How do high schools work in tiny towns?
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Hi! How do small towns (with populations between 100 and 1,000) handle the full K-12 grade range? If a local high school exists in these not so large or even tiny communities, or if students must travel to a larger town, board there or study online to prepare for university. How much does this situation vary from state to state?
It would also be interesting to know:
How many students are typically in a graduating class? Is it common to combine different grade levels in the same classroom?
In a small school, can there really be a separate teacher for every subject (physics, chemistry, history, etc.)? Or is it common for one teacher to cover multiple subjects? How are they qualified to do that?
riarws@reddit
Sometimes they combine a few small towns into a bigger high school.
AdventurousRope6830@reddit
Yup. They call them "consolidated school districts" here in Northern Ohio. Pretty common when you get out in more rural parts of the state.
sharpshooter999@reddit
Same here in Nebraska. Lots of schools with "Central" in their name because every little town goes to one central school
kibbeuneom@reddit
Beautiful Nebraska, peaceful prairie land
ElijahNSRose@reddit
In Kansas they're called unified school districts
RsonW@reddit
"Union" in California.
I went to Nevada Union High School: serving Grass Valley, Nevada City, Rough and Ready, Penn Valley, Cedar Ridge, Washington, North San Juan, Chicago Park, and You Bet.
CatOfGrey@reddit
"_______ Union School District" in Southern California.
Dangerous-Safe-4336@reddit
"_ Unified School District" in Northern California. Same idea.
Seems the smallest towns only have schools up to 8th grade or so, with the students traveling to a centralized high school.
a13xis_@reddit
In southern Ohio we had some consolidate districts but they were more county schools. And in the Cincinnati area, they just has small districts. Like I went to a school, Lockland, that was k-12 on one campus and each grade has less than 30 kids in it.
Fun-atParties@reddit
I think there's one county in SE Ohio that has one school for the whole county and at least one county that only has 2 (And they've considered further consolidating into one school for the whole county)
It's the only way to make it viable but it's not great for the kids because some of them are riding the bus for over an hour each way. Even when combining such a large area, graduating classes were smaller than 100 students and that makes it difficult to offer much in the way of AP classes for example
tangouniform2020@reddit
Texan, same thing. There are “independent” school districts, usually city focused (Austin Indepenent School District, which also incoroprates parts of Travis county, as do the other ISDs) and county school districts, for large unincorporated areas or small towns (A&M Consolodated or Hayes Consolodated)
big_sugi@reddit
A&M Consolidated is in College Station, Texas. The school opened in 1920, when College Station was little more than the train station for Texas A&M, a tiny little cow college.
Nowadays, College Station has 150,000 residents in addition to the 80,000 students at A&M, so it’s no longer a small town.
ArchonOfErebus@reddit
Ayo a fellow Ohioan. Yeah, theres quite a few of those around where I live. Full k-12 schools often detached from any town specifically.
CarelessCreamPie@reddit
I've also seen some very remote towns (like on an island off the coast) do K-12 all in one building. The graduating classes are usually <100.
rebby2000@reddit
Yup, I have a couple cousins who were from a very, very small town (they had like 3 stores in town and one was part of the post office), and they combined with 3 other towns of about the same size. Even with 3 towns their graduating classes were all less than 20 people and the entire k-12 was in the same building.
02K30C1@reddit
Macinac Island in Michigan is like that. The high school has about 6 students per grade level.
shadowmib@reddit
I assume the teachers probably teach multiple grades as well? For example, having one math teacher that teaches k-6 and another one that teaches 7-12 or something like that?
Ok-Height1308@reddit
I went to a school like that, teachers taught multiple subjects but the whole class went through the same math and likes, LA material at once.
neddiddley@reddit
Yes, in smaller schools/districts, it’s common for teachers to teach multiple grades. It’s also fairly common for very specialized teachers to split time between two schools where they’ll spend the morning at one and travel to the other for the afternoon if neither school has the enrollment to justify having that type of teacher there full time.
Even in my high school which was graduated about 160 and was limited to grades 10-12, it was pretty common for teachers to teach all three grades. You might have one math teacher that taught the more advanced courses/students and another that taught the middle tier.
EatLard@reddit
My dad was THE science teacher for a small town’s high school and jr. high. He had to prep lesson plans and lab projects for ten different classes every year. Only did that a few years in his early 20s before he noped out of that profession.
Adorable-Growth-6551@reddit
Well the k-5 probably do not have a designated math teacher, they just have their class teacher.
The school then has a math teacher that teaches 6-12
Useful-Touch-9004@reddit
in my elementary school, we had separate math/science/writing/literature teachers for 5th and 6th grade, but your homeroom teacher would teach the rest of the subjects.
kmoonster@reddit
That scenario is less common for public schools, but it is fairly common for private schools.
Sometimes you may have several grades per classroom, but just as often the teachers will trade out.
The second grade reading and writing sessions should only have 10-20 students per teacher, which is a trick if you have 40 second graders. But if you send 20 kids to gym class and 20 to writing, that's manageable. Then you would switch the two groups so all the students do all the things.
And if you combine gym class with all the lower grades you can do quite a bit. If your gym class is 20 Second-graders and 20 First graders, then three teachers can do the work of four even if it means gym class is 40 six-year-olds. Then you can have one first grade teacher and one second grade teacher instead of two of each, plus a general teacher who handles the larger group activities like lunch, recess, gym, and maybe even a music or choir class (depending on the school).
If the same gym teacher then does 3rd and 4th grade gym at a different day-part, you can have five teachers instead of eight. (One per grade plus one general, instead of two per grade).
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And sometimes schools DO put several grades under one teacher in one classroom but that's a next-level skillset for the teachers I won't go into here..
iampatmanbeyond@reddit
Multiple subjects too. My math teacher was also my English teacher and my history teacher also taught science
Emergency-Salamander@reddit
Put-In-Bay in Lake Erie has a school district too.
https://putinbayschools.com/district/
sluttypidge@reddit
My mom graduated in a combined district of 3 town. 23 graduates.
Dry-Huckleberry-1984@reddit
Went to a small school in upstate NY in the 90s. My graduating class was a large one at I think 50 or 60 students? Most were less than that and I think now they are down to sometimes only 20 or 30 per class year. In elementary we had 1 teacher per 15-20 students (so my class had 3 teachers for kindergarten , 3 first grade etc) until 5th grade when we had our main teacher, but then rotated to one of 2 other teachers for certain subjects. Once we hit middle school the teachers typically were assigned the equivalent of 1-2 grade levels worth of subjects (so one may teach multiple periods of earth science and biology, another may teach English 10 and 12).
We had 1 music teacher for the elementary and 1 for the middle/high school and it was the same for art. We used to have separate teachers for French and Spanish, but I believe they are combined now.
In some nearby districts they had multiple elementary/middle schools but they combined into a larger high school.
sharpshooter999@reddit
Rural Nebraska here. The year i graduated, our school had 75 students in 7-12. My class had 14. That was from a pool of about 7 towns with populations ranging from 350 to 22
Scav-STALKER@reddit
My graduating class was less than 40 lol
TheSkiGeek@reddit
Yeah, 100 per graduating class is into “small/medium sized town” territory. A really rural area might have like… 100 grade school kids total.
pacifistpotatoes@reddit
The town we live near says about 2300 for population. My daughters class is 120 kids, which is a lot higher than other classes, usually around 90. They actually added a teacher to the grade school for her class because there were too many kids per teacher and they didnt want education level to drop. I consider that pretty small too, even though there are other towns nearby with smaller schools.
TheSkiGeek@reddit
That seems like it can’t be right given that K-12 age kids are usually about 15% of the population. There are ~1000+ primary school students in a town of 2300?
pacifistpotatoes@reddit
Ugh I'm an idiot. It's been about 8 years so was just going by memory! Her class was 90 kids which was large. Our dist likes to keep class sizes about 60-75. That makes more sense
tangouniform2020@reddit
My graduating class was less than 600. I kind of envy you
Cyber_Punk_87@reddit
There’s a school near me in Vermont that’s K-12. Not sure exactly how many students attend now, but in the 90s it was around 400 total in all grades. The upside is that certain resources could be shared: gym, cafeteria, auditorium, computer lab, library, etc.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
That's nothing. Monhegan Island, off the coast of Maine, has one school that serves 4-6 students per year. They have one teacher and only go up to 8th grade. The students have to go to the mainland for high school, and they usually board there.
Different-Post-5569@reddit
What I did in a rural Iowan town of \~2500. K-12 all in the sample building, my graduating class was about 48 people.
goldjade13@reddit
Lol I was thinking more like <15. I'm from Maine and most high schools are less than 100. Just googled and 85 students is average. School next to mine had 48 kids in k-8 (all together!). 85 kids would've been huge.
iampatmanbeyond@reddit
I went to a consolidated school with half of one county and most of another. It was just one long halway with fire doors separating the levels
Gecko23@reddit
We’ve still got a couple of tiny districts in our area (rural Ohio). Overall classes so small that they can’t field a full baseball/football team some years. :)
yellowdogs-2@reddit
My folks are retired on a small island off the coast of Maine. The school has around 60 students for Pre-K through 12th grade. There is one school house that has a classroom for every 2 grades, a library, art room, a large gymnasium, which is also used by the community and a lunchroom. There are between 1 to 6 kids per grade. Each teacher teaches all subjects except for high school where they do take them online classes in addition to in person teaching. Older students from upper grades, mentor and help the younger students. There’s a very strong community feel.
My dad was a computer science teacher before retiring and when he got to the island begin teaching computer science courses to all grades and math courses to the high school grades. He recently passed away and no one has taken over those roles unfortunately. The kids do well in school and tends to get into the colleges of their choice.
Aggressive_Ad_5454@reddit
Islesboro? I know a very accomplished college student who commuted on the ferry from the mainland to Isleboro for high school.
Virtual_Win4076@reddit
Humans living in small groups, the way it was meant to be.
thewags05@reddit
100 definitely isn't small by rural standards. Where I live it's often 20-30. It's a consolidated district, but about half the students end up going to one of the tech schools in the area by high school.
Western-Willow-9496@reddit
I group up an hour from a major midwestern city, went to a K-12. The average class was around 35.
casapantalones@reddit
My high school was this way; kids from several smaller towns attended one massive high school.
kirstynloftus@reddit
Yup, I grew up in one of the few small towns in NJ, even shared a zip code with several other towns, and my high school had students from four different towns. 100 students per grade is justifiable enough for elementary or middle school, harder when it’s high school
OJSimpsons@reddit
Yeah, I remember like 4 or 5 elementarys going to a big middle school, and then some got split up to different high school based on location, but another middle filled in most of it.
-Boston-Terrier-@reddit
I went to college with a guy who was one of the 27 students who graduated Ellicottville in 2001. I believe the whole district was one building, K-12, and served 6 different towns - Ellicottville, Great Valley, Mansfield, Humphrey, East Otto, and Franklinville.
I always thought that was crazy. 6 towns and only 27 students combined? I graduated with almost 500 students and my class was notoriously small.
I just looked it up and last year they graduated 40 so there's been a population boom!
RsonW@reddit
My mom was part of a graduating class of 5.
-Boston-Terrier-@reddit
Super random but did she have a prom?
savguy6@reddit
This. Usually they’ll just have one giant school for the county.
And for some reason usually those school are powerhouses in high school football. 🤷♂️
Gaybeanuwu@reddit
yeah I went to a regional school of 6 towns ranging from 300-2000 people each. My graduating class was 44 people (because people also attend local vocational schools instead).
we used to have 4 elementary schools, but as of like 15 years ago, we have 2 (serving 3 towns each). Then starting in 6th grade, all students attend the combined middle/high school.
chtrace@reddit
I went to a "Consolidated High School" in Texas made from 3 small towns. The towns kept the elementary and Jr high in their respective towns but we all went to the 1 high school.
bass679@reddit
Yeah I went to a decently sized school 400 per grade but we were roughly half the county. I had a college friend who went to a k through 12 school with only 400 total though.
DrywallAnchor@reddit
In Dare County, all 6-12 south of Oregon Inlet go to the same secondary school. On Ocracoke Island, K-12 students go to one school.
HedonismIsTheWay@reddit
And some of the smaller towns may have just an elementary school, then send kids to the larger school in the bigger town after they finish the maximum grade in their local town. I little brother went to an elementary school that was K-3 I believe. Then for 4th grade he had to go to another school.
PinxJinx@reddit
I’ve literally never gone to a high school that is only for one town, it’s always been several towns (where the graduating 8th grade class is between 6-18 people) combined to make a school.
One high school had a large student base because of the combination and was able to have a football team, the other was smaller and there was never even an attempt to get enough players for a football team
AzoriumLupum@reddit
Yup, agreed. My high-school was attended by students from maybe 8-10 nearby towns. My graduating year was exactly 100 kids.
SpunkyDaisy@reddit
Yes.
My elementary school went up to grade 8. Then I went to a larger town for high school, which was a mix of a few small towns (and all of us farm kids between). I graduated from a class of 66, and my elementary school has since closed.
Holiday-Pomelo-9246@reddit (OP)
Is it possible for a kid to not want to continue education after 8th grade? Like, "I want to live and work on a farm, I learned everything I needed to know, so leave me alone." I mean, won't parents have problems with child protection authorities because of this?
SpunkyDaisy@reddit
Not in Minnesota, where I grew up. The law says you still have to go to school until you are 18.
The school districts worked together on busing kids around, paperwork, etc
IceTech59@reddit
This. The small town I live in now has Elementary, Middle, and High School. Kids from all over this side of the rural, farming county come here. School bus, and worse, Moms running late, traffic is a hazard in the mornings.
Outrageous_Purchase1@reddit
And sometimes the high school has a name that combines all of the town's names. Like Winnemac High School fed from small towns Winston, Eagleton, and Macklin.
saint_of_thieves@reddit
When I moved to VT I'd never heard of a union school. But that's what they call them here since it's a union of surrounding towns.
QuietObserver75@reddit
That's pretty much how my school district started out in the 50s.
USAFrenchMexRadTrad@reddit
I remember in Indiana, someone I know went to a "Tri-County" high school.
a13xis_@reddit
My friend in Indiana (Cincinnati metro-sih area) went to a multi county school and in her part of Indiana they didn't do daylight savings, so for part of the year she would leave for school at 7 and get there at 7 (yes, it took almost an hour to get to school).
yeetskeetleet@reddit
This was what I went to. My school district stretched 20 miles across, with just one high school. I think we had just under 2000 people in the whole school
But I’ve seen the opposite in Illinois (I grew up in Missouri) where every single town has a school district, usually consolidated to one K-12 building. The graduating classes at some of these schools are like 50 people. It’s insanely small
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
I just looked up my local district and I measured distance from just one highschool that includes students that are 20 miles directly away from it. That seems kind of nuts to me especially since that’s way in the mountains, like 30+ minutes away. It’s got to be tough living somewhere very rural with school aged kids.
I went to highschool in Wisconsin and our district had one highschool that encompassed like 5 surrounding towns. I think we had 3000 students. I was on the edge about 10 miles from our highschool, about a 15 minute drive.
