California peach growers crop destruction
Posted by pathf1nder00@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 102 comments
Guess never really thought about intentional food source destruction en masse, because of contracts and agreements. So, with a large reduction in peach tree destruction because of Del Monte bancruptcy, I would suspect this to increase prices of peaches, but I am sure this happens more than I realized, and is example that not every shortage is environmental or collapse, but of our own making.
AmbienWalrus69@reddit
"And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage."
2BlueZebras@reddit
Damn, I didn't read this in high school. Should I pick it up?
Fur_Nurdle_on67@reddit
Yeah, before they ban that, too
Zealousideal-Ice-985@reddit
Absolutely, much more powerful as an adult.
WhenSummerIsGone@reddit
It's a heavy book. Pure poetry. Definitely worth it.
AntelopeElectronic12@reddit
No. It is not a happy ending.
AmbienWalrus69@reddit
It's only gotten more relevant, somehow.
Loud_Flatworm_4146@reddit
Definitely.
jbjhill@reddit
Yes. Yes you should.
2quickdraw@reddit
I'm reading it again right now.
CammiOh@reddit
Here are the grapes
and here is the wrath!
Fit-Lion-773@reddit
I grow peaches, my issues are lack of rain.
Blueporch@reddit
Come to Northeast Ohio. We have all the rain. Plus a big lake. Plus more rain.
greendildouptheass@reddit
anyone from Georgia?
Blueporch@reddit
I think the Georgia peach season should start soon. We have California yellow peaches in the grocery store right now for $3.49/Lb.
FuzzzyRam@reddit
and racists!
PrepperIntel-ModTeam@reddit
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Blueporch@reddit
It’s a mix. Depends on the area.
pathf1nder00@reddit (OP)
While I am not a farmer, I have an acreage and am losing 8-10 old growth oaks per year because of drought. I have a back fusion and have to have these removed and it's costing $7000/year. I am going to bulldoze my land this winter. I can't afford the trees.
tangerinewater@reddit
Is the county forcing you to remove them? Otherwise, nature does a fine job of turning dead trees into mulch, and before that... becoming a snag to attract birds of prey.
2quickdraw@reddit
I only have four old oaks but we adore them, they are up to 200 years old. We water the drip line area maybe four or five times a year now, using great care not to do more than necessary to compensate.
thrombolytic@reddit
I’m in the PNW and have had to cut down 5 old growth Doug Firs on my property in the last couple of years due to drought.
Trek716@reddit
We had a bad frost a couple weeks back that bit our peaches and apples worse than many in this area have ever seen.
Leftoverofferings@reddit
You must be in Palisade.
tangerinewater@reddit
I'm partially shading my peach tree, dripline-trench watering, and using direct application of compost just outside the dripline, a foot down. It's working well.
PMmeIamlonley@reddit
Mine are so tint compared to last year at this time. All the irrigation in the world can't replace spring rains that haven't come.
Objective-Rip3008@reddit
This is not new behavior, this in famously happened during the great depression. This is from the classic grapes of wrath "The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage"
Appropriate_Guess881@reddit
Would love to see excess produce donated to food banks or something. Below is a the results of a "bumper crop" of apples. They dumped them in the middle of nowhere. It's so wasteful, even if they didn't want to flood the market and affect prices, they could've sold them to a composting company or to pig farmers or something.
bubblingbooks@reddit
This honestly makes me cry. There are people starving within 1 mile of me. There are children at my child’s school who can’t afford food at home and only eat at school.
greendildouptheass@reddit
you should know that \~47M ppl in the US go hungry everyday, that includes 14M children, in the richest country in the world this is really ironic to say the least.
iwantmy-2dollars@reddit
Teacher too now, if you caught that thread.
ionowl@reddit
Meanwhile in eastern Washington you can’t buy apples from most of the local orchardists because there is an apple syndicate that takes the local crops away and all that’s available to the locals are the mealy shit apples from last year.
DontRememberOldPass@reddit
There are no "local orchardists" in Eastern Washington anymore. All the orchards are owned by or "affiliated" with one of the big 5 growers.
I have 10 acres up there that sits in the middle of a ~500 acre block and they literally pay me to not grow apples so that it doesn't fuck with their organic rating.
they-walk-among-us@reddit
Who are the big 5?
DontRememberOldPass@reddit
CMI, New Columbia, Zerkle/Rainier, FirstFruits, and probably Borton or Foreman
ionowl@reddit
In my neck of the woods, there are a few orchards that are owned and operated by people who live the community and aren’t part of the syndicate / big 5 / whatever we want to call it.
It’s nice to get fresh apples from them in the fall but everyone is after them so they go quick.
fruderduck@reddit
That should be illegal. Just another form of monopoly and price fixing. Two lawsuits are underway against chicken and beef. Maybe the apple market should be next.
they-walk-among-us@reddit
There were too many to do that. Nobody could pay transportation when they lost their crop. I
TastyPopcornTosser@reddit
I grow a lot of fruit and vegetables.
