlyPear@reddit
Get over yourself lmao
papu16@reddit
Can I also be paid to be a "consultant" who does absolutely nothing good for the game?
CremousDelight@reddit
What did they consult on? What was lacking on the game that required her expertise opinion?
Puzzled-Letterhead-1@reddit
keep simping bro
Keiji12@reddit
Idk, I thought sts2 situation is weird because some patch made Chinese players absolutely hate and review bomb it, not some political shit
MonochromaticGuy@reddit
Didn't know this side, what happened to the patch the the CN players hated the game?
HeightAdvantage@reddit
From what I heard they patched an a few infinite card cycle exploits. And Chinese players seem to hate losing their exploits
Public-Nectarine6607@reddit
thats a cope excuse, they have the F2 function just as everybody else does to leave feedback.
Freezinghero@reddit
I'm guessing thats why every Daily Challenge leaderboard used to be pages of random chinese names with 500 billion score.
762_54r@reddit
anything that pisses off chinese or russian or brazilian gamers is cool with me
Keiji12@reddit
Chinese players go off on random shit all the time and basically force their devs to change shit or boycott it. Think weebs are cringe? Go read on Chinese gacha games dramas, ppl really be boycotting games there because their favorite girl character talked to male npc too much
Alive-Big-838@reddit
Well there is literally a billion of them. these things can roll into a raging inferno real fast.
DarthVeigar_@reddit
These motherfuckers are actually insane.
Chinese players started killing cats because a character they dislike is comically depicted as one and he began interacting with a character they like.
One dude attempted to assassinate the president of HoYoverse (Genshin devs) because of an event that occurred on global servers.
762_54r@reddit
I know a white guy like this and he is NEVER getting pussy
minty-moose@reddit
genocide?
762_54r@reddit
is that in slay the spire 2? bbbased
TheSpartyn@reddit
they aren't exploits, some combos just let you go infinite, it was a thing in the first game too. but the devs have said they don't want it to be as easy as the first game in sts2 iirc
MalHeartsNutmeg@reddit
There was a boss in act 3 of the first game (which you wouldn’t know until you got to it) that killed infinite decks. 2 didn’t really have one so they changed doormaker to kill those decks and people got big mad.
InspiringMilk@reddit
Nemesis put status cards in 2/3 of his forms and had intangible in 1/3, queen chains your cards. Literally all 3 bosses have a "counter" to it.
MalHeartsNutmeg@reddit
Queen only chains the first 3 cards per round, you can draw in to your infinite to beat it.
By Nemesis I assume you mean test subject, I've seen people go infinite through intangible and just chip it 1 damage at a time in its third form. It's something I'm too dumb to figure out myself but it is possible.
Doormaker would just straight up alternate between stopping you drawing and deleting any cards you play. Really hard to get around it.
InspiringMilk@reddit
Only chains the first 3 cards, yes. If she does not chain the infinite, then it is fine. But they remain chained even when redrawn.
By Nemesis, I meant Test Subject in Nemesis form, and in Book of Stabbing form. They both give status effects.
CheekyHawky@reddit
They can leave feedback with an in-game feature
TonyTheTerrible@reddit
O aight didn't know i guess i like it then
Taiwan is a country
dadvader@reddit
It started that way until someone dig into the credit and found a name 'Anita sarkeesian' as consultant. It escalated from there.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Chuds and bugmen, TOGETHER against wokeslop
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
She's so ugly that she slayed my spire
Jimmi11@reddit
Protection racket. You cut her a check, she gives the nod to the legacy game reveiw sites to give you positive coverage.
bigtree2x5@reddit
I think y'all really overestimate the power of gaming review sites.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Estimating that game review sites review games is overestimating them?
Arcane_Monkey@reddit
Yeah.
captconan000@reddit
Why would STS2 need that? It had so much momentum from the first game it wouldn't have needed the publicity and if the review sites really did rate it low people would just clown on them
Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit
in the unsarkeesian cut of the game every card was just named different racial slurs
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
Higher up studio heads and management are morons
IWillBeYourSunshine@reddit
you're talking senses to 4chan chuds, might as well go outside and water rocks
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
Don't hate on rock watering bro, that's how the moss is born
-GhostTank-@reddit
looks like we got a moss hater here,boys
IWillBeYourSunshine@reddit
true, i just wish i had more unique rocks to water instead of showering the same 03 dudes
DancesWithChimps@reddit
Couldn't hurt. Might as well see if you can get gamer approval and media approval all at once.
