The boomers didn't build the system, they inherited it from the greatest generation, didn't know its purpose, think they are geniuses and so began dismantling as soon as they took power.
Arguably, they didn't dismantle it.
Quite the reverse, in fact. They made it better. The system they inherited was inherently discriminatory; they fought like hell to change that so married women could go out to work, so age and race discrimination became illegal. It used to be routine for employment contracts to set out an age at which you had to retire - you'd never get away with that today.
Problem is, they didn't look at the (probably unintended) consequences of what they fought for. In fact, by the time the consequences became clear, they were the main beneficiaries.
A world in which married women can work without anyone thinking twice about it sooner or later becomes a world in which married women have to work because the extra money sloshing around drives house prices up.
A world without age discrimination is a world in which someone in their 60s might figure he doesn't want to retire. Meaning the 50-something person below him in the pecking order can't get a promotion - there's no job to promote him in to. Meaning the 40-something person below HIM can't get a promotion.
A world without any of these forms of discrimination is a world in which there's suddenly three times as many qualified applicants for any given job, meaning salaries stagnate.
But by the time any of that became a problem, they were the decision makers at the top who'd bought a house years ago. So it suited them pretty well.
My grandfather was born in 1928 and in his career became a software engineer. He used punchcards and mainframes and worked on computerizing railroad systems.
My grandmother was born in the 30s during the depression, and she worked as an accountant before she quit to be a full time stay at home mom. Doing all the math/calculations by hand or in her head.
The boomers didnt build the system, it was built by the silent generation or the greatest generation or whatever you wanna call em.
I think the leaded fuel caused a huge IQ disadvantage for Boomers and early gen ex.
I wouldn't say this is disparaging or gatekeeping.
But I will say we don't really have AI. Somebody just decided to start calling it that. It's a language model. Predictive text. It's neat for some things. But it's not artificial intelligence. I bet whoever just decided "let's start using the term even though it's not accurate" is very rich now.
we have software that can scan the internet and copy what it finds. and it's good at it. wow. let's see it do something intelligent. create something. offer something new. oh what's that, it can't? wow. again...
Born in 1980 So technically I’m Gen x but I wasn’t a Teenager in the 80s I was just a kid i wish i could’ve been a teenager in the 80s my older cousins i thought they was the coolest
I will continue to maintain that Gen Alpha did not end in 2024. Declaring hard cutoff at that point is completely arbitrary. Broad consensus on when the Millennials ended didn’t really emerge until around 2009 or later.
Viewed through the Strauss-Howe generational framework, a “turning” is defined by cultural milestones and shifting archetypes, not arbitrary dates. In this model generations span roughly 15 to 21 years and are shaped by the dominant social mood of the era.
Beyond the shared traumas of Covid and the disruptive rise of AI, it’s unclear what unique cultural markers will define Gen Alpha; let alone what major crisis or awakening will trigger the next Turning, Beta.
Also consider the concept of echo generations: a new generation typically begins when one parental cohort takes over the majority of total births. Gen Alpha consists primarily of the children of Millennials.
Around 2013, births shifted so that Millennials became the dominant parent generation; surpassing 75% of U.S. births that year and peaking near 88% in 2018. Even kids born in 2025 are still, for the most part, children of Millennials.
Gen Z does not look set to overtake Millennials as the primary parent cohort until the early 2030s. On top of that, roughly half of Gen Z are currently between 15 and 25 years old and are not having children in large numbers yet. This makes it even less clear exactly when they will begin producing the next echo cohort; Gen Beta.
I’m just gonna say it and don’t care if I get banned, every other generation is pretty neat. My goal in life is gaming with my homies at the senior center.
"Passions don't pay the bills" may have actually been spoken by my father and tbh, quotes like that are one of the reasons I joined rock bands and the visual arts program.
Is it wrong though? I've seen people follow their passions from high school and some are successful and made careers at it (tattoo artist, stand-up comic, stage actor) but a good majority of them have deferred to more normal day jobs to pay the bills. I worked retail for almost 20 years before becoming disabled.
Wouldn't say it's wrong, but as experience has shown, for every one that's able to make it and have a successful career with their passions, there's a hundred that can't. As a fellow ex-musician 30 years ago, I'm glad I had something to fall back on.
So true.
I still consider myself a musician. My disability is a genetic disease and a type of muscular dystrophy that doesn't present until later in life. I never knew I had it. It is a muscle wasting disease that can't be cured. It's progressive. So I still play several instruments which keep my muscles going and I record songs with friends. I still also consider myself an artist too. Drawing and Painting works on fine motor skills.
I ended up going to college two years out of HS when I discovered music had me living in a $300 a month apartment in a sketchy area working nights at a grocery store to pay the bills. Went to for Computer Systems Support. Got my certification, had about 10 interviews, found out nobody wanted to hire me, and I ended up working at Sears for nearly 15 years.
I tried that. I got the interesting part of a career, but the early retirement is and will stay a dream. At this point, I'll be happy if I can retire at some point, period.
