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Spitfire1011@reddit

There’s nothing nefarious about accessing Netradyne thru your phone…the Netradyne camera itself is nefarious but accessing Netradyne on your phone is only to see what it’s reporting on you.

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If it's a company phone it isnt am issue at all, that's what it's for. I suspect that's the case here. Fuck the CEO and his poodle if he thinks i'm putting anything company related on my personal cell though.

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spyder7723@reddit

Byod has been the standard in the work force for two decades now. Sure they can't force you to put software in your device, but it snapshot can be required as a term of employment.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

For low level workforces, yes. For any self respectable job, no. Reputable trucking companies issue tablets for you to control your workflow, that's what i use.

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spyder7723@reddit

Senior level managers at Lockheed Martin are low level workforce?

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

At that pricepoint a phone is comped into your pay by a longshot. Last i checked, a good bit of their communications and shit were actively monitored as well, are you saying every company should have that ability?

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spyder7723@reddit

I'm saying that byod is common in the workforce regardless of industry. Has been for two decades

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egivan6903@reddit

If it’s the one my company uses just wear shades like sun glasses and it doesn’t log anything.. besides that as long as your head doesn’t tilt downward your good you can still text, watch movies, etc…

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Victorious1MOB@reddit

I almost agree with you. But even with sunglasses the camera picks up the cellphone. 🙋🏾‍♂️ personally know bc it's got me.

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Ilovetramplinglol@reddit

They can see your P0rn lol

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MonkeyDxn@reddit

Companies are allowed to force you to pit anything on your personal phone

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AnxiousNax@reddit

We work for the same company. I recognize the message

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zhelfrich@reddit

Assuming you already have the camera in your truck? Driver I app is just for you to track your score for your bonus presumably. I say this as a company driver who uses the driver I app. The app itself doesn’t do anything.

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Appropriate-Let-193@reddit

I'm so glad I own my own truck and I don't have to deal with people monitoring and commenting on my every move...I could never go back to being a company driver again.

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DearKick@reddit

I like all the tpb references

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mylifeishardd@reddit

Ive never really had to much of an issue with my camera except the other day when I got my new truck, it had fallen on the dash and generated 27 violations, hard turn, high-G, etc most were labeled severe, so i just had to let my company know it was because it fell, other than that, it’s fine every now and then I get a moderate speeding violation usually when I’m in California for doing 60+ the only real “violation”

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vfittipaldi@reddit

What is that?

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PoopyStinkbutts@reddit

AI driving software that records violations both inside and outside the cab of your truck. It snips a video of the violation as well. My company has been using it for about two years now but it can be pretty stupid sometimes. I get a lot of "sleepy driver" notifications for one guy because he observes "aim high in steering", which is Smith Systems training, and doesn't wear sunglasses. So whenever he has to monitor his speed because it constantly nags him for it, it thinks he's getting sleepy by glancing down at his dash.

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vfittipaldi@reddit

Yeah i was afraid that its something like this. Basically all of these things are designed to put 100% of the blame on the driver. All of these little violations get added up in a file to be used against the driver in the future.

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PoopyStinkbutts@reddit

Actually, at least with my company, it doesn't. The only thing that goes on file is what is transferred over to a write up or incident report, which generally involves careless driving and/or an accident at which the driver is involved with. The software is pretty intensive on company servers because it records *a lot* of footage. My archive goes up 90 days for anything that's a non-coachable event, and even the coachable stuff goes away with improvement. And writeup stuff only sticks 365 days. Only accidents stay on permanently, for obvious reasons. Not excusing it, I'm actually not happy about it (believe it or not).

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dontdoxmebro2@reddit

Ai driver monitor

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Atypical_Mammal@reddit

If this shit keeps going, there will be so many owner operators

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kd8qdz@reddit

not with these fuel prices.

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IndexFingerTypist@reddit

How will they automatically install on driver phones? Im

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mute_salamander@reddit

Company managed cell phones, most likely. In this case, the company has full control of the contents on said cell phone and can add and remove apps at any time.

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angrydeuce@reddit

This is pretty much why we dont even fuck with any of it and everyone gets a company phone. Anyone that complains about having to carry two phones, no problem, the only phone youre *required* to have during work hours is your work phone, which is one phone. Plus its better for them, too. No personal shit on the work phone, no work shit on the personal phone. Easy peasy.

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FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit

I'm *required* to have my personal phone for health reasons. 2 phones are no big deal though, as long as the company understands that i will not have my work phone on my person if i am not on duty. Any job that prevents you from accessing your personal phone in a safe manner is a shady fucking job for sure.

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angrydeuce@reddit

Sure! I'm just saying, a lot of people try to use the "two phones are too hard" as an excuse to not carry a work phone, and that's what we tell them. We don't give a shit if they carry their personal phone too, of course, just that when they're on the clock, they better have the work phone on them lol

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DumatRising@reddit

Yeah it's really not hard. I've had a work phone and a personal phone for ages just cause it's good to keep everything separated and it's very convenient to have phone number for friends and family that doesn't get bombarded by spam calls and funnel all that into my work phone that I can just turn off without worrying about someone I care about trying to contact me. They both fit in my pocket and don't take much space in the cab.