Jimmi11@reddit
Because normies are highly regarded.
Pancreasaurus@reddit
They shouldn't have and didn't really but I suspect there was some behind the scenes threats they caved to or something.
11711510111411009710@reddit
So what is this comment based on? Like how do you know this is what her company does?
Dave5876@reddit
OP pulled it out his behind. This is just misogynist nonsense
WeebMachina@reddit
You people are fucking insane lmao
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
Propably blew a few of the Devs Ds
TheWalrusPirate@reddit
You will not get an answer, I have had 15 different people say that she was a consultant, and nothing else
PyroComet@reddit
Like fr. I've never played but I see friends being mad about it like as if the game decides to shoot their dog
Tury345@reddit
Game is fucking great, needs some balance changes to match the greatness of the first one but they're getting there
Kind of a bummer that it's now had multiple rounds of review bombing and controversy that feel so extremely undeserved
kcidskcustidder@reddit
The review bombing is the only way for Chinese players to even voice their concerns. It's kinda a dumb problem which causes some really fun clickbaity articles to be posted about it whe they ommit the context.
CheekyHawky@reddit
They can leave feedback with an in-game feature. I don't think it's blocked by the Chinese firewall
HHhunter@reddit
yeah they specifically let it bypass the firewall. But the chinese players spread rumors saying it doesnt work so they review bomb anyways
kcidskcustidder@reddit
Damn, I guess they really holding onto the fact that propped the first game up the first time and using that to blackmail Mega Crit
eatmynasty@reddit
Very funny that you can tie GamerGate directly to Trump getting elected three times.
BtownBlues@reddit
Why did you force me to do this? I just wanted to play video games
C_umputer@reddit
You can still ignore the dogshit that is going on and play games you enjoy, In fact if we all do that all woke games hit low earnings and will stop being released.
WindowShopper345@reddit
"just give up and don't fight for your ideals"
owPOW@reddit
>My ideals are big bouncy anime tiddies in my vidja and I’m willing to die on that hill
WindowShopper345@reddit
based. Now buy those games and those games only.
C_umputer@reddit
Not paying is the fighting for your ideals, and far more effective than making angry videos and giving them more attention, I might add.
BtownBlues@reddit
I dont pay and make my discontent known these hacks do not get to control the narrative anymore
bannabananabanna@reddit
you know whats great, by next year we will be able to say: " member that stupid pronoun fad you felt so strongly aboot? I member"
BtownBlues@reddit
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or employing bitchy reddit snark
bannabananabanna@reddit
Im 100% agreeing, I especially love it when people decide to just "dont talk about it, its in the past" after calling me a conspiracy theory wackjob.
Lately its the teenage fad with edgelord pronoun goblins...
ThirdXavier@reddit
Still coping about the 2020 election lol. If after everything hes done in his 2nd term you still believe that nonsense youre actually a moron.
Ptar_Migan@reddit
If you honestly believe that Epstein wasn't fucking with everyone he could regardless of the political spectrum, I have a bridge to sell you.
Dude was a power broker, not a partisan. The child trafficking was a means to an end, and a personal 'hobby' for him. I'm sure if you paid him enough, or did him a big enough favor, he'd get a lot of powerful people to do whatever you wanted.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Where did I say that Epstein only fucked with Republicans? I don't like Democrats either. There's one political party and theyre all complicit.
Ptar_Migan@reddit
They're defintiely all complicit, but what is the average person supposed to do? Not participate in politics?
eatmynasty@reddit
I’m sorry do you not see what sub you’re on?
