Fallout 76 | TheaterFire

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Koszymandias@reddit

Metroid Prime 4. Such a disappointment.

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Ayuthan@reddit

For me No Man’s Sky, it wasn’t that bad but it happened to come out on my birthday so I felt very personally offended.

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DoctorRapture@reddit

You know it's rough when PD3 has a couple hundred players at any given time while PD2 still pulls thousands. I wanted PD3 to be so good.

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Really not surprising. PD2 was great at launch and progressively with time it got more cartoonish and the new missions were either decent(still cartoonish) or outright cartoonish and bad. They went this direction because it made them money, people were paying for cosmetics or what not. Payday 3 was always going to be like later down the line Payday2 and not like payday2 at start. The only surprise for me was the trailer where they showcased cool mechanics. Didnt buy it as I wanted to see if it was going to stand after a month.

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m45onPC@reddit

I bought PD2 very late with som dlcs included and loved the way it played, felt and didnt take itself too seriously. Ultimately PD3 failed for a variety of reasons that arent just the tone of the game. The missions are arguably the worst i have ever seen, the skill trees were really boring and didnt change your gameplay too much, weapons and shooting them felt worse than in either of the previous titles... it was a total train wreck.

Combine that with its unplayable state it was in for the better part of a month and it doesnt surprise me that it absolutely flopped.

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PassivelyInvisible@reddit

The armor system was a mess to start with, most missions felt like you were put on a hard timer, max difficulty was brutal until later dlcs helped with power creep, the enemies AI/design was just meh, and the payouts felt small compared to PDtH and PD2.

Servers never being able to handle the player load was also a big reason why people just stopped trying to even get onto the game.

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BannedfromFrontPage@reddit

I would just add that PayDay 2’s launch was rough, but then it got better as they patched out the major bugs/stability issues. Then, there was period where they added some great heists, weapons, and classes. And then it started going downhill and getting cartoonish/bloated with DLC/microtransactions.

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TheDevilsAdvokaat@reddit

Just checked out of curiosity. Right now according to steamdb PD3 has 314 players and PD2 has 24,169.

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Carbon_robin@reddit

It was the 4 main games I wanted to be good it

Outlast trails
Dying light 2
Sons of the forest
PD3

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rdfalcone@reddit

the perks system has been reworked twice now, and it still is ass.

now there are better options and we got rid of the:

WHILE IN "GRIT", YOU JUMP TWICE AND STARE AT THE SUN AND GET "POISE", AND THEN YOU KILL 15 PEOPLE WITH 1 GRENADE AND YOU GET 4% DAMAGE REDUCTION

the problem I have now is that the skill tree now forces you to get too much filler to get the capstones, and perks being poorly balanced.

Kind of like Windrose.

Start off in a dinghy, depending on your map's proc gen it can be quite a trek back and forth to get your first ship.

Then you start sailing and it's fun, but then you find out that every vendor has a teleport next to them, and it becomes a question of, "Do I really want to sail for 30mins just to buy a blueprint?".

Then from what I see, most people are picking one island to build their homebase and just tp'ing back and forth, only sailing out to put down more fast travel points.

So the big sailing game becomes, gather loot, tp to base.

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Amathril@reddit

gameplay loop is to grab things into my inventory and instantly teleport to a vendor

I am not gonna tell you how you should play your games, but doing this is entirely your decision. You can play it that way, the game let's you do it. You absolutely do not have to, especially since the only "meaningful" credit sink in the game is the ship building, which you also do not like.

Yes, what you are describing is probably one of the most efficient ways to make credits. It is not the main gameplay loop, though...

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ThisUsernameis21Char@reddit

Is there a toggle everyone missed that allows you to switch from teleporting to an actual seamless controlled flight between locations?

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Amathril@reddit

You can also walk around the locations and, ya know, play the game, instead of just using instant teleport from location to location to see the quite pointless number go up.

Instead of using the Fast travel, you can go to your ship throughout the planet-based locations, go to space, jump to another star, land and walk to the vendor on foot, possibly seeing some random encounters or discover new quests along the way.

There is a number of valid criticisms for Starfield, but the fact that you can (do not have to, can) use the Fast travel is one of the dumbest. To put it another way, there is an option to skip some content. You, on your own free will, use it and then you complain that you are allowed to do so.

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ThisUsernameis21Char@reddit

you can go to your ship throughout the planet-based locations

Last I've heard, there are actual invisible walls on planets. You can't just walk across a planet the same way you can in NMS, for example.

go to space, jump to another star, land and walk to the vendor on foot

To me this just sounds like Warframe traveling, which has its own merits, but I (personally) expect Bethesda, who were bought out by Microsoft to do better in 2023 than a travel system implemented by a mid-sized company over a decade ago.

Bringing up NMS again, they made travel completely seamless unless you actually choose to use a teleporter. You can make a complete circle around a planet, get into your starship, travel to some other planet, land, get out, and walk around that planet as well. No loading screens, no borders -- that is travel!

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Amathril@reddit

Yeah, this is pointless if you want to keep moving the goalposts. No, you cannot fly around the planet and land seamlessly. That much is true. But this is miles away from the original premise that "the gameplay loop is to teleport between outpost and vendor and selling stuff".

Last I've heard, there are actual invisible walls on planets

Yeah, that's not true for quite some time now. Or rather, the "invisible wall" is the game likely crashing if you go more than ~100 miles on foot.

As I said before, the game definitely has some shortcomings, but hey, no point discussing that if you do not want to discuss it in good faith. "I heard Starfield is bad" is about the depth we are getting here, no point in engaging with that.

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

the game let's you do it.

Skyrim was way better then oblivion.

than*

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Lucifer_Kett@reddit

The spelling error kinda reinforces the intelligence of the entire sentence, let’s be honest.

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

Hmm.

Well, I agree with them about Morrowind being the best. In terms of freedom, discovery, sheer amount of crazy things you can do.

I go back and forth on whether or not Skyrim is better than Oblivion. Especially the Shivering Isles, that shit was good. But also, like all Bethesda games, mods are really where it's at and Skyrim beats all of them in terms of mods.

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Lucifer_Kett@reddit

I mean mods aren’t the game, otherwise this argument kinda spirals.

Skyrim had good dual wielding and horse combat, also blacksmithing/mining etc. The rest was just worse, imo.

The writing was just awful, the art direction was bleak, the main characters are mostly unlikeable, if not forgettable.

I waited 5 years for Skyrim after Obliv was my favourite game, and even after hours of modding, Skyrim just had no soul…

There’s no atmosphere or vibe or life to it.

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

I agree wholeheartedly.

I guess I was going for an "in terms of replay value" with what mods can offer, and since Skyrim has 79 quintillion mods, it's got replay value and novel experiences. Definitely doesn't change the lame story or anything, for sure.

Oblivion and Skyrim also introduced the compass and "go here to this map marker" aspect and that really was lame. I enjoyed Morrowind for its lack of handholding.

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Lucifer_Kett@reddit

I get you, and I agree on the lack of a map and compass, but sadly that’s kind of a ‘hardcore’ feature nowadays.