And isn't the whole point of millennials that it goes to the millennium? I've never seen a list that didn't go to 2000, I thought it was officially 1980-2000 (Xennial discussion aside)
I’ve seen 1980 included and excluded from various generation lists. I honestly don’t know how official any of these numbers are or who is even in charge of setting them. Like maybe some dude on Wikipedia set these ranges
It feels like that to me too! I always thought it was the most natural beginning to the millennial era, particularly because of how distant Gen X feels to me, personally, but most lists don’t agree
I think generations tend to be defined by the events going on in the world during your most impressionable years. So in that context, millenials are the folks that were in the 10-20 year old age range on the year 2000.
It's hard for the millennium to be a defining event in your life if it happened when you were an infant or a toddler.
I'd argue the gen alpha & gen beta divisions are essentially meaningless right now.
Generations only make sense in retrospect. We don't know what the defining moments and issues are going to be for the kids that are still in grade school right now.
Also, some boomers are in denial the system ever changed and don't understand why everyone is having such a hard time when they also "struggled" and made it.. like my asshole parents i don't talk to anymore.. dad's family emigrated in the 60's so they think they know something about modern immigration and hate "illegals" fuck those people (my parents, not immigrants.)
They called us 1981s Gen X for over 35 years, so that's what I go by. If they want to change it, then they need to find Doc's DeLorean, go back in time, and change the past. And isn't it odd that the word "Millennial" wasn't prevalent until us 1981s were in our mid-30s and "Millennial" was used to describe people barely out of high school. Yeah, ok. In the words of my generation, <insert eye-roll> "Whatever."
No insulting other generations, gatekeeping, disparaging current slang and pop culture, generational superiority or making unnecessary complaints/rants.
I'm a solid GenX-er. My grandparents built the system their parents started. My boomer parents prospered from a system they didn't build or truly understand, and as a generation, don't care enough to discuss the problems they've created. I suspect most people who were at least teenagers for Y2K could find room with us in our attitudes.
I'm an older Xennial (born 1978) and feel like my boomer parents brainwashed me into thinking that if I worked hard and did well in school the system would reward me. It wasn't until I had been in the workforce for a decade or so that I realized what nonsense that was and that the "system" is wildly rigged to favor the rich/well-connected/nepo babies, etc. Ever since I've firmly been in the jaded Gen X mindset for better or for worse.
Idk if that fits us. I think it’s more like “Get told you’re spoiled little shits by the generations before you, then watch them set the fucking world on fire before handing it to you.”
The only thing I would change about this is the commentary is the life motto of Boomers. They didn't build that system, it was their parents (Greatest/Silent) who built it for them. Just take infrastructure, for example. Most of the earlier paved road grid, U.S./Canadian trunk routes, bridges, and urban arterials were established by the Silent generation. The Boomers were the first generation to grow up surrounded by that infrastructure.
With time, it all needed maintenance, which it never got. Where I live, it's only when the Boomers started massively taking their retirements and the network started crumbling to a dangerous degree that all of a sudden investment into infrastructure became crucial. Who's going to pay for all of that? Not them. The same can be said for many other aspects of our daily lives.
Bruce Gibney's book "A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America" explains it all in wonderful and horrific detail.
It's not for nothing that the Boomers are the generation infinitely richer than their parents \*\*\*AND\*\*\* their children (and children's children).
Aww, poor Gen Alpha kids, they don’t get a credo, just a rather reductive description of how they’re being raised. But yeah, I definitely absorbed the Gen X mindset far more than the Millennial one.
The German GenX motto is: "Nur die Harten kommen in den Garten!" (Only the tough ones get into the garden) - inherently darwinistic, socially and otherwise. Particularly older German GenXers are the kind of people that, for example, regard bullying as a necessary function of social life, a-okay and always deserved.
But then again, many of them grew up with WW2 veterans or people who lived through the subsequent hunger years with bodies lining the streets as fathers. That may explain some things.
Gen X - "Trust no one"
but they....
Immediately fall for every scam and political grift they see on facebook. Drive around with certain flags on their truck and outside their house.
This should be "The most easy generation to brainwash"
Man - I used to listen to Rogan pre-covid too. It was quite entertaining when he had all the Astro physicists and pre-history people on. Loved them talking about multiverses, how aliens and civilizations would and do evolve. Possibility of ancient advanced civilizations. Talking about earth cataclysmic events and extinctions.
Then covid hit --- and the Kool-Aid started getting chugged. And he was never the same. All guests were political or holistic medicine or about vitamins and vaccines. And completely lost interest in his show.
I'm ashamed of THOSE Gen X. They drank the Kool Aid. They were the bullies the rest of us X's despised.
They are actually boomers in mentality. Shame on them.
I saw the writing on the wall at 17. Shit wasn't getting better, ever. And it wasn't because of minorities like the Boomers claimed.
You have no idea how ashamed I am to share air with THOSE people.
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