Is the "future-proofing" of the RTX 5080 really worth it compared to the RTX 4090?
Posted by AdamCaveRoberts@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 162 comments
I do consuming video editing and really just want to run every game at max at this point of my life.
So I'm tempted to buy the best variation of the 5080 whatever it is. Google and around the web mention that the DLSS upscailing amonst other things makes the 5080 a strong choice even if its 10-20% worse in overall performance.
With that said, should I continue my tireless journey trying to hunt a reasonably priced 4090, or is the 5080 a reasonable thing to consider for the next 5-10 years (I don't plan or care to change either of these for a while) unless the 5090 drops by 80% eventually.
Will getting the 5080 benefit me for the future of tech/gaming enough that even though it is less powerful generally, it still will benefit me mid-long term?
EdErichZann@reddit
I would get a 5070 Ti now, and then upgrade in several years (two or three generations in the future) to a similar tier GPU. Then you paid something similar in total (maybe), and have a much better GPU then.
Somewhere-Flashy@reddit
The problem is they 5070ti are going for a 1000 plus now and for 1245 you can get the zotac 5080.
SnooLobsters8155@reddit
Just bought zotac 5070ti for 1k usd and 5080 is 1350 or more. Dont think its worth to pay for 5080
XSLaurens@reddit
5080 is better for that money in my opinion. A 5070ti for 1000? Nah
SnooLobsters8155@reddit
350 extra for 5080? Not rlly worth
XSLaurens@reddit
350 isn’t a lot of money for some people, 5080 is still a better card
DueAsk7939@reddit
how much better? should I really be saving almost another 400 that itself is alot for me 1000 is the top of what id consider spending on anything rn
XSLaurens@reddit
If 1000 is the top then you can’t afford a 5080 anyway. The 5070ti comes pretty close to the 5080 so it’s still a good card but the 5080 has a raw performance increase of about 15%. The real difference comes from overclocking the 5080. When overclocked right it can come really close to a stock 4090 which is really good. The 5070ti just can’t do that. Here in the Netherlands the difference in price was about 250 so it was worth it for me to get the 5080. But if you can’t afford a 5080, don’t be that concerned, the 5070ti is still a really good card but you just have to sacrifice some settings (ultra—> high/medium
DueAsk7939@reddit
ahhhh im giving myself a year to save so by the time I get 1000 ill really weigh it out to see if i should keep waiting because I am doing 4k, and planning 8k vr in the future, I feel id really want a 5080oc for that I heard someone say you cant cheep out on 4k, and 5080 overlooked sound so phenomenal I might juat thug it out,
XSLaurens@reddit
Getting a 5070ti still isn’t “cheaping out on 4K” but yeah ofcourse a 5080 will be better for 4K. But you can still get good frames on 4K with a 5070ti by just sacrificing some settings. If you do this smart then you will barely notice sacrificing some settings. If you are struggling financially a bit and the 5080 is less than 300 more than the 5070ti, I would go for the 5080. If the difference is more than 300 I would go for the 5070ti. And lastly, if you have plenty of money, I would go for a 5080 regardless.
DueAsk7939@reddit
awesome!!! the 5080 proart is like my super money having dream card, but if by next year I get a good job and my saving rate increases, ill DEFINITELY go for a 5080 withouta doubt, I heard the noctuas where silent, for my audio based build that would be imperative if the budget got there, but ill definitely see by next year, or less if a miracle happens and I can save faster, I am having some financially freeing opportunities coming up this next month or so so im hella looking for to it, especially with market fluctuations by next year they might be cheaper!
XSLaurens@reddit
You will be set for a long time to come if you get the 5080. Just be sure to maintain it by keeping an eye on the temperature and cleaning dust off of it
DueAsk7939@reddit
honestly I really want to make a solid investment in my workstation, so I will be overlooking a 5080, itll take me a year or more to save for but im prepared to fricking cherish the thing for the rest of my life😭😭😭😭😭 4090 level performance has been my dream since the 20 series came out so yeah I should just go for it
RepEvox@reddit
I just bought one for 899 and they frequently go for 850 used.
Somewhere-Flashy@reddit
I wouldn't want something expensive used and brand new prices are 1000 plus.
RepEvox@reddit
Understood, but I bought a brand new one for 899 from newegg a few days ago. ASUS Prime.
Somewhere-Flashy@reddit
I just checked newegg its currently 1009 the asus prime one.
blak000@reddit
Newegg is selling 5070 ti's for around $900. You just have to look for models on sale.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
The 5080 is only a couple hundred more at this point I'm spending so much anyway. There is virtually nothing anywhere I can find a reasonable price for the 4090 I am looking everywhere like a psycho. Anything reasonable are scammers or weirdos.