Jazzlike-Basket-6388@reddit
My high school was similar. Around 2k students that covered the county. School bus would go by my house at around 6 am, transfer at two different schools, and eventually get us to high school at around 7:50. Afternoon was a lot better but still spent close to an hour on the bus.
Perdendosi@reddit
>had just under 2000 people in the whole school
My school had 600, k-12.
yeetskeetleet@reddit
Yeah I’m not saying my school was small, considering I followed that up by listing a school that I do find small
Abtino11@reddit
Yup my HS was called “Regional” and took kids from 4 different towns. My town itself had less than 1k people. Total graduating class was like 110
Affectionate_Big8239@reddit
They did this where I grew up. We had 3 different neighboring towns in our district.
CaptainHunt@reddit
They may also join the school district of a larger town nearby. My local town has one of the largest school districts in the country because it serves a bunch of the county’s smaller towns.
srobbinsart@reddit
I grew up in hardly a small town (Roseville, MN, smack dab between Minneapolis and St Paul, the two largest cities in the state), and yet my high school served several other adjoining towns like Little Canada, Shoreview, Falcon Heights, and Maplewood, all big enough to support their own high schools.
It can be confusing.
madogvelkor@reddit
Yeah, that's what they do in Connecticut. You get "regional high schools" for example.
When I was in Florida schools were at the county level rather than town/city.
9311chi@reddit
By me there’s regional high schools where it’s several towns sending their students there
Superiority_Complex_@reddit
It really depends on how remote the small town is. If there are other towns reasonably close by, this is most common from what I’ve seen, at least in WA.
If you’re completely out in the sticks, you sometimes just get a tiny little school with only a few kids per grade. Homeschooling can also be an option.
False-Cookie3379@reddit
The school district that we live in is massive, there’s 4 or 5 towns included. Graduating class is around 100, PK and K in once building. Elementary, Middle, and HS are in separate buildings but same campus.
More-Act2171@reddit
Haha yes my school district has I think 14 towns 💀
More-Act2171@reddit
My school covered the whole county over a pretty large area of land. It was a bunch of towns and it was 30 min driving from my house. Our graduating class was 170 something I think. The bus would come at 640 and it would take an hour to get to school which sucked
autumnleeves13@reddit
I was not in a small town class but a very close friend of mine was. Her graduating class was a grand total of 8 students while mine was around 500.
HedonismIsTheWay@reddit
Hah. Mine was about 50 and people can never believe it. Also, my class started at around 225 students in 7th grade. Had the highest drop rate in the state from what I hear.
MamaMidgePidge@reddit
Only about 25% of kids graduated?!!!
No-Conversation1940@reddit
My class had 12.
College graduation took a lot longer.
BasedTaco_69@reddit
8! So crazy, that must have been quite a different experience. Mine was around 400 people.
Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit
I graduated with 385 and my kids’ classes are 40-45. There are definitely positives and negatives to both experiences.
Adorable-Growth-6551@reddit
When i was in school we had one class that only had 6 and they were all girls
Terradactyl87@reddit
Yeah, my area has tiny graduating classes too, like 6-12 students a year. They have k-12 all in the same building and it actually has 4 small towns combined. It's crazy to see it. I grew up in a much bigger area that had two large highschools and my graduating class was about 1000 students.
Craftybitxh@reddit
My cousins school struggled to get enough desks for her graduating class, as they'd had the biggest class in decades.... She had a graduating class of 12.
MamaMidgePidge@reddit
I grew up in a small town of about 1200.
There were two other nearby small towns, one about 400 people and the other I'm not sure, probably somewhere in between.
Each town had its own elementary school. My town had two classes per grade with around 20-25 kids in each class; the 400- person town had one class per grade. Not sure about the 3rd town. I think probably two.
There was one junior high for all kids located in the 3rd town and one high school for all kids located in my town, that everyone attended.
Most high school graduating classes were around 100 kids. Mine was a record high of 138.
In high school, there was at least one teacher per subject with some subjects like English that had several teachers.
I graduated almost 40 years ago but it's still pretty much the same.
Humble-Tree1011@reddit
Schools are run locally. America is notorious for its cohesive government, so everyone agrees on everything. We hop on a magic school bus, Ms. Frizzle shrinks us for science during third period, and we return for lunch an hour later.
jmims98@reddit
Multiple towns go to one school. Or occasionally a very small school. I have seen both.
SportsPhotoGirl@reddit
And even some of the consolidated schools will team up with other consolidated schools in the general facility to form sports teams cuz even the consolidated schools typically don’t have enough kids interested to have one full team for some sports, like football or baseball.
asexualrhino@reddit
I lived in a town for a couple years with about 1,200 people. I didn't go to school there but my brother did. The elementary and middle schools were on the same property but different buildings. There was a little creek running through the yard between them so when they graduated from one school into the next, they would literally have a "crossing the bridge" ceremony.
The high school was a whole block away lol. I think there were 13 staff members which I cluded admin and teachers. Most of the teachers either taught multiple subjects or had admin duties. My brother's graduating class had 80 kids which was the largest in a couple decades.
Most of the kids came in by bus from the surrounding country houses or from the golf course community which was about 8 miles away (the community was literally split in half by districts. So you could live 1 street away from your friend and be going to different schools in different towns). There was a lot of rain every winter which flooded the roads into town. If this happened, school was cancelled, sometimes a week at a time. They couldn't have half the kids not be able to come because the buses couldn't make it, and the other half just continue without them. This has changed since covid made online school a thing. No rain days for those kids anymore
Also, all kids over I think 10 years old were released for lunch time and could leave school grounds. Most kids went home or to a friend's house or the burger shop next door (which was run by high schoolers). Very few ate at the school.
baalroo@reddit
My wife road the bus for something like 2 hours, each direction to go to a school that had like 9 kids in her grade.
Educational-Big-6609@reddit
Watch like 1A football playoffs in any random US state in early November (NFHS Network) and notice all the schools with hyphenated names denoting the multiple towns that attend. I grew up in Minnesota and we’d see Litchfield-Dassel-Cokato, St. Michael-Albertville, etc.
Educational-Big-6609@reddit
They bus kids in from all over the county. My mom graduated from one of these.
AluminumCansAndYarn@reddit
I went to a tiny consolidated school out in the cornfields a couple of miles outside of the city closest to us. For high school, they busses all of us into the city. The boundary lines were really weird but half of my consolidated school went to one high school and the other half went to the other school. But the small village to the south of my consolidated school had its own K-8th but they also bussed their kids into the city for high school. Same with the village to the west of where I lived but south of the city and the same for the small city directly to the north of my city. Like the last two area are so close to the main city that if you cross the road, you're in the city.
But my dad moved to this tiny town quite literally surrounded by farms and cornfields. Literally, I rode the bike they had for me to the town library and back and I could hear cows at the farm on the corner. But they were the biggest town for like 15 miles or something. And I'm not exactly sure where the middle school was but the elementary and high school were right next to each other and everyone got picked up and bussed into the town. Which funnily enough, I would classify it this area as a village but they call themselves a city. It's actually in the name. Farmers city. I usually say anything less than something like 5000 people, I would classify as a village. It has 1800 people as of the last census. The two villages I talk about close to my old home, both have less than 3000 people.
Dave_A480@reddit
We have school districts, which often cover multiple communities.
The school district provides transportation via dedicated school-bus (and permanently cures most folks of any desire to ever ride public transit ever again) to/from school for elementary, middle, and high-school students...
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
“Permanently cures most folks of any desire to ride public transit again” amen lol. I mean that, and my actual experience riding public transit in Milwaukee during college 100% cured my desire of ever riding it again.
Late buses standing out in slush, being pestered by homeless people, crowded disgusting loud bus, late for work because the bus didn’t show up.
I’ve ridden public transport in Germany and it was wonderful. It’s not just reserved for miscreants like the US. I’m not necessarily saying we’re doing it wrong either, our country just developed after the automobile and anyone that can afford person vehicles will do so in order to navigate our society without major hassle.
lokland@reddit
I can afford a personal vehicle and I sold it for a better lifestyle. In fact, it actually costs more to live in dense walkable cities than sprawling suburbs. This might be a generational thing, because I don’t think your claims here are as universal as you may think.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
Well I obviously didn’t mean Chicago. lol. There’s some large cities it’s fine in, but most cities and especially towns it’s terrible.
lokland@reddit
Right, so your whole comment about how Americans don’t want it, is more a reflection of, they don’t currently have it.
Dave_A480@reddit
Housing preference drives infrastructure preference, development patterns, zoning, everything.
85% of Americans want to live in a single family home.
There are more people in the cities wanting out, than in the suburbs wanting in. The 2 things keeping them there are (a) living in a run down urban neighborhood and not being able to afford a suburban house, or (b) insufficient road-bandwith causing traffic congestion and an intolerable commute.
lokland@reddit
Statistically untrue for younger generations. Pricing in urban downtowns is the biggest deterrent atm for Gen Z.
Also, not even gonna bother explaining that housing preference does drive development— except when red lining, zoning, and federal planning destroys your walkability without any consideration for what the free market actually wants.
Zoning practices alone account for why modern car commuters suburbs exist to begin with.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
I haven’t lived in MKE in over a decade so unsure of the state today but sounds like it still sucks.
Dave_A480@reddit
My claims presently represent \~74% of the US population (Combined suburban and rural population), with no sign of that changing.
Urbanists are loud online, but almost invisible in real life - other than trying to block suburban infrastructure under the premise that 'if we make commuting suck, they'll give up their cars and move to the city'....
Dave_A480@reddit
I graduated from MSOE in 2002. I bought a car as soon as I could afford one (working full time while a full time student) rather than spend another day on MCTS
TemerariousChallenge@reddit
This is so interesting to read bc my experience with school districts is like the exact opposite. But also most of the county was unincorporated and very densely populated so my district had a great many schools
ForestOranges@reddit
This sort of depends. Some states have school districts which are not independent. Also, not all states have unincorporated land.
kaimcdragonfist@reddit
My town’s schools covered a lot of the unincorporated communities nearby since it’s a heavily agricultural area in Idaho, and that made a difference.
And man it sucked being the last house on the school bus route. I was so happy when we moved within walking distance of the school.
Professional-Pie-986@reddit
My graduating class was like 120 students. The highschool was (Name) County High School, everyone from the whole county went there rather than just the town itself.
professor-ks@reddit
To answer the last bit: small schools look for teachers with multiple certifications. The really small schools will alternate class offerings so two grade levels are in one room (odd years they do bio and physics, even years they do earth science and chemistry...) teachers end up teaching 4-6 subjects a year and possibly 4-6 different subjects the following year.
cactusfairyprincess@reddit
I had a childhood summer camp friend who lived in a tiny little village in mountains. Her school was K-12, with about 60 total students. There was one teacher for every 2 grade levels, so K/1, 2/3, and so on. This was in the 90s/early 2000s, nowadays I’m guessing it’s mostly virtual school, at least for the upper grades.
LetterheadClassic306@reddit
i grew up near a town of 400 people. k-12 was all one building and graduating class had maybe 15 kids. teachers doubled up subjects a lot - my biology teacher also taught history. some states fund online classes for advanced courses. if you want to understand state by state differences better, i’ve found this book on american education systems breaks down how things vary in different regions.
Tree_Weasel@reddit
There’s a town near me (Falls City, TX) that has a Kondergarten - 12th grade that has about 400-450 students. It averages 30 students per graduating class. It schools children from 3 towns in a VERY rural area of South Texas.
I had a cousin who graduated from there. She loved it.
Moosen_Burger@reddit
Not to repeat what everyone else is saying but you’ll either do a consolidated school of all the towns in the area or if there are not nearby towns (or they are exceptionally small) you’ll end up with a very small class. My class was less then 100, but I went to tech school with someone whose grad class was 28 and they were the largest that had happened in that town in awhile.
Docnevyn@reddit
It’s not a high school for the town. It’s for several towns or the county.
ForestOranges@reddit
County high schools only work if your county has a low population but is small enough geographically that everyone in the county can reach a central location without the bus rides being super long.
MamaPajamaMama@reddit
As with everything education, it varies widely by state and often district. Where I grew up in NJ, most towns/cities had their own high school, and sometimes small towns would send their kids there. My high school constituted 4 towns. But there were other local high schools that had one high school/one town. And larger cities had more than one high school.
Where I live now in Colorado, my city has 80,000 residents and 3 high schools.
quietude38@reddit
This is not always true, it depends on the state.
For example, in Kentucky, the county schools covered everyone outside the city limits of the ~10,000 population county seat, which had its own school system. (This was largely because the Black population lived almost entirely in the city and not the county.)
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess-@reddit
Eastern Kentucky had several towns in one school
dr_stre@reddit
My hometown was just a bar over 1,000 when we moved there. We had a single K-12 high school, all under one roof. 436 kids in total during my senior year, and my graduating class was a mere 26 students. Younger grades were a little larger as the town was growing.
As for classrooms, we were still pretty typically separated up until high school. In high school the offer slightly different classes every other year so your group freshmen/sophomores, and juniors/seniors for those classes so everyone had an opportunity to take each class.
No AP classes when I was there, but they let me just skip a grade in about half my classes and I could drive into the bigger city for university classes my senior year.
For teachers we had one teacher covering all English courses, another covering all history/social studies type courses, one for math, and two for science (one focused on the biology type classes and also taught middle school kids some of the time, the other one taught physics and chemistry. These numbers were for high school only. Middle school had their own similar structure, elementary was just one teacher per classroom who covered everything like most schools.
General age ranges were typically kept somewhat separate. One wing for young elementary, one wing for older elementary, one hallway for middle school, and one wing for high schoolers. Still, you’d sometimes have to walk through other areas and you could definitely be trucking down a hallway and run over half a class of kindergartners when you rounded a corner.
It did provide some unique opportunities. There were lots of options for mentoring younger kids, for example. Good sense of community at the school.
Biggest sports focus was basketball, and we were good at it. Anyone who wanted to play football had to bus it to another high school nearby that we did co-op with for football since we didn’t have enough players to field a team. Wish I’d taken advantage of that fact that try-outs weren’t really a thing. Want to be on the golf team and get free golf all summer and free lessons? Congrats, you’re on the team.
Happy to answer any other questions.
Evenfisher01@reddit
In more rural areas half or more of a county can be one school district. Even in more urban areas several townships can be conbined into one district
Gloomy_Junket9364@reddit
To your question about teachers being qualified: No, it’s not uncommon for teachers to have to teach more than one thing. And yes, that does mean they’re not qualified to teach what they’re teaching. I taught in a high school of about 60 students (~ 15 per graduating class), and while I applied to teach English, I ended up also teaching Journalism, Life Skills, and Yearbook despite not having any experience in any of that.
But at least I was qualified to teach something. Rural schools are so desperate for teachers that it’s not uncommon for people to get an “emergency” teacher’s license just because they need a body in a classroom. That’s how we get the bus driver teaching math, one of the cafeteria workers also teaching physics, etc. They’re so desperate they’ll take anyone, even if they have no experience or qualifications.
If you’re not a sex offender and you’re over 18, congratulations, you’re now a teacher. It’s not fair to the kids at all, but these small districts have no choice.