I’d love the option for you to play a more ‘realistic’ version of many games, with a static map and handheld compass like… was it Far Cry 2?

I always have to get realistic damage mods for Bethesda games too, as otherwise the enemies are far too spongy.

Getting instakilled from time to time is always hilarious, too.

Just gotta save often.

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cheapcouches@reddit

I actually disagree that Skyrim beats out Morrowind in modding. Tamriel Rebuilt is a feat of modding and IMO easily takes the cake. I feel like Skyrim has had several ambitious new lands projects and all that they really have to show for it is the Bruma demo from 2016 and Enderal (plus a couple other mid ones that I don't particularly care for). Don't get me wrong, both are great and are feats of their own right... but those mods released over a decade ago. Tamriel Rebuilt (and its sister projects) generally get yearly releases, with a new update projected to come about in a month or so.

Skyrim does 100% have Morrowind beat in gameplay and graphics mods though. OpenMW only just recently got support for custom spells. The day modders can remove RNG from morrowind's combat without it being horribly unbalanced is the day I can die happy

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CainesLaw2b2t@reddit

Raging

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

Skyrim was way better then oblivion.

It's not even Skyrim in space.

They messed up mechanics as basic as how unarmed fighting works lol

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They are only focused on left wing politics anymore. Above all else. They are only making games as a method to support mainstreaming leftism.

Sad.

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bacon4bfast@reddit

Game has so much potential.

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Aliziun@reddit

I’ve said it a million times— Starfield failed the moment it had 3 loading screens to land on a planet

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anonssr@reddit

I haven't played but wtf lol. I remember being annoyed in fallout 3 and NV because of loading screens when entering a shack lol.

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wavvvygravvvy@reddit

now imagine that, but it’s to go to leafless, boring and empty planets that all share a ridiculously small pool of assets between them.

Man I must have gotten so lucky. I played 2077 PC on release and other than the occasional NPC t-posing, my whole play through for multiple endings was glitch free. My PC at the time was thoroughly mid-range too.

Bro - I've been exactly there, and I have the perfect solution for you. You listening? Taking notes? Good, because you are going to have the time your life here if you follow my steps exactly.

First - get incredibly drunk and/or stoned. This only a requirement for the first time you play, I've found - and if you If you have a naturally bad memory this probably isn't necessary at all, but you need some way to wash the huge disappointment of the launch from your mouth.

Second - mod that shit. Amazing mods exist now. You can have flying cars that actually work right, tons of new cyberware that dynamically show up on your character's body, loads of genuinely good content. Base game + dlc is pretty decent on content, but I do consider mods basically necessary for anyone who is actually good at FPS because the game is blindingly easy without difficulty enhancement/enemy variety mods. The top 3 mod lists on nexus are all pretty good if you don't want to deep-dive, and if you have a good graphics card, the HD textures are great.

Third - This is kind of situational but I generally recommend using OptiScaler/ReShade with C77. I have a 9070XT but the game is still so bonkers with performance (it caps on CPU for some reason, which limits the use of your card) that it really helps to have granular control of the visual effects. If you're on console I can't help, sadly. Probably skip it entirely unless you have one of the peak ones.

Fourth - Wake up Samurai, you have a city to burn.

This little guide also applies almost verbatim to Starfield, the semi-recent Bethesda Sci-Fi RPG that also launched as garbage, but with patches, DLC and mods is now capable of being a pretty awesome time. Drink the bad memories away - update/install - mod - express dominance.

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mynotsoprecious@reddit

Is it though? They promised the most revolutionary next gen open world RPG of all time. They fixed the bugs, but the game still feels very shallow to me. Maybe the launch left a bad taste in my mouth, but the gameplay is just… okay.

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Yeah that's the same reason I don't read books, way too linear.

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How would 70% of the theme not have made it into the game? It's based on the old tabletop game and that theme is 100% transferred over.

The world feels cohesive and active, I've spent countless hours just watching npc traffic from a big tower and looking at the random encounters. Yes, the infinitely dense pedestrian scapes from the trailer didn't happen but the map is at least as activ and lively as any bethesda game has ever been.

the open world, despite having lots of side content, feels painfully empty,

I straightup just disagree. There's like 100+ random encounters and tons of side missions. Again, not as full as the trailer promised but still very lively for any video game.

While i agree the game can be quite easy, pumping up the difficulty is sorta exactly the point in those cases. The 2.0 update did make things a bit easier overall but i think that's fair, lore wise it kinda makes sense that you'd get really strong by buying a bunch of chrome and guns. If you'd rather feel weak then play on harder difficulties, it's pretty fun.

I don't get what you mean with the being able to get 20 levels out of a terminal part. Maybe there are easy xp exploits but it's pretty simple to just not use those if you'd rather have immersion...

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An unseen deleted message doesn’t change anything I’ve said.

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Kuftubby@reddit

No worries. Like I said before, anything after a personal attacks isn't worth entertaining as they've shown they would rather attack someone's character rather than position. You may feel otherwise and are free to converse with whomever you'd like, but I choose not to.

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SirGaylordSteambath@reddit

And as I’ve said, that’s a convenient way to dip out of a losing argument

It’s Reddit, you must cut a lot of arguments short if your line in the sand is an insult.

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Kuftubby@reddit

For sure, hear you. But it is what it is.

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HelpMeGetAGoodName@reddit

If im promised an apple, im going to be disappointed if im given a banana. They are both fruit, and both can be good, but I really wanted an apple.

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Combo_Breaker01@reddit

I was gonna say just try it anyway and see if you like it but that’s valid

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HelpMeGetAGoodName@reddit

The downvotes is because there are a total of about 15 people in this comment section who can read.

Himmelblast@reddit

Have you read the comments of that guy or are you just legally blind? Let me decide who to argue with, thanks.

Also, I think it's a very mid game right now, not even close to being worth my money I spent on that shit. It's just that on launch it was a warcrime level of atrocity

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Revan2424@reddit

Are you schizophrenic? Where did he say C77 was good on launch?

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Himmelblast@reddit

Your dad is schizophrenic, decision to have you was pure mental ilness.

Hey man. Can you explain to me what a "roleplaying roleplaying game" is?

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Revan2424@reddit

A random number generator with character sprites next to them. That’s exactly what the ads said and I want my money back NOW. If whether or not my shots miss isn’t determined by a digital dice roll how tf am I supposed to have fun???

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dragoslayer1327@reddit

I still think back and wonder how disappointed people might've been if they'd started out as corpo. (I first went nomad so I didn't experience this sadly)

Imagine playing blind and not knowing how little an impact backgrounds make, so starting with that and seeing it give you unique dialogue in the first major mission (stopping the Arasaka employee from calling the person you're "selling" to), and that her actually stopping was unique and maybe she'd have still called him if you hadn't picked that, and probably then assuming that'll happen more often later on.

Only to then realize the first time you see a different background do that section that literally all the options have the same outcome, only the corpo one made you an asshole as well. I can't even remember the first unique dialogue option for the other backgrounds, I'm assuming because they come a bit later and they're just that dull.