With that said I am going to gungho on this PC, that I am leaning towards getting the 5080 brand new (now the prices are really not that bad) and selling it when a rumored variation of the 5080 comes out. Or until the 6000 series. What are your thoughts? I would have had the 4090 already but it is nearly impossible to find it at a normal price with a not crackhead seller
EdErichZann@reddit
Yeah makes sense, the 5080 is more than enough for most things at the moment, and I would gues that it would be fine even until the 7000 Series, especially with how good DLSS 4.5 upscaling in balanced or even performance mode is these days. I would just not buy a 5080 that is several hundreds more expensive than the "normal" 5080 models, that is not worth it.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
Ty man
Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
5070ti ceased production due to the memory shortage which led prices to increase by 200-400$ on most countries. Might as well save up for a 5080
InsertFloppy11@reddit
Imo even the 5080 isnt worth it.
TetraGton@reddit
I went to 5080 after my 3080 died. It's not worth it. Sure, having more than 10Gb of Vram is nice, but this card just isn't worth the price.
Agile_Macaroon_4394@reddit
Agree, upgrade from 3080 to 5080 was underwhelming for the cost
MasonicManx2@reddit
Then what would the optimal upgrade from a 3080 be?
Agile_Macaroon_4394@reddit
Well it's use case and budget specific.
Optimal performance - 5090 of course. But not worth the cost for most people. It's what I ended up doing after being a little underwhelmed with the 5080.
The market is difficult at the moment. From my experience I would advise 3080 users to hold out as long as they possibly can to get a more valuable upgrade. If you have to upgrade now - 9070xt and 5070ti are good options.
mshab356@reddit
I’m in the same dilemma. Do I keep my 3080 even though I’m upgrading the internals to AM5, or do I just buy a 5070ti or 5080
dr-chop@reddit
As a 5070ti owner from release, if you're gaming at 1440p, it maxes out everything I've personally played @120hZ with ultra settings, and most games @144hZ. If you're looking for anything above that level of performance, or have a 4k monitor, I would probably go with a 5080.
5070ti will work at 4k, but not at high frame rates. So if you're into shooters at all, it's probably a no-go at 4k.
DarthWeezy@reddit
Ignore them, they’re full of shizz, the upgrade from 3080 to 5080 has been massive.
Morlu@reddit
Yes, these people are either lying, or their systems are poorly configured. A 5080 would absolutely blow any 30 series card away, it’s a massive upgrade even over the 3090.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
The stats speak for themselves. I have a 3080 during all of this. The 4090 is nearly impossible to find at a normal price. I am really leaning towards getting a 5080 and selling it when the super comes out or something else comes out.
From 3080 to a 5080 seems like an incredible upgrade and the 5080 price for me isnt too bad.
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Morlu@reddit
I went from a 3090 to 5080. Don’t regret it at all. Massive difference, especially on UE5 games.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
What are your thoughts on this? It's is supposed to be incredible value for a brand new 5080 https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-gddr7-video-card/18934178
mshab356@reddit
Even 5070ti is big. Like 15% jump. And 5080 isn’t much higher than 5070ti I hear they’re close in performance.
DarthWeezy@reddit
5080 is on average 20%, the perf bump isn’t small and it’s 100% worth it, but you do have to pay for it.
The problem these days is that you are paying for every % of additional power. With the 3K series and up gone are the days when you used to buy more power for visibly less money when a new hardware generation got released, unfortunately. Now double the power is double the price.
mshab356@reddit
Oh you’re right. Hmm… it’s about $200-300 more for 5080. Maybe I’ll do that.
AsheBnarginDalmasca@reddit
He's trying to justify his 5090 purchase by shitting on the 5080 lol.
Agile_Macaroon_4394@reddit
No justification needed brother. But here you go - I'm happy with it and it's currently worth nearly twice what I paid.
Also not shitting on the 5080, it's a great card. Just sharing my experience that the performance jump from the 3080 didn't seem worth the cost. 3080 is still a great card for 1440/1080.
Bromatoast@reddit
It's still a big upgrade, but. Not as much as it has been previously. I think the 1080-3080 more than doubled my fps.
3080 to 5080 I think was roughly 75% increase.
Do I regret it? Hell no. I got mine for 999 and now the market is fucked. Would I buy it at 1200? 1500? Also probably no. So I guess the arguments are valid. If you can find a 5070ti for MSRP that might be your best option.
akirbybenson@reddit
Or do you need nvidia features past the value proposition of a 90% as fast as 5070ti 9070xt that's $300-$400 cheaper in most places in the US? The 50 series feels like a joke if you're not blowing 3k on a 5090. The 5080 is almost literally half the card the 5090 is on paper. Why spend almost 1300 USD On it?
mshab356@reddit
Yeah, I’ve been dealing with that same dilemma. I don’t do hard-core gaming on my 3080 right now, between work and also having a PS5 and Xbox lol. But I would eventually like to go to 4K gaming. I want to start doing PC gaming more, I’m starting to buy more games on PC over the console.
I guess I’ll keep the 3080. My other issue is that Oh upgrading the internals, literally everything from the motherboard to the ram etc. to AM5.
The new MSI MPG X870 mobo.