My farm has never made money. I can’t afford to pay labor to pick produce to donate it. The few times I’ve tried? “We don’t want tomatoes. We’ve got too many.”
As for allowing gleaners to come? A liability nightmare.
It’s terrible. I hate food waste.
Margotkitty@reddit
Oh. My. God. This is a fucking crime. People are starving and America chooses to let its food rot because their god Money demands it.
Holy shit. A reckoning is coming.
2quickdraw@reddit
This is horrendous! Here we fucking go AGAIN!
greendildouptheass@reddit
This happened mostly recently with dairy, during Covid. Funny how people forget so quickly.
UnusualLavishness324@reddit
Such a fucking powerful quote.
WhenSummerIsGone@reddit
The entire book is filled with writrng like this. I have to read it slowly, been trying for months now. It's depressing too.
vodeodeo55@reddit
Keep going. It's worth it.
RagnarStonefist@reddit
one of my favorites and what I immediately thought of
Fabulous_Celery_1817@reddit
This is depressing. And the enforcers and guards are what uphold the system. Even today.
Zealousideal-Ice-985@reddit
💯
throwawayyyy980@reddit
"The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit – and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country."
-John Steinbeck, grapes of wrath
Also written about the great depression. Great book.
Also thats a fantastic quote, brother.
CryptographerLow6772@reddit
Capitalism is a real problem.
PaulieHehehe@reddit
What are you, a godless communist?
/s
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
Some days
CryptographerLow6772@reddit
Basically.
Loud_Flatworm_4146@reddit
I think I need to read that book again.
IntoTheCommonestAsh@reddit
Second time I come across this quote today. Could be a coincidence, could be the wrath.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
Certainly now more than ever. Allowing the rot to fester and spread has lead us to where we find ourselves now
Electronic-Day5907@reddit
These peaches are not the kind you can buy fresh in the store. They are specifically used for canning. I frankly can't even remember the last time I ate canned peaches and I bet a lot of other people can't either.
pandorasotherbox@reddit
more people would if the cost for one can weren't so high.
At HyVee in Omaha, a can of peaches is $2.29 for the cheap ones.
Serious_Yard4262@reddit
I know this is a few days old, but canned peaches is one of the cheapest produce foods to buy with WIC. The WIC program has very tight guidelines with what you can buy, and it's generally a set amount of product vs actual dollar amount besides the roughly $25/child you get for produce. Canned peaches help keep children in poverty fed, and those prices rising is going to affect them a lot
Practical-book-3911@reddit
So many children eat them every day in school in the US. Personal household maybe a week ago? Also made a peach cake last month with them.
splat-y-chila@reddit
I make canned spiced peaches every year. I always run out way too soon.
MsSpentMiddleAge@reddit
We have them with cottage cheese weekly. Yum.
Archaeoethicist@reddit
Peaches come from a can.
Straight_Flan1347@reddit
They were put there by a man
In a bankrupt factory downtown
PassTheKY@reddit
Tuesday. Next question.
greendildouptheass@reddit
Dairy farmers were dumping milk during covid period if anyone remembers
DarlasServant@reddit
Colorado peaches are the best. They too have seen enough of the climate changes.
fruderduck@reddit
GA peaches would whip the fuzz off your CO peaches.
Rods-from-God@reddit
Look, I lived in GA for damn near 2 decades and moved to CO and I thought the same thing at first… until I tried a Palisade peach.
Then I went back and bought a carton and froze em so I could have these peaches in the off season, which is something I’ve never done with a Georgia peach.
I’m sorry.
WestFaithlessness412@reddit
The BEST!!!
hanumanCT@reddit
Just saw an article abotu the same thing happening to Palisade this year and the crop is in terrible shape.
tangerinewater@reddit
I'm in the desert where everyone assumes nothing grows, but I compost everything in closed systems that don't attract insects or rodents. I use this compost to grow fruit trees and innoculate composting toilets. I make raised beds out of waste materials to grow vegetables. I grow year round because I shade and protect from wind. I use gray water to feed native, non food producing trees to reduce temps and create microclimates. Even dog poo is composted separately to fertilize native trees. I live off-grid, without trash, power, or water services. All things are recycled/repurposed on-site, and all waste is viewed as a resource. These are the ways of the future. We can't keep accumulating mounds of trash and burying it in someone else's backyard or shipping it to another country, and thinning their polluting won't become our pollution. We live in a closed system, with limited resources. I am practicing the art of... not just surviving, but thriving in these conditions.
MischiefofRats@reddit
My understanding from another comment I read is that there are two general types of peaches, one where it's easy to get the pit out (consumer whole fruit fresh peaches) and one called clingstone, where it's very hard to get the pit out. Clingstone peaches are canning peaches typically, but with this bankruptcy there are no clingstone canneries with the capacity to take the output of these orchards, and consumers don't really like the clingstone peaches, so there's not really the consumer demand available to make keeping these orchards viable. It takes water and manhours to keep these orchards running, healthy, and productive. Culling the trees is a production business decision.
