The Grand Tour-Ish Has 2 appearances now from a certain somebody now

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GreatAd7520@reddit

A fitting cameo and a small nod to the great car journalist that he is. Clearly has maintained an endearing friendship with Clarkson since his days on old Top Gear.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Tiff Needel the man who taught clarkson how to drive round corners and not crash and used to present classic original pre chm top gear

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BillWilberforce@reddit

Then when Old Top Gear got canceled he Quentin and VBH moved to channel 5 and did 5th Gear.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

One of few drivers who scares Jeremy when driving

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ScoffingYayap@reddit

AH! Clearly I can't pick out Tiff from a crowd. Thanks!

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PoolRamen@reddit

Holy shit I didn't recognise him at first, he seems to have followed May into the cliff dive into oldmanhood

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

He is 74.... he was born in 1951 he's older then jezza by 9 years

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PoolRamen@reddit

WHAAAT?

OK in that case I take everything back. I thought he was younger than Clarkson.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Noo, tiff is Jeremy's mentor he's definitely older

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FriskyDingoOMG@reddit

And has THE best British accent and voice…in the World.

-Jeremy Clarkson…probably.

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Bsquared02@reddit

Absolutely deserved cameo, Vicki should be there too as she, Tiff, and Clarkson were what made Old Top Gear classic

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BillWilberforce@reddit

Don't forget Quentin and even James. Although James joined after Jeremy had quit. And of course when Jeremy quit, the ratings dived and it got canceled.

Tiff must be regretting the fact that he never jumped ship to New Top Gear.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

There was no place for tiff on new chm top gear it was a complete new format and he picked people he'd banter with, although tiff was good banter. Tiff would upstage him likely with driving lol

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Jeremy has always credited Tiff as being the only racing car driver who can talk. Which is why The Stig was silent. He also credits him as being the person who taught Jeremy how to go fast around corners without crashing.

I think it could have been launched as Clarkson, Hammond and Needell. As May didn't want to do Series 1 and don't forget that Hammond had applied to be a presenter on old Top Gear 3 times and on Fifth Gear but hadn't gotten the job.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Yesbbut new top gear wasn't going to be anything like old top gear, I don't think tiff would have stayed very long and of we have had tiff the jokes tomfoolery and such may have never happened and killed the show

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BillWilberforce@reddit

Tiff is a funny guy, who was at Top Gear 1987-2001, Fifth Gear 2002-2019 and LoveCars which is currently on Amazon Prime. He also did an episode of Top Gear in order to train Danny Boyle for OSIARPC, after Ben Collins was revealed to be The Stig.

He's not a quitter and has only been "fired" once and that was after 17 years. Which for a TV presenter is amazing. That's 39 years as a car TV presenter across 3 different "outlets". I don't think he would have qimuit or been fired. I'm just surprised that Fifth Gear didn't do more to emulate new Top Gear.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Yes but Jeremy Richard and may worked because each one could be paired with the other it would.likely have been clarkson and tiff vs just hammond

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BillWilberforce@reddit

I think Tiff and Jeremy would have had their disagreements. Jeremy deliberately chose May for Top Gear because they'd both been to a car launch in Spain or Morocco and May disagreed with virtually everything Jeremy said.

With old Top Gear one of the problems was that the hosts never interacted with each other, outside of Top Gear Live. Jeremy would do a solo piece, there would be a link and then over to Tiff/Vicky/Quentin for an other solo piece.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

There was bits with all the presenters, like the credits to the top gear 21 years has Jeremy shouting at tiffs crazy driving

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Also hammond nearly got fired by bbc between s1-s2 clarkson had to fight to keep him, apparently they wanted a woman or something

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jackrawls58@reddit

They couldn’t get Tiff on the top gear reboot

Apparently they were only allowed to retain Jeremy from the former lineup of top gear pre 2002

Source Andy Wilman in an interview on High Performance podcast

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

I doubt jezza wanted tiff anyway cause tiff would likely upstage him woth talent as much as i love jezza

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Working-Restaurant46@reddit

he actually talked about this in a yt video this one, it seems like he is a bit unsatisfied with how the wider audience forgot his era of the show and only focuses on the trio which i honestly cant blame him for it as i have been watchihng 5th gear on yt and he would have been a great addition to TG if the show had a "squad"

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

He should blame the bbc for making his era so inaccessible, they've never repeated the orginal era expect the first ep for the anniversary, all we have is vhs copies and such people have digitised

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Ryanliverpool96@reddit

If Tiff had moved to the New Top Gear then we wouldn’t have ever gotten the trio though.

Unless he replaced the Stig.

But Tiff would have been great as the racing driver for the Grand Tour.