ThirdXavier@reddit
I think my original reply got shadowbanned so I'll phrase it in a leddit friendly way, I guarantee I used 4chan way before you did good pally pal frienderino :)
Unfortunately reddit will not allow me to say what you actually deserved to hear! But come to 4chan and post some shit like this and you'll surely hear it there.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Ive used 4chan longer than you little turd. I dont care about what any of you subhuman 2016 election tourists think.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Cake day is 2013 too, back when 4chan was usable, so you probably came over from reddit in the first place. The_Donald migrant? Your existence is quite unfortunate.
HeightAdvantage@reddit
The fine art of distinguishing retard posting from actual retardation is lost on you.
VonWolfhaus@reddit
Yeah the fact that Steve Bannon and Epstein used it to create an alt right pipeline to radicalize losers is legit insane.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Let me guess.
jawaismyhomeboy@reddit
You use Reddit dumbass
Toowiggly@reddit
I think you missed their point
Lastburn@reddit
Hundred percent sure they lack the self awareness to make the maxwell connection
jawaismyhomeboy@reddit
No I get it. It’s Maxwell but I’m sure you’ll deny that Epstein basically created /pol/
Lastburn@reddit
Nah I think its hilarious that Epstein created pol. Thats some cartoon level evil.
jawaismyhomeboy@reddit
Careful. You’ll cut yourself with all that edge
Lastburn@reddit
Nah fam, as a Eurofag its hilarious to watch America crash and burn from within. They didn't even need a dictator to fuck themselves over lmao
jawaismyhomeboy@reddit
That’s true. I’m surrounded by regards
sprakes_@reddit
There's no point to be made. It's painful watching this shit. "four" "channers" who are addicted to reddit and post here daily but make burner accounts every 2 months to fuel their delusion "i'm not a redditor, XDDDD" and it's 100% likely someone who calls out "redditor for X years" is a nonstop poster for last 12 years but keeps making burners so he can feel like an OG. Soy behavior
Ptar_Migan@reddit
That's Epstein's personal child trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell moderating those subs.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Try understanding the posts you respond to before exposing yourself as a retard.
DrBadGuy1073@reddit
Imma be real, you sounding like Alex Jones rn. MSNBC watcher?
ThatOneGuy444@reddit
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism
grumpy-lemon@reddit
Ah yes the most trustworthy and unbiased news source, buzzfeed.
ThatOneGuy444@reddit
That all you got?
grumpy-lemon@reddit
Apparently buzzfeed is all you got lmao
ThatOneGuy444@reddit
Buzzfeed is fine as a source. I bet you didn't even open the article lol
Ptar_Migan@reddit
BuzzFeed is absolute ass, unless you're looking for 14 Celebrity Glow Ups That Will Make You Shit Your Liver Out Then Eat It.
ThatOneGuy444@reddit
What About The Other Source I Posted Dipshit? I know they're known for their clickbait slop but they also do some serious investigative journalism. Dig deeper buddy.
tahini001@reddit
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-met-4chan-founder-just-200133465.html?guccounter=1
DrBadGuy1073@reddit
Ok Qanon, take your meds.
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
Didn't him and his wife have hands in both sides of the political spectrum on social media? The correct response isn't vote Dems, it's get off social media or stop giving a fuck.
HeyCarpy@reddit
Rapist pedo grifters memed their way straight into the White House while basement dwelling incel losers all virtually high-fived each other. I still can’t believe it happened.
Cultural_Pangolin149@reddit
Trump literally did nothing to discipline any of these feminists though. Need something more radical.
kryptoniankoffee@reddit
What do you mean? He literally passed EOs that dismantled corporate DEI policies in his first few days in office?
bannabananabanna@reddit
that was just to keep shit running, it wasnt punitive
they need to be locked in a room listening to neomarxist postmodenist dribble read out loud by smithers
Searril@reddit
*drivel
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Actually he spanked them at the 2018 White House correspondents' dinner.
LanceThunder@reddit
just trump sitting in the oval office every day instead of hillary or kamala was enough to endlessly torment them... it bothers me a lot so it must absolutely ruin them.
eatmynasty@reddit
That’s his next terms agenda
Afraid-Exit2125@reddit
Trump 2048 vs Obama
Disastrous_Step537@reddit
*MechaObama
OhMyGayatt@reddit
Two times
Theroux721@reddit
Let me tell you a couple of three things: I wanted 8 years of Trump, but I compromised: I settled for 12.
