Any ideas on what to do with these?
Posted by RedBeardMoto@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 41 comments
I’ve got 10 plastic .308 rounds. Live rounds, this one has a slightly dented primer
SodiumEnjoyer@reddit
Just a heads up about these in case you don't know: the primers are usually pretty hard/offset in a way to where you're likely gonna experience several trigger pulls without a bang. You'll have a dented primer at that point and can either keep loading them in your bolt gun (only shoot these in a bolt gun) or toss them. Also, the accuracy is generously described as about 5 MOA, I find it closer to 10 with my somewhat nice bolt gun so who knows. Your effective range at any measurable accuracy should try to be kept within 50 yards, it can go to 100 and beyond but you're really pushing it. They're cheap and fun, no recoil and fairly quiet, and would probably leave some funny results on fruits and harder targets, but they're little more than a gimmick unless you get lucky with a rifle that can throw them down range accurately (my buddy's half-century older bolt gun gets groups half my size with irons than I do with a scope, go figure)
Franticalmond2@reddit
You can shoot these out of anything you want lol. No reason it has to be limited to bolt guns.
SodiumEnjoyer@reddit
Good luck getting them to cycle
Franticalmond2@reddit
You just manually cycle them if you’re using something that’s not a G3 with the training bolt. It’s not like it’s a big deal. Buddies and I shot some out of a SCAR once.
SodiumEnjoyer@reddit
Fair, I guess it's a matter of preference then
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
Hell yeah that’s great info. I had no experience with them, so it’s good to know about potential primer issues, and also the accuracy situation. It’ll be fun to hear what they sound like suppressed.
SodiumEnjoyer@reddit
I never got to shoot them with a can but I'd imagine somewhere between an airsoft gun and a church mouse's fart would be the dB count. They're lots of fun but I just didn't want you to get mislead by the "training round" title they're grouped with, since it was a very specific use case when they were made and accuracy wasn't one of them lol
Equivalent-Region895@reddit
I shot some out of my FAL and they went off fine. Just had to manually cycle the bolt. The seemed fairly accurate too.
ObsidianOne@reddit
How unfortunate it’d be to think these were snap caps and let one rip…
Franticalmond2@reddit
They are LOUD out of a G3 with the training bolt.
SmallYerrow@reddit
I had a few boxes of these and they wouldn’t fire in my rifles. Primer strikes like yours only but no bang sadly.
Theworker82@reddit
They will evaporate an orange without putting a hole in the paper target behind it.
Electronic_Camera251@reddit
They are wonderful for fairly close up small game
smallmonzter@reddit
But probably don’t for real.
BeefCurl@reddit
Where did you get these, they look like training rounds
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
Buddy said they fell off a truck ;)
Eastern_Control4375@reddit
Is buddy ok?? They didnt fell on his leg?? Did they?? Hahah
smokeypokey12@reddit
Neat
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
Jokes aside, I have no idea where he got them
Cmonster9@reddit
Yes they are7.62x51 German Short Range training rounds
noderaser@reddit
I bought a case a while ago, I see that SGammo still has some in stock.
Great-Brief-4672@reddit
Go get a large fruit (melon) and shoot it.
Scipio2myLou@reddit
Just be sure to yell FINISH HIM first
Franticalmond2@reddit
Shoot them?
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
At what? If I’m gonna do it, I wanna do it with joy
Scipio2myLou@reddit
Then tell Joy to get her ass out to the range already
CodenameDinkleburg@reddit
You have 10 of them, so maybe 10 different targets, or 5 targets with 2 shots each.
Franticalmond2@reddit
Just blast them at some paper.
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
May throw up my garmin and see what kind of velocity they have
Franticalmond2@reddit
They’re over 4,000 FPS.
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
Whoa I had no idea. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it
chauchatbob@reddit
They go through windshields and most car doors as well.
Kusotare421@reddit
Hm I always thought engine blocks were the standard measure of bullet power. /s
4crom@reddit
Gender reveal?
ASnakeNamedNate@reddit
Just in case their looks are deceiving, you shoot these as though you were shooting regular live rounds. (They’re not force on force rounds, or anything THAT fun).
RedBeardMoto@reddit (OP)
What is the primary function of them? I understand blue = training (typically), but from what everyone is saying, these have serious speed and impact capabilities, just limited range. Is that the reason? Something that can still be viable close range but not further out?
gunsforevery1@reddit
They are short range training rounds. When you don’t have access to a full size range or using them indoors, these were used.
ASnakeNamedNate@reddit
They’re supposed to be used, with a series of part changes for reliable firing and cycling, for whatever training purpose you’d use live ammunition for as a military. Shooting and handling fundamentals mostly, I imagine: better than dry fire. They’re mostly old surplus from Europe, for G3 rifles IIRC.
That’s why people will say to use them in a bolt gun (since there’s no cycling involved, just have to worry about primer strikes in that case).
gunsforevery1@reddit
Shoot them.
SilverbackSurfer99@reddit
Are they plastic or polymer? Plastic is for training so only light penetratiom up to 50 yards. Polymer are basically real live rounds comparable to a standard 308 round but 30% lighter.
Then-Many-4975@reddit
I have the G3 conversion bolt for my Cetme… shooting this stuff is a hoot