Accomplished_Key5104@reddit
I grew up in a rural area where there were a bunch of little towns near each other. Most have around a 1000 people population, with some being larger (2000 - 3000) and some being smaller (300 - 600).
At least in that area, most towns had their own school that covered kindergarten through high school. Some of the smaller ones did bus their kids to a nearby town. Since I moved away I think there's been a bit more combining, but these towns still prefer to have their own school. A lot of schools combine their sports programs.
Mine was 35. I think the next class after mine was in the 20s. I'm surprised my school is still open. It must be smaller now.
Every elementary grade had a separate class. My small school had 2 different classes per grade in elementary school. Only like 15-20 kids per class. One teacher covering all topics except art, music, and gym.
We're talking more middle school and high school here, covering grades 6 through 12. My school shared teachers between middle and high school. If you look at Math, there's a different math class for every grade from 6th grade to 12th grade. That's 7 courses, actually more when you consider remedial math and advanced courses like calculus. For Math, History, English, Art, Band, Choir, etc.. it was common to have only 1 to 3 teachers for each overarching topic, and they would do 3 or 4 different courses each semester. For most classes they would do 2 periods of each course each semester, giving students a bit of flexibility with their schedule.
For sciences, some teachers had more of a specialty. I remember one taught all the chemistry and physics classes, and another taught biology. I think the biology teacher and another teacher covered the "general science" classes for the younger grades.
In college I always won the "who had the smallest high school graduating class" ice breaker. It came up surprisingly often.
AstralBullDragon13@reddit
So, I lived an hour away from where I went to high school and I had to board out each school year, which was essentially living in town with someone during the school week and going home on the weekends.
Royal_Success3131@reddit
I'm from a town of 1200, my graduating class was 12 kids. The school was 9 tiny towns all banded together. Most of the towns were 200-400 people.
FireCorgi12@reddit
My dad teaches in a town with a pop of 160, and he teaches science at one building for 7th grade through 12th grade. One class for each grade. Graduating classes are like 15 people.
Accomplished_Mix7827@reddit
Several small towns might have a combined school, and they may have to just accept that some kids will need to be on the bus for 45 minutes to an hour every day. If there isn't the population density to make even that feasible, you might just have a school with only 40 kids in it.
Legal_Bed_1506@reddit
Usually they just consolidate and serve a bunch of towns and villages. The high school that I graduated from and drove a school bus at for a little while was like that. Villages used to have their own K-12 but then they all consolidated into a “central school district” and what used to be the K-12 buildings became K-4, and a new 5-12 building was built, which eventually split into the now intermediate, middle, and high school buildings that are all located on the same campus. If it’s a weird case like when I was a kid living on a US Army base in Germany, the base has its own school/s that just serve however many kids there are. Each grade had between 20-30 kids each.
despotic_wastebasket@reddit
I graduated high school in 2008. My graduating class had something close to 20 people-- I think maybe 21? Or 22? I don't remember.
The year before mine had I think 30 or so, and it was the largest class in our school's history (or so I was told. I've never bothered to actually fact-check that, and I don't intend to start now).
Here's how our school was organized.
K-6 was in one building, 7-12 was in another. We referred to them as the Elementary and the High School respectively, regardless of whether a student was technically in "middle school" or "Jr. High" or whatever. I don't know if this is typical of most small schools, but at least at ours the two schools were right next to each other and shared a lunchroom. The lunchroom was in a third building, situated halfway between the two. I'd say it was about a 10 minute walk from one to the other. Elementary had their lunch first, and High School had their lunch after. Sometimes, if there was a delay for whatever reason, we'd have to stand awkwardly outside waiting for the Elementary students to finish eating and exit the building before we were allowed to go in and get food for ourselves. After we were done eating, if time allowed, we were allowed to hang out in the pavilion area at the High School.
We mostly had different teachers for each subject. Again, my memory is fuzzy, but I seem to recall we had about a dozen teachers overall. The English teacher, for example, only taught English, but he taught it for all grades 7-12. By the time I graduated, certain AP students could participate in a program called "distance learning", where we sort of outsourced a teacher from another school (a local community college, I think). The distance learning classroom was basically like what I imagine things like for students during COVID-- there was a big screen that the teacher was projected onto, and that teacher was using a webcam or something. We were all sat at desktop computers, and she could see us via a camera and microphone placed in the room. There was a local teacher in the room with us, who acted as facilitator-- to troubleshoot any technical issues that came up, make sure we weren't ignoring the lesson by going to other websites, etc.
These distance learning classes would take place with other students from other schools as well. Funnily enough, my first girlfriend was actually a girl from another school who I met during one of these classes.
I want to say that it wasn't typical to combine grade levels, but now that I'm really thinking about it I'm not sure that's true. Some classes did have combined grade levels, some didn't. I can't swear to it, but I think that it was divided along more "typical" High School lines-- so Grade 7 & 8 could take the same classes, and Grades 9 & 10 could take the same classes, but Grades 8 & 9 could not.
We had two math teachers, one for the "lower" grades and one for the "upper" grades, but besides that each subject had its own teacher. Class sizes varied-- I remember some of my classes, especially the ones with combined students, had about 20 or so students in them at one time, which always felt crowded. Others, like some of the higher level classes, would have less than ten. For example, I remember my English class had around twenty or so students, but my Algebra class had around six.
Anyway, I never liked the small-town aspect of my childhood, so I don't keep in touch with hardly anyone from those days. However, as is often the nature of such small towns, I know that I'm very atypical in that sense. My younger brother is still in touch with most of his friends from those days. Basically, you grow up with these people-- the classmates I had in the 4th grade were largely the same classmates I graduated High School with. I did not go to our High School Reunion, so I do sometimes worry I might have burnt some bridges there but oh well.
Oh, and like dozen people I knew back then later turned out to be gay. That's big news in a small town, I guess.
sluttypidge@reddit
We have 3 small towns within 30 miles of each other combine into a school district. The busses have the name of all 3 towns on them.
Remarkable_Table_279@reddit
So there may not be a HS in that town…but there’s one in the county seat. And while there’s more than likely school bus routes to those towns there may only be a couple stops in that town. But older teens can drive themselves and their parents can drive them
NaturalForty@reddit
Today, many farming counties have 1 or 2 high schools. Yes, some kids are spending 40 minutes on a bus. Small towns used to have very small schools. I lived in rural Illinois county with 3 school districts. Two were about 1000 km2. One town of 500 had its own high school with about 30 students. The boiler failed and a replacement was $500k, so the town had a vote on a huge one-time tax to keep the school open. It passed, so the residents spent the money and the school stayed open.
LisaLynn61@reddit
My ex had 23 kids in his HS graduating class in rural Texas.
PrecociousParrot@reddit
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY ITS MY TIME TO SHINE!
So I live in a small community in western North Carolina called Nantahala. It's a super small community nestled in the mountains so getting around the what is the entire county is a little difficult, so we have a k-12 school just for us
So basically kindergarten and 1st were lumped together, 2nd and 3rd, then 4th and 5th. Due to the fact that the education standards of those grades are close enough and the student body is normally less than 10 per class (my graduating class was 7. My brothers graduating class was the largest the school had ever seen at 20.) once you reach 6th grade and are in middle school you kinda just move up a corridor in the hall and keep going. During middle school you go to a home room that also just so happens to be your starting class. Then go throughout classes as the school decides. I cannot emphasize enough. I didn't like choose my classes at any point. Everything was decided for me.
Then comes highschool, basically same as middle but a few more choices? Like I had to take a foreign language. We didn't have a teacher so it was an online course for my school, so we got to choose.
That's the basics. Now the rough stuff
This school during the entire course of my education always had about 100-120 students total. We did not have a band, we did not have a football team, we did not have a drama/theater department, we did not have a music class of any kind. Our school functions/ trips were always including the whole or half the school. So even when it's a highschool only event. There we were tugging along our middle schoolers. Prom was the entire highschool, Not just junior and seniors. We had barely any funding for basically fucking anything. So much so, it took us my entire middle school life to get new basketball uniforms for our basketball team that was at risk of extinction because NO ONE wanted to play that upcoming year.
Any other questions I'll be happy to answer
Stressed_C@reddit
Now they mostly add the small town students to the next largest town's schools
nunyabizthewiz@reddit
That’s sad
jvc1011@reddit
Why? Regional high schools have been a thing at least since the 1950s.
nunyabizthewiz@reddit
I went to a small school. It was wonderful. I’d be sad to see them disappear. Also most of the bigger schools around me are terrible. Maybe things are different where you are.
jvc1011@reddit
A lot of consolidated schools are still quite small. They just have graduating classes of, say, 75 students instead of 6.
nunyabizthewiz@reddit
Ohhhhh that makes a difference…I was thinking that it was taking class sizes of 75 and creating ones at like 1000….that is quite different.
jvc1011@reddit
Oh, yes, it would be!
This is just “let’s have a quorum so we can hire teachers to offer kids the classes they need/want.”
Lootlizard@reddit
I live in town of 2500 people. We have an elementary school that is k-6 and across the street a highschool that is 7-12th grade. My mom was the administrator for the elementary and her sister was the administrator for the highschool so they knew every kid and parent in town for 30 years. I had 47 kids in my graduating class and 40 started kindergarten with me. The grades don't get intermingled until at least 7th grade but mostly after 9th grade. By 9th grade you fully pick your own schedule and you can have 9th-12th graders in the same class for certain subjects. Teachers will normally teach multiple classes with their subject but not a completely different subject. The math teacher might teach a class of algebra, then Trig, then calculus, then geometry but they don't also teach a history class. Science teachers would teach biology, chemistry, physics, and everything else science related. We had 7, 45 minute classes a day with a 35 minute study hall at the end to do homework and ask teachers questions.
The town next to mine only has about 600 people. They have 1 school that is K-12 and they normally have about 12-16 kids per grade. They have a 9 man football team and offer fewer electives and extra curiculars than larger school. Other than that it functions the same just in 1 building instead of 2.
There are a bunch of tiny towns around our town that will group together and form 1 highschool. Sometimes they have their own elementary schools, sometimes they're shared and one town will get the elementary and the other the highschool. They're normally known locally by an acronym or a nickname. Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton becomes DGF and so on. Everyone knows that group as DGF locally.
ElijahNSRose@reddit
Where I'm from there's a list of communities that evaporated when the county's dozen or so schools became three. Previously in small schools it was common for some teachers to teach multiple subjects or grade levels.
21schmoe@reddit
You're going to have to clarify why you mean by "town". In densely-populated regions surrounding major cities (called metropolitan areas), the "next town" is right next to yours. You can't tell when you've crosses a city line. In Northern New Jersey (heavily populated suburban region of NYC), some towns might have a combined school. In Northeast Illinois (Chicago metropolitan area), the counties (outside Chicago) are divided into school districts that can be irrespective of town lines.
If your question is about rural areas, where "the next town" is 45 minutes away, that's an excellent question. But in densely-populated metropolitan areas, this is not an issue.
SenseNo635@reddit
I grew up in a very small, rural town. Our town had one elementary school K-6), one middle school (7-8) and a regional high school that served my town and the one next to it. 114 students in my graduating class.
Fuzzzer777@reddit
I graduated from a private school where k thru 12 were all under the same building. Huge, beautiful 100 yr old building with 2 wings. K thru 5 on one end and 6 thru 12 on the other. My graduating class was 18 people. I can still name each one 46 years later.
TenMoon@reddit
My husband's tiny town has K through 12 on the same campus. I think there are a total of six buildings, and one of those buildings is just for grades 9 through 12. His graduating class was 32 people. My graduating class was over 900.
We had all the amenities and sports. His high school had basketball and swim teams, but no tennis, golf, or field hockey. Everyone knew each other, and the class bullies got away with everything short of murder because they had the "right last names."
Playful_Fan4035@reddit
My husband graduated from a high school where most graduating classes had less than 20 kids. One teacher often teaches multiple grade levels or the same subject or teaches multiple subjects. Also administrators will teach classes as well as administrator duties. There may also be less class options than at a larger school. Another option is to teach some classes in alternating years—this has to be done carefully so that students’ schedules don’t get messed up.
These days, some classes may be taught remotely or through online work as well.
Interesting-Long-534@reddit
As others have said many school districts are consolidating to create bigger schools. The downside of this is that some students spend more than an hour each way on a bus.
jess3jim@reddit
We live in a small town (population 15k) but the small towns around ( think 400 people) just get bussed to our town or another town
Cavecity-outlaw@reddit
I’m from Kentucky. The default is county school systems, not city.
Dobieslawa@reddit
Where I grew up, we had one building that housed K-12 (Kindergarten through 12th grade, or kids from about age 5 to about age 18). Usually there were about 40 kids per graduating class. We didn't have to combine different grade levels in the same class for main courses (history, science, math, etc) but we did for electives (gym, accounting, music, etc).
As for teachers combining subjects: In middle-high school there would be one math teacher that taught math at various levels; one English teacher that taught English at various levels; etc. Something with the state certification must have let them do that? I guess I don’t know exactly how that part worked. For elementary school, there were 2 teachers at each level, and they each had 20 kids. Ex: 2 kindergarten teachers, 2 first-grade teachers, 2 second-grade teachers, etc. There were 2 gym teachers and they did all ages from age 5 to age 18. The one music teacher also did the whole school.
Kids from a few neighboring towns did ride the bus to be added to our school, so that there would be enough kids. In the decades since I graduated high school, there has been enough population decline that there are now only about 20 kids per graduating class and they are considering either closing the school or merging with yet another town.
UncomfortableBike975@reddit
My jr/sr high school combined half of a county; less than 800 students for 6 grades.
GandalfTheGrey46@reddit
Those tend to be county schools
Lower_Kick268@reddit
A few small towns just go to one school
cdb03b@reddit
If they are close enough to other towns they will combine. This is called a "consolidated school district". If they are not close enough then they will have their own small school. If they are small enough and isolated enough they may even have what they call a K-12 school where all grade levels are in the same building or on the same campus.
They will still typically have different teacher for different subjects unless they are absolutely tiny.
mwcdem@reddit
Well, K-12 is not high school. High school is almost always 9-12. I teach in a small district with about 50-60 students per grade level. We have an elementary and a middle school. My city pays some amount of money for students in our district to attend the neighboring district’s high school. It’s less than 10 minutes away and has about 1200 students.
nunyabizthewiz@reddit
I worked at a district with one K-12 building. Class sizes run 30-50 students. Teachers teach multiple grades and subjects. There were about 2 Hs teachers per subject. Or one social studies teacher might teach 9-12. A lot of these kids go to technical schools, start college, or take work leave so of the 30-50 in a grade level, there may be 20 still attending full time by junior/senior year.
ATLien_3000@reddit
Maine pays for kids from really remote towns to board at a handful of private schools
It has for decades - since long before "school vouchers" were a thing.
It's kept remote rural towns that would otherwise have collapsed viable.
OhCrumbs96@reddit
Wow. Maine is one of those states that I don't often hear about (as a total outsider), but every time I do hear about it, it sounds pretty amazing.
ATLien_3000@reddit
They don't really have another option.
A "remote" town in Maine might be an island served by a 3 hour ferry ride once a week, or one unserved by roads that's only accessible by snow machine or sea plane.