I’m going to need to adjust the bios settings, so that my 3080 can run without any issues, right?
Morlu@reddit
Hard core gamer. The 5070ti or 5080 will be a MASSIVE upgrade. The problem is the current prices. Even the AMD cards will be a significant upgrade for you.
chokingonpancakes@reddit
I went from a 3080 to a 5070ti but this was before the prices went up. I paid around $800 for my 5070ti but they are now going for $1000 at Microcenter, not sure if I would've went in at that price.
mshab356@reddit
I mean $200 isn’t that big of a difference for me tbh. I know that’s not the case for many. I originally had made a deal w someone on here to sell them my 3080 and I buy 5070ti but they have gone MIA so it’s either I just keep it or still sell it. $400 for that makes it max $500-600 I’d have to pay out to get 5070ti.
If I keep the 3080 though I’d have to probably adjust the bios bc my new mobo I’m gonna upgrade to is an AM5 and I’m upgrading to 9800x3d… I’m sure I’ll have to do something in bios to make sure the 3080 runs properly and stable
chokingonpancakes@reddit
Why would you have to change anything in your bios for an older card? Doesn't even make sense bruv.
mshab356@reddit
I was just read something on here this morning that somebody had instability issues with their 3080 on a newer motherboard. That’s why.
disturbed286@reddit
I'm actually really glad I stumbled upon this.
I just bought a 1440 ultrawide monitor, which is awesome, and the 3080 handles it just fine. That said, I found myself wanting to upgrade anyway, running into the same price situation as anyone else.
I think that's what I needed to hear.
Gex2-EnterTheGecko@reddit
If you can find it at MSRP a 9070 XT gives a pretty big performance bump and has 6 gigs more VRAM for a reasonable price. That's assuming you are ok with switching to AMD.
adanceparty@reddit
I went from a 3080ti to a 5070ti before it price hiked. I'm satisfied with it.
spartan0746@reddit
I mean, I went from a 3080 to a 5080 and was very happy.
Morlu@reddit
That’s cope. It’s like a 70-80% increase over the 5080 plus new DLSS features. Massive upgrade from a 3080.
ManinThebox876@reddit
The 3080/Ti 16GBVRAM on Laptop is probably the goat MGPU of the decade in the 2020s like the GTX 1080Ti on DESKTOP. Future proof with 16GBVRAM that out lasts most 12GBVRAM mGPUs, and has 256 bandwidth that let's you play in 2k and 4k better than those. Plus most of the newer GPUs relies on DLSS or any other softwares.
I've been playing on my Legion 7 on almost every popular games at the highest settings on 2k and 4k, capped in on 60fps with RTSS and some help with Lossless Scaling Frame Gen 3.1 or FSR 3.1 Frame Gen and it's all good.
AD1SAN0@reddit
It’s not if you don’t know the price. maybe it’s only $100 more than 5070 TI, then 5070 Ti is not worth it like it was in my case.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
The 4090 is superior to the 5080, imo
PathOfDeception@reddit
You got downvoted for that??? Lol
lotsof_freetime@reddit
The 5080 can easily overclock to be on par with the 4090 (only +350 and +2500), with the only downside being the lack of VRAM. Add that to the fact that the 4090 is 500-1000$ more expensive, and the 5080 is much better value.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
The issue is the 5080 isn’t the same working power, as they claimed
lotsof_freetime@reddit
Do you mean the power draw? If so, they’re about the same. My 5080 draws around 280-340 under heavy load (300-350 with 125% power limit), and google says the 4090 is between 300-450w
LeatherLog1543@reddit
The 5080 isn’t able to do the same in a workstation. Gaming, it might be close. But in a workstation, the gap is discernible.
InsertFloppy11@reddit
True!
Lt_Cmdr_Adhd@reddit
Price efficiency isn't everyone's top min-max priority, and compared to the 5070ti it has both a base performance and overlooking headroom advantage. When you're looking at $2300-$3000+ for a full build, an extra $200-$300 for a potentially 15-20% performance gain is pretty interesting to a lot if people.
I wouldn't recommend a 5xxx series to someone with a 3090 or better, but that's exactly expected. It's never smart to buy a new gpu every generation.
MrWally@reddit
I got a prebuilt with a 5080 for $1900 in December. It feels like one of the best decisions I could have made. I did miss out on a 5070ti prebuilt for about $1600 a month earlier, but that deal hasn’t come back since so I think I came out alright.
Coming from a 3060ti, the 5080 is mind blowing. I have a 1440p 165hz display and between dlss and frame gen I’m maxing it out regularly.
Certain_Net7958@reddit
I bought a prebuilt with a 3060 because I didn’t research enough and hadn’t played a video game in years but it ended up being a pretty solid starting point. Most games I play are getting 110 ish FPS with some tweaking and I paid around a thousand dollars like 4 years ago. I’ve been looking at the 5080 and 5070 ti but it literally costs what my PC cost. Lol.