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Kuftubby@reddit

roleplaying rpg

Can you give an example of a "roleplaying rpg"

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LeTurboDick@reddit

Deus ex 2000, baldurs gate, fallout games (atleast the original ones, not sure about the never ones never played it)

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Kuftubby@reddit

Deus ex 2000 is an action rpg and Baldurs Gate/Fallout before 3 are cRPGs. CDprojekRed was always upfront about making it like their Witcher series, which is an action Rpg

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LeTurboDick@reddit

No they aren't, hopefully this clears it up. Now if you'll excuse me im gonna go look for the branching story line and deep consequences they promised so much about in this roleplaying rpg based on the pen and paper system that was boasted about.

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Kuftubby@reddit

No they aren't, hopefully this clears it up

Yeah, they are. Its not even up for debate, thats literally their genre

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684beach@reddit

Ok? And now you know its not, so you should probably judge the game on what it is

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Amathril@reddit

Yeah, it might not be what was in that trailer.

It is still pretty good.

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aj_thenoob2@reddit

Good thing cyberpunk 2077 isn't based off of a book, it's based off of a DND style roleplaying game with plenty of freedom.

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Kuftubby@reddit

Yeah man for sure

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InquisitorMeow@reddit

That's why I exclusively read choose your own adventure books.

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AstroBearGaming@reddit

Might I introduce you to Choose Your Own Adventure books?

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RabidOtterRodeo@reddit

The choose your own adventure genre would like a word

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Kuftubby@reddit

Those books slap. I had a few Mario Bros books that were awesome

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GreenLama4@reddit

I know what you’re trying to say, you’re arguing that the game is good even despite the controversy of the launch and marketing. And you’re right, I played it and loved it, but the people criticizing it are also right and boycotting it is valid.

The advertising of a product is supposed to tell you what you are getting, it’s often more generous than the reality, but cyberpunk’s marketing was egregiously ambitious. There was this whole deal for a month or so of people talking about how you could customize your genitals, and even past the fact that you can’t _really_ customize them, you can’t even see it in-game. It’s just in your inventory when you remove all your clothes, which i found really disappointing and pointless.

Genuinely curious what people like you think a good game is.

It’s not perfect but calling it trash is insane

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The_Freshmaker@reddit

Lmao people assumed waaaay too much from the trailers. Plenty of quests had multiple branching paths and it was an open world where you could do them as you please but ultimately an MQ is an MQ. Anyone who thought it was going to be some revolution in branching immersive game design was delusional. I played it on PC at launch and was satisfied with the 50 hours I put in, played it again on Switch 2 with the dlc and also had a great time.

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GoodBoyo5@reddit

"It was so disappointing i didn't even play it" is my favorite critique of any given game, it's so fucking funny

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getrickrolled13453@reddit

I really do recommend it even if it doesn’t manage up to the expectations you had for the game it’s a great game and one of the top 3 for me

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King_Tamino@reddit

Honestly, I wish I never played it but in a positive sense. Got my hands on it during a bad phase of my life and the side stories involving potential partners and the endings really fucked me up. It’s been over 2 years but I still randomly think about something of it and don’t get me started if I suddenly hear parts of the soundtrack…

i do believe it is no longer the launch window

izyshoroo@reddit

People forgive with their wallets. Nothing else matters if people are still buying the damn thing

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thr33beggars@reddit

Gamers are far too forgiving of corpos

Damn, you sound like you hate big corporations. I have the perfect game for you, my friend.

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SlapMePlease4Fun@reddit

"You sound like you hate big corporations."

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Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit

Gamers are far too forgiving of corpos.

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TQRS797@reddit

Never paid a single cent to play that game. And ive completed 2 runs. Arr....

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mofolofos@reddit

Agreed. People praise the game a lot, and its a good one, but nowhere near a masterpiece. It still has bugs, for the record

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Baltic_Gunner@reddit

I really think you should try it. Separated from the hype, in it's current state, one of my top 5 games ever.

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uaxpasha@reddit

Same. I played cp2077 after many claimed that was finally fixed.

Sure, they patched the bugs, but shitty physics and lifeless NPCs are still there. Now I am disappointed twice both in the game and its high review score

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atomic_wiener@reddit

Honestly, I was completely oblivious to the whole hype and only picked it up after watching Cyberpunk Edgerunners (it is very good), when the already released some major patched.

After that it only got better with more updates.

If you don‘t expect the fucking holy grail of roleplaying games (which you shouldn’t have from the get go tbh, companies always oversell their products) then it is still a very good game.

Hell it became one of my favourite games of all time.

>Gamers are far too forgiving of corpos

lo fucking l.

Which is weird because Cyberpunk is one of my favourite games of the past few years. It is a very immersive setting for me, and I love the interactivity it has. But yeah it is lineair sometimes, except for phantom liberty I found out.

But then again I completely missed the lauch, or even the trailers so I didn't expect much except the rumours the game was very bad.

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Joshey2008@reddit

I can't lie I was the exact same as you, but trust me you really should give it a shot. It became one of my favourite games

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slawter118@reddit

Bros missing out on a generational experience because of a statement lmao. Cyberpunk is one of the best games ever made

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AbanaClara@reddit

Your loss friend. 2077 is an incredible action rpg experience

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UncleBlob@reddit

The game isn't as advertised

Also I've never played it

I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

brake

B R A K E

Ahh CyberPunk. That’s what you’re talking about. I totally get that and that’s the first CP I’m thinking of
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The_Freshmaker@reddit

Man the number of people I heard say they were going to play this game like a life sim or forever game pre-launch was so damn high, I'm sad the multiplayer never panned out though but there's still hope for the sequel.

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C0RPSEGRINDER666@reddit

This was the one for me too.

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sargewalks@reddit

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Ok_Independence_2630@reddit

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Sherwoodfan@reddit

I don't get it

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I wasn't even that disappointed at launch. It was a good game despite a lot of bugs. Maybe not for console though. Now it is quite good.

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TomCBC@reddit

Tbh there are missions in Witcher 3 that are still bugged to shit.

I guess it’s a good enough game that no one cares though. Something i don’t think Cyberpunk can claim.

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Raleth@reddit

I respect the fact that there were people who were probably hyped for Cyberpunk for ages before it actually released and that the release truly was disappointing given how long people had been waiting. As someone who only got into it after its engoodening, I cannot empathize, but I do know that's how it was.

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TacticalSpackle@reddit

The amount of places you could walk to but not in was just staggering.

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psychedAddict123@reddit

This was the only game I ever returned. I bought it for Xbox One and while downloading it, I saw the shitshow on Twitter unfold and how bad it was on late gen consoles

Years later when 2.0 launched I bought it for PC and had a blast

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kilqax@reddit

The only game that cost more than 50€/$ at launch that I bought. And I still regret it when I see it in my library.

Up untile the intro heist ended, I was hooked. Then the disappointment came... It wasn't worth that much at the time.

BoboMcGraw@reddit

I preordered the collector's edition for PS4 and when I went in they told me that that edition had been cancelled, or something like that. It was still available for Xbox, but not PS4.

I had it paid off and they asked if I wanted to put credit towards the regular edition, but I declined and ended up using it for something else.

I did buy it at discount a while later and I could see how lucky I had been.