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RKGamesReddit@reddit

Work phone stays with my truck, I ain't hauling it home and back when I don't have a home need for it.

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angrydeuce@reddit

Totally valid! Lord knows, if I aint on the clock, work phone is sitting on the charger and I ain't look at it lol

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coldafsteel@reddit

Mobile Device Management (MDM) tools. Most of the time it's used on company owned hardware. But some companies do allow BOY devise to be added and managed. Not sure why anyone would do that, but some do.

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beastybrotha@reddit

holy crap some drivers are cry babies - just say to provide a company phone then? yall are so soft i swear

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ApollyonFE@reddit

That's what this industry has become. Remember the pandemic? Seeing grown ass men cry like bitches because the shipper/receiver required face coverings was nothing short of embarrassing

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Lane8323@reddit

Nah man, freedom and stuff.

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AroundGoesThe18@reddit

Cant pay me enough to put up with that bullshit. Id bail.

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Niko120@reddit

“I don’t own a cell phone, you can reach me on my home phone if needed” Is your reply

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Crazyscorpion77@reddit

Almost like one of my coworkers he wont answer a email or text message even if its important

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angrydeuce@reddit

I mean, people that tried that where I worked just got a company provided cell phone, and if they still refused to use it...got fired. So I guess theres a choice to be made there.

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pakman82@reddit

If you won't accept a tool needed to do the job , and they say it's a required tool.. they hold all the keys... Haha. No pun intended.

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TwoToadsKick@reddit

Perfect you got a work phone

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NFLTG_71@reddit

What is it?

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PoopyStinkbutts@reddit

Copy and paste from another comment for ya: AI driving software that records violations both inside and outside the cab of your truck. It snips a video of the violation as well. My company has been using it for about two years now but it can be pretty stupid sometimes. I get a lot of "sleepy driver" notifications for one guy because he observes "aim high in steering", which is Smith Systems training, and doesn't wear sunglasses. So whenever he has to monitor his speed because it constantly nags him for it, it thinks he's getting sleepy by glancing down at his dash.

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dontdoxmebro2@reddit

Taming stoned cougars sounds like fun! 😏

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fmccloud@reddit

Yeah, but you won’t.

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dadbodsupreme@reddit

I'm with OP. It's funny how quickly my old boss recanted on the "every truck gets a driver facing camera" thing when every driver said we'd leave the moment he putnthem in. Sometimes, it's good to work for a small company.

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bogey9651@reddit

I only read strip club, moonshine and pot field

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Royal-Application708@reddit

I don’t blame you dude, when the bullshit gets too much, you gotta get out

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qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit

Those Netradyne cameras aren't bad. They aren't just for disciplinary, they are also to help you be a better driver by giving you feedback on your driving. The higher your driver score at the end of the year, the bigger your bonus is at our company. I bait people into cutting me off all day long just so I can get an "Increased following distance by decreasing speed" driver star.

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CapitanPino@reddit

Better driver but you bait people to cut you off? What the fuck... turning real life driving into a point system game is diabolical and dystopian. You literally in the same comment said "helps make you a better driver" to "i bait people to cut me off so I get a shiny driver star" What are you a toddler? Fuck off.

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echo78@reddit

“better driver” like telling you to “slow down” when you’re going 68 in a 70 LMAO They are garbage.

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qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit

I have never had that happen.

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echo78@reddit

Happens all the time to me. I just ignore it, it doesn't impact a safety score. Its obnoxious as fuck and companies that use it are scamming themselves.

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The-1@reddit

They tried this with me, I just didn't use it

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Spitfire1011@reddit

If you have a company app on your phone, you can access the Netradyne app thru the company app…nothing to install.

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kickingndoors@reddit

i had the stuff on my phone with k&b i think there's was more private though

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Microshlongg@reddit

Driver cell phones is wild. Watch the walk to back once drivers start leaving

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WarmScientist5297@reddit

I wanna hear the discussion in the boardroom among the HR coordinator and the HRVP when they reached the tipping point after let’s say half a dozen guys quit? I want to hear that conversation.

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Specialist-Box-9711@reddit

They can't auto install onto your personal phone unless you willingly (and stupidly) allowed them to install an MDM profile onto your phone. Realistically, this means drivers using phones provided by the carrier.

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Mydogfartsconstantly@reddit

Where they gonna go? How many companies are left that dont have cameras? If it isnt netradyne its motive. If it isnt motive its omnitracs. But netradyne is the nectar of the devil as far as ai cameras go.

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Microshlongg@reddit

It’s the installing on phone part.

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NostradamusJones@reddit

Very important detail. Thanks.

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Mydogfartsconstantly@reddit

If its a company phone they already save your text messages to icloud. If you have a company phone “yes sir” “understood ma’am” etc. nothing else. Amazon used to use netradyne and an app from FICO that tracks your driving score similar to a credit score. Its only a matter of time.

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lord_nuker@reddit

My company doesn’t have a camera, or a tracker. But I don’t work in North America either

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WallaWallaby011@reddit

They probably meant company provided cell phones for drivers who don't already own a touch screen phone.

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