CPU and mobo dont support win 11, upgrade or stay?
Posted by Electrical-Metal-180@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 51 comments
im using prime h270 plus and i5 7400.
is it bad to keep using win 10? will i get attacked out of nowhere?
Ok_Fan_1637@reddit
If you’re only gaming, Windows 10 is already good enough. Windows 11 has a lot of minor bugs and stupid AI features that Microsoft is trying to push onto users, like Copilot.
If you’re worried about viruses, just avoid downloading cracked games or unknown software from unsafe sources, and use Malwarebytes for protection.
nerotNS@reddit
It's not just about cracked software. There are tons of attack vectors that can be exploited and him to get exposed. Don't use Windows 10, it's not supported or secure. Use Windows 11 and a debloat script to remove the garbage and you'll be fine.
Normal_Idea4700@reddit
just because its unsupported does not mean its less secure.
nerotNS@reddit
It literally does. It not being supported means that it's not getting security updates. Meaning that any and all vulnerabilities discovered post-EOL are not patched and are a gaping hole in the security landscape of the OS.
amabamab@reddit
Linux enters chat
Nosferatu_V@reddit
It's "okay" to keep using windows 10 for a while. Once security updates stop, you don't immediately get attacked because usually bad actors take some time to find out new exploits. When the OS was being patched, updates would come out at close to the same rate as the exploits became known. That way, threats were limited. Now that security updates stopped, the OS will become riskier and riskier to use over the years.
And although it's a risk for everybody using it, it's not the same level of risk for every individual. Odds are you aren't a political or public figure, so it's not like hackers will actively target you, specifically. Just mind that leaving sensitive stuff on your computer might not be the best idea from now on. And even on the internet, although Browsers have their own security features, they rely on the OS as well for security, so even if you try and put your data on the cloud, it's not a guarantee.
The thing is that now most developers will phase out updates for a "dead" OS, so you might get stuck with older versions of professional programs and drivers that too will not have new security patches and so. The biggest threat will be if you connect through the internet via public networks or download a lot of stuff from the internet, particularly if you sail the high seas.
It's not a death sentence and your computer won't self combust (take for example the many factories still relying to Windows XP for their software), but keep in mind that especially things on the internet will become increasingly riskier, so consider not saving your passwords and banking info in this computer.
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
shit…i wanna upgrade my pc but just not at this moment, maybe next year
I do sail the high sea for movies…does antivirus or malwarebyte, ads block dont help mitigate the ”window security” problem?
Nosferatu_V@reddit
You can install Linux on the meantime and try out the alleged performance gains of using a lighter OS
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
I just watch a video abt linux, i dont code lol. Beside that, i cant code a security upgrade for myself
Normal_Idea4700@reddit
this is the reason why linux has a 5% world marketshare
insufferable__pedant@reddit
You don't need to know how to write code to use Linux. Mint is incredibly user friendly, and while it's beneficial to learn how to use the terminal (command line), I used it for years without ever having to open the terminal.
That being said, creating a Windows 11 install with Rufus is dead simple. Just Google it. You literally just click a few options and then click the button to create your install media.
Nosferatu_V@reddit
I second both recommendations. Learning a new OS is a nice skill, plus Mint is really nice for beginners, and also you can bypass Windows 11's requirements easily with Rufus
M_Me_Meteo@reddit
Linux. Just do it. It's fine. You'll be fine.
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
can you explain further? is this a new type of OS? legitimate and a corporation is backing them up like Microsoft?
Plebius-Maximus@reddit
In a word, no.
It's perfectly legitimate, but it's open source, and there are tens of different versions (distros) all maintained by different people/groups. Linux is far less plug and play than Windows.
Also if you don't have much experience tinkering with or reinstalling windows, I wouldn't recommend using Linux for your primary OS at all. Linux fanboys will get angry at me for saying this, but I'm right.
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
I dont even know how to code, not for me then
Normal_Idea4700@reddit
you dont need to code bro, you just need a usb, and click install while in liveboot
nerotNS@reddit
Yeah don't do this. If you're not tech savvy (and I'd say you're not based on your comments) Linux is definitely not for you. Just use Rufus to disable the requirements for Windows and you're good to go. Nobody will check on you for this and nobody will care about it, nothing to fear.
Posraman@reddit
Based off his comments, I don't think OP would be able to use Rufus. I don't mean any offense by that, but for some people that's too much, even with a YouTube tutorial.
OP if you have a tech savvy friend maybe they can assist you?
baris6002@reddit
Intel, AMD, Google, Meta, IBM, Valve etc. actually these are just the some of the biggest companies that are the backers of Linux kernel, many more individuals, organizations, nonprofits and companies back Linux due to its open source nature
physicsMathematics@reddit
It is a legitimate type of os, very NOT new, it has a lot of distros (different kinds running on the same base code), some are backed by corporations (like red hat and steamOS) which might not be that much of a positive thing (eg. Microsoft enshitifying windows for years now), most are backed by a community of enthusiasts.
The recommendation of "mint" is a recommendation of a very good, common and stable disrto of linux which has an added benefit for transitioning from windows that it has a windows like feel and experience.