OhMyGayatt@reddit
Well you can't have twelve, the constitution forbids more than two terms for a sitting president.
jamie_lanister@reddit
Don't need an election if we enter world war 12. Good thing there's no chance of that happening
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
So far.
lobotominizer@reddit
"i just wanted some transparency in game journalism but oh well.... fuck you im voting trump"
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
Yeah if Hillary won then women would've calmed down and went back to the kitchen.
Magehunter_Skassi@reddit
Few copypasta originators have been more vindicated than the "they targeted gamers" guy
Public-Nectarine6607@reddit
its absolutely insane that a game like STS2 has mixed reviews. i dont even know what she did exactly, but i dont really notice anything woke in the game
8aller8ruh@reddit
Slay The Spire 2 is an incredible game, what are they even mad about?
collinilloc@reddit
A woman dared to have some opinions and gamers took that personally for that last decade.
LLMprophet@reddit
Your strawman attempt and failure actually perpetuates the justification people have of Anita's efforts.
Congrats on hurting the cause and casting doubt on legitimate women in tech.
collinilloc@reddit
Then what did she do? Do you have an example?
owPOW@reddit
Fine I’ll bite instead of ignore you like a rational person bc of that snarky edit.
Her involvement in the gaming community comes off as disingenuous rainbow capitalism which is exemplified by her patreon cash grab.
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ThexanR@reddit
They won’t be able to. All their opinions about this topic comes from other people who got it from other people who got it from people who dislike her.
collinilloc@reddit
Yeah it pretty self evident that these loser don’t actually know anything and are just outraged because Anita Sarkeesian is their sleeper agent trigger word.
Daddy_Parietal@reddit
Old news. Use google dumbass. Or Grok it so you can get your homework done before bedtime.
No_Account_Activity@reddit
That's basically it xD
Brief_Recognition977@reddit
qrd on this woman?
Sharky-Li@reddit
Everyone saying it's fine and it doesn't mean anything need to realize if her impact was so negligible why hire her at all especially given her reputation. Someone at the company chose to include her as a consultant which implies they value her opinions. They could have easily just not have hired her and saved themselves the trouble.
Arcane_Monkey@reddit
At the end of the day, the video game is good. I will play good games and not play bad games.
I really don’t give a shit beyond that.
Sharky-Li@reddit
Most people are like that, however there's definitely a pattern of games with overt ideological messaging performing worse than if they had not included it like with Veilguard, AC Shadows, Concord, etc.
Aside from Concord, all those did fine but could have done a way better and Concord wasn't even that bad gameplay wise but the characters were clearly designed to challenge conventional beauty standards as if someone was making a point.
ThirdXavier@reddit
She has a good reputation among people in the industry which is what matters to them not insanoids who have been clinging onto some ancient internet drama for 11 years now. In fact Gamergate only bolstered her reputation and made her more well known in the industry so more likely to get jobs, basically it has the opposite effect Gamergaters went for.
Ironically she was probably only hired for her reputation alone since Slay the Spire is probably the most apolitical game you could possibly make.
Sharky-Li@reddit
The issue lies in how "people in the industry" often operate within echo chambers, becoming increasingly detached from the general public. This same pattern emerges in Hollywood and politics, where "experts" make questionable decisions that seem glaringly obvious to those on the outside. You have to remember similar tone deafness is what allowed disasters like Concord, Highguard, and Marathon to occur.
The truth is the game would have succeeded without her anyway but I doubt her contributions affected the game that much either way. Even if the Gamergate crowd was just a vocal minority, it’s pretty clear the world has shifted in a political direction that encompasses the spirit of what they were protesting so it might not take much to dig up old bones.
Bernkastel96@reddit
You mean the "general public" who foam at the mouth whenever there is a "wahmen" in their game, who constantly moaning "get woke go broke" despite "woke" games selling gangbuster all the time, and at the end of the day, has no bearing on if the game is good or not. That "general public" ???
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
Any examples of these "woke" games that sold like gangbusters
ThirdXavier@reddit
Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Monster Hunter Wilds, and Elden Ring I have all heard called woke.