Untrue, mate.

https://youtu.be/Dw_oH5oiUSE?is=0BxaTC27L7_zk724

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Raleth@reddit

They don't really need to because if you've played one R* game, you've played them all. Like their gameplay formula is pretty set in stone at this point.

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SuperArppis@reddit

It's too bad. I was hoping some better gameplay this time around.

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HumaDracobane@reddit

They have the gameplay so stablished they doesnt really need to. Here you have the sumary:

Same Gameplay.
Better graphics than GTA V.
More people on the streets.
More interactions in the map.
A shit ton of side quests and events.
Mediocre campaogn with many funny situations borderlining the absurd.

They have actually. Rockstar said that like 40% of trailer 2 was gameplay.

Granted it was likely with their in game camera set up to make it look cinematic though and that defeats the purpose of showing gameplay.

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SuperArppis@reddit

Yep, they haven't shown the gameplay at all yet.

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So, flawless? Words have meanings.

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rosso_saturno@reddit

The second sentence clearly established the context of my comment. I believe in your intellectual ability to go beyond a meaningless imprecision and focus on the intended message.

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Silver-Suspect3158@reddit

Flawless? Far from it. And let's not forget those GTA5 Story DLCs that were promised, still wondering where they're at. In a vault behind GTAO's microtransactions?

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chrisghrobot@reddit

That last statement is not true in the slightest, there is still quite a few AAA developers that still drop quality consistently

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rosso_saturno@reddit

I'm not up to date with every single AAA developer, hence the "perhaps".

Maybe I should have specified: what puts Rockstar in a league on their own is that, besides delivering quality, they do so on generation-defining, groundbreaking titles.

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ur_moms_boy-toy@reddit

GTA Online is poloshed, curated, and complete? OK.

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rosso_saturno@reddit

Yes, it is. I've been playing GTAO on and off since day 1, and the amount of content and QoL improvements that went into it is staggering. And all for free, while presenting arguably the least invasive MTX among AAA games.

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ur_moms_boy-toy@reddit

First off, the basic mechanics of GTA are unsuitable for PvP.

The on-foot movement is unacceptable. In third person, your character moves like a drunk elephant on roller skates. In first person, all animations and even the movement speed are completely different and it feels unintentional and like a fan-made mod or something. (Probably because Rockstar had no experience with first person at the time.)

The gunplay is an actual joke. It would have been excusable at the time for a game where you only occasionally use guns, but 1) guns are used all the time in GTA, and 2) it doesn't hold up to today's standards in the slightest.

The driving is OK but extremely simplified even compared to GTA IV.

The flying is completely dogshit. No thanks, I don't need turbulence in a game with laser miniguns and flying bikes. It's almost as if Rockstar thought hitting unguided rockets on ground targets would be too easy without turbulence and the general jankiness, which is hilarious when you consider how braindead actually viable strategies are.

Those are just the core mechanics. All of them were clearly made for a purely narrative game with no gameplay challenge and absolutely no PvP multiplayer, which was later adapted to multiplayer to maximize profit via microtransactions.

Secondly: the balancing and the meta. If you want to even just survive in public lobbies, you have to abuse glitches and use overpowered vehicles and weapons. The way PvP actually plays out in this game is 100% unintended by the devs and it shows. No other game I know of has so many mechanics that just break any kind of fun or challenge you could have fighting other players. The fact that it took them so long to fix the blatantly game-breaking instakill spray-and-pray cannons on the jets is very telling.

Want to kill someone with normal guns? Better hope they don't know how to rocket spam! Want to snipe someone? Better hope they don't use BST! Want to kill someone with a heli? Better hope they don't EWO loop and teleport to their orbital cannon or spam extremely accurate homing missiles! Of course, every game has counters to certain strategies, but the 'optimal' strategy in GTA Online is being a complete dipshit. Seriously, if someone knows what they're doing and plays like this, there's pretty much 0 chance of killing them if you don't use the same dirty tactics.

And lastly, the economy. The game is, on the surface, a kind of 'crime boss simulator', and it is advertised as such. However, when you play a video game, you don't expect it to feel like a fucking job. When Star Wars Battlefront 2 launched, everyone was crying about how long it took them to unlock their favourite character or whatever. In GTA Online, you buy businesses only to be able to afford more businesses, etc. The only way to be able to afford anything in a timely manner is to buy Shark Cards, and this is exactly the kind of exploitative business model Rockstar has. The idea is: You buy a few businesses, do a few MC sell missions (which are intentionally designed to be as tedious as possible), think "Fuck this! I want to play a video game, not work!", and buy an Oppressor or whatever with real money.

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Lucroq@reddit

This reads like a 5000 hours played, don't recommend Steam review. Thank you from someone who has never played online. I heard the role playing servers are great though. A friend of mine does some coding for them

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rosso_saturno@reddit

Then take my comment as a "5000 hours played, would recommend" Steam review (:

I just finished replying to the guy, and I think that GTAO might not be ideal for you if you're looking for a refined PvP experience. But, if you like PvE, like me, you're going to have a great time.

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rosso_saturno@reddit

First of all, let's put all of this into context: GTAO released alongside GTAV 13 years ago. It was a complete experience even then, but very different, focusing mostly on classic, instanced game modes (deathmatch, race, king of the hill, etc).

Over time, it evolved significantly to meet actual expectations from players: the focus shifted to free-roam, because more people were spending time dicking round in lobbies instead of racing, parachuting and so on.

Now to your comment. I was writing a long and complex reply, but ultimately I realized I could skip the specific bits because it all boils down to the following: you're expecting an elite PvP experience from a game whose main focus has always been PvE. Your disappointment stems from the dissonance between your expectations and what the game actually is. Therefore, I'll only address the main topics you presented.

PvP / core mechanics: regarding on-foot movement, for instance, GTAV aims at realism. If you're expecting fast, highly responsive, CoD style movement, you're going to be disappointed. Some goes for weapons balancing and overall PvP mechanics in freeroam lobbies. I think that the sole fact that R* removed K/D from freeroam is a statement to the fact that they do not want freeroam lobbies to be considered free-for-all warzones. The PvP element is there just to add a bit of spice during business missions... and you can even opt out completely by switching to a private lobby.
Economy: I think it's very odd that you do not consider owning businesses and doing MC sell missions part of "playing a video game". The final goal might be buying one specific super car or military vehicle, but everything you do to get there is part of the game. I enjoy doing different business missions, heists and oddjobs; all of this, besides being fun on its own, ultimately also contributes towards the that final goal.
Microtransactions: frankly, I think that saying that Shark cards are the only way to obtain stuff in a timely manner is disingenuous. First off, this is a game with 13 years worth of content, and nothing is locked behind premium currency. And again, expectations: if you expect to jump in fresh and get the top car within 2 days of gameplay, you're going to be disappointed. There's a ton of stuff, and I think it's fair that a tiny portion is reserved for more dedicated players. And we're absolutely nowhere near the situation with Darth Vader, neither in terms of time nor exclusivity. Moreover, making GTA$ is today much, much easier in the past, while the prices of new stuff hasn't increased as much in comparison. Basically, GTAO's inflation is negative! Secondly, your conclusion that the PvP aspect of source/sell missions is there to incentivize Shark cards is in bad faith and straight-up contradicted by Rockstar's decision to allow source/sell missions in private lobbies.

