Engine with EGWR (exhaust gas water recirculation)
Posted by Ben-Goldberg@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 5 comments
When you burn a pound of diesel or gasoline, you create approximately a pound of water vapor.
This crazy idea is to cool some or all of the exhaust of a car or truck to condense a decent fraction of the water produced.
This water would then be used for old fashioned water injection, or, more crazily, so the engine can operate with six stroke (crower) cycle.
Water injection can reduce nitrous oxide emissions, and, in diesels, reduce particulates.
A six stroke cycle alternates back and forth between a four stroke otto/diesel cycle and a two stroke steam expansion/steam exhaust cycle - water is sprayed/injected into the cylinder at the beginning of the fifth stroke, absorbs heat from the valves and cylinder walls, and becomes high pressure steam.
AmpEater@reddit
Condensing the steam takes as much energy as expanding the water makes.
Sure, you can condense the exhaust with air. But that’s not free. You’ll need a ton of heat exchanger area to get exhaust below 212*f
That drag isn’t trivial
What’s easier - skip all the burning stuff bullshit. Use nice, solid state energy storage and focus on low drag vehicle dynamics
Nate_Christ@reddit
Solid state energy storage is nice, but they still get energy from burning stuff. I would love to see the switch to ethanol like Brazil did back in the day. It's compatible with gas engines and clean as the morning air, plus even more water to collect and slow your car down. Also it would still make noise, you ever accidentally walk infront of a silent car? They should put a bell on those things
Ben-Goldberg@reddit (OP)
Besides reducing peak combustion temperature (which is what reduces NoX), water injection lowers the exhaust temperature by between 150 and 200 F.
That means you only need to reduce the temp by 50 to 350 F.
Also, if we are using direct injection for the water*, and high pressure tubing, we can use pre-cool the exhaust by using it to heat the water.
*Why would you want to spray in hot water (instead of cold), you ask? The answer is for a more powerful steam cycle.
Nate_Christ@reddit
You lost me at crower cycle. This sounds neat though
Ben-Goldberg@reddit (OP)
The crower cycle is a way for an engine to act as a steam engine without a boiler.
It also lets the engine continue to work as a 4 stroke internal combustion engine.