OhCrumbs96@reddit
I can certainly see the logic in that, but the provision of government services and funding doesn't often seem particularly logical and I think that's why Maine stands out to me.
How many disadvantaged groups around the entire country/world could have demonstrably better outcomes if their government just invested some funding to provide a more even footing for those disadvantaged individuals? There are many groups of children who are receiving inadequate or insufficient education for reasons beyond their control. I can't help thinking about how much better their outcomes would be if more governments followed Maine's lead and allocated a decent amount of funding to ensure that these groups received proper, full access to education.
MyUsername2459@reddit
How do they get mail? Is all the mail just delivered once a week?
We_R_the_Penguins@reddit
Apropos for this subject, it’s also the most rural state. You’d think Alaska or something, but nope.
Boopa0011@reddit
I had a friend in college who went to a boarding school, and he was always quick to tell people that his family were lobster fishers on an island in Maine that had no high school.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
The school on Monhegan Island only goes to 8th grade, so the students have to go to the mainland for high school, and they often board. It's only about an hour by boat from Port Clyde, and I think every kid on the island has parents who are in the lobster trade, but the weather in winter can make things unpredictable, according to the locals, so it makes sense for the high school kids to stay on the mainland except for holidays.
Bluemonogi@reddit
The county I live in has fewer than 10,000 people. Not every small town has schools. I live in the biggest city of about 3,000 people. People in smaller towns or outside of cities send their children by bus to school. High school students might be able to drive to school. The county is divided into 2 school districts. There are 3 public high schools in the county and you would send your kids to one of the schools in your district. The high school in my city has about 260 students. There are teachers in high school for separate subjects and classes are taught separately by grade level.
P00PooKitty@reddit
In MA, once a town is less than 20-30k people the school usually is of comprised of two or more towns
Infamous-Phone-1973@reddit
My county had 20,000 people total so we all went to the same high school. K-8 was split up but we all needed together for 9-12.
Mountain_Air1544@reddit
Im from a super small rural area there are 2 public high schools in the county one for the Western part of the county and one for the eastern. Busses come from all over the county to bring kids to school. I've also seen where a few small towns have a high school and middle school but each small town has its own elementary
Auntie_Venom@reddit
In the part of Missouri where I grew up, if it was a rural area, kids living outside the city, they went to the closest school in the county, regardless if there was a school closer because it’s in another school district.
My school district had kids from a lot of rural communities in the county that didn’t have their own school on top of us that lived in the city. There were also larger towns in the county that had their own school system too, but they only had kids from their township and immediate rural areas.
tduke65@reddit
Regional schools
Efficient_Wheel_6333@reddit
So, I haven't seen this in my hometown (we're at the line between small and large town population wise), but, when I was taking a tour of Put-In-Bay several years back, they said that the kids from Kelly's Island and I think one other island that has a population boat and fly their school-aged children over to Put-In-Bay to go to school there.
Cant-think-of-a-nam@reddit
They go to the closest high school
urquhartloch@reddit
My highschool was 120 kids, pre-K through 12. I was all one building and it was a big deal when we got a trailer for the english class because there wasnt enough room for them in the main building.
Angel89411@reddit
My husband went to a school that combined a few really small towns. They had k-12. It was destroyed in a major weather event and they rebuilt with high school separate but also rezoned so that more kids attended.
throwfar9@reddit
My wife grew up on a farm in North Dakota in the 60s and 70s. K-12 was one school; her class was 21 strong. The prom was rough. Everybody played a sport; everybody was in the band. The HS couldn’t offer enough science and math for her to fulfill her dream of being a vet. Two sisters were Special ED teachers and one an RN. Three brothers got agricultural degrees and the baby went IT with a 2-year. He runs all the IT for a major hospital. One brother gave up farming and became a commercial pilot for a major airline. They all did well career-wise.
My wife’s horse met the school bus everyday and she rode him/her ( there were about six horses between the kids over the years) home a couple miles. She started on tractors at ten,then combines at 13, and 17-gear semis hauling grain to the elevator at 15. My childhood in a suburb was . . . different.
InfamousSquash1621@reddit
I live in a town with a population of 300 in town, plus there's other small towns nearby without a school & people that live out of town.
Our school is K-12 all in one building. Total enrollment is about 100. This year's graduating class has 4 students.
Sometimes the elementary grades will have 2 years of students in one classroom with one teacher.
Sometimes teachers specialize in more than one subject.
Our small schools here also use technology - if some kids want to take a class that the school doesn't have a teacher for, they participate in the class at anothet school digitally. Our area has really good fiber internet, and during COVID they got laptops for all the students. So classes switched to being all over the internet. And now when there's a blizzard for example, instead of calling school off for a snow day they just do they classes from home on their laptops.
Texan_Greyback@reddit
Sometimes the full grade range is in one school building or campus.
amhei@reddit
This describes the school I went to and then taught at for a bit after college. Town of less than 2,000. We had one school for K-12. Typically we would have one Pre-K class (half days with 10-15 students in each). Then k-3 had two teachers and classes with 14-25 students. 4-6 would have about 2 students per grade. The students had a homeroom but each teacher would rotate all the students and teach the subjects as specializations.
7-8th grade typically had one teacher for each subject matter that taught both grades. Then 9-12th had 1-2 teachers for each subject matter that taught all the grades. Typically there were 2 sessions for each subject per grade with class sizes of about 13-17 kids. I graduated with a class of 34.
All grades were housed in one building but we did take a bus off site for technology/agriculture classes.
Additionally when you got to 11 grade you also had the option to spend half the day at a vocational job training school that taught things like construction, nursing, culinary skills, etc.
amhei@reddit
Though for sports more recently, they have recently started combining with neighboring districts, but not for academics.
BlackQuartzSphinx_@reddit
I teach high school social studies in a town of 500 people.
Our high school takes kids from the entire county, which is our town plus two or three others that are even smaller.
We have a teacher for each subject. Our current high school staff not counting admin and support staff currently consists of one teacher each for math, science, social studies, English, agriculture/business, music, and PE/health. They way teaching at the high school level works in Montana is that you get a degree in the actual field (I double majored in history and political science) and then get licensed to teach.
If a student wants to take a class we don't offer, like a visual art or foreign language class, we have an arrangement with something called Montana Digital Academy to allow them to take the class online.
SidewaysGoose57@reddit
I graduated in 1972 in a town of about 6,000 people. Grade 1-5 just kids from around town. 6th grade kids from three other towns came, all towns less than 600 people. In high school kids from another town of about 1,500 joined us. Around 800 students in the high school.
MonicaBWQ@reddit
Many countries have their own school systems. So kids from several neighboring towns, attend school together.
Mammoth_Ad_4806@reddit
My school was one grades k-8, maybe 100 students in total, and served all of the surrounding towns. The high school was about 30 miles away and covered the entire region.
HavBoWilTrvl@reddit
Here in North Carolina, there are county and city school districts. I grew up in a rural county with no large city. We had 2 high schools in the county, one for the south half and another for the north half.
Mouse-Direct@reddit
I grew up in a small town in Oklahoma (600 people) but my info isn’t current (I graduated in 1988).
There was a push for a consolidated high school, but the area towns resisted because — get this — they wanted to keep their American football rivalry. Cause fuck those academics.
I went K-12 on a campus that had one building for K-grade 6, another for 7-9, and another for 10-12th grades. Growing up we had programs for art, music, home economics, shop (metal arts, wood working, and automotive), and sports like baseball, basketball, football, wrestling, and track. We were a rural area, so programs for animal husbandry like 4-H and Future Farmers of America were huge.
I wanted out of my small town desperately, so I did well academically, scored well on college acceptance tests, and participated in student government, cheerleading team, yearbook & journalism staffs, was a page in state government, and applied for many regional scholarships. I went to college in the capital city and have lived here since 1990.
Holiday-Pomelo-9246@reddit (OP)
Excellent sense of purpose! Your information about school in 80s actually interesting and useful. Are there any similar programs for animal husbandry in rural schools available today?
And I learned right now that in Minnesota, the law requires children to attend school until age 18, even if they don't want to. What about your state? Or maybe this law applies to all states? Because I'm sure there are kids who hate school, especially if it's a long way away, and who would rather live and work on a farm than go to school. And if a student was expelled from school, say, at 13-16 y.o, are they still required to continue their education at another school or be homeschooled until 18?
Mouse-Direct@reddit
Future Farmers of America is still a big institution in the American South and West. They provide training, education, and scholarships for students interested in farming, ranching, environmental sciences, and agricultural studies of all kinds: https://www.ffa.org/
Students in Oklahoma can legally drop out of school in Oklahoma at 16. They have to wait until their graduating class completes schooling before they can take the General Educational Development exam, which upon passing confers an equivalent high school diploma.
Home schooling is also popular in rural areas due to both religious preferences and geographic necessity (no immediate area schools).
luxury_identities@reddit
I lived in a town of ~750, we had an elementary school that handled pre-k through 5th or 6th I can't remember and a combined high school that had junior high downstairs and high school upstairs. My graduating class size was 20, but the freshman class that year had maybe 30-35 so it can vary a lot depending on the year.
From my experience it was uncommon to combine grade levels unless it was a really small class like an AP, dual credit, or smaller elective class.
It was common to have teachers teach multiple classes under their general field of study. For example, my chemistry, physics, and biology classes were all taught by the same teacher. Same goes for algebra, trigonometry, and geometry being taught by the same math teacher. As for how they're qualified, in Texas there are course specific certifications (physics only, chemistry only, etc) and composite certifications that allow you to teach multiple subjects under your general umbrella.
Barfotron4000@reddit
I am from a town of 700ish. There were 23 people in my graduating class. I had a friend from a smaller town where they had 8 people, he was the last grade in that school and the kids get bussed to the next closest school
Lavender_r_dragon@reddit
Here in western North Carolina, some of the rural counties have one middle school and one high school
From Wikipedia: Madison County is a county located in the U.S. state of North Carolina. As of the 2020 census, the population was 21,193.
451.49 sq mi
Madison County Schools consists of one early college high school, one traditional high school (Madison High School, located in the county seat of Marshall), one middle school (Madison Middle School), and three elementary schools (Brush Creek Elementary, Hot Springs Elementary, and Mars Hill Elementary).[32] Brush Creek Elementary was built as a merger of Marshall Elementary and Walnut Elementary after the latter burned down in 1998 ————-
There was a big thing in 2015 cause they closed the 4th elementary school.
According to this, it was the smallest elementary school in the state - 49 kids (in k-5?)
https://youtu.be/iXYtNxqbDQA?si=CAnQVvweOV5dFVcv
Enginerdus@reddit
In Rochelle Texas, population 172, they have an independent school district. They have about 160 students between all K-12, because kids from other districts go there instead of their home district for various reasons. This comes out to about 16 students per grade. When I lived there 30 years ago they were all combined in one school, didn’t have separate campuses, not sure how it is now. They play 6 man football due to lack of numbers to support a full team. It’s a weird place. I lived in this school district during my childhood but chose to go to a larger school further down the highway. That was also a small school, but nothing like Rochelle.
Rough-Excitement-325@reddit
My school was in the middle of nowhere. Preschool, and kindergarten through highschool. My graduating class had a total of fifty-two. We pulled in a bunch of students from the surrounding remote areas that were in gray-areas district wise in relation to the nearby and very much larger towns.
The school was more of a central location, and was a shorter trip for these farm kids than if they were to bus/drive to the next town. Some had forty-five minute or even an hour long ride just because of how the rural state highways were paved. Mine was thirty minutes with no traffic, and if it rained it was longer because the shorter route was flooded and impassable because the road went through a creek.
And because the school was a kind of central location for the area, it was semi used as a kind of community board because the school day was the only way people would reliably see each other and communicate on a regular basis since not everyone went to the same church or had numbers or socials. Heck, even close friends could live in opposite directions and it would be an hour drive to their house so school would literally be the only time to see each other in person.
Extra_Routine_6603@reddit
Can answer this one grew up in a small town with its own school that was still running but was mostly funded by local booster clubs and didn't get alot of funding from state. Had an elementary school that took K-6th grades and highschool took the rest. But if when I was there and school was closer we were told depending on where we lived (town was between two counties) would decide which school we'd have to go to. But my class was the largest to go through in a while until my senior year the new freshman class was slightly bigger and we only had I think 28 people total. Maybe 5-600 students in total most classes were maybe 30-40 at most and smallest ones I had were like 5 or 6 people depending on what the class was
Adrianilom@reddit
We had a k-6 in mine and then all the middle-high sat on a bus and spent 2 hours one way for school. After-school activities had a separate bus.
TheRealDudeMitch@reddit
The school districts boundaries usually include not just the small town but the rural areas around it, which can be quite large. And on top of that, oftentimes several towns will combine to form a consolidated school district. Students in rural areas like this do have to travel pretty far to get to school.
Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit
My nearest town has a population of 1700. That does not count those living on farms outside of town limits whose children are in the school district. We also have student from 3 even smaller towns who attend our school. My son is graduating this year in a graduating class of 40. I think the typical class size (entire grade) is between 40-50. At the high school, there are about 2 teachers per subject in the subjects that most students take most years—social studies/history, English/language arts, math, physical education, and science. Then there are a number of other teachers who teach a variety of other subjects, from industrial technology to Spanish to agriculture to drivers ed. One science teacher teaches life sciences (biology, anatomy, zoology, etc) and the other teaches physical sciences such as chemistry and physics.
We do not have enough students for an honors program, but they do offer AP Calculus and AP Chemistry. Also, students are able to take online college courses for dual credit starting their junior year. During senior year, they can take two college classes online plus they can choose the math and English courses taught by qualified English and math teachers who teach at the high school and have advanced degrees. My son chose not to take online courses but did the two semesters of college math and two semesters of college English, so he will start college in the fall with some freshman level classes finished.
Something people might find interesting is that some schools combine athletic programs with other schools if they are too small to have their own teams. Sometimes the teams hyphenate the names of the schools, andsometimes they create a new name by mashng up parts of the names. They often choose a whole new mascot. Or, for example, students at our school who want to swim competitively travel to a neighboring school and swim on their team, since we don’t have a swim team. Our chess club competes as part of the chess club from a different neighboring school. We make it work, but it’s not unusual to travel 1.5 hours to a football game in the fall because we compete against other schools of similar size and sometimes have to travel far to find them.
Practical-Ordinary-6@reddit
Boarding at public high schools is not a thing so wherever your school is you have to be able to get to it from home every day. You might have a long bus ride but you're not going to stay there.
(There might be special circumstances schools that do things differently but I'm talking about the average everyday American High School not special cases. I don't need to hear about special cases.)
Llyrithra@reddit
When I was in school in north Idaho back in the early ‘00s the whole county was one school district and it had 3 high schools. Which one you went to depended on whether you lived in the Central Valley, northeast side of the lake, or on the western side of the county. If I recall correctly, shortly after I graduated, the western side of the county split off to be its own district.
RodgerRodger8301@reddit
Rural Alabama here ... my home town had an elementary school (k-6th) and a high school (7th-12th) in separate buildings on the same property. They shared resources like the gymnasium and lunch room. The high school is one of only two in the county, so there are district lines set up so everyone knows where to go from the surrounding communities.