In conclusion, I think you're judging a fish for its ability to climb trees. You're clearly very invested in PvP: two thirds of your lengthy comment are about PvP, in the context of a PvE centered, 3rd person, sandbox game.

GTA Gameplay is unpolished ass, how is that "great"?

the fact that you tell about GTA only in online terms tell how much it has changed.

DoktorMoose@reddit

No shit when cars came out the best ones would be like 500k to a mil, now every car is 10 to 40m The yacht if i straight bought it would cost me $220AUD, like playing star citizen lmao

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genital_lesions@reddit

That's a lot of games. And real life.

Guaranteed there’s a GTA6 battle pass where you earn shark cards as level ups

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N-Freak@reddit

It will have this reaction, more than a decade of development will create expectations nobody will be able to meet

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awolkriblo@reddit

Me before Elden Ring came out: haha what if it's dogshit? Lolll

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MrMangobrick@reddit

Please god let this happen it would be so funny

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bdiddlediddles@reddit

A ton of high quality people left after RDR2 due to burnout. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was crap.

mynotsoprecious@reddit

I’m with you. Kept my comment soft so i wouldn’t get jumped by CDPR loyalists.

The cyberpunk element is so surface level and bland it’s funny. Everyone and everything is comically evil with no nuance.

And the dialogues, they feel so unnatural when saying cyberpunk slang like choom and delta.

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elaborateBlackjack@reddit

I fully hope and expect this.

I'm expecting GTA V with one or two extra gameplay bits and better graphics.

So a huge disappointment for many

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wolacouska@reddit

They would have released it years ago if they were going to do that.

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TheSecretLifeOfArai@reddit

Nah im thinking itll be a step up from RDR2. GTA V at this point is a PS3 game, that would be a huge step backwards if that is all it ended up being.

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steak820@reddit

GTA IV was a bit like that.

Moore2257@reddit

It could be a literal steaming pile of shit and it'll still sell millions of copies so 35 year old streamers can pretend to be 18 year olds to hit on 12 year olds

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BilboSmashings@reddit

It's gonna be the same gameplay they had since gta3

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Assblaster_69z@reddit

So many doomers in the comments. Stfu

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idktfid@reddit

Im the only one who thinks GTA V was kinda awful already?

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KicKem-in-the-DicKem@reddit

If it does I'm walking back into back into the Mortal Kombat discord like this

https://i.redd.it/ctzejwbg4pzg1.gif

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

Honestly guy, at this point I think that western society will collapse entirely if GTA 6's launch is anything less than perfect.

If there's a single game-breaking bug, one scene of GenZ douchebaggery that isn't funny for multiple living generations, one character that is political without being constantly being the butt of hilarious shenanigans - China wins and the whole world becomes Muslim.

Never, in the history of mankind, has so much been riding on so little.

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Kitten Space Agency.

It's basically the new true successor to Kerbal Space Program, but instead of Kerbals, they're kittens.

Being made by some actual space engineers, the guy who made the killer mods that upgraded the graphics for KSP1, and I think a top game designer from another game (can't remember which one).

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lucidposeidon@reddit

For a moment I thought you were saying it was made by the same devs that made Space Engineers.

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thinspirit@reddit

Oh lol, no like actual engineers. Like NASA type people.

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I still think subnautica 2 will come out in a terrible (or at least mediocre) state. Can't pinpoint an exact reason why I think that, but it just feels that way. All I see here is another story of fetishization of indie developers because people are blinded by the "big dev bad, small dev good" paradigm. This is exactly what happened with KSP, this is what partly happened to Factorio, and now we have Subnautica. At release you will see people spamming good reviews in the likes of "it's subnautica" w/ 0.2h of playtime, and then it will start going down when people actually play the game. But that's just my prediction, maybe it will be amazing, we'll see.

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thinspirit@reddit

I'm hoping with the recovery of the studio, they'll go back finishing a decent game. This had more to do with terrible upper management trying to get out of an incentive deal when it looked like it was going to crush targets.

gnarwalbacon@reddit

I created a lot of the UI for outer worlds 2 :)

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

Lo, and it was given upon man, by God, these commandments:

Thou shalt not prioritize beauty of form over functionality of use in thine user interface.
Thou shalt not employ the use of vision-obstructing gradients
Thou shalt not obstruct any more of the user's FOV than is absolutely necessary
Any space that be obstructed is to be used for the communication of presently relevant information - obstruction that exists solely for the application of visual flair IS sinful in the eyes of GOD AND MAN ALIKE!
Every and all HUD elements shall be both dynamic in default and available to the user for permanent activation or deactivation
Any and all non-dynamic HUD visuals that exist for a purpose part from communicating information to the user are sinful

New: Settlement building, weapon customization, enterable power armor, interaction between companions and the environment.

Core: characters that felt real in conversations, environmental storytelling, dark humor, vaults with mysteries and histories, massive post apocalyptic landscape, and the brands and mutants we love. Some of the quests in Fallout 4 are my favorite in the series: The Nick Valentine quest, the quest where you’re traveling with Danse, the Cabot family quest, some other quests which I’m misplacing.

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ConceptOfHangxiety@reddit

Characters that felt real in conversations

Did we play the same game?

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ComradeDogeTV@reddit

Id say that Fallout 4 got some things right over it dropped the ball on some things. While it’s a good/servicable game in general, and to most non hardcore fans,

Power armor is a good change, settlement building is shit (imo), weapon customization was actually in new vegas and the fallout 4 system led to a shortage of weapons (imo). Don’t know what you mean by companions interacting with the environment tbh.

There are very good side and companion quests tho. Shame there weren’t enough of them.

I’m not gonna get into the “core” bit as I personally don’t agree with a decent bit of what you mentioned, but it’s your opinion and it’s a valid view point. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

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BannedfromFrontPage@reddit

I think your opinion on it is valid as well. I get why fans were disappointed (the removal of the Karma and faction systems for one). And oh my god, the settlements at first were so buggy. The whole game at first was really buggy. I also don’t think you’re wrong about the weapon customization thing, but I also think the way they did it in New Vegas and the way they did it in 4 were completely different, and 4s had the potential to be even better than it was (which is where mods help). Fallout New Vegas is still my personal favorite though.

As for the companion thing, the companions in Fallout 4 will speak with each other, they’ll point stuff out about the environment, they’ll remark about some NPCs. It’s a really nice detail.

Companions did feel old after a bit though as they didn’t have anything new to add or kept saying the same things.

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Ultra_Pendejo@reddit

Same

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Firebreathingwhore@reddit

Diablo IV was garbage on release

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Laiko_Kairen@reddit

The latest D4 expansion release is actually a lot of fun

Sbotkin@reddit

this seemed like a straight upgrade in every respect

Metroid Prime’s gameplay aged so well, all the developers needed was a banger world design on 2025 graphics and Prime 4 would’ve been a masterpiece.