A lot of years ago, for my time at uni, I got gifted a very old laptop which had trouble running windows 7 because it was too old, I installed a linux distro called Ubunto and that laptop managed to live and work for another 5 years.
DocBullseye@reddit
Give Linux Mint a try, it's pretty easy to set up and use. Cinnamon desktop is similar to Windows without all the AI crap.
Normal_Idea4700@reddit
and if you are more of a power user then cachy-os is the way to go
Normal_Idea4700@reddit
dont even bother touching windows 11 with their id verification and "User Choice Prevention Driver" aka UCPD or simply the registry police
baruffa1223@reddit
You can easily install windows 11 on that. Use Rufus to flash a USB stick and you'll have options to disable the tpm checks
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
im not too good with this. Also what happen if they find out or just patch it, im scared the mobo is just dead
VaultBoy636@reddit
They can't kill your motherboard, the absolute worst that could happen is microsoft denying you updates, which they threatened but didn't do. It's very simple to install windows 11 with rufus
2raysdiver@reddit
This OP. I just did this with a PC with a i7-6700K.
This video will show you how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQG7PVsvV9I
the_Athereon@reddit
Literally nothing will happen. It won't damage anything and Microsoft won't even care.
Sea_Perspective6891@reddit
Yes exactly. Did the very same to an old mini PC I referbished. Had TPM 1.2 & a 6th gen i7. Installed just fine & works well with a local account even better after getting rid of all the Microsoft bloat. The Windows 11 system requirements are pure weapons grade balonium.
the_Athereon@reddit
Actually that motherboard and CPU DO support TPM 2.0, the issue is purely the CPU being a 7th gen chip.
Using Rufus to bypass the requirements will obviously work, but best to make sure Intel PTT is enabled in Bios before install so modern anti-cheat will function.
dsinsti@reddit
Was on the same boat, got a brand new amazon r5 3600 for 48€ and a b550M gigabyte aorus elite mobo for 70€ and forgot about this shit while noticing a massive speed upgrade reusing ram ,ssd and every other part. Cheapest best upgrade ever.
iceseayoupee@reddit
Stay on Win10. Win11 is sooooo disappointing given the recent updates
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
at least you guys are getting updates 😭
Ozi-reddit@reddit
LTSC IoT '21 has support til '32
Hrmerder@reddit
Linux is the way. Support is there and I your hardware will stay relevant for much longer.
Isotope_Junkie@reddit
Upgrade. Since you already have the DDR4 RAM option available with you, you won't be at loss.
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
if i were to upgrade, it will be mobo, gpu, cpu and psu all together to avoid bottleneck, but its expensive af
Isotope_Junkie@reddit
If you are going for a discret GPU then it will obviously cost you now, given the drought we are going through. But hey, you always have the used components option. If you can tell me the requirement of your system then I can recommend you something.
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
Gaming
Isotope_Junkie@reddit
I'd say you can get a B450 board (one with a higher number of power phases, such as ASRock's B450M Pro4 R2.0). Get a Ryzen 5600 or 5600x. But do make sure that you buy a GOOD PSU which has a higher hold-up time value. I always recommend Super Flower PSUs (not sponsoring for them).
How much RAM do you have? Which GPU do you use currently?
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
16gb. 1050ti. Its ancient
Isotope_Junkie@reddit
Then just upgrade to a RTX 3060 12GB (fantastic card) or a RTX 2060 Super (great but has got 8GB VRAM).
IANVS@reddit
If you don't have a special reason to use Win 11 (I won't, no matter what), check out Win 10 LTSC 2021 IoT.
HellDr1v3r888@reddit
there was a paid option of like 30 bucks or something to provide you with security updates till the end of 2026 I think? However, it depends what you do with your PC. If it's strictly gaming, you don't have much to worry about. Just make sure you are not doing dodgy stuff, making sure you are not clicking weird links on your email on your PC. So you should be ok with Win10 provided you know how to navigate the internet and emails
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
im not playing that lol. Nah, i just play games. But when it says win 10 will be more vulnerable than win 11. does that mean if doing something that will cause virus, win 11 user will get protected while win 10 dont?
lichtspieler@reddit
New exploits and vulnerabilities are found all the time and its a constant battle with fixes against them.
If your PC is online, you should use a windows version with security updates:
HellDr1v3r888@reddit
Just trying to help hahah. But no, not necessarily. If you are just playing games, you will be fine. There has been some weird shit were someone can hack your PC while playing, was it Bloodbourne or Elden Ring? if they invade you they can install some files on your PC? but I wouldn't worry about it if you are just gaming. Sure there is always more protection with Win11, but people get hacked when they do some weird shit.
You can also help it by installing a VPN and running it all the time while your PC is on? Not sure how effective that will be
Electrical-Metal-180@reddit (OP)
I do play online game a lot since this old ass pc cant handle newer AAA games
OneEyedC4t@reddit
more like Linux
farrellart@reddit
If you stay away from dodgy sites and software you'll be fine with win10.....the internet won't get you if you do this.