Justmakethemoney@reddit
My school was in a town of <1000. We had our own K-12 school. My class was 27 kids, and was the largest in the school. The class under us had 17 kids, and was considered a small class.
This school still exists, and is still K-12. The graduating classes are closer to 15, and there's one grade with 4 kids.
In grades K-6, the classes were self-contained. This means that the classroom teacher teaches all the subjects. Grades 7-12 students go from room to room. Our teachers had general categories that they taught (English, science, math, social studies, PE, etc), and they would teach both jr. high and high school classes.
When you have schools this tiny, one thing that is relatively common is co-opping. You see this a lot with sports--the schools are too small to field their own teams, so 2 (or more) schools will join together and have a combined team. You can also see this with classes. Say one school has a music teacher, but another school doesn't. The neighbor school may offer to let the other schools' kids come over to do band or choir. Kids are bussed back and forth.
How's the education quality? Not great. In larger schools, there is the ability to group kids together based on ability level. In teeny tiny schools, you have the top of the class with the bottom. What functionally ends up happening is that the classes are taught to the least-smart kids. If you are at the top of the class....you're coasting. You're never challenged, you never learn how to study.
Another big problem is teacher retention. Rural schools can't pay very well, and lots of new college graduates don't want to live in a super rural (and insular) area, unless they're already from that area. So it can be very hard to get teachers, and a teacher leaving can create a huge vacuum.
When I was in high school, the math teacher quit. We spent a semester with substitute teachers, and then a semester with a student teacher (college student nearing graduation who needs in-classroom experience). In the following 3 years of high school, we didn't have a math teacher. On paper there was a teacher qualified to be teaching math.....but we weren't taught math.
ThingFuture9079@reddit
Usually several towns go to 1 specific school district like mine covered 3 towns and my class was one of the largest in the school's history because it was over 100 students whereas average size is between 80-90.
_Internet_Hugs_@reddit
My cousin lived in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere Arizona. A bus came and picked her up and took her to a different town where there were two schools: Elementary Kindergarten to 8th Grade and a High School 9-12th. There were other busses and they picked up kids from all over the area. She didn't graduate from there, but in her yearbook from the time she was there I think there were something like 32 Seniors.
A good friend of mine went to school in the middle of nowhere Utah. It was a similar setup, but there were only 17 kids in her graduating class.
SnooWalruses7243@reddit
I grew up in a town of less than 1000 people. The elementary, jr high, and high school was one building. Elementary was on one side, and you’d rarely see them. Jr high, you basically have the same teachers as high school. So you have 6 years with mostly same teachers. I absolutely loved growing up in a small town. I have my 20 year reunion in my small town this year, and we are getting together for a night at the local bar, decorating a farm trailer, and all riding through the small town parade
SabresBills69@reddit
In cities and suburbs most of the school district is divided up. Snall incorporated cities tend to have their own districts while towns snd villages might merge jnto kne school district.
Karge cities or county school districts usually have msgnrt schools thst dpfcislize in science snd engineering, visual snd performing arts, snd bocationsl/ trade schools
If schools gave different grades class sizes/ school bolime,in high school sports they are put into different divisions tied to student counts.
Mysvhool and a rival school has been playing each other in football fir well overc109 yrs. 6p yrs ago they gad the same enrollment numbers. Since then my city used up it developmentbksnd and has since fallen to around 130 or so class sizes. The neighboring city had a ton of land to develop on so its population grew and became around 300+ class sizes. They are now in different size groups snd one has dominated the other. Such that the rivalry might end.
CosyBeluga@reddit
I lived one place where they had 3 elementary schools (each with about 200 kids) and then we all went to the same middle and hs.
Fair-Constant-5146@reddit
All the coaches at my high school doubled as history and science teachers as well lol.
RedLegGI@reddit
For that small of a population they consolidate into one distinct made from multiple small towns.
redknight1969@reddit
My graduating class is 1987 had 62 students. My son graduated in 22 and had 43 in his class. Total at the high school is usually around 300. Small town Ohio, population about 5k.
Adorable_Dust3799@reddit
I'm in a rural mountain area. Our district covers 660 sq miles with some communities 30 miles apart. 4 elementary schools, 1 jr high and 1 sr high, with some charter schools here and there.
turdkuter@reddit
My school had around 500 for 7-12. Graduating class was 92.
xx2983xx@reddit
I went to high school in a town 20 miles away. It was three towns combined (populations approx 300, 800, and 2,000). I graduated in a class of 94 students.
Careless_Ocelot_4485@reddit
My BIL grew up in a tiny town. The K-12 was in one building and his graduating class had 13 people.
thomsenite256@reddit
It makes sense when you realize teenagers can drive at 16 in many places.
EatLard@reddit
They can drive by themselves at 15 here. Permit at 14.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
My kid went to small village school (census designated location with a church, gas station, and ES / HS (in portables)).
I don’t remember the ES numbers but a lot of the kids would take the 1-1/2 hour bus ride into city for large HS with activities. My kid opted for local HS, with maybe 400 students. Their graduating class was 85-90 students. School sports were cross country, frisby golf, and regular golf. There was no band, theater, or arts programs but there was choir. Most of the kids moved away after HS, either military or college.
My kid has been par-timing it at community college, living at home. They have no school loans, so that’s a plus.
Oh yeah Middle School was being bussed 15 miles to another village, that has a middle school. They took guitar there, 1 year.
HooksNHaunts@reddit
My county had schools that serviced areas. Multiple small towns used one school. It can result in roughly an hour drive to school for some kids.
I had two schools growing up. K-8 and 9-12. No middle school. Some did it differently with K-6 and 7-12.
They are combining all the high schools into one now
nomadicstateofmind@reddit
I’ve taught in some of the smallest schools in the US, located in rural Alaska. To stay open, we need at least 10 students across K–12. In some schools, I’ve taught all grades, in others I’ve taught K–5 or 6–12. I’m certified in elementary education, but I’ve taught every grade from pre-K through 12th, across all subjects. Some years, I’ve also been the principal, janitor, and cook.
We combine with other schools for sports and fly to neighboring villages to play three-on-three basketball or volleyball. We sleep at neighboring schools for a day or two. Even prom is a district-wide, combined event. It’s a whole different world.
Apprehensive_Use3641@reddit
Some of the smaller country high schools in the area have agreements with the nearby urban high schools for sports. If the smaller school only has a few interested in a sport they'll work a deal with a bigger school so the kids can play on that school's team.
RepresentativeCry294@reddit
Sometimes they consolidate, sometimes they do k-12, often times both.
GilroyRawrRawr@reddit
My Dad grew up in a small fairly remote town. His entire school district shared 1 campus and his graduating class was 11…. He has a twin. Basically there was far fewer options and electives in his school and each grade more or less was in 1 classroom each. I believe there was 1 building that had K-7 or 8 and another building that held 8 or 9-12, a 3rd building with the gymnasium and I think that was also the lunchroom. I grew up in a small town as well but much less remote. We had 4 elementary schools across 3 towns(K-5). 2 middle Schools(6-8) and then 1 high school(9-12).
EatLard@reddit
A lot of small school districts in my state are combined with two or more towns. It may take a whole county to have the tax base for the school system to have a single high school and a couple of primary schools. I think we had one school a while back with a graduating class of three.
In-person class options and sports tend to be pretty limited, but there are some online options where students can take more advanced classes for college credit or a foreign language their school doesn’t offer. The schools tend to be a pretty close-knit group because of the size.
Outrageous-Pin-4664@reddit
I don't know how it is in other states, but in Florida the school districts cover the entire county. If a county has a low population, they will typically only have one high school that all the kids go to.
JumpingJonquils@reddit
My small town had a population of under 1500 but the high school had more students than the total population of the town because it pulled in from areas outside of town limits. I graduated with almost 500 in my grade level, but it took me 45 minutes to drive to the school each day, and almost two hours by school bus.
msabeln@reddit
I work at a rural school with 135 students, in a district which has a total population of about 1600. The school is only pre-kindergarten through 8th grade, and the kids get to choose among four neighboring districts when going to high school. Each of the neighboring districts has a large high school with many teachers. We have one teacher each for pre-K through 4th grade, four subject teachers for upper grades, a music and art teacher for all of the students, a coach, several special education teachers, and a number of paraprofessionals. Furthermore, some of the staff double as coaches for particular sports teams.
Many rural school districts around here are “consolidated” districts which combined small schools and a large number of old one room schoolhouses (approximately one school every two miles) into large, modern campuses where the students are transported in via yellow school busses. My wife works in a school district at a small town of 4700, but it brings in large numbers of students from the surrounding countryside, with about 2000 students attending.
My state of Missouri has about 518 public school districts, with about 900,000 students, out of a total population of 6.27 million.
CycadelicSparkles@reddit
Combine schools. Occasionally they use a combined grade model too. It just depends on how small and how far from other towns/schools we're talking.
WhichWitch9402@reddit
My mom lived in a really tiny town. The elementary school was a combo of people from town and surrounding farms.
The high school was in a different town and several small towns sent kids there. She had 40 kids in her graduating class.
I live in Midwest now. There are two cities divided by a street - Division St. they have different school districts. The other city has more schools but they also take in a couple of smaller towns and farm areas in the area.
I had 1347 kids in my graduating class and my school did not have largest graduating class that year. There were 15 public high schools and 7 private in my city at the time.
Western-Finding-368@reddit
I grew up in a rural area outside a town of about 1100 people.
When I was in second grade, our school merged with the school in the neighboring small town. The youngest grades came to the school in my town, then the middle grades went to the school in the other town, and then the high school was in my town. People certainly weren’t boarding there, we just rode a bus for about 15 minutes.
High school was grades 7-12. We had just under 60 people in my graduating class. Teachers taught single subject but the subject was fairly broad. (Like, the biological sciences teacher taught two different grades of standard biology class and also human anatomy and also an ecology class.) Each class had anywhere from 25-ish people all the way down to the smallest class I had where there were 5 of us. Most were around 20.
Kielbasa_Nunchucka@reddit
I knew a guy who had a class of 12 (he used to brag that he was 10th in his class). he came from rural af OK.
SortaHow@reddit
The small remote town I grew up in had k-6 and then 7-12. We just got rid of middle school. My graduating class had 38 kids.
SysError404@reddit
Hi, Small town US American here.
So in most rural areas most small town send their children to largest town with a school (in some counties, there is only a single county wide school. My hometown has one school that covers 1/3rd of the county, 4 townships. My school has three buildings, an Elementary (grades K-5), Intermediate (6-8) and A high school (9-12). It covers about 130 square miles and currently enrolls 1700-1800 students.
Now just south of my hometown school district, there is a small town with its own school. It covers 43 square miles and enrolls about 430 students although they consolidate their sports teams with other larger districts.
Now for my district, yeah we covered every subject and then some. I graduated not only with my High school diploma, but with a vocational degree in computer technology as well. Now for teachers, some cover multiple classes but under the same subject. Like my Chemistry teacher also taught Biology. One of the Global History teachers, also taught US History. One that taught US History also taught Government and Economics..
As for classes, prior to 9th grade, classes are set by grade level. Once you hit high school, it's much like college. A Freshmen (9th grader) might opt to take Biology their first year. They will be in the same class as a senior (12th grader) that choose to hold off on their Science courses until their last year. High school is a lot like College, since that is what it's doing, preparing you for college. So you pick the classes you want to take, or at least when you will take the required classes necessary for state's graduation requirements, so classes are mixed. Then there are elective classes which can vary by school.
MaleficentExtent1777@reddit
The population of the town where I went to school was about 800 back then.
There were 3 separate schools K-4, 5-8, 9-12. My graduating class had about 83. Because I lived 7 miles outside of town, I rode the bus.
From many surrounding small towns and rural areas, we probably had about 400 total students.
blaspheminCapn@reddit
Bussing is a thing
Batgirl_III@reddit
I grew up in a very rural county in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula with an extremely low population, less than 8,000 people total. The entire county is served by one high school.
Students who could not drive themselves or be driven by their parents would take the bus… and it made for some very long bus rides for some students.
YourGuyK@reddit
My parents live just outside of a town of just under 400 people that has a K-12 school with around 459 students. Some of them bus as far as an hour one way. There are around 25 kids in each graduating class.
Because this town is in northern Minnesota lake country, a lot of school events are funded with charitable gambling (mainly pull tabs and meat raffles). Each graduate gets a $3,000 college scholarship from one charitable group, for sure.
Fun-Dragonfly-4166@reddit
my town was not that big but some neighboring towns were small.
one town had a k-8 school system and just paid my town to handle high school
Lzinger@reddit
My school had an elementary k-6 and a highschool 7-12. There were about 60 kids in each class.
There has been talks of merging the highschool with the next town over and making our highschool the middle school, but nothing has become of that.
quietly_annoying@reddit
My cousin farms near a town that's right around 1,000 people. Her kids attend a school where the preschool through grade 12 are all in the same building. Her oldest son recently graduated with a 9 other kids, who he had attended school with since preschool.
Now, her youngest child has some moderate physical disabilities... When he started kindergarten, there was a big hullabaloo since the school district didn't usually deal with children with his level of disability and they wanted him to attend school in a slightly bigger school in a town about 30 miles away... My cousin put her foot down, because she didn't want him to be "sent away" from the community where the rest of the family lives. So far this has worked for them, but they're thinking about sending him to the bigger town's school when he's ready for high school in a few years.
Interesting_Neck609@reddit
Had 20 something in the highschool, 2 teachers, one for math/ science stuff and one for art, English, and civics.
They were phenomenal humans, and many students went on to pretty renowned schools and lives.
tomhsmith@reddit
I went to a county high School.
Useful-Touch-9004@reddit
my home town has a population of like 1,400. we had pre K through 6th grade in town, for middle school and highschool, you went 2 towns over (only like 5 miles away). There was a school bus that would pick us up and bring us over. The reason it was 2 towns over, is because the neighboring city had multiple highschools and so it was easier to accommodate us over there. If you really didnt want to go to that school, you could go to one of the schools in the city nextdoor, but youd have to find your own transportation and the public transportation wasnt easy for that. Its more of an issue with the future generations because there are less and less kids in my hometown. in elementary school we had 40+ kids in my grade, but now it hear its half that.
emteeboyd@reddit
I currently live in a town of approximately 1,100 year-round residents in rural Michigan. We have an elementary school (K-5) building and a combined middle school (6-8)/high school (9-12) building. There are a couple of middle school only teachers and a couple of high school only teachers, but most of the teachers teach all of the grades. When my oldest graduated in 2019, she had approximately 30 students in her class; my 2023 graduate had 23 students in her class. I think there are 8 school districts in the county, with one district literally having 20 kids total K-12.
When we lived in a larger town, they went to a charter school that combined lower elementary (first through third grade) in one class (and there were 4-6 classrooms that were combined like this), upper elementary (4th-6th grade) in one class (also 4-6 classrooms combined like this), and had a normal middle school and normal high school. Each graduating class had about 40-60 kids.