Instead we got five linear levels connected with the worst open world of the past decade. Retro could’ve at least salvaged the concept by giving the desert music and filling it with a bunch of Zelda shrines, but apparently more than six was too much work for eight years.

God. Yea. I loved the first 3 but mp4 was just so meh. Shooting was fun but the levels all felt so linear and the bike... The biking was just so freaking boring.

Battlefield 6.

You’re telling me Dice with 700~ staff in 2011 leading up to Battlefield 3 made that much content for launch and post launch, but Dice now with 3,000~ staff can’t manage half that amount? Cmon, that’s genuinely stupid.

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NegevMaster@reddit

Its actually insane how shit the maps are in BF6 its so sad

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DorisStockwellDay@reddit

The lack of large-scale maps ruined the game. I've seen that even on the mid-size maps they've added, they reduce the boundaries to make them even smaller. Genuinely bizarre game design choices from a studio that stood out because of their huge maps that had great flow.

What's wild is that you kept playing a game you hate just because of coop. All the reason you gave are like the DNA of MH themselves, MH wilds is not going to change any of that.

I was so hyped for Wilds, watching it fall so flat kinda killed my interest in World too.

It was a long downhill though, starting with the insane system requirements, then the beta running at 10 seconds per frame on my PC, then watching the response to release...

The pre-order unoptimised slop culture in gaming needs to die.

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StupidSexyEuphoberia@reddit

This one was big. A friend and I met at 7am, where it came out here in Germany, with both our PCs to make a LAN and enjoy the game. Not only did we need half an hour to identify how to play together, because of confusing menus and systems, but playing together was super annoying for several reasons, one were the equally annoying on-rails segments. And don't start on the optimization, which was a joke.

FO4

Okay, admittedly, that's extremely harsh but the RPG aspect of the game, coming off the back of FNV, was very disappointing.

Also, ESO maybe.

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Silver-Suspect3158@reddit

Watchdogs, Resident Evil 6?

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Occyfel2@reddit

M&B Bannerlord

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Dysto_@reddit

Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 worth a shout

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Smooth_Maul@reddit

They've never been able to catch the magic like the did with the first one.

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thedefenses@reddit

I would not even be so mad if it was not killed and then DICE left us for multiple years with nothing just to come back with fucking 2042.

Sure they eventually fixed 2042 to be decent but like, could they just not delay 2042 by like 2-3 years and put one team to continue on V?

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ski599@reddit

it pisses me off even more seeing that 2024, a game flawed down to the core got that much more content and fixes when bf5 just needed a slight push to be as good as bf1.

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RedOtta019@reddit

Criminal how Soviets were never added

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Originalbrivakiin@reddit

No mounted Dshk, no Ppsh, no Mosin, no russian dinner plate lmg, NO STALINGRAD MAP.

No, instead they decide to focus entirely on possibly their worst game in the series that barely functioned on launch, even by Battlefields (admittedly, pretty shit) standards.

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RapeWater@reddit

Mirrors Edge Catalyst

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Yep, this game and anthem flopping were basically the death of bioware. Even getting over the launch bugs, the characters were goofy and the combat was a step down from me3.

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ninjaiffyuh@reddit

I disagree, I genuinely think the combat is quite satisfying (though I tend to never play soldier in any Mass Effect, so I use a lot of abilities), if the enemies don't randomly decided to just dodge

The issue is that the story is just... Meh. They've also reduced the amount of story/companion decisions, and the worst part has to be the lack of depth for characters

It’s like realtime Xcom, with meaningful/necessary stealth but also times where you need to go ‘loud’, and a lot of stress at times.

It’s not a perfect game, but I did enjoy it plenty, when I rarely play singleplayer games anymore.

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Smooth_Maul@reddit

The sequel about to go stupid hard, they've been cooking that game for a while that Xenomorph AI is gonna mimic sounds of people I know IRL to lure me out or some shit.

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Ched---@reddit

The Xenomorph AI was so good for its time. Next one is gonna fucking slap.

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Silverfire234@reddit

Aliens: Colonial Marines remains my "terrible game that I unironically enjoy"

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JACK_1719@reddit

I couldn’t even finish it. The graphics really made me struggle to play it

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Silverfire234@reddit

Fair

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WhiteTrashIdiotFuck@reddit

Sega had to send someone in person to Gearbox to get information on the status of this game’s development. When they arrived, the entire team but two people had been taken off the project.

This game is the reason Sega cut all ties with Gearbox.

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JACK_1719@reddit

Was it sega who removed them from the team or the leader or gearbox?

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WhiteTrashIdiotFuck@reddit

Gearbox had moved them off the project to work on Borderlands

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JACK_1719@reddit

Booooo gearbox

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

I've pretty much given up on the Aliens series for video games now. Isolation was peak in it's time, and every other game before and since has been mediocre at best.

SpaceySinko@reddit

Battlefield 2042

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CallmeIshmaelV@reddit

Battlefield V. It had so much potential

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MrZelf@reddit

cubeworld :(

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NoobVanNoob234@reddit

Dune awakening. Was hella hyped for the pvp aspect.
Cool melee combat that’s centered in dune lore? Nope it’s all helicopter fights. High-risk high-reward deep desert spice harvesting and gameplay? Killed within a month or two of the game being out.

Like as a solo/co-op game it’s decent. Pretty solid survival crafter overall actually but any cool pvp potential is gone.

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Monado1022@reddit

Persona 3 Reload

Subnautica Below Zero

Yakuza Kiwami 3

Sonic Colours Ultimate

clone9786@reddit

Agreed but it’s pretty great now though. Hot take but i liked it better before they brought back the NPCs

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The_Digital_Friend@reddit

do you still have to pay real money to have more ingame storage? I was fucking shocked to see I couldn't store more than like 100 items before it was full, and had to buy a fuckin subscription to keep looting

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clone9786@reddit

Idk, I’ve played for years and haven’t had that issue, but I also don’t pick up everything so idk

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CheeZas3@reddit

Release F76 and now are completely different in the general vibe. Without the npcs it felt depressing and dark (in a good way) and now its mostly goofy and adventurous. Its definitely a fun multiplayer rpg game

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TheGreatZarquon@reddit

I slept on 76 for the longest time and gave it an honest shot a couple months ago; I've been playing daily ever since. 76 leans hard into the goofy shit, and it's entertaining as hell because of it. Making moonshine for the Raiders by killing hundreds of acidic lizards with the lads and then fuckin Bigfoot or a giant killer robot shows up? Hell yeah, where's my Gauss Minigun?

I think you're looking at that through rose-colored glasses. No Man's Sky was a clustershit-fest at launch.

Everything that was a procedurally generated, had extremely little "creative wiggleroom" in the algorithms, making most creatures, plants and planets look the same.

There was nothing to do, beside going from planet to planet to look at the "slightly different, but utterly boring" plants and animals.

I remember some pitch about it being a "single-player multi-player" game, because everyone was connected and played the same game, but the distances between players would be so vast, no one would ever be in the same places at once. Lo and behold, players tried to rendezvous and they were successful. Unsurprisingly, there were no other players on the planet, and no signs of them ever being there, other than the logbook recording who discovered the planet.

