If this isn't extortion...

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scubaorbit@reddit

Easy, just don't pay until the morning.

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worst part is they act like theyre doing you favor by even letting you deliver their stuff. had similar bs at few warehouses where they make you wait all day then hit you with detention fees or some random charge. these places know drivers are stuck once youre in line so they pull whatever they want. plus good luck finding anywhere decent to park after being there whole day - everything within 50 miles probably full by then

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toruk_makto1@reddit

And they charge a convenience fee

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Plus broken pallets fee, that THEY break...

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

What makes it worst, is that the shipper has the option of prepayment, avoiding half of this completely. As for the receiver holding us there to count the load we had ZERO hand in loading and seal completely intact. We are held up to either get a "yep its all here, oh your short, or we damaged this while unloading you dispose of it". THAT is by far the 90% of why we cant get consistent checks that very when delivering to these types of receivers.

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driver004@reddit

Last time they tried that on me I disposed of it surrounding a fire hydrant then called the fire marshal. Know it worked to because a FD truck was coming in as I was leaving

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Unfortunately company drivers have to tell os&d, incase they want to send it to a food bank, if carrying food. If it were up to me, id dump it all at the dock...

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driver004@reddit

Not the common experience, I started as a food based company driver

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

I bet they'd kick you out naked if it was legal

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howaboutclark@reddit

As far as east coast goes…. Anyone been to Wakefern ShopRite DC center in keasbey nj? Enough to make you smack your mother

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Main_Section_1641@reddit

Been to that Wakefern a few times. They suck for sure. But Capstone is still the undisputed champ of shitty as receivers.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

This was California, but you are heard

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howaboutclark@reddit

Aww I know homie I was just sharing my word for the shittiest areas on the east coast

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CrashingTiger@reddit

i'll never understand how this became a thing. Thanks for bringing us our product, now you get to pay us to unload it!

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1WontHave1t@reddit

It came about as a way to have a third party reject damaged product so the receiver cant claim its damaged and its already unloaded and truck is gone so they dont want to pay full price or at all for the product. The third party is supposed to be an impartial party and that is still the case but companies have figured out that they can have less staff by using a lumper service for even warehouse work so the lumper charges more for the unloading since they cover more work for the warehouse and they know they have trucking companies and drivers by the balls so they charge what they think they can get away with.

If your are getting unloaded by a lumper you need to be reimbursed by the customer. This isnt not something that should be negotiable. If the customer wants their product they will pay for it otherwise they are getting charged for it to be returned to sender. Yes it sucks but thats the only way you will combat this without government regulation.

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socialrage@reddit

It use to be very common for the driver to do it.

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xoutlawtrucker@reddit

Most places do give you that option. But driver assist pay isnt enough. If they pay me the ransom that Capstone gets I would do it with a smile.

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lildobe@reddit

Most of the places I delivered to that used a lumper service specifically PROHIBITED the driver from going on the dock, or bringing in their own lumpers.

You had to use theirs, and you HAD to pay their exorbitant prices. It's a goddamn extortion racket

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xoutlawtrucker@reddit

Its been a long time. I specifically tell my dispatcher no food/produce ever, unless they throw a lizard in for the ride or the rate is $3+, so no produce for me

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Capt_Cyral@reddit

Their just making sure they can pay the detention fees along with making a profit... it really IS extortion...

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WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit

I have watched the decline of trucking since the 80's and you guys keep putting up with more and more and more of this. this is why dry freight or refers suck for pay. if a receiver did this back when i was trucking the entire load would have been dumped in front of the dock including anything they refused. why? because we were paid to haul that there. paying for dock workers? thats on the receiver. why do you guys keep allowing these companies to keep charging you to the point you are broke? click the not my payment button and be done. if they dont like it, just start shoving the load out the back in front of the dock. this has been a long gradual decline since the JB hunt business model has put allot of people out of work and before some of you blah blah blah just know we used to make between 100,000k - 150,000k a year before all this stuff started.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

We dont put up with decreasing income... we dont know...

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WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit

you dont? why are you not making at least 100,000K a year? why are you letting them charge you for labor when they are already on the receivers payroll? why are you putting up with being on duty on a dock for 8 hrs and not charging them for your time?

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

I started in mid 2010s, If I had a trucker in my family... id would of seriously thought about doing this... you cant down vote for people trying to keep the industry going... who would get your products from over there to your local store...

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WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit

Do what? the way things are going AI will delivery stuff. and did i vote you down? no? i am not saying you made a bad choice being a trucker. its a noble choice of employment. but i will stand by my first comment about how this industry has gone down hill. and continues to go that way. it's up to you people out there working this industry that need to start saying no.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Understood, someone voted me down, and if ai does take our place... ill be long gone to care...

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WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit

seriously, i feel bad for you guys out there. this used to be a protected industry but slowly since late 70s and early 80s its been slowly turned into what we have now. and you guys are the ones that get screwed.

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backbiter0723@reddit

I'll never understand how a truck driver is paid maybe $300 to drive for 10+ hours and 500-700 miles for a load that the forklift operator is then paid $500 to unload in 2 hours.

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Thegrandestpoo@reddit

Fuck Capstone. Everywhere I’ve been that they have molested me, they wouldn’t even give me the option to unload their own shit. One reason among many why I sold my truck.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Heard and understood

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Defiant-Medicine3014@reddit

Had 685.02 today after waiting 6 hours to be unloaded and getting an 1100 miles fed ex run taken from me bc of it. Went in and sarcastically said “I’m in the wrong line of work, almost 700 dollars and you slow mfs milked it for 6 hours” dude awkwardly laughed

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Understood, but add on being told to move to a new door... twice...😒

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tvieno@reddit

Forward the bill to the shipper. If it's their freight, then they pay for the unload.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

This is what company's do but its still the fact we are wasting our time sitting at a door instead of picking up the next load...

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driver004@reddit

That’s why lumper fee reimbursement is in my contract, even then I avoid as best I can anywhere that even might have capstone

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

And then they send you a one minute survey on how your kidnapping was... I forgot about that...🙄

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Typical-Decision-273@reddit

Inform them they forgot the foreplay ballgag and lube

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

Lol... more xy please

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Creative_Shame3856@reddit

Lumpers, and the whole accursed idea of having those troglodyte parasites in the first place, are half of why I threw in the towel after 20 years. Fuck Capstone with 27 feet of curare tipped wrought iron fence and no lube.

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GenX_Leo@reddit (OP)

I hear you man... im right behind you...

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