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canttthink0fausrname@reddit

he did make a cameo as “James” in the V8 Ariel Atom review where he races against a superbike

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Well he says in ep 1 about a man who taught him to drive but he's probably long gone, and it pans to show tiff in the background, as shown in the 1st pic

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Mathfanforpresident@reddit

What episode is this from?

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

The grand-ish tour, it's a clip show with new content set in a fake retirement home of the 3 talking , there's 1 more ep next Saturday

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Fearless_Cover_8737@reddit

Is it for the anticipation of the new Grand Tour or just something else? I heard about this before but it was old outtakes of certain prior episodes if i remember correctly.

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porks2345@reddit

Clearly it’s a bridge to keep the name popping up on the Amazon prime home page until the new guys debut. Funny and engaging enough. Some of the visual gags are pretty funny.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

No idea who planned it I don't think Richard porter did it

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porks2345@reddit

Yeah. Some of the jokes were a little too obvious. It’s funny to have Tiff way in the background, a bit blurry and almost out of frame, reading a book. It’s less so to mention him by name. It’s not funny at all to take a closer in shot of clearly him reading his own book. That’s an Amazon exec note saying he doesn’t get who the guy in back is.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

I did like tiff replacing james at the end of ep 2 though

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PoolRamen@reddit

Must be. I don't want to rewatch old stuff so I turned off after the first "bit" of this.

Wouldn't it be funny it they really had to do it for the small print lol

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

The in-between "studio" bits are entertaining

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Errr I dunno tbh they did 1 ep with just hammond and may and it was unpopular so they've done 3 with all 3, maybe the final ep will mention the new trio

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Fearless_Cover_8737@reddit

Interesting. Will take a look at it later today as I've been out of loop since the new presenters announcement.

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Puzzleheaded-Ad-4883@reddit

Love to see William Woollard with one foot up on a chair arm.

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Caracalla73@reddit

Aw man you did Quentin bad there.

He was awesome on old Top Gear.

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Professional-Can3598@reddit

RiP Quentin, you were great.

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bodinator1@reddit

And lots of nods to many previous presenters of the original top gear, William woollard, Chris goffey, Quentin willson ,Michelle Newman and Steve berry.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Is there? What we missing? What do you see

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bodinator1@reddit

They were scattered around in the activities menu of the old folks home.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Do you know what ep? Gotta go back and find it

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bodinator1@reddit

Episode 3 right at the beginning is first appearance

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Ah I havent watched ep 3 yet

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Chrunchyhobo@reddit

He's not going to set fire to the prop storage again is he?

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

That was likely Jason potato

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Chrunchyhobo@reddit

Baked potato now.

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Riqitch@reddit

Tiff Needell what a legend

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SirLostit@reddit

Love the fact he’s reading a book called ‘Tiff’

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BillWilberforce@reddit

Thank you, I didn't recognise him.

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LingonberryAlert8773@reddit

r/crt

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PewPewMcShootyBoi@reddit

Am I the only one who thought that was Jerry Jones at first glance?

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Wonderful_Syllabub85@reddit

Tiff. He's reading his own autobiography which is actually foreworded by Clarkson

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Working-Restaurant46@reddit

put this old unassuming man in anything with 4 wheels and an engine and he will drift it in no time

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Zippyversion1@reddit

"Cheat Mode Enabled" https://youtu.be/F8ZK7J8MQTY?si=CrKmhzQErdlwFOX7

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PineConeTracks@reddit

Two great drivers and some fat bloke.

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Latetzki@reddit

Are they just showing episodes we have already seen?

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

It's a clip show pretty much

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ztunelover@reddit

Is this on youtube or prime? I want to watch

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

Prime but they've been uploading some clips to YouTube

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tonyaustin6@reddit

This looks like it was filmed at an assisted living facility

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SharkSmiles1@reddit

I love that they have a Pekingese figurine on the windowsill. I’ve been looking for one of those. Lol. It looks like my peke.

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AndrewCoja@reddit

In the last special, they joked about having to live in the same care home.

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JimmiCottam@reddit

I think that's intentional

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Optimaximal@reddit

That's the joke

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BillWilberforce@reddit

Tiff's still got hair!

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

He's been on Richard hammonds drivetribe youtube channel

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JelenaBrela@reddit

Please tell me this is just to hold us over for the new TGT. Please tell me that as soon as this, hopefully short, series is done, the new hosts begins.

Not that I mind more of the OG 3.

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williamg209@reddit (OP)

They've not announced when the new trio starts but I imagine this is to hold us over, clarksons farms next series is June or July so I imagine they won't show it during that time

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kh250b1@reddit

The guy that tapped Mansell into a wall at the BTTC shootout in the 90s