Lt_Cmdr_Adhd@reddit
Fully agree. The majority of the 5xxx or 5080 haters on reddit are not legitimately customers for an expensive GPU right now. Was even more the case last year. Saw plenty of "there's no world in which a 5xxx makes sense" when all that did was self-indicate that they are ignorant to the prices of the cards actively available.
- xx80 cards have been $1000 or more for 3 years now, with the 4080 being $200 more, so not sure why the sudden peal clutching over the cost. - 4xxx series BNIB are equally if not more expensive due to no supply, so that's not a valid competitor if it's weaker, older, and still more expensive. - the 5090 is almost for an entirely different target audience. My entire build w 5080, 9800x3D, 64gb 6000hz cl10 ram, cost $2300. Spending that same cost on one part when I'm already getting 150fps at 4k seems unnecessary for my use.
YouKilledApollo@reddit
Now do Pro 6000!
ClearFeedback3@reddit
you want to run every game at max settings, if you mean at 4k you are looking at the wrong card. if you try cyberpunk with PT, alan wake 2, mafia the old country you ll see that you have to make compromises in order for them to be playable. my 5090 gives around 60-65 fps on this game with dlss quality so dont expect them to run on max settings. there are only two 4k cards at the moment. the 5090 and the 4090.l everything else needs compromises, let alone being future proof. if you are talking about 1440p then yes the 5080 is a good choice
ManinThebox876@reddit
Nah tbh, GPU generation doesn't really matter much as long as it isn't too left behind except for 8+yrs old. What matters for the GPU is for its VRAM and Bandwidth considering you want to do some 4k stuff. Then mostly, since you'll be prompting assistance from the AI, you're gonna need a much powerful CPU compared to GPU and the more RAM, the better. Hope this helps.
BigArachnid2@reddit
Idk what your prices are but for me a 5080 is around $1500 and a 4090 is around $2500- $3000 used.
I ended up going the refurb prebuilt route and scored a 5090 and 9800x3d with 64gb ram and 4tb ssd for like $200 more than the gpu alone. Comes with a 2 year warranty aswell. Just food for thought, if you dont need it right now just search for deals
SkittlesAK47@reddit
The 4090 is objectively the better card. 20% better raster performance and a whopping 8gb more in VRAM. The 5080 simply does not have enough VRAM for future proofing.
The AI shenanigans do help with artificially increasing graphics settings and resolution, but nothing beats our pure raster performance.
Hunt for a 4090. But if you truly do want a card to keep for 5-10 years, you would definitely need a 5090. 5-10 years is a very long stretch, and considering how fast these cards are improving, even the 4090 won’t cut it.
Nvidia is cutting 6000 series production in place for machine learning graphics cards, and they are also delaying the release. Even after it’s released, the initial 6 months of stock will be bought out by scalpers.
Iron_Idiot@reddit
5080 isn't future proof, the VRAM and lack of relative uplift compared to the 40 series demonstrate that.
ebonyseraphim@reddit
Future proofing hasn’t been a thing to watch out for in GPUs for a while. After programmable shaders became a thing and evolved to pretty much compute whatever they needed, and take inputs and provide outputs in pretty much any format to anywhere else in the pipeline — we’re back to bandwidth, clocks, and full rates pretty much telling you the performance you’re going to get. Nvidia is playing a game where they’re pretending some of their features are doing something the prior ones aren’t capable of, but that’s very easily being blown up by AMD and Intel showing us versions of the same features that run on any card. Nvidia is tenuously holding on to the quality results being marginally better, if that. And the lag it takes for the reality to become known.
Let’s look at making the decision to future proof when you were looking at a GTX 1080ti vs RTX anything — how did that work out? Does a 2080Ti run any ray tracing for any game with decency? Turns out, it was a scam: https://youtu.be/nzen0AvINrI
And let’s take a look at
Rich_Youth_7871@reddit
Honestly, if you already have anything on par with a 3070, 3070 Ti, or an equivalent card, I would absolutely wait on getting a 5080.
I personally have a MSI Trio and love it, but the 5080 has been out for over a year at this point (launched Jan 2025). We’re 17 months in already…..We are right in that window where a Ti or Super refresh should be happening soon—even with the current rumors of delays and GDDR7 shortages, I'd still bet on Nvidia dropping some kind of mid-cycle refresh before we see the next actual generation.
Plus, I’m just not the type of person to buy a flagship card right before the next inevitable architecture shift anyway, especially since these cycles refresh every 18 to 24 months. If your current card is still a playable experience through games at 1440p, there's really no rush to spend $1,000+ right now.