It sucked harder than the vacuum of outer space.

NMS was rough at launch. It wasn't broken, it was just incredibly boring imo. There was just nothing to do.

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I didn't like it the first few times I tried to play it. I ended up just committing and playing it, and I'll be honest I absolutely loved that game. I think it tried too hard to be bioshock at first

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ryanfrogz@reddit

I was so excited for it back in… jeez, 2018??… the whole aesthetic just looked so good to me. But then it started becoming whatever it is now, and i promptly forgot it existed. Crispy critters.

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purdue_fan@reddit

tears of the kingdom was underwhelming

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StupidSexyEuphoberia@reddit

For me it was one of the best games of the year. What didn't you like about the game?

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craze4ble@reddit

Personally I just got bored of it. I found the writing "okay", and the crafting mechanic a fun gimmick but imho it didn't add much. The three-layered map is massive and interesting at first, but it becomes a chore really fast; there's only so much you can do with the exploration-mechanics, and it becomes fairly repetitive. I did enjoy the hand-powers though, the ability to "swim up" through the ceiling was fun.

Royce_Melborn@reddit

I think botw and totk cater to different audiences.

Botw has a curated sense of adventure where the player is encouraged to explore every nook and cranny.

Totk is for players who likes to fuck around and build outrageous shit.

Totk has the better story but the way it's told fucks with it a lot.

Botw has the memorable characters.

Budokai lost me after 3, and ill stand by it that 2 and 3 are are better than the rest of them by far, and why Fighterz is the actual best dbz fighting game.

OriginGodYog@reddit

I’ll never consider remakes mainline. They’re remakes. Arceus was a different time period in a “different” region. That mainline enough to me I guess, expanded mainline even? ORAS and HGSS are literally the same game with the same character dropped into a slightly more polished world.

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18bluecat@reddit

What you say is true, but the pokemon company says they're mainline. What are your thoughts on Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum?

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OriginGodYog@reddit

They’re the original DLC. The most refined version of each gen. People say having a third version was a scam, but are more than happy to download a digital patch that costs just as much if not more than a $30 gbc or gba game did back in the day.

Did I hate spending what little money I had as a kid to get the full experience? Yes. Did I enjoy playing through a game for a third (or more) time? Absolutely. Even the smallest variation in the story was a treat.

-TheDoctor@reddit

I really hope The Expanse: Osiris Reborn doesn't become this for me. It's the first game I've ever had any desire or intention to buy a collectors edition for.

TheMediocreZack@reddit

Anthem

Or worse yet, Prey 2. They announced it was 97% finished and releasing in months then it got cancelled.

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Hyrotto@reddit

Resident Evil 3 remake

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sewerpickle4@reddit

Ultima IX

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Slot_Ack@reddit

Rome 2 Total War

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arob1606@reddit

No way! Rome 2 is right behind Med 2, Rome and WH3 (with past games + DLC) imo. What's your grip with Rome 2? Just curious

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Slot_Ack@reddit

The release state of the game was a fucking train wreck that the community generally seems to agree didnt get resolved until patch 15 (Emperor Edition release IIRC)

Remember how bad Duke Nukem Forever was when it came out?

Starfield comes to mind.

No Man's Sky at 2016 launch.

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gloveboxnapkinss@reddit

Dying Light 2 :\^(

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J_Brother@reddit

Starfield still pisses me off

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OleBoyBuckets@reddit

For me it was Witcher 3. I spent so much time hyping myself up for this game because everybody said it would be the greatest thing.

Got my hands on it and felt the clunky ass combat, heard the dry dialogue and was like what the fuck is this?

I think the hype had long died down by the time it came out.

The hype was real in 2001, but ten years later people were mostly apathetic about it. No one actually thought it would be a great game.

Payday 3

Putting it on game pass on launch day just highlighted all it's faults

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Arrowguy232@reddit

Dragon age Dreadwolf. I know Veilguard was pretty controversial, but back then when it was still dreadwolf people were really really hyped. As time passes more and more stop seeing the political discourse and see the truth. The game is ass regardless of politics.

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Sir_Umeboshi@reddit

Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga

They put the setting in the literal slavery capital of that world... and don't mention it once. Threw out a ton of complexity to shoehorn in simplified stuff. Like... term Tranquil doesn't appear once in the entire game. (Widely used/referenced part of the universe's lore. A Punishment akin to the demenors kiss in Harry Potter. Used very liberally to rule the oppressed population. with fear.)

Took a series where you had actual choices to make and boiled your dialogue options down to.

"Yes!" (Happy)

"Yes." (Sarcastic)

"Yes." (Serious)

Its an M rated game and the best you get out of the romance options is a kiss and a fade to black when in prior games they showed like... allllll of it.

It wasn't the worst game I've ever played, but I was ridiculously disappointed by the MGS3 Delta remake. They were so close to perfection with the OG, all they had to do was tighten up the controls and give the visuals an overhaul.

I dont know what the game's like nowadays, but it was bordering on unplayable when I played it around release. It ran like utter dogshit even on good PCs, and the movement was overanimated and lacked responsiveness. All I wanted was MGS3 running on MGSV's engine, and what we got was a barely functional UE5 slopfest that barely ran on good hardware.

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chance_n0ir@reddit

Black Clover: Quartet Knights

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ExoTheFlyingFish@reddit

Fallout NV but retroactively. People hyped it up like it was handmade by Talos himself, so I bought it for like $2 on sale, and I still felt scammed. What a heap of garbage.

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While not Theworstthingever, I have never been as hyped for a game as for Xenosaga, because Xenogears had been such an incredible experience for teenage me and at the end of its credits it then said „Xenogears Episode V - The End“, and in no way did Xenosaga live up to that expectation.

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benbalooky@reddit

Kerbal Space Program 2

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Alternative_Pay_4657@reddit

Lego Worlds. I'm so disappointed in that game. What was supposed to be a slam dunk (literally just lego minecraft) became a shell of what the original beta version was. I'm still upset.

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Sim City 2013.

I was a huge simulation fan in the 90s but Sim City was king. The first run of main line games was perfect, each one added so much to the core idea of the game. Sim City 4 was great and even though I went back to playing 2/3000 I still remember it fondly. So after a decade of nothing super new coming out I was chomping at the bit for a new Sim City thinking about what they were gonna do with the power of computers at the time. Then it came out and I couldn’t even play cause of the servers and even with all the new graphics and things it felt more dumbed down than any of the other sequels. Basically killed my love of city builders for a long time afterwards

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Anomalus_satylite@reddit

Agony

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chuikon@reddit

Half Sword

The demo's combat was peak and I hoped the early access would mostly be new game modes and content without touching the physics too much.

They touched the physics and now my willy is atrophied, keeps falling over and can't swing a poleaxe properly.

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NPRdude@reddit

It's funny, I've still got the demo installed as a "I'm gonna kill 20 minutes" kind of goofy outlet, but I've heard such bad things about the early access release I have no desire to actually get it.