Correct-Avocado5426@reddit
Here on the East Coast they're saying all of the crops are a loss because of the weather. I saw a farmer on the news saying it's likely there will be no fresh peaches in New Jersey this year.
fruderduck@reddit
I’m probably the only one tired of “imported” peaches. IMO, GA peaches are vastly superior. It’s gotten difficult to find them with peaches from elsewhere in the country undercutting them.
SeaIslandFarmersMkt@reddit
*Ahem* South Carolina peaches are the best peaches (we also row more than GA)! 😉
fruderduck@reddit
We need a peach throw down!
SeaIslandFarmersMkt@reddit
Bring it on 😉. We agree on peach quality - you should end up with peach juice on your chin when eating a good peach 😄!. Here's to southeast peaches!
fruderduck@reddit
Yes!
Dear-Purpose6129@reddit
What in the wastefull hell?!
blurfgh@reddit
The largest buyer of peaches went under. No one is stepping in to buy peaches anymore. They want to use the land now for not-peaches.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
Well that is just peachy
scottdeeby@reddit
I think it's the pits
dittybopper_05H@reddit
And they've got the fuzz watching to keep the poors away.
mkinstl1@reddit
There’s a whole book called The Grapes of Wrath that speaks on this.
pathf1nder00@reddit (OP)
I don't get the correlation, and you are not the first person to say there was. How so?
mkinstl1@reddit
The grapes are used as a metaphor for the growing anger of the agricultural class brought in to work for nothing and die. There are middle chapters in the book describing the plight of these people. One of these chapters goes into how the farm owners can’t turn a profit on the crops, so instead of letting the dying poor eat it, they would rather have the crops burnt/spoiled/buried/etc to keep the prices up for others.
Then the grapes of wrath grow, “getting ready for the vintage”.
pathf1nder00@reddit (OP)
Oh got it. I guess I didn't phrase my post very well. I was just trying to point out business decisions also impact food supply not just environmental or catastrophic events (civil, wars). Thanks for reply!
mkinstl1@reddit
Yep, they sure do!
WWWeirdGuy@reddit
But are the trees and/or food used to make new fertilizer or for some other use case? In that case it's not as bad. It's worse when food destruction happens close to population centers, as distribution has already happened. In outlying areas distribution is has still not happened in that sense there is still some value add needed. Fertilizer might me more valuable than people think, especially if it's non-contaminated and during a fertilizer shortage, which we are in for.
Excellent_Set_232@reddit
Someone in another thread mentioned the trees become hotbeds of disease when the trees aren’t being maintained and it is safer for surrounding crops to destroy the trees, they brought up Florida oranges as an example, groves destroyed by hurricanes ended up developing disease and spreading it and this year is the lowest yield orange crop Florida has had in a long time.
CatsForSforza@reddit
This isn’t accurate to my understanding. The recent Slate article below deep dives into why Florida oranges are disease ridden and why the yield is so low.
https://slate.com/business/2026/04/florida-state-orange-food-houses-real-estate.html
Sarchee@reddit
You’re right, the claim isn’t accurate. The virus transmitted to the trees (causes citrus greening) by the Asian psyllid is fatal, has no cure or treatment, and has decimated the groves in Florida. Yields have dropped over 90% over 20 years.
chi-nyc@reddit
But citrus greening has been around almost since citrus trees. It seems very likely that the combination of mono cropping, storms, and intensive pesticide use (looking at you Monsanto) contributed greatly to orange trees in Florida becoming very susceptible to the disease. Of course, suburban blight hasn't helped.
Brazil is about to go through it too- the last article I read said that approximately 40% of their groves have been infected.
Trek716@reddit
Pretty common practice in farming. Currently in apples honeycrisp apples are becoming too costly to grow while not generating the high profits they once did so a lot of farmers have pushed out their honeycrisp trees.
fairoaks2@reddit
The Santa Clara Ca area had dozens of canneries running year round. Del Monte was one of the last. Expecting canned tomatoes to take a price hike too.
secretsquirrel17@reddit
They already have! Been watching
fairoaks2@reddit
I’m talking bigger hike this year.
Zephyr_Dragon49@reddit
I remember this happening to strawberries during 2008 and milk not long after that. I wasn't even a teenager yet but I remember being pissed off that they were doing that
SubstantialPressure3@reddit
Not "our" own making. Corporate made.
SteMelMan@reddit
Good comments. I would also add that many crop products now have patent and copyright protections.
When I first heard about this situation, I thought that Del Monte may be trying to protect whatever salable assets that remain. Selling the trees to another producer without them buying the patents/copyrights would devalue those assets.
MovinOnUp2TheMoon@reddit
Can anyone help with a different source?
(Outside of the “walled garden” of Apple or anyone else).