I’d you absolutely have to, I’d personally wait until November and grab something on black Friday for a fat discount and possibly a cash back on credit offer potentially paying close to 40% of that msrp
Strange_Art_1476@reddit
4090 owner here - you're better off with a 4090 compared to a 5080
5080's only advantage over the 4090 is having MFG x4 and X6
4090 however has more VRAM and better performance
If you want to play games in 4k maxed out path tracing then you'll get a better performance out of the 4090
I know that MFG x4 and X6 sounds tempting but from what I can read it's not worth it if your base game isnt at 60fps to start with
Sure you'll be at 200+ FPS but if your base game is at 30 FPS MFG makes it blurry with bad response times
I've asked myself the question and honestly from a 4090 the only natural upgrade is a 5090 or the next generation of cards
Additionally if you plan on playing in 1080p or 1440p you're better off with the 5080 or even 5070TI since the 4090 is overkill
txlonghorn97@reddit
I have a 4090 that I used to game with but now rent for AI. I went with a 5080 to replace it and can’t tell the difference in performance even when playing Indiana. Go with the 5080.
tenariosm9@reddit
I went old card with lots of vram to ride out the storm (7900xt)
T2_daBest@reddit
If it's $1500 I would say money wise it's not worth it. The dlss and mfg are great and will keep it running longer but that price is steep. For $1000 it may be worth it but also I feel like if you get one you should overclock it because if not it's only a little faster than a 5070ti.
Noblesse2424@reddit
The upgrade from a 3080 to a 5080 is about 70-90% raw performance and over 200% with the new dlss tech and frame gen. Especially more so in 4k gaming.
Adagium721@reddit
So for 1060 owners, what do I upgrade to lol
Warskull@reddit
I'm of the opinion that the equivalent 50-series is worth it over the equivalent 40-series. Multi-frame generation is actually a big deal. It will be like DLSS upscaling where it goes from being a nice to have to a keystone feature. It will help you squeeze more life out of your GPU long term.
The 4090 is a different beast and in a class of its own. It has a ton of VRAM and so much more raw horsepower the 5080 doesn't compare. If you find a reasonably priced 4090 or 5090 they are immediate buys. However, I strongly doubt you will find either one for less than $3,000. Reasonably priced 4090s are like unicorns, they don't exist. You probably have better odds of getting a 6090 vis the founder's edition lottery.
So the question is, how long before you settle for a 5070 Ti or 5080?
clouds1337@reddit
?? Wait a year. Next Gen is around the corner.
InfiniteTerrorr@reddit
Just get a 5090 lol
burnitdwn@reddit
5070ti if you can find for MSRP is a good card and 90% as fast as a 5080.
9070xt if you dont care about framegen or dlss as they are a lot easier to find closer to the MSRP.
I dont understand paying a ton more money for a little bit more performance, i'd rather spend $600 for like 80% the performance of the $1200 option and then just buy a new card in like 5 years.
Exe0n@reddit
I'd take a 4090 over a 5080 just for the VRAM alone. 16GB of VRAM on a +1000$ card is criminal.
In my opinion the 5080 isn't future proof at all considering it's price point. But finding a good used 4090 may be a challenge in itself.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
It's all psycho scammers lol, it's been extremely difficult for anything under $1500 USD
sunkenwhalebones@reddit
I mean if you're only looking at 1500$ offers, of course you're only finding scammers. Actual price is 2000 and up.
SvenniSiggi@reddit
The 5080 is like the 5070. Not enough memory for the power.
It would need 24gb memory to fully use its capabilities, just like the 5070 would need 16 instead of its 12.
Its like having a ferrari on bald tires.
HEBushido@reddit
I have a 5080 and no game I've played in 4k has used enough VRAM for 16gb to be a problem. I'm sure I'll find one, but so far, no.
Exe0n@reddit
It's unlikely you'll find a game, but when you buy a high end card, generally you don't want to replace it next generation.
The next gen consoles are coming either in 2027 or 2028, every generation has known a good jump in GPU demands. While I'm confident the 5080 will be able to handle the performance, especially at 4k it's unlikely it'll handle the VRAM.
I bought a 9070 xt and I'm in the same boat, but I paid 590€ for mine, rather than 1200€ for a 5080.
The 5080 should have come with 20GB's, and many would have paid premium for it.
Morlu@reddit
2027 or 2028 is a long time in tech timeline. The ram shortages have delayed the next gen and just imagine the prices.
The best time to get a 5080/5070 was last year, the second best time is now.
HEBushido@reddit
I'm not disagreeing at all. I intended to get a 5070ti. But the price difference made the 5080 a better deal.
SvenniSiggi@reddit
Tried indiana Jones yet? :)
HEBushido@reddit
No I wasn't interested in it.
Low-Growth7342@reddit
Bro hasn't played city skylines 2 yet
HEBushido@reddit
No and I don't plan to. But I know sim games can use a lot.
lleyton05@reddit
Yea it’s a shame the super series got indefinitely postponed. The 5070 super sounds like the perfect card. Don’t get me wrong I love my 5070ti but man was it expensive
Appropriate_Study232@reddit
I went for the 4090. Yeah it’s mental money but for flying dcs in vr you can’t get better unless you go for 5090. I couldn’t be happier tbh
blazerMFT@reddit
I have a 5080, and what I'd advise is if you're even thinking about the 5080, just go with the 5070 Ti or go higher with 4090 or 5090.