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NanoscaleHeadache@reddit

All Switch Pokémon games ;-;

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TMM1003@reddit

Skull and Bones

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MrBingly@reddit

Mass Effect Andromeda

Halo 2... im not even kidding. pathetic and colossal downgrade from CE. never been so disappointed in my life. never got hype for a game again.

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unpluggedbwock@reddit

Was really damn excited for fable 3. Was old enough to buy it myself this time around so went in for the special edition of the game for the sake of it and man oh man did i find that game was awful. No hate/shame to those who enjoy it, i personally just wasn’t a fan. I still have love for it in its own way just never to the level of the first or second

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Baldyjim@reddit

TEKKEN 8 currently

I was so up for it, fucking LOVE TEKKEN 7 and sunk couple thousand hours into it. TEKKEN 8 just takes a lot of fundamentals of TEKKEN as a game and just says "what if we made it a stance character with a 50/50" and everything is SO oppressive. There's less nuance to it.

It's poo.

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Nukethepandas@reddit

Command and Conquer 4.

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Cruz_Games@reddit

I was really excited for Fnaf security breach...

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ChrisGLink@reddit

Tears of the Kingdom

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HumaDracobane@reddit

Not mine but a lot of people were expecting The Day Before as if it was 15L of pure water during a desert march.

ANTHEM

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Inuakurei@reddit

Andromeda.

Xano74@reddit

Mass Effect Andromeda after ME1-3

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YouAmGROOT@reddit

Stalker anomaly. Nuff said.

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UncleRotelle@reddit

For me personally Redfall, i remember seeing the first trailer and being super excited and hopeful and then hearing all the bad things on release i was glad I couldn't afford it

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GreenRiot@reddit

Probably GTA VI, not only because it would be super funny.

But because or how AAA studios are rotting from inside in the last few years, trying to fully replace talent with AI, put absolutely incompetent AI/Marketing bros managing artists and programers.

How AAA went mental over turning everything into a live service, so the game will be in an unfinished state with the promisse of having a skeleton crew patching things up over the lifetime of the game.

How AAA studios will try to bumb graphics to the maximum degree, while not spending a cent on optimization. Because they think DLSS can make anything run on your standard broke gamer laptop.

Then they'll take months of clapback to accept they have to fix shit. And they'll try to convince ppl to just upgrade their PCs.

Man GTA 6... we haven't had commercials or ads blatantly on loading screens, or in-game ads like audible outdoors in the actual map. But GTA 6 setting is the real world

But if any game, from any company tries to normalize in-game non optional ads will be GTA 6. It'll likely be such a shitshow that we'll look of the cyberpunk 2077 year long melt down as. "Eeh, 'member how we thought that was bad".

Yall aiming too high here. Lot of these still popular.

Wolcen was dubbed a PoE/D3 competitor and had a distarious launch.

TheOvulatorrr@reddit

Fallout 4

Still enjoyed but wasn't anywhere near what I was hoping for. I've come around on it now and like it a lot more but at the time I was so disappointed

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llamiro@reddit

Kingdom Hearts 3

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Cytoplasm1010@reddit

Overwatch 2

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Foroc555@reddit

Metroid Prime 4

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jrlc1@reddit

Marvel vs Capcom infinite.

ImgurReject@reddit

Hogwarts Legacy. Half the damn game you don't get your mount that you paid a skin for and none of the decisions you make actually matter. Trash game.

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Wiinterfang@reddit

King of Fighters 12. I had never let myself get this hyped again.

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Recipe-Less@reddit

Anthem

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SmokyTyrz@reddit

Strike Commander

My first foray with a launch delay. I wanted to fly those planes so badly I could taste it.

Then delay after delay. More hype each time. Chris Roberts was learning, too (he made Star Citizen).

Eventually it launched late April 1993 and it was buggy AF. Ran like crap. Not smooth like Wing Commander. Much disappointment.

TraumaPerformer@reddit

Dead island.

I was so excited - Borderlands and Resident Evil had a baby, and somehow it was the single worst digital experience of my life.

_LePer@reddit

Europa universalis 5, for now

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EliGon666@reddit

Tekken 8

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Hardyfreak@reddit

BRINK...

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ImpressiveWaltz7631@reddit

FM26

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LordSkellyBoi@reddit

Doom dark ages. I was so hyped for it because I love the doom franchise, then it came out and it was just ok. Felt like a downgrade from doom eternal, music wasn't as good and sounded like it was for a different game, visuals were ok I miss all the glory kills and it just feels like they really missed the mark. There was fun bits like the mech suits but even they were just 3 different attacks you spam again and again. The villain looks cool but I basically immediately forgot about him and everything else in the game as soon as I was done. Nothing has made me want to replay it, I can't even pick a moment that was my favorite because it all kinda felt the same.

I know mick gordon left Bethesda after they screwed him but it feels like they intentionally tried to make the music sound different than the previous 2 games to distance themselves and it just doesn't sound good.

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Skydude252@reddit

Mass Effect Andromeda wasn’t terrible, especially after some patches, but I got it as a pre-ordered present and was super hyped because I loved the series. And while it wasn’t terrible overall, the expectations compared to the end product was a huge drop.

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PaleontologistNo7698@reddit

Forspoken. By far LMAO

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Sir_Daxus@reddit

Death Stranding and Death Stranding 2

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Slide-Maleficent@reddit

....Huh? This the only one I've seen in the list so far that I really don't get at all.

I mean.... Kojima promised us a post-apocalyptic package delivery game, and that's exactly what we got. Plus a lot of pretty moss-covered rocks, a genuinely dank frosty mountain sim (1), as well as a solid desert travel sim (2).

At a certain point, I think, being disappointed with a game that delivers exactly what it promised has to be considered your own fault. I only use PC, though, and the PC versions launched a year later in 100% perfect state, so maybe it was initially a mess on Playstation or something?

Vampires the masquerade bloodlines 2

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esotologist@reddit

Kingdom hearts 3

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av123h@reddit

Too many to count

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Gramerdim@reddit

overwatch 3

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Blastphemie@reddit

Dragon age: Dread wolf

Cyberpunk 2077.

"It'll be ready when its ready". Meanwhile, my PS4 copy, after three years of updates, is still less stable than a day one release of a Bathesda game. I've heard people are now having a better experience of it on other platforms, good for them.

ruurdwoltring@reddit

Bloons td battles 2

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_TheKid_@reddit

Tony Hawk 3&4 Remake

amidoes@reddit

Killing Floor 3

SpaceOdysseus23@reddit

Metaphor: Refantazio

"We promise it's not Persona, it's a gritty and serious world"

Spiderman 2 and Cyberpunk 2077

The only two games I ever preordered because I trust they literally cannot fail

Needless to say I never preorder anything ever again

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Abortedwafflez@reddit

Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis

Big fan of the series since Universe. So needless to say I was hyped for the Xbox release finally coming to the US after being dead for over a decade. It turned into gacha slop.

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Zek0ri@reddit

Ever since the gameplay reveal, it’s been clear that CIV 7 is going to be a tough sell, especially as Firaxis has insisted on turning this game into Humankind 2.

Cyberpunk 2077

Imagine hyping up a game with so many features and potential, deliver a broken thrash heap with more than half of said features missing and still having an active fan base years later