Before you scramble to claim theyre not all 4 games use "body type A and B" in their character creator rather than male/female, 3 out of the 4 have a racially diverse cast, and 2 out of the 4 have a rich selection of gay romance options for the player.
Baldur's Gate 3 especially inarguably encompasses everything "woke" and is one of the most critically acclaimed games ever on top of selling incredibly well.
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
So your example for Woke games that did well are 4 games where the woke elements are the only things widely criticized in them. I would argue that simply having progressive elements doesnt make a game woke, the same way slay the spire 2 isnt woke despite having Anita Sarkesian in the credits.
Its almost as if, if you create a good game and include progressive or even woke elements people enjoy it like it and if you explicitly market your game around being woke or progressive while being devoid of any substance people hate it. Compare Baldurs Gate 3 being a return to form for CRPGs that includes multiple customization and romance options, to something like Dragon Age Veilguard which markets itself as having top scars in customization and was poorly written with bad gameplay. For every successful game you name that did well despite having these elements, theres a game that was terrible and marketed itself around these same elements, so perhaps these chasing these woke elements are a bad idea, aka go woke go broke. Dragon Age Veilguard, Saints Row (2022), Dustborn, Concord, Assassins Creed Shadows, The Outer Worlds are all bad games that tried to market themselves as woke and did horribly.
By contrast Hogwarts Legacy has almost every woke element you referenced, but wasnt built or marketed around them and was in fact despised by the audience that would enjoy these elements and sold well.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Classic, moving the goalposts. Nothing youre talking about has anything to do with your original argument. I knew youd say something along the lines of "oh its only woke if its a bad game too". You asked for games with "woke" elements that did extremely and I provided them. The fact that both good and bad games exist with those elements does not support your argument and in fact supports mine as it shows theyre entirely unrelate to the quality of the game.
Hatred may be the least "woke" game ever created and it sucked. Same with Postal 3, and Duke Nukem Forever. Youre obsessing over something that doesnt matter at all.
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
I asked for woke games, not games with woke elements, theres a distinct difference, if I asked you for romance games you'd tell me Skyrim and im not going to accept that. The goal post is set, you just cant read.
My point is that games that heavily emphasize their woke elements dont sell well, because they're prioritizing the woke elements over the gameplay story etc etc, whereas the games you provided arent built around or marketed by those elements.
The fact that the Hatred, Postal 3 and Duke Nukem Forever are anti woke works to my argument, that you should prioritize the game itself rather than a weird political angle or stunts you can market around. Notice how I didnt call your examples bad just because they had woke elements, im not arguing against strictly woke games. Im arguing against marketing stunts and political ideology over game play, writing and design. If a game has a 10 minute cutscene about political hot button bullshit like immigration reform or transexual ideology thats not a game thats propoganda or a grift.
You can have a good game and include these talking points and themes, but you have to weave it into the story and gameplay both of which have to be able to stand on their own. However far too many games push these elements as selling points or are built around the idea of pushing these ideas, instead of being good. Im literally agreeing with you, but you're too politically brain rotted to see it.
ThirdXavier@reddit
0 of the games either of us brought up have a 10 minute cutscene on immigration reform or transexual ideology, you not only are defining woke games by requiring them to be bad so that you can refuse to admit youre wrong but now youre making up fanfiction to get mad about! You lost cope lol
Sharky-Li@reddit
I mean conservatives did win the popular vote so to some degree yes. The same can be seen worldwide so I think there is some truth to the idea that many people would prefer political agendas to be absent in media. Believe it or not the majority of people sit somewhere in the middle so if one side simply becomes too overbearing, the pendulum often swings to opposite side. I believe this is what we're seeing now as this tends to happen every few decades.
ThirdXavier@reddit
I was originally going to write a reply like this but I didnt even bother because the guy I'm replying to didnt mention wokeism so I wasnt sure if he was part of that crowd.
But I do find it funny how Gamergate truly failed at every conceivable level. Its industry standard for games to use "Body Type A and B" instead of Male/Female and industry standard for any game with romance options to include gay romances. I remember when the same crowd freaked out over every BioWare release because of it, now Larian Studios is filling their shoes doing fantastically well.