Probably a controversial take but IMO the slight uplift of the 5080 over the 5070 Ti is not able to justify the price difference, and if VRAM is your concern, you're better off going the way of the XTX, 4090 or 5090 with XTX being the cheaper option (providing you're even open to a non-Nvidia feature set at all).
Morlu@reddit
The 5070ti has ceased production, a 5080 is only like $2-300 more. Definitely worth it at the “current” price points.
NefariousSINNER@reddit
You won't hunt down reasonably priced 4090, unless it's used and you get lucky. They aren't producing 4090 anymore.
5080 is a great gpu, but with current prices it is heavily overpriced. I consider it good purchase, but that's because I got my 5080 under MSRP. I look at people who paid 1800-1900 dollars for Astral and here's me who paid 930$ for Inno3D X3 OC variant.
I think whether 5080 can last up to 5 years is a question many of us are asking. It depends on nvidia. If 6000 series has 24gb of vram, then the 5080 is gonna get old a lot quicker. Personally, I believe it will last up to 3-4 years of high-fps high-setting gaming and then you will always need to use the MFG 4/6x. I think it will easily hold up to around 5 years.
It also depends on developers. Just look at state of some of the games being released this year heavily depending on the usage of MFG/DLSS. Being unable to produce sufficient optimisation is a plague that will haunt us possibly till end of times.
They make same looking games, but because they keep using newer engines like UE5, they just require better and better hardware. Funnily enough I don't think there's actually a game (except maybe like City Skylines or whatever) that can utilize 9800X3D fully. This CPU is actually the true goat of this generation. Cool, great performing gaming CPU.
In fact, I would focus on making sure you have Ryzen 9800X3D/9850X3D/9950X3D, the new "dual mode" I don't recommend. It's a 5% gain for a lot more money.
Morlu@reddit
The problem with the current GPU prices is that developers will be scaling back their graphically demands in future games. GPU’s are just very inaccessible right now for a majority of the population.
I doubt you’ll see many AAA being developed with 6080 specs in mind for a decade.
ArchusKanzaki@reddit
4090 is still better just because of the VRAM. You can honestly think of the entire 5000-series as more of 4000+ series for most part.
But if you don't have both, 5080 is reasonable compromise. But even then, don't feel the need to buy "the best" 5080.... Just buy one with reasonable price.
Morlu@reddit
This is a valid take. I definitely wouldn’t be upgrading if I had a 4090. But people saying it’s not worth it from a 30’s series card are just straight up lying.
Morlu@reddit
I wouldn’t be upgrading from a 4090 at all.
Random_Sime@reddit
Last 10 years? Consider the difference in performance and features between a GTX 1080 Ti and a RTX 5080. In 10 years you want to be that far behind?
pmgoldenretrievers@reddit
We're not all made of money. I kept my old rig from 2009 to 2020. Though to be fair, I did replace my GPU in ~2016 when it died.
Random_Sime@reddit
I'm respomding to OP and they clearly are made of money if they're debating between a 4090 and 5080. Your comment is irrelevant
stenmarkv@reddit
Idk man my buddy has had the 1080 since launch and it's still doing pretty well at medium settings most the time.
Random_Sime@reddit
Does OP seem like the kind of guy who wants "pretty well at medium settings"?
stenmarkv@reddit
I was speaking to the longevity of the card; not they they use a 1080.
Random_Sime@reddit
Yeah I know. We could expect a 5080 in the year 2036 to perform as well as a 1080 in the year 2026.
stenmarkv@reddit
Maybe; the potential is there depending on future applications of tech in the future. It would be awesome if it lasted that long doing that well though.
Lucario-Mega@reddit
4090 is more future proof tbf with that vram
LawfuI@reddit
10 years might be a stretch but the 5080 is probably going to be fine for 5 years
ConyNT@reddit
The 4090 is better due to the vram but nvidia has come up with a technology called neural texture compression which reduces vram usage by 85%, so 5080 may be fine for the future if this picks up.
Also, the 5080 has a lot of overclocking potential because the 5080 uses a slightly cut down version of the flagship silicon. The chips that make it into the 5080 tier are often very high quality silicon that was just a few cores short of being a 5090. That along with the over engineered cooling on many aib partner cards, make it a good choice for OC.
Happy-Inspector4031@reddit
I have the Asus tuf 5080, I came from a Asus Dual 5080. It was a game changer, I love this card. I'm glad I went for this card, I got it because I have a 1440p OLED and wanted to max out the refresh rate. In every game I've played, I've played max settings and its been great. Very smooth, looks phenomenal on like everything
simplefunction@reddit
4090 is more future-proof. Even now you can find games (indiana) where 16gb struggles.
The3rdGodKing@reddit
Is this 1440p? Anyway as soon as you assemble the PC it is outdated, in 3 years they are putting more efficient tech in a gpu or cpu.