Growing up in rural southern New Mexico, there were two elementary schools in the entire county, one middle school, and one high school. Students who lived at the outer edges of the county had to catch a bus at 6:00 a.m. to be at school by 8:15 a.m. There were teachers for every subject, often dedicated to a single grade level. My graduating class was about 120 people.
Teachers are assigned based on the credentials they have. For example, you won't have a math teacher teaching a Spanish language class unless they have appropriate education and certificate to do so. Special Education teachers have a specific certificate that allows them to teach special needs students; same with Health or Sex Education. The more certificates a teacher has, the more classes they can teach.
martlet1@reddit
I’m Missouri we have county schools and city schools. So if you live in a rural area you may go to the nearest county school with sometimes an hour school bus ride or more.
lcoursey@reddit
I live in and grew up in a small community in rural Kentucky. It used to be that the small little towns had K-12 schools in them, all in one building. Consolidation happened in the early 1980s, and they rebuilt K-8 schools to replace the old schools, and started bussing the kids from there to the county seat (the largest community in the county) for High School. They did this so High Schools were more consistent in size. What it really did was kill small communities. The community I grew up in was a village outside of a small town of about 700 people. There are 5 similar schools throughout the county, with one large high school of about 1200 students.
Small Community of \~1,000 people.
County Seat of \~7500 people
County Population \~25,000
gdubh@reddit
When I was in elementary school, two grades were in one room with one teacher — seven first graders and 8 second graders in one room with one teacher.
EvaisAchu@reddit
My town, when I graduated, had 422 people in the city limits. The middle school/high school population was 456. This is because most people were not in the city limits of any city/town but the schools are required to offer space to those within a certain distance. I was one of the students that didn't live in the limits (I had the option of attending three different school districts). There were 75 students in my graduating class. We never combined and had teachers for each subject.
I had a friend who went to a school of only 50 total. They had a teacher for each subject, but they taught all grade levels. From what I understood, they would only bundle students from different grades in the same class if they were not core subjects. She graduated with 5 people. I know that it really varies with the under 100 student school districts on how they handle things.
JtotheC23@reddit
My friend is from a town of like 2,000. School side of things was just their town and their 100 or so students. Extra circulars often combined with neighboring schools tho.
My friend was in the band which combined for marching band (football had to combine). He was also on the basketball team which didn’t combine.
LoooongFurb@reddit
That really varies depending on the state and the size of the town, etc. One of the smallest towns I've seen had its own K-12 public school - everyone was in the same building, and the graduating classes were pretty small - 30-50 kids.
Yes, some teachers can cover multiple subjects, depending on their qualifications. I taught English at a small private school, and I taught 7th and 11th grade every year, but also covered 8th grade a few times and the seniors one year. While most teachers stay within their specific subject area (science, history, etc.), they can teach different parts of that subject area.
MuchDevelopment7084@reddit
Most area's like that have consolidated school districts. Combing several area's into one unified school district.
CalamityKid_@reddit
My area only had an Elementary school which was K-6 and a high school 7-12.
hisamsmith@reddit
My high school was in a small town and two tiny towns around us funneled into our school. So the tiny towns each had a small elementary school and then starting in middle school (6-8 grade or 11-14 year old students) they were bused to our school. My sister lives in a county with a population of 15000 people total in the county. Around 2500 are Amish so they don’t attend public schools. The entire county has 2 jr high/high schools (7-12 grade) and 3 elementary schools (k-6 grade).
When I was a teen in the 90s I had a friend I met through Shriners Hospital where both of us were there for treatment who was from bumbfuck Wyoming. He did high school through the mail since the closest high school was a 2.5 hour drive away. This was before internet was available in the boondocks. A teacher would send instructional VHS tapes and assignments to him in the mail once a week and he would mail completed assignments back.
blipsman@reddit
For towns that small, the kids go to schools in other towns.
WalterWriter@reddit
I live in Montana.
Most towns will have a K-6 school of their own, sometimes even a one-room schoolhouse (one teacher and maybe an assistant or two for the whole school). Montana State University is one of the few universities in the country that still has a track for future one-room schoolhouse teachers.
Middle school and high school are combined into one or two schools per county except in counties with the largest cities. I live in Park County, where the main towns are Livingston, Gardiner, Clyde Park, and Emigrant. There is a K-12 school in Gardiner where the graduating class is now always under twenty. Otherwise, the only high school is here in Livingston. Gallatin County next door is one of the most-populated in Montana (Bozeman is in Gallatin County) and has at least five public high schools and at least one and maybe two private high schools.
Some rural counties in the middle of eastern Montana might not even have K-12 schools of their own; some of these counties are the size of small European countries but have 500-odd residents in total. There's a lot of home-schooling in such places, and in Montana generally.
We_R_the_Penguins@reddit
Towns that small are usually part of a county that has a school system. Some kids do have long bus rides to get school though.
mst3k_42@reddit
My high school was a combination of kids around the county. I think 1,000 students total. And I had a very long bus ride. We had to stop at the elementary school and change buses too.
Outside_Orchid_1576@reddit
County schools. Not city. All systems near me are county ran.
bangbangracer@reddit
My parents grew up in a city so small, they went to a county high school. It still is a county high school. One county over from where I currently live, there are these little unincorporated towns that have no schools, so all their kids go to the closest town's schools.
It's not uncommon for smaller towns to combine their schools and pool resources. Makes some of the bus rides long though.
Lost-Time-3909@reddit
My town was slightly over 1000, but I had a graduating class of 34 and think that’s close enough.
K-12 were in two buildings but shared cafeteria/buses/etc. K-6 in one and 7-12 in another. In elementary, there were usually two teachers per grade and the junior high/high school had 1-2 teaches per subject, so they would cover all the classes within those subjects. Teachers have to take different state exams for each the areas they want to be certified to teach in.
cyberchaox@reddit
For small towns in sparsely populated areas: yeah, they just have really small schools for the younger grades, and for grades 9-12 they ship them out to larger schools out of town.
For small towns in densely populated areas, they just combine a few nearby towns. I grew up in a small town, when I was growing up we had a single school for grades K-8, only one class per grade level (for grades K-5, it'd be one teacher teaching all subjects; for 6-8, it was one teacher for each subject who you'd have for that subject for three years straight), and then for 9-12 we went to a regional high school with kids from five other nearby towns.
By the time I was in my twenties, the demographics of my town had shifted enough that there were now only 4 total classes covering grades K-5 instead of six. I think it was grades 1-2 and 3-4 that were merged.
Now I'm in my thirties, and they've outright shifted the school in my town to just be grades K-4; grades 5-8 are instead going to the grade 5-8 school in one of those "five other nearby towns".
Except here's the twist: you defined a "small town" as 100-1000 people. At no point during this constant downsizing has the population of my hometown ever dropped below 1000 (though it's always been well short of 2000, usually below 1500). The decreasing need for schooling in my hometown is just from the average age of the town going up.
Melcher@reddit
All of the towns around me (500-2500 pop) have their own school and it drives me nuts.
So much more opportunity if they would combine
The largest class in our school is 22 students and the smallest is 8.
InvertedJennyanydots@reddit
Had a friend in college from Earth, TX and they combined with another small town for their school district. She still was in a graduating class of 8. It looks like now it is more like graduating classes of around 20. But that's a consolidated district for a town of less than 200 people and a town of less than 1000 people. I think it depends on how rural you are. There's rural but wth multiple towns of a few thousand in one county and then there's rural with no town over 1000 people and nothing near by. But generally consolidated school districts are pretty common in rural areas and kids are often taking long bus rides to get to school.
K_N0RRIS@reddit
They combine schools. if a town is small enough, the Elementary school will be in the same campus as the High School and They'll probably break up the grade groupings from K - 8 in elementary school and 9-12 grade in high. Or however they wanna do it.
pippintook24@reddit
my niece who is in elementary school have three or four towns in one building, and my nephew's school was a combination of the middle school and high school students.
I don't know how many students are in the graduating HS class yet, as my nephew will not be part of it. have to wait until my niece is graduating.
wino12312@reddit
Most of the ones around me, are K-12. And have a graduating class of 25-50. My class was 214, and that was the largest to graduate in the almost 100 years of the school operating. Yes, one of my classes was built in 1912.
Robertm922@reddit
The high school I went to back in the 90s was part of a county system in Alabama, Etowah County School System. There are 6 high schools in the system.
We were the big school with between 500-600 at that time, they have almost 900 now. The smallest only has a little over 300 students and is 7-12.
ColorlessGreen91@reddit
I grew up in a town with a population that hovered right around 200. The school itself had about 200 students as well, since many even smaller nearby towns and all the families living outside of town on farms would all send their students here. We had bus routes to the whole area served by the district except for in-town residents who could just walk.
My graduating class was the biggest in the whole school at the time, we had a little over 30 kids and we were the first class that the school had to hire an extra teacher so that we could be split into two classrooms. The whole school was basically one building with 3 sections for elementary, middle, and high school.
In the high school section, there was 1 teacher for each basic subject who taught all the related classes. For example we had one science teacher who taught chemistry, biology, physical science, etc. In the entire school we had 1 music teacher, 1 art teacher, and 1 gym teacher who served the entire school from kindergarten through 12th grade. The gym teacher also coached all the school sports and taught health class. He was a busy guy.
We had two libraries and 1 cafeteria. We had 1 primary gym and two smaller ones, one of which was literally an old bar that was mainly used for indoor recess and theater. The other secondary gym was primarily used as the school cafeteria, but also sometimes hosted events along with the main gym where all the indoor sports took place.
dell828@reddit
My town had their own grade school 1-5, middle school 6-8, but the high-school 9-12 was a 2 town regional school, built exactly on the town line.
kmoonster@reddit
Depends on the state. In my state as a kid, schools were divided into "class" but not class as in classroom or age. "Class" in terms of school size was the total student population.
Class A had thousands of students in a single high school
Class D, the smallest, had fewer than 150 students in a single high school
These were mostly used for sorting out sports-related things so competition wasn't unfairly biased toward schools with larger programs, but it was also useful for things like bus drivers and other staff, which teachers do which materials, and policies such as "can community members use school property and for what purposes".
Our two science teachers taught all science subjects, not necessarily each subject each term. One term they might do biology, general science, and physics. Another term they might do chemistry, general science, and earth science.
The teacher who did sex education also did home economics (cooking, balancing a bank account, taxes, etc) and other life-skills classes.
Social studies, civics, government, and history were often overlapped.
The only topics that didn't occasionally get overlap were foreign languages, but I think that's because you can't really teach a foreign language if you only have general knowledge about it. A history teacher could (conceivably) do an "Introduction to Arts & Literature" course at the high school level with only an intensive summer program meant for teachers doing cross-over, but you can't do the same for teaching a foreign language.
This wouldn't work for college courses, but for grade-school and high school it works well enough.
MyLittlPwn13@reddit
Rural students are often on school busses for hours, because there's only one high school for several towns. Even then, it's really small. I remember one high school in my state had a graduating class of six kids.
ShakeWeightMyDick@reddit
Some combine middle school and high school on the same campus
alpha309@reddit
I grew up in a town with 800-900 people.
For K-6 we went to a small school in our town. There were between 15-20 kids per class.
For 7-8 we went to a giant school in the middle of 12 other towns all ranging from the 500-1200 range. This school was 15 miles from the town I lived in. 7-8 classes were grouped by a random assignment of people from all 12 towns in 2 groups of about 125 students in each group. It was set up kind of like high school so we changed teachers with subjects, but not quite so specialized so we could mingle with the kids from other towns and adjust to having more students than the 15-20 we were used to.
Then high school was in a building attached to that 7-8 school. It was a pretty big complex out in the middle of corn fields. High school for us was block 4, meaning we only had 4 classes per semester and they switched every semester. In the fall a course schedule would look like Spanish, Geometry, History, Biology and in the spring it would be Algebra, English, PE, and Statistics. Each class was like 2 hours long and would cover a full years worth of lecture in half the time. This is also the time they started fully mixing us with the entire population of the entire school district and we had opportunity to have classes with everyone. Because of the way the school was set up you could have classes with anyone in the 4 grades because you could in theory finish all your math requirements fast while a senior went slower, or you could have put off all the language requirements until the very end.
iampatmanbeyond@reddit
I rode a bus about 45 minutes one way everyday to go to school. Most small school houses in the US closed and consolidated in the 60s and 70s. You will go to a modern school just depends on how far the bus is gonna have to take you
Springlette13@reddit
I had a regional high school in my town. My 8th grade class was around 70 students, but I graduated with around 175. I think there were 5 towns who sent students to our school.
3catlove@reddit
I live in a small town and our school is a K-12 in one school with around 30 kids per class. Most classes have two sections. My son is in high school now. They share resources like the gym, lunch room, auditorium. Same choir teacher for elementary through high school. I guess I’m not sure if the same science teacher will teach chemistry, biology, etc. He’s taking a computer science course now and the same teacher teaches the business classes. His junior and senior year he will take some dual enrollment courses at the local community college and that picks up some of the gaps that our school doesn’t have the resources to provide. There are some drawbacks in a small school such as not as diversified courses. For instance Spanish is the only foreign language offered which my son wouldn’t have chosen. There are some positives too though. For instance the Principal sits down with anyone who works a school permit to go over the driving rules with them before he signs off on it and he knows every kid. Most of his classes max out at 15 kids per class.
Growing up I lived in a small town but went to a bigger district where everyone was bussed in from the little towns.
Crafty-Isopod45@reddit
Towns and school districts don’t a,ways have the same geography. In rural areas a school district could be massive covering many small towns and see kids with hour or more long rides to and from school.
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess-@reddit
The district separated the nearest surrounding towns into 3 different elementary schools. My elementary school was the smallest. One teacher for every subject (math, english, history, science, health, and 1 teacher that was in charge of the library, computer lab, and the art class). They taught all grades 3-5. Each grade had a class of like 20 some kids. My grade was the largest with like 30 some kids. Every grade had 1 homeroom teacher except for mine that was split into two homerooms. Kindergarten through 2nd grade had everything taught by one teacher and a teacher’s aid. 3rd through 5th grade would switch between classes together with their homeroom. The day would end back with the main homeroom teacher until busses and parents came. Each grade had lunch together as a whole. Times went in order from youngest to oldest. Lunch was like 30 minutes.
In middle school the 3 different elementary school populations combined into one. I think we had a population of like 350. We were split into randomly assigned homerooms where they took attendance. We all had unique schedules that we had to keep track of. We just switched classes every 30-40 minutes. Every grade had a different teacher for each subject. I think like 3 of the teachers also doubled as coaches for various sports. If you joined band or choir then it would be all the grades together at the same time. Our lunch blocks were included in our schedules and it had all grades eating together. There were 3 lunch blocks.
High school was the exact same as middle school except for the fact we were allowed to choose our schedules. Our 2-3 extracurricular classes (art, coding, spanish, journalism, band, choir, etc.) would often have multiple grades together at the same time like in middle school. Lunch was the same as middle school. My graduating class was 127.
Adorable-Growth-6551@reddit
Small schools exist. My children have class sizes of about 15 kids. They just do not have money for the nicer things, their track is dirt, the building is old, the buses are old.