They lost and cant accept it so they just are miserable and blame every failure on "wokeism", a lot of people in that algorithm havent played any video games since Xbox 360 or are CoD or Counterstrike or War Thunder monogamers or some shit and just spend time getting mad over nothing.
Bernkastel96@reddit
Gamergate type still refuse to understand that there are plethora of reasons why a game fail being "woke" is like the smallest fucking part of it. Also for the crowd who foaming at the mouth about how they just want good game and dont care about gender identity politc, they are sure fast to decry StS 2, a game that absolutely has little to no political stuff, with good gameplay, run well, etc.... solely because there is a single woman name in the credit, which by the way none of them know about until grifter point it out on twitter.
ThirdXavier@reddit
I dont think Anita's involvement affected the game in any way, wasnt implying otherwise. Disasters like Concord, Highguars and Marathon happen on a much greater scale and someone as small as Anita could not possibly cause those kinds of flops.
My point was she was brought on for brownie points for investors, thats the only reason to hire people like that.
SKRyanrr@reddit
Somebody should deport her to Somalia
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
Guys I think this post is getting brigaded
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
Dont give up just yet gamers. Make them hear us
BuzzingHawk@reddit
What is it exactly about hiring these kind of consultants that know nothing about game dev except money laundering and cronyism?
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
it is the modern day equivalent of meeting the pope and asking his blessing for ur war. except now the pope is jewish, he requires to be paid, and he will backstab u anyway.
Totoques22@reddit
Video game consultant wouldn’t like Jews
Eggmasstree@reddit
"I hate this individual !"
"Cool, but she hasn't done wrong or good in the past 12 years"
"I hate her and I'm gonna ruin the reputation of the game I love !"
"You what ?"
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Hitler hasn't done anything good or bad in the past 81 years. So he's cool now right?
Eggmasstree@reddit
You're comparing censuring feet fetish with killing millions of people ? You got your priorities right.
Fivyrn@reddit
No he’s just saying your argument doesn’t make much sense.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
"It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible."
Eggmasstree@reddit
I can't understand things no one has fucking explained though, right ?
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Actually many people are able to intuit meanings that aren't explicitly explained, read between the lines, and extrapolate information from incomplete data using logic and common sense.
Eggmasstree@reddit
Ah yes, imagining facts, my favorite activity. Are you serious right now ?
Eggmasstree@reddit
I'm using an argument while he's using a comparaison, do you know the meaning of the words you're using ?
daemmonium@reddit
Wait a minute, 2026 and regards still believe Gamergate was about ethics in gaming journalism?!
Hahahahahahaha, jesus fucking christ guys, touch some grass.
keeleon@reddit
Im not gonna "review bomb" it without playing, but Sarkeesian being involved in anythi g is a pretty big red flag. If she did do anything its probably to the detriment, and if she didnt than why is she there? It definitely makes me less interested regardless.
fwaprat@reddit
It was literally the Chinese player base review bombing it but tbh it should still be aloud.
DominoUB@reddit
Chinese have been review bombing the game for weeks. Suddenly Anita haters get mad, see the scores and think they did this.
LordJanas@reddit
Basically this. The game is still Very Positive for English but dumbass grifters pretend the weekly Chinese outrage due to balance changes is actually related to aanita Sarkeesian so they cab pretend people care about their culture war bull shit.
Zeus78905@reddit
The English score isnt changing cause Steam hid the reviews, this didnt happen more than a decade ago it happened 2 months ago when the game released and there isnt a bigger grifter than Anita Sarkeesian
LordJanas@reddit
Anyone can re-enable the reviews steam has filtered out for being off-topic and the score hardly changes. It's not some big conspiracy.
Zeus78905@reddit
Steam stopped the review bombing while it was beginning
sunder_and_flame@reddit
The steamdb reviews chart suggests otherwise. The cn reviews were over a week ago, this is a different set.
Lastburn@reddit
Steam are not allowed to conduct business in China though, so their steam population is miniscule
LordSturm777@reddit
Yeah, it's only 20% of the entire Steam population, with a special client made just for them. Oh, wait...