Voldias@reddit
And Ohio too
SpaceGhost777666@reddit
You can never future proof your computer. What you can do is not give in to the need a new GPU every year or 3 years. If you buy the best GPU you can afford at the time your as future proof as you are going to get. Then it comes down to can you resist upgrading on a set time line of what I said previously.
When I build my system I have a 10year life span cooked in to the price. I do not buy a new GPU during that 10 years unless something comes up that I could not know at the time of build. Example the Blackwell cards for AI. So yes 6 years after my last build I purchased the Blackwell card for my main system to work with AI but the 3090 card is still in the machine as well.
Even today there are no games that my 3090 can not play.
tyrion83@reddit
Most of used 4090 are scams, be careful
Emergency_Present_83@reddit
future proofing is bait
pvm_april@reddit
I went from a 3080 to a 5070ti because from my research you could hit 5080 performance by tuning your 5070ti and they have the same VRAM amount. I actually bought my 5070ti, then returned it to micro center and repurchased it for $100 less and they gave me a game code for the new doom game on top as well. I’m happy with my purchase lol, works great at 4k
calscks@reddit
4090 IS future proof, I've been running with it since 2022 and what's its standing today? 2nd fastest gaming-focused GPU in the list.
However, you're not gonna find it anymore except for 2nd hand products, at an exorbitant price. In this case, the definition of "future proof" changes. You're better off grabbing a 5080.
1920x1440p@reddit
Ngl us 4090 owners are taking the reign similar to the 1080ti. This card is for sure on the throne
Milhala@reddit
The 5080 is a very underpowered card for the price, if you’re going to shell out over 1k for a card I’d be expecting the specs of a 4090
soulless_ape@reddit
I'll probably get downvoted for these comments
You can't do both things efficiently.
You need to pick a path otherwise you are winging it.
One the one hand, professionally you would pick a quadro card.
On the other you could pick a Geforce card and depending on the software you use, switch to the Studio driver when working.
Ill-Mastodon-8692@reddit
I have both, honestly a wash in most games for performance, 16gb vs 24gb also not a huge deal in games.
I do expect 50 series to get a tad longer driver and feature updates than 40 series.
imo if you waited this long, wait til 6080 or buy 5070ti if on sale for
Key-Koala-8259@reddit
4090 is better
yggdrasiliv@reddit
I feel like I'm going to be on my 3090 for a veeeeeeeery long time after reading these comments.
AceLamina@reddit
5090 isn't a gaming card, its for people who want to do home lab and run AI locally since that's what they did with 4090s
Its why it has 32gb of vram and priced very differently from the others
AceLamina@reddit
Just don't get it unless youre rich
lichtspieler@reddit
If my 4090-FE dies (or "melts") I will just use my old 3090-FE for the time beeing.
I for sure wont buy another >300W NVIDIA GPU without (per-Pin) load balancing.
The whole 4000 + 5000 series with PART CUTS for load balancing regulation and the gigantic shitshow it caused with the 12VHPWR situation is just off-putting.
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As far as "future-proofing" goes, my 3090-FE will most likely outlive most >300W 4000 and 5000 GPUs, because it still got per-(2)-Pin load balancing.
So there is that reality with the current GPU situation.
BingGongTing@reddit
5070 Ti or 5090, 5080 is the ugly duckling.
Sithishe@reddit
No, its not worth it.
Salisen@reddit
I suspect that with so much constraints on RAM prices driving GPU manufacturer business decisions towards cards with smaller than perhaps would be normal VRAM sizes (e.g. cancellation of the Super versions of the 5080 etc), I reckon the 16 GB will perhaps remain a decent headroom for longer than would perhaps be normal, as games will have to optimise towards minimising usage to match the available hardware in the market. I think also DLSS 4.5 is very good now... isn't much difference between running without it and running with, at least to me.
Due_Shelter_5033@reddit
Generally speaking, as the GPU gets more expensive, the price to performance gets worse. So you're better off buying a cheaper card every few years than buying an insanely expensive one for a longer period of time.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
So what you're saying is the 5080 over the 4090 right now?
SwordsAndElectrons@reddit
Look at benchmarks, preferably for applications that you use or ones very similar. Divide cost by performance and sort low to high. That's your cost per unit of performance.
It's usually mid-range cards that will have the best value, and if you are happy with the level of performance they offer then you will generally be better off in the long term buying the better value card now and then another good value card a generation or two from now than splurging on high end cards that have diminishing returns on your dollar.
Due_Shelter_5033@reddit
I haven't compared benchmarks so can't tell right now. But I know a 5080 is still bad value. For example it is over twice as expensive as a 5060 ti, but you don't nearly get twice the performance out of it.