They do often share teachers with neighboring small schools, teachers like speech, OT, things kids only usually use once or twice a week. We have the elementary in one small town (200) and the junior high/high school in a second small town (600). The towns are about 20 miles apart by highway.
punkwalrus@reddit
My first marriage, my wife grew up in a small town in a dying coal mining town in Appalachia. They consolidated the schools from neighboring towns, and unincorporated areas. You usually had to walk a great distance to a main road to get a passing school bus (at least, in the 1970s). If you were lucky, some landowner built a covered shelter. School was K-5, 6-9, and 10-12, but some were a combined K-6, then 7-12, and a few were just one building for everything, including day care for all the teens who had kids of their own. In fact, almost all high schools had on-site day care for both vocational training as well as teen's kids from the 1970s onwards.
I think my wife's graduating class was around 100 people. Her high school was a former private mansion which was then refitted to be a school in the late 1800s. Hers was the 100th graduating class, and shortly thereafter was turned into part of a local college annex. They got a new high school one town over, state of the art for 1990s.
My wife's high school was as close as a Rockefeller painting stereotype as you could get: the cheerleaders and football players were popular, the whole school was unified by school spirit, and if fact, my wife got her letter jacket from managing and organizing stuff like pep rallies, yearbook, and charity functions. She got her face and name in all the papers. I still have a huge collection of her stuff from that era after she passed away, and not sure what to do with it all.
A lot of "clubs" had huge school representation and sponsorship roles: Key club (Rotary), Lion's Club, Elks Lodge, Freemasons, and even the local VFW. Local businesses got their name and logo on sports uniforms and banners around the school. Their yearbook was FULL of ads.
Technical-Bath9108@reddit
I grew up in a town of 450 people. There was a single school for K-12. There were 14 in my senior class in 1994 (we were on the large side) and there were 6 in my brother's senior class in 1995 (they were on the small end).
Ruth-Stewart@reddit
My local schools (1 K-12 in one town, other town has an elementary school and a middle/high school) have graduating classes of 8-20 generally. Each of the 3 schools has around 150 kids. I’m not sure exactly what the teacher breakdown is these days but it used to be one for each grade or subject and I assume it’s still that way
funkoramma@reddit
My state has one of the few public boarding schools in the US. The county is so large and rural that it doesn’t make sense for kids to be transported daily. Students are dropped off on Sunday and head back home on Thursday. There are less than 100 students.
byte_handle@reddit
It depends on how small it is. In those extreme cases, it's often more cost-effective for a couple of small neighboring communities to combine themselves into a single school district. While they'll try to make a small elementary school in each community if they can, they would just have one high school and bus the students there.
In the town I lived in when I graduated from high school, they tore down all three high schools a couple years ago because the population had dropped so dramatically. They built a new high school in a more centralized location to bus students in from around the town. The town is still fairly large in terms of land area, but enrollment had plummeted over decades, to the point that operating multiple high schools, all of which were already in need of serious rehabilitation, just wasn't financially feasible. So they were destroyed and the land was sold
shammy_dammy@reddit
For my children, they attended the same school building from pre k -12th grade. The graduating class size varies between 20-30 students. They have 16 junior high/high school teachers. They have subject teachers in math, english, science, etc. So for example, the math teacher will teach different math courses during the day and the students revolve in and out of their classroom.
MamaLlama629@reddit
The town my family settled has approximately 250 people in it. The school is K-12. A few years ago when we visited they had something like 65 students and the graduating class was like 8.
Waisted-Desert@reddit
I lived in a rural county, about 40,000 residents for 1,400 sq mi. There was 9 schools total servicing 6 cities, 2 towns, 8 census-designated places, and 12 unincorporated communities. 4 Elementary schools, 3 combined middle/high schools, and 2 combined elementary/middle/high schools. The larger graduating class is about 150 students.
The students not directly in the cities may travel 20-40 miles to attend school.
FifiiMensah@reddit
It either consists of one school for one town or one school for multiple schools
Th3MiteeyLambo@reddit
I grew up in a town of 700-800.
We didn't have a separation between Elementary, Middle, and High school. K-12 was in the same building. It was a rather large building, and there was a soft separation where K-6 was in one half and 7-12 on the other.
As a student in K-6, you were in the same classroom with the same teacher for all subjects minus Gym and Keyboarding, which were in the Gym/Outside and the Computer Lab respectively.
As a student in 7-12, you had a locker and teachers were more specialized per subject, so you had to walk around to each class throughout the day. If you wanted to take a class that required more specialized equipment or teachers, such as auto shop, construction, programming, languages, etc. you either would have had to drive 30 minutes or so to a much larger town that had those as options OR do remote classes via a room-level webcam.
For sports, we were combined with other small towns in the area to be able to have enough kids for a team. Depending on where it was, we had to drive 30 minutes in order to get to and from practices/games.
Where I felt it most was in the lack of variety of classes. I didn't have the option to do things like A-levels or the anything like that. BUT IMO we were fortunate that we even had our local school instead of having to drive to one of the big towns.
ID_Poobaru@reddit
I graduated in a class of 5, every grade was in the same building with high school and middle school sharing teachers
slightlystitchy@reddit
I had to get bussed to the next town over to go to high school because my small town only went from K-8. My graduating class ended up being around 40 kids total at the bigger school.
In high school, the teachers tended to spread out in their chosen subject. So my favorite science teacher did physical science, chemistry, advanced chemistry, and physics. Whereas the other science teacher did biology, anatomy, and other life sciences. The same thing happened for any other subjects. We didn't offer any in person foreign languages and they could only be taken as dual credit from a local community college.
Some classes were mixed grades. For example, typically kids are supposed to take biology (a requirement for graduation) during their junior year. Well, my luck was I couldn't fit both biology and advanced chemistry into my schedule so I took biology my senior year with the juniors.
The current issue in most of the small schools near me is teacher retention and test scores. I was told my entrie elementary school life that test scores were what got the school a lot of their budget (we were a Title I school). No idea how that all works now, though.
Neither_Pudding7719@reddit
Local towns do K-8 or sometimes even K-4 or 6 and then either host ir send to regional MS and/or HS.
AnastasiusDicorus@reddit
Our local catholic school only has about 7-15 students per grade. Works the same as any school, just smaller classes.
psylentrob@reddit
My town, of a couple hundred people, busses students to one of two town's for high school. I had a roughly 1 hour bus ride, each way, to get to my high school of choice.
groundhogcow@reddit
We combine 6 tinny towns that would have has about 20 kids each into one and get a class of 120 in one location. Bussing is a thing we manage.
tujelj@reddit
I live on a state line. There’s a tiny town right across the border with under 200 people. In other places, their kids would probably come to the much bigger town I live in for school — but since they’re different states, that doesn’t work. They do, however, draw kids from even smaller towns nearby on the other side of the state line. Even so, there are fewer than 200 students in the school.
Khajiit_Has_Upvotes@reddit
I grew up in a town with a population of about 400. Elementary school was bussed to another nearby small town, and after 6th grade we all went to the same middle/high school.
Where I live now, rural farming area, all the tiny towns have their own elementary schools but get bussed to middle/high school in other towns.
coldrunn@reddit
Like always, New England is different than the rest of the country.
Typically school districts end at town limits. In the rest of the country, there is space between towns, here there isnt (except Maine). So you have 351 potential districts. Some towns are small so they either go with a tiny school (my kid's graduating class is 61). Most tiny towns "Regionalized" - they make regional high schools. The regional high school that surrounds my school district has 5 feeder towns and 436 kids graduating this month.
Then there are regional vocational schools. Our Vocational school is open to enrollment from 18 towns and has 356 kids graduating this year.
And cause you asked, my school has a K-5 building and a 6-12 building. At 7th grade you have unique teachers like everywhere else.
a13xis_@reddit
I went to a tiny school district outside Cincinnati, Ohio. All grades were on one campus and there were less than 30 kids per grade.
For some high-school classes, like chemistry and physics they were only offered every other year. I ended up moving my junior year and was in Physics at the small school. But the school i moved to, Physics was a senior class, so I was in class with all seniors and my senior year I was with juniors. My other high-school was also considered pretty small as my graduating class was 122 kids.
pensivepricklypear@reddit
I attended a K8 and the high school, while in my town (technically I lived in unincorporated county but always told people i was from the next existing town) had the high school, it drew from about the 4-5 next smallest towns/unincorporated county ppl like myself.
Combining of grade levels in the same classroom is indeed very common, and was surprised to learn this isn't usual at other schools. (Where as more populated towns have "honors" classes, advanced 9th graders were just placed in 10th or 11th grade "normal" math classes, same for english, social studies, etc.)
There was not separate teachers for every subject. We had an English teacher, and a math teacher yeah- but not a "physics" or "biology" teacher. The physics teacher taught Earth Science, physics, chemistry, and an engineering elective. The biology teacher taught biology, chemistry, an anatomy class, and study hall.
Our history teacher was our french teacher. Spanish teacher also taught English some years. In bigger schools i suppose they wouldn't have to double dip so much. I don't know too much about qualifications, I just knew they had passed the state teaching test. It is pretty common for a teacher to cover multiple subjects, but I guess i'd never thought about that much.
With online school, even if our high school didnt offer something (we did have AP English and AP Math options), you could register to take it online. So it's not like we lost out on too much opportunity.
External_Affect2391@reddit
We had one middle/high school in the school district for 5 towns to combine to in rural New England. Consistently the senior graduating class would flucuate between 100-120 kids. Growing up, each town had about 1-4,000 people on each town and each town had one elementary school each. Now I hear some of the elementary schools have even closed and consolidated, which is sad.
nononomayoo@reddit
I have family in a very rural part of CA and they have a lot of combo classes. Like multiple grades in one class room. No idea how this works but i was like 12 when they explained it to me lmao
Weary_Anybody3643@reddit
They get merged into one district traditionally I don't know about every small town and especially in areas where the closest other small town might be really far away they might just have a small little school but like I have family that lives in a couple towns of like 500 less and they have like the three towns in the area they built a school system in the middle
beerdeer101@reddit
My hometown in the north woods of Michigan had its high school incorporate three communities, one of which was about 20 minutes away. The elementary and middle had the other two the whole time. I lived in the farther away one for a while and a 45-minutes bus ride was common
EmotionalCattle5@reddit
The small towns I know of, have had graduating classes with 2 kids, 6 kids, 10 kids in consecutive years...that school ended up consolidating with another very small school nearby. I don't know the exact class sizes now, but from what I've seen the class sizes for elementary are larger (30ish or so kids) while the high school aged classes were smaller (around 10-15). Frankly, I don't have a damn clue how they are still in operation other than the teachers/staff are paid very little and most teachers are making more money by double dipping by doing more than one job such as coaching, admin/secretary work, maintenance, bus driving, etc.
AleroRatking@reddit
Our school district is 12 different towns and spans over an hour long by car. We graduate about 120.
LilOpieCunningham@reddit
I graduated with a class of 13 in a town with 400 people. There was one school campus, with one building for elementary school and one building for junior high and high school.
There was usually one combined class in elementary school. So of K-6th grade, maybe 2nd/3rd grades would be combined. In the upper grades, most teachers taught junior high and high school. We had one social studies teacher, one English teacher, one science teacher who doubled up on some math, one math/English teacher, one math teacher who also taught PE, one shop teacher who also taught drama and PE, one k-12 special Ed teacher who also taught PE, one music teacher who taught the entire k-12, one home ec teacher who also taught art and sat in to monitor the satellite-fed Spanish class.
English, Math, Social Studies and Science were taught by people with credentials in those areas. A lot of the elective-type stuff was sort of split up between the faculty depending on schedules and willingness.
There were nearby towns who consolidated schools, (some consolidated their entire schools, some just the high schools) but ours was a little too remote to do that practically.
bibliophile222@reddit
The school district I work for has 5 small elementary schools, one for each town; two middle schools (one for the biggest town, one for the other 4); and one centrally located high school.
-Moose_Soup-@reddit
For small towns under 1000 people, they often serve an area that encompasses a couple of small towns and the surrounding rural community. It just deepends on how close the towns are to each other. In those rural areas of the country, school districts typically just have one school, maybe two schools (one for lower grades and another for high school). School districts have to be small enough for every kid to have access to the school bus system, so there are practical limits on how much geographical area a single district can serve.
I grew up outside of town, but near two small towns with fewer than 1,000 people each. We had one K-12 school that served both towns. I went to the same school in the same building for my entire K-12 schooling, but there were three "wings" of the building to keep grade school, middle school, and high school relatively separate. My graduating class had fewer than 30 kids, maybe around 24, can't remember. There were probably fewer than 100 kids in my high school in any given year. Some teachers did teach multiple subjects, but not as much as you might think. An example was an English teacher who also taught German. She was qualified because she had multiple degrees. None of our grades were ever combined, and in grade school, each grade had two teachers, so each grade was split into two homerooms.
bigevilgrape@reddit
I lived somewhere rural that had no high school. The towns in the area paid to send the kids elsewhere, but I'm foggy on the details of how it worked. I think there were a couple private schools and a couple public schools that they could pick from.
Mrsabeaverhousen@reddit
I'm from small town IA, and we had k-12 in one building, sharing the big spaces. Gym, music room, art room etc.
32 kids in my class
Head_Razzmatazz7174@reddit
We've got a few smaller communities around us that have one elementary school, one middle school and one high school. There are some places that are close enough to bigger districts that parents have the option to send them to the bigger schools in the city.
CaptainAwesome06@reddit
They consolidate tiny towns into one school district. Some teachers teach multiple subjects. Sometimes you just have a small school.
My cousin graduated in a class of 35 kids. I graduated with 700. My sister graduated with over 1,000 kids in her class.
Aware_Negotiation605@reddit
My graduating class was 43!
We had 44 but one did not graduate with us. She ran away with her boyfriend to Columbia of all places. They had a couple of kids and broke up. He moved back, she stayed.
Helo227@reddit
My high school took in students from about 5 small towns in the area because those towns didn’t have high schools themselves.
FreshHotPoop@reddit
Grew up in a town of 850! My graduating class had 44 in it which was pretty large. My little brothers only had 18.
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
In the Northeast, each town or cluster of towns will have its own small school. In some other parts of the country, the school districts cover a wider geographic area, and students might have to commute several hours a day.
I once read an article about a girl who lived on an isolated cattle ranch in Wyoming - for k-6 she had her own public school with one teacher, but they said she would have to switch to online classes starting in 7th grade.
ElectionProper8172@reddit
I am a teacher in a small town we combine the towns so the schools are bigger. Our graduate about 50 kids per year. That is way down from the 90s when we graduated about 120 a year.
Efficient_Advice_380@reddit
Either k-12 schools, with graduating classes being as small as 10 students, or county-wide schools
Zappagrrl02@reddit
My dad lives in a town where there are like 20 kids per grade. The entire K-12 is basically in the same school but the K-8 is slightly separated from 9-12. In parts of the Upper Peninsula, kids sometimes ride the bus for over an hour or to get to their school.
DabbledInPacificm@reddit
Small town teacher here: currently teach 7th 8th 9th and 11th courses (in two languages at that). It’s not so bad
OceanPoet87@reddit
Our county has about 2k people. We have one school district for the whole county other than a few small parcels where single digits of farmers live.