DominoUB@reddit
https://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/
NissinSeafoodCup@reddit
Notice how he reply to everyone except you. Lmao.
NissinSeafoodCup@reddit
70% of Black Myth Wukong sale came from Mainland Chinese, if their population is minuscule on steam then it wouldn’t be the top selling game on steam multiple months in a row.
Lastburn@reddit
You just made that up, only 32% of Wukong sales are using simplified chinese
NissinSeafoodCup@reddit
One of the devs said it in official forum.
“Xuan: What percentage of Black Myth: Wukong’s player base is from overseas? How do you view the visual representation of Eastern culture in a digital context?
Yang: Data indicated that overseas players accounted for about 30%. In fact, this percentage exceeded our expectations and has been well-received by many international players. Even though they lack cultural familiarity or a sense of connection to the game—and may not even understand many of the settings, character designs, stories, or performance elements—why are they still able to grasp the core message the game aims to convey, and even give it such high praise?”
Here’s the full article in chinese: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/9SgwrkwYqKYbNJdy5pHHBg
SerJoseph@reddit
Are you in special needs? 50% of all sts2 reviews are in chinese, more, even. They are a hige influence in steam. Learn to not speak when you know nothing about a topic
Lastburn@reddit
Show me steam sales attributed to China then , I dare you
SerJoseph@reddit
Look it up yourself you lazy, pretentious, midwit. The devs have said that china made slay 1 popular before english speakers picked it up, they like 2 as much as us if not more they care a lot about them, despite their toxic culture in the gaming space. Go ahead and try to convince anyone that any chinese speaking community will not be 90% mainlanders, as if they didnt outnumber all other chinese speaking countries combined by 10x
ThirdXavier@reddit
This isnt even remotely true lol. The amount of Chinese bypassing the great firewall probably puts China in top 5 countries of steam users. People there know how to use VPNs. Their government doesnt really give a shit as long as they publicly behave loyally to the CCP.
Lastburn@reddit
Yes but they're entered as Steam Worldwide not Steam China
lobotominizer@reddit
my negative review stays..
NegativeVega@reddit
An ultra casual turn based game pandering to women and trans folk? What's the problem here?
UntBag@reddit
Explicit_Tech@reddit
Anita was never a gamer.
She also used to run a pyramid scheme with her ex. She's always been a grifter.
KANNEDBREAD@reddit
What's Gamer gate?
Theroux721@reddit
Darude sandstorm
Owlsthirdeye@reddit
My personal Vietnam.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
The Brandenburg Gate in Berlin between the years of 1933 and 1945.
GameMask@reddit
Wheres that Epstein image when I need it.
TheDestroyer630@reddit
Even the subreddit is a lost case
TheChosenMuck@reddit
for weeks they are getting review bombed by chinese because of some gameplay issue.
Now they changed it to, its getting review bombed because of anita, also completly ignoring majority are still from mostly chinese players ?
did i understand this correctly?
Hrive@reddit
Game's amazing, nobody cares
-Ein@reddit
"gaming journalists" better start learning to code
MurshaqBack@reddit
Gamergate is so fucking cringe, holy shit, you cringelords are still on that shit?
notapencil@reddit
Feels good knowing that right wing manchilds won't be able to enjoy this game. Good riddance lmao.
Afraid-Exit2125@reddit
Why this bimbo in my vidya?
ZMowlcher@reddit
Jfc who cares
Twee_Licker@reddit
Go away Anita.
MericanMeal@reddit
Quick someone make the "never thought I'd die fighting side by side" meme between Chinese and MRA or whatever the Anita haters are called
vegantealover@reddit
Slay the spire 2 is literally the same game, it should've been just a dlc.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Luckily for me I'm far too employed for this to bother me.
UndeadJewedditor@reddit
SNCA enthusiasts be like
Street_Exercise_4844@reddit
Slay was such an interesting game it wanted to be something else even if it never quite promised what it wanted to be and agreed to inspire those who bought then maybe not
Y_U_SO_MEME@reddit
It insists upon itself
BeauShowTV@reddit
It's so annoying when people review bomb over politics. Good on steam for putting a stop to it.
Vitality_VZ@reddit
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Dogshit article too lol