_Rah@reddit
At 16GB 5080 isnt worth it if you can afford a 4090. Might as well save some money and get a 5070ti.
nikilization@reddit
there has never been a gpu that could play every game at max settings 10yrs after release. the 5080 will still be a heavy weight card in 3-4 years from now, which is 5 years after its release. the pace of innovation has slowed dramatically though, and i would consider a 2080 “viable” so i think if you have realistic expectations and can find one for a good price it’s a good card. or just get a 9070xt with the plan to replace it sooner
thewildblue77@reddit
I have a 5070ti, 5080, 4090 and 5090 amongst other cards. Id get either the 5070ti or the 5090...the 5080 feels like too much money for the small boost over the 5070ti and when in 4k and above doesnt have the performance of the 4090. I got an FE so lucked in on price and wanted a 2 slot card.
Incredadex@reddit
The 5080 has two 9th-gen NVENC encoders with AV1 support, and superior 4:2:2 chroma subsampling decoding. Just adding this as you are specifically mentioning video editing, that's why I went for it over a 5070TI
lemon07r@reddit
I had the option between a RTX 4080 and 5070 ti, the former was like 400 CAD cheaper, and I have 0 regrets. I was wondering if I would have any buyers remorse or regret it down the line; I wanted the 5070 ti over it if I could but I'm realizing now there's been no point in time since I got my new gpu where I went "gee I wish I got the 5070 ti instead" or "maybe I would have benefitted a little from the 5070 ti" here. Literally nothing. Your situation is an even easier call, in my case both had around the same performance, in your case the 4090 is faster and more vram. Get the 4090, unless the 5080 is cheaper by a good bit.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
They are really ultimaly about the same price on Kajiji/FB marketplace, the problem is that there is significantly less listings and the 4090 sellers are all schizo crackheads
lemon07r@reddit
Maybe try the hardware swap reddit for your region (canada in my case). I got a good deal on my 4090 through there. 950 CAD for a waterblocked one, from someone with a lot of verified trades. he lived close too, drove and picked it up.
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
I'm in Toronto, I will definitely check that out. Or wanna sell yours? 😉
lemon07r@reddit
I just got mine haha. Toronto is a good place to be, you'll find a lot of local sellers if you make a post on our sub asking for 4090.
hjshoon@reddit
a lot of people would love to future proof but realistically no one knows how tech will change in the next 5-10 years.. just buy the best you can afford, enjoy and be happy with it and when there's new shiny things that comes out, can always consider selling and upgrading. buy now enjoy now and consider the usage part of depreciation. at same time make sure to increase your earning so that when you want to upgrade, the cost wont be prohibitive or hard for you to swallow
martini1294@reddit
No the 4090 outperforms the 5080 in most games + all the extra VRAM
The 4090 is only beaten by the 5090
Also idgaf about DLSS crap. There hasn’t been a 4K game I can’t play natively as of yet. And I’ll be turning down graphics options for FPS before I use DLSS voluntarily
Responsible_Win9149@reddit
I had a 4090 and had to switch to a 5080. It sucks for the VRAM but in games I don't notice a difference. MFG is quite good now, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Opening_Evidence6360@reddit
I'd only consider a 5080/5090/4090 if you're playing 4k high fps native. If you're playing at 1440p or 4k with DLSS then you can get away with a 5070/5070 ti/9070 XT (FSR)
SushiBump@reddit
For gaming, the 5070Ti and 5080 will be great cards for a long time as long as you're not a snob about DLSS.
If you're video editing in Adobe: Get the 4090 over everything else. Get the 5070Ti over the 5080. Get the 5080 over the 9070xt or 7900xtx.
If you're video editing in Resolve: Get the 4090 over anything else. Get the 7900xtx over the 5080 and 5070Ti.
MoreRatzThanFatz@reddit
5080
DrThunder66@reddit
I bought a 5080 that came over clocked and it runs pretty much every thing I want in 4k. I have a 5700x3d which helps some. I rarely find my self needing to turn any settings down.
Justhe3guy@reddit
Buy whatever is in your budget
AdamCaveRoberts@reddit (OP)
Both the 4090 and the 5080 appear to be reasonably in the same budget range I see listed here in Canada, the issue is that the 4090 sellers are significantly more sketchy, that's why I may pivot to the 5080.
No-Actuator-6245@reddit
The 5080 typically overclocks really well and usually to the point of being within 0-2% of a 4090. My MSI 5080 Vanguard still runs very cool and near enough silent with a permanent overclock. Personally I have no interest in MFG which is the main addition over the 4090 and I would expect the extra VRAM of the 4090 to be more beneficial long term, especially 5+ years.
pmglory@reddit
I'm somehow convinced that yeah it's worth it. Actually, both GPU mentioned are worth it for future proofing.
Both will perform great. 4090 is stronger than 5080, but in the other hand, 5080 is newer and has potential updates support.
But to give you a tie breaker in my answer, here's what I think:
I just somehow think more VRAM means more reason for me to consider it as future proof. But I just decided to go with 5080 since it's what newer and nice to have, but I wouldn't disregard how powerful 4090 is. I think it will both perform well in the next half decade. I kinda just feel like 4090 is a bit old (2022 gpu), yet it still not a bad option to go with. As my preference, I always wanted to go with what's latest and new. Of course considering the performance.