Dell to group chat: New model names, who dis?
Posted by ADynes@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 34 comments
Just talked to my saleperson after finding out they don't have any Ultra 5 238v's in stock and don't know if they are ever getting anymore. Suggested going down to 236/16Gb (yeah...no) or up to Ultra 7's (also no). Said the new models are coming out. I said "Oh so a new Dell Pro 16 Plus? Current is PB16250 so that would be a PB16260?". She said "No they change it again so the new replacement will be a Dell Pro 7 Series 14 with a model number of P714260."
So for everyone playing at home here are some examples if you are confused:
- 15.6" Latitude 5000 (5550) -> Dell Pro 16 Plus (PB16250) -> Dell Pro 5 Series 16 (P516260)
- 14" Latitude 7000 (7450) -> Dell Pro 14 Premium (PA14250) -> Dell Pro 7 Series 14 (P714260)
and my favorite
- 16" Precision 7000 (7690) -> Dell Pro Max 16 Plus (MB16250) -> Dell Pro Precision 7 Series 16 (PW716260)
And I complain about my marketing people......
LaDev@reddit
Was in a meeting with our Dell rep and in the slide deck they have an extensive decoder chart to understanding the new naming scheme... what a joke.
Secret_Account07@reddit
It’s so fucking confusing. Dell had a good naming scheme. It made sense. There was a way to address the issue of >10 in models. But they picked the dumbest thing possible.
We work in IT so we know this. Naming schemes are important. It’s how we communicate info. If you redesign it there better be a god damn good reason as you’re just going to confuse all your customers.
tacos_y_burritos@reddit
Their naming convention wasn't good. Model numbers were repeating. A latitude 7450 could have been a 2015 or 2024 model. Google search results was a joke for troubleshooting.
ADynes@reddit (OP)
Thats not true, they prefix them. They had a E series and before that a D series and before that a C series.
So when the first 7x00 came out it was a E7x00 and that continued until E7x70. When the 7x80 was released they dropped the E-Series prefix. They should have just started over with F7x00.
draggar@reddit
Vendors love to shake up their model names / lines so consumers keep thinking it's something completely new.
HP kinda just did the same thing. Probook 450/460 to Probook G1i etc.
itskdog@reddit
HP's new naming at least makes sense and isn't too different to the old one, and now the generation matches the CPU generation as they reset the numbering along with Intel and AMD.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
They don't, at least on Intel. We got some 460 G12/4 G1i with u5 225U.
itskdog@reddit
Of course they did that. 🤦
I honestly thought they'd move to G2 with Series 2.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
You would think so but no. G11 were Intel 1st gen reboot, ie u7 165h in a 660 G11
itskdog@reddit
And yet we got a Series 1 with our ProBook 4 G1iR laptops. 🤷
dustojnikhummer@reddit
g1iR? R as in refresh?
I mean this isn't the first time OEMs have done this. First that comes to my head is Thinkpad T480, whose base model shipped with an i5 7200U instead of i5 8250U
itskdog@reddit
No idea, there's ended up an R on the end of the model we got.
gamebrigada@reddit
To be fair, I really like the new HP naming conventions. i for Intel, i for AMD, q for Qualcomm. No bullshit weird numbers.
dustojnikhummer@reddit
I get that but why couldn't they keep them 460 G12i? or 460 G12a?
No, instead we got 4 G1i AI
dustojnikhummer@reddit
I still call them 460 G12
mods_are_lame1@reddit
Dell had the same naming convention for nearly 2 decades. A lot of us ordered from them because it was easy to understand what you were getting.
Now, none of their shit makes any sense. They need to fire their CMO and anyone else who greenlit this shitshow.
SimplifyAndAddCoffee@reddit
The canary in the coal mine was them changing the asset tag format to read from right to left. It's all been downhill since then.
Arudinne@reddit
Wait.. when did that happen?
SimplifyAndAddCoffee@reddit
I want to say we saw it starting with the optiplex AIO line about 2 years back now, and every new model we've brought in since then has an asset tag where sequential machines off the line increment the first digits of the AT while all sharing the last digits... which of course threw a fat wrench in our imaging process which had used the last digits of the AT to generate a unique hostname.
DDOSBreakfast@reddit
Lenovo's naming has been fairly consistent and makes sense.
pdp10@reddit
Viz. Ford Mustang Mach-E. Wait....
wrosecrans@reddit
I have learned Klingon, and assembly language for obsolete architectures, and I'm not nearly enough of a dork to keep track of learning Dell's model number nonsense.
Mister_Brevity@reddit
Introducing the Dell pro super turbo type r hd remix. 2.
jlaw7905@reddit
I'm excited for the Dell Pro 7. Hopefully it's comparable to the Latitude 7450. The Dell Pro Plus 14 was heavy, felt like a downgrade in comparison, and I'm glad it flopped.
ADynes@reddit (OP)
The Dell Pro 14 Plus was the next version of the Latitude 5000 series so that makes sense they were thicker/heavier then a 7450.
Except for the Precision....for some reason they swapped the 5 and 7
Jaack18@reddit
Thanks for this. Might explain why our lead time is getting close to 3 months on the pro max. Taking a look at the new models now.
jlaw7905@reddit
My pro max orders got cancelled because they're out of QHD+ displays.
MFAKilledTheRadioStr@reddit
At least it's an improvement to the previous (no more Dell Pro Max Premium nonsense). I like the new naming convention because the model number has the release year.
ADynes@reddit (OP)
They have released more then one model in a single year so I don't think thats going to hold up.
TheCudder@reddit
There has to be more to it, right? The new name has to have another identifier (or a varying one). Looking on the website, the Dell Pro Precision Series 7 devices are new versions of the Dell Pro Max Premium models (no NumPad, extra large trackpad, higher res. 16:10 display). Previously these models were Precision 5550's or something like that.
The "Dell Pro Max" & "Dell Pro Max Plus" devices are "Precision" tier devices as well, but they have a numpad, a smaller trackpad, and a traditional 16:9 display.
Does "Dell Pro Max" & "Dell Pro Max Plus" even need to be two different models? Either way, they need two differentiate from Premium/5500 tier somehow.
WiskeyUniformTango@reddit
I remember the good old days at dell with 3 character models. Ie Dell Optiplex GX1.
It wasn't long before they started messing thst up as the GX2 came out and it then became GX260, GX270, GX280 and more complex from there.
_l33ter_@reddit
Basically 14" Latitude 7000 (7450) --> Dell Pro 7 Series 14 (P714260) are the same
Both has the number 14 (for zoll) | and both has the number 7(000) in it --> so it's not that much reknowing :)
anyway: I understand you, that this is annoying!
ADynes@reddit (OP)
Yeah but those model numbers. P516260...ok Pro 5 series (old 5000), 16 inch, 260 I'm guessing is revision? 265 appears to be AMD. Kinda makes sense.
But the Precision: PW716260. Is the p for Precision or Pro? Is w for Workstation since they call them Precision Workstations? Assuming 260 is again revision/generation.
I agree the middle ones are awful but they should have just gone back to Latitude 54260 or something and been done with it.
SpotlessCheetah@reddit
Yea I told my reps last year. Well they didn't like it either. Old BMWish names are back in the mi.