For elementary school they have a teacher and teacher assistant for each grade. My son's grade is large so it has two classes of the grade. There is an art teacher, a counselor, and a pe teacher. The superintendent is also the principal and is currently in charge of the HS because that principal retired.
For HS they have a few teachers who teach subjects according to their certification and ability.
Other districts in my state may have a k-5 in a smaller community and have everyone go to a middle or HS in the larger town.
There is even a district a few hours away that still has a one room schoolhouse. It is in a mountainous area with a large lake.
In CA, my family would always camp at a place on the Big Sur coast for New Years. There is a tiny school nearby that does all grades and they do a lot of stuff outside. They only have school mon-thur which was basically unheard of before covid 20 years ago. Most of the district is is in a national forest without a real town.
Crazycatlover@reddit
Both of my parents went to high schools of fewer than 100 students. They then went to college and did just fine.
On a humorous note, my uncle's high school told his parents that he was doing quite well and that they should encourage him to finish high school and even consider college. Said uncle is now the chair of his department at his university.
On a decidedly non-humorous note, I went to a high school of 4000 students in a larger city. 4 people (three students, one teacher) died in the first week of school. I remember my father reassuring me so sincerely that this was unusual and nobody would die in the rest of my three years of high school. He was mistaken.
I think the US handles education reasonably well despite population even if we have different experiences.
AppendixF@reddit
I live in a town of about 300 people and the next town over (2 miles away from us) is about 300 people as well. We share a K-12 school. One building that all kids attend. My son's grade has about 9 or 10 students and the graduating classes are about that size too. It's a great school system with awesome staff. I really appreciate the small student to teacher ratio as I think kids are less likely to fall through the cracks.
captain_nofun@reddit
As a town of 500 and a county of about 2000 its just like other schools but a little more relaxed. I graduated in '06 with a class of 39. Most all teachers specified in a subject, although many coached as well. Many kids drive 4wheelers to school, many bring guns, not a problem. They are for hunting and you just check them in. If you have good grades and are well behaved you can roam the school all you like. Even coming back there 20 years later I can still just walk in and roam the school. There is a sense of piece I dont think larger schools get. It was a wonderful time in my life and I wish more people could experience it.
S2Sallie@reddit
Growing up we had 1 school for k-8. For high school, we could choose between 3 schools. All were about 15 min drive away. My senior year, they opened a performing arts school in my town. I obviously went there and I think there were 30-40 kids in my class. Now that it’s been almost 20 years, more kids go to the school so the graduating classes are larger but not every student from my town goes to that school. They can still pick between 2 other schools to go to. The performing arts school only has basketball/volleyball, so any other sport the kids play is played at one of the other 2 schools.
QueenKeyrona@reddit
My graduating class was maybe 130. A small town next to us had a graduating class of 1. It just depends on where it is and if the community can keep the school running. I believe they had K-12 in the same building. While we went to 4 different buildings through the grades.
elphaba00@reddit
My class size was about 130. For both of my parents, I went to a big high school. They didn’t go to the same high school, but each of them graduated from a class of about 70
Matchaasuka@reddit
I didn't realize school districts aren't the norm. Typically there are multiple towns, where I am they usually each have their own elementary school (K-5) and then they share a middle and high school (6-8 & 9-12th grade). The whole district has a school board and share buses, the one i went to had 5 towns in it, plus 1 additional town that only shared the high-school because they had their own K-8.
jrc_80@reddit
In Pennsylvania, state funding per student varies widely with little consideration for need and economically disadvantaged student populations. Rural, sparsely populated counties top the list of highest recipients of state funding. For specious & unknown reasons by our defunct, pay to play state legislature.
AbiWil1996@reddit
I lived in a small town and we still had an elementary, middle, and high school. They were all just right next door to each other. Elementary & middle school students have one teacher for all subjects. High school had a different teacher for each subject, although some taught more than one subject or were actually a sports coach that got pulled in to teach lol.
uhbkodazbg@reddit
My high school graduating class was about 30 students. It was an hour bus ride (bus only about 30 minutes when I got my license and was able to drive). Some high school classes only had 5-6 students in them. We didn’t have as many electives as many other schools but it largely operated like any other school.
pop361@reddit
The district I teach at has three K-12 attendance centers. At the high school level, there are also two satellite campuses: one for vocational courses and one for advanced classes. The high school schedules are designed to allow students time to travel back and forth as necessary.
HorrorAlarming1163@reddit
My dad went to a high school that served his whole county. I think he had a graduating class of 50ish people if I remember correctly
elphaba00@reddit
This was in the way back times when really small high schools still existed, but a friend’s dad would jokingly brag that he graduated in the top 10 of his high school. To those who weren’t in the know, that sounded impressive. To the rest of us, we knew his class size was about a dozen
sneezhousing@reddit
They usually combine with nearby cities
ChadTitanofalous@reddit
45 years ago, there were 36 kids in my graduating class in Wisconsin. I have a nephew in a nearby town who was one of five in his graduating class five years ago.
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
I live in a rural Texas area. The county seat is the biggest town and it graduates about 100 kids a year. The other nearby communities have their own high schools and graduate about 10-20 kids a year. They are grouped by size for sports. The small schools are 1a and play six man football. They can play the other rural schools in sports without traveling too far. The bigger school is 3a and we had to travel pretty far to play regular football with other schools our size. The teaching is pretty typical, yes they have different teachers for different subjects. Coaches teach a lot of history, math, and biology along with their coaching duties though. Things like counselors travel from school to school.
Norwester77@reddit
This is going to be very localized, because K-12 education is pretty much entirely within the purview of the individual states, and much of the policy making is left to individual school districts.
In Washington, high schoolers from very low-population districts typically go to high school in a neighboring district with more people and resources.
aWesterner014@reddit
When I lived in Iowa, we were in a town of about 1500 people. The school district covered the entire western half of the county. Which was a result of the smaller towns to the north and south closing their schools and routing their kids to ours. It wasn't uncommon for the kids in the extreme parts of the district to be on the bus for over 30 minutes to school and from school.
My graduating class was roughly 48. All grades (k-12) were in a single building.
When I lived in rural South Dakota, we were in a town of about 300. Kindergarten had their own teacher/classroom. First and second grade shared a teacher/classroom. The same with third and fourth grade as well as fifth and sixth grade. Starting with seventh grade, we were all bussed to the next town over.
There were roughly 4 in my grade (and 7 in my classroom) when we moved out of town.
pawsplay36@reddit
Either by consolidating school districts so several towns share one high school, or just running K-12 schools.
Dylaus@reddit
My high school served four towns. My graduating class was sixty something people I think
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
In Florida, each county has its own school district. One high school can serve multiple small towns or unincorporated areas. Rural Liberty County, for example, has one high school that draws from the whole county.
Colonel_Gipper@reddit
A friend from college graduated high school with 22 kids. They'd pull from nearby farms. Big difference from my class of 760.
wheezy_cheesey@reddit
Our local high school is a combination of 5 local towns all sharing borders with each other
Each town operates its own grade school
The high school has graduating classes of 300-400
FoggyGoodwin@reddit
My township didn't have a high school. HS students were bused to town for high school.
Radiant-Pomelo-3229@reddit
One school in the whole county. Very common and rural parts of Georgia and our counties are kind of small though it could still be like 20 miles to School
astrosergeant@reddit
We had a regional high school, 8 towns in one.
North_Artichoke_6721@reddit
Often times teachers will teach a core subject and a related elective (for example: my English Literature teacher also taught Drama). They might also teach multiple grade levels.
They might combine all the students into one building, my school was sort of L-shaped and had Pre-K through Grade 5 on one side and 6-12 on the other, with the main office in the middle.
My graduating class was 22 people.
mrOwl_1312@reddit
We had 4 schools buildings in 4 towns that made up our district. My graduation clashes something like 70 kids
idontknowsothis@reddit
theres one county in maryland with only one high school roughly a third the size of rhode island, kent county high school
MortimerDongle@reddit
It varies by state but in Pennsylvania, school districts are generally multiple municipalities and can cross county lines. My local school district covers about five municipalities in two counties (one of the municipalities is in two counties).
4rm4ros@reddit
Oooh I can answer this! My town was about 2500 people! Our highschool was a separate building from the middle and elementary schools, and class sizes were 15-30 people. The entire high school had a student population of about 350 students. My graduating class had 83 people
mmarkmc@reddit
A small town just north of where I am in California has one school for K-8, with only 2-3 classrooms and kids of multiple grades in each. After that, kids have a 50 mile bus trip to the nearest high school in another city. It’s wild because our high school is only about 20 miles away from them but is in a different county so parents don’t have that option.
AcademicSavings634@reddit
My old high school was K-12. Initially it was just middle and high and they added the elementary school later on
OnceSeptembre@reddit
A rural school bus has to pick up all the children in the countryside.
Fun-Yellow-6576@reddit
My grandparent’s town of 400 people the K-8 kids were bussed to a town 8 miles away and high school kids were bussed to the high school in my grandparent’s town. All the rural kids were also bussed into town.
Some teachers taught all 4 years of English or a combination of US History/State History/World History. Usually 2 Math teachers as a huge difference in abilities.
farmerthrowaway1923@reddit
My ex’s graduating class was 19 kids total of that helps answer your question
Top-Web3806@reddit
My town was pretty large so we had our own but I had neighboring towns that doubled up so two towns went to the same high school, etc. I assume for those even smaller like you mentioned there would be multiple towns all going to the same high school.
Decent_Cow@reddit
In such cases, multiple towns will likely be combined into one school district.
Salty_Permit4437@reddit
We have regional high schools. But NJ also has a lot of school districts because friends and family need jobs!
turdferguson3891@reddit
Often kids are getting bused from some distance to a high school that serves a large area. Their elementary school will probably be morre local and very small. Or in some cases there is just one K-12 school and they don't seperate it.
Chronic_Iconic_Lady@reddit
I went to school in a very very small town. The whole town was about 400 people. The school from K-12 was also about 400 people. The school covered the town and all the remote areas, farmers, and other unincorporated areas. The school finally got enough money to add a fourth building when I started high school so we got the fancy new high school two blocks away from the regular school and the middle school got to stop sharing space with the elementary. This is not a huge flex though as the buildings each only had about 5-10 rooms in them and kindergarden was just a one room building.
We had enough students that each class got their own classroom but we didn't always have enough teachers. The most common classes covered by other teachers were things like sociology and health. And most years we didn't have any foreign language teachers at all. We didn't generally have specific separated out classes like physics and chemistry. It was just math, english, science, history, etc and we all took those classes with a few optional classes like home ec or whatever the body shop people were doing.
Perdendosi@reddit
It really depends.
I grew up in a town of 1400 people.
We had a combined school district with a town of about 600 people that was about 10 miles away. There were a few hundred people who lived in unincorporated rural areas nearby who rode the bus in. Some people were on the bus for an hour each way, until they turned 15(!) and could get a school permit to drive themselves to school.
There were 42 students in my graduating class. The high school was in my town; the middle school was in the smaller town. We had to take buses one way or another.
As communities continue to shrink in rural areas, the number of school districts just keeps shrinking. Nearby districts will consolidate when it just becomes too inefficient or unaffordable to operate independently. Students will ride the bus, sometimes for many, many miles.
In really isolated communities, there might be one small school. Teachers are just expected to teach multiple grades and/or multiple subjects. In those circumstances, it's unlikely that you'll get teachers who are qualified for all of their subjects. Sometimes the state will provide waivers.
Note that teacher qualification is not as stringent or as specialized as you might think. Teachers will get a "middle school and high school science" certification that allows them to teach every science class regardless of specialty, or a high school social studies certification that allows them to teach anything in the social studies curriculum (which might include history, civics, politics, sociology, psychology, etc.) It's not uncommon for, say, a math teacher to have endorsements in math and science, etc.
MIZ417@reddit
In the county where I live in rural Missouri there are at least 2 or 3 small high schools that regularly produce 15-30 graduates in each class. Other places may not have local schools like that so they would have to travel a half hour or longer to attend high school. No one is forced to study independently if that is what you are asking.
NCSU_252@reddit
I grew up in a rural area and the schools were for the whole county. There were two elementary schools, one middle school, and one high school. Same for the other small counties around us. Our biggest town was 3000 to 4000 people, and then there was one around 1000, and a few between 20-200. Around 100 people a year graduated from the high school.
There were separate teachers for every subject. One of our history teachers also did PE, but I think that was the only multiple subject teacher.
JimDemintRecession@reddit
My town of over 15k added towns of 3-5k each to the school district for high school and middle school years. They were within the 4km limit for busing to be legally required in New Jersey so they walked.
Generally speaking, every student has a separate unique schedule of classes every day from grade 6-12 (ages 11-18) so they're just like everyone else. Every teacher is qualified for a specific subject and only teaches that one. The students move rooms to other teachers throughout the day.
CoherentBusyDucks@reddit
I live in a town of 700 people. My high school was five towns put together.
My high school was about 650 people. In high school they combine people in different grades but I think just the same way they do everywhere else (like there might be some freshman in algebra and some sophomores in there)?
theegodmother1999@reddit
my best friend from college grew up in a town that was so teeny tiny (and on an island technically although the water surrounding it was rivers, not oceans) that she only graduated with 8 other people in her class (9 total). but according to her, most people from her area went to the county school which was off the island and much larger
Over_Knowledge_1114@reddit
My high school was 30 miles away, it was a consolidation of 10 towns. There were 60 people in my class.
pmonichols@reddit
We have regional school districts in MA mostly for tech/vocational high schools, and less so for regular high schools (Concord-Carlisle High School). Most K-12 schools are specific to a municipality/town/city.
gsxr@reddit
I live in the district you're talking about. We graduate roughly 120 kids per year. We also live near a school that has 62 kids, k-8th(my kid went their briefly).
The answer is travel. The district covers 450something square miles and 3 counties. Some teachers will teach multiple subjects. Class sizes are generally on the small side(good!).
The tiny school of 62, they combine grades. K-1 are a class, 2-3 class, 4-6th a class....Can't say this works well. Generally it's a shit show, and that's why my kids don't go there.
SaltandLillacs@reddit
My town had its own high school but the surrounding towns had a regional high school and middle school.
PowerfulFunny5@reddit
I know of one rural High school nearby that is just a 5-letter acronym of the (5) communities that are combined into that one school. Others are just named for the entire county.
SnooChipmunks2079@reddit
My hometown had 2200 people.
The high school drew from about 100 square miles (roughly 10x10) and had about 800 students.
I don't think they've grown too much since then.
They're ranked #90 in the state by US News and around #2500 nationwide with 30% AP participation rate and a 96% graduation rate.
Comfortable_Break387@reddit
I went to one of these for a little while. The town I lived in had 300 people. K-12 was all one school. We had about 100 kids total, and that was only the case because we pulled in kids from the nearby farms and occasionally someone from a bigger town about 20 miles away. I didn't graduate from there, but while I was there we were the biggest class by far at 14 kids. 3-4 kids a grade wasn't that uncommon.
I hear these days they've pooled together kids from 2 or 3 towns, so you go through elementary, middle, and high school in a different one of the towns.