Are school allowed using parent info to invite for product presentation?

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

There’s a guy I work with you might get on with. Do you have face tattoos and a proudly displayed England flag on your car too?

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

Sounds like you’re not a fan of people not speaking English as a first language.

[-]

ConsiderMyTimbers@reddit

Might sound like that, but you're wrong.

Don't be a bellend.

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

I think you should be careful about taking the piss out of people’s English skills. For various reasons.

[-]

ConsiderMyTimbers@reddit

I don't think I should.

I think you should get off your keyboard and go to sleep for the day mate

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

Fair enough. If you think it’s ok to make jokes about people’s academic abilities or nationality then that is your own choice.

This is currently an issue which looms large in my life and I’m just becoming despondent about how acceptable it’s becoming to punch down at immigrants.

I’m not looking to argue, just trying to explain where I am coming from. Whether you are xenophobic or not is not really my business and I probably shouldn’t comment when I see these sorts of comments.

Have a good day.

[-]

ConsiderMyTimbers@reddit

I think it's fine to suggest that someone who struggles with English probably isn't the best person to help with an English project. The same as I wouldn't ask my father in law to help my daughter with a cooking project.

You're being a sensitive little goose. Chill the fuck out and get off your white horse.

You are looking to argue, otherwise you wouldn't have started the conversation with me.

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

Yeah, that’s definitely where you were coming from. Good work.

[-]

ConsiderMyTimbers@reddit

It was. But you're just going to assume I'm xenophobic because what, you love to hate people?

Bigot.

[-]

HideousTits@reddit

Ha!

[-]

NoSuggestion2681@reddit

Zzzzzz

[-]

Fly_Boy_Blue@reddit

I think u/ConsiderMyTimbers is referring to the standard of OPs writing, and not an In-ger-land thing.

[-]

ConsiderMyTimbers@reddit

Absolutely

[-]

LemonQuirky865@reddit

Is it Thermomix?

[-]

m1nkeh@reddit

No, that is a breach of GDPR. They are reusing a piece of personal information that has been collected for a specific purpose for another purpose.

Normally this would need your express specific consent.

[-]

m1nkeh@reddit

Genuinely confused on the downvotes???

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

Thank you for helpful comments. It looks like school is skirting the law under pretext of healthy nutrition.

I won't be going to the meeting as I don't believe sales rep is qualified to to provide information about healthy food.

[-]

redunculuspanda@reddit

No it doesn’t. You misrepresent the facts and got an answer to a different question.

Please don’t go off and be weird at the school or the teachers.

[-]

michalakos@reddit

They are not skirting any laws. They invited you to an event that they are organising.

The nature of the event is stupid but the school did not do anything wrong by inviting you.

[-]

Spicymargx@reddit

I strongly suspect it’s a breach of GDPR - what kind of product is it?

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

Kitchen appliance

[-]

AbjectGovernment1247@reddit

The kitchen appliance company has zero reason to have your details.

Assuming the school did not ask for your consent to pass your information on, then they have broken GDPR rules and should be reported.

https://www.gov.uk/data-protection

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

Company didn't use my details. School sent out message using school app (which has my details )to invite parents to presentation

[-]

Swimming_Gas7611@reddit

So school sent out and internal invite to an event hosted at the school? Nothing wrong with that, intact I think it's less emoral than posting it on Reddit in a certain light to make it seem like the school sold your data to a third party.

[-]

pervertsage@reddit

Do you think it would be different if the teacher sending the invite out had a financial interest in the company or event?

Just wondering where the line in with this kind of communication.

[-]

Swimming_Gas7611@reddit

Maybe, but at the same time I'd just ignore it like alot of the spam you get in these school apps.

[-]

WeeklyPermission239@reddit

Yes, but aren't we kind of getting into hypotheticals now?

I would also think it to be different if the teacher told the kids that anyone who didn't buy the appliance would turn into a frog, but as far as we know that didn't happen either

[-]

Spicymargx@reddit

They’ve used contact information, which is personal data, without a lawful basis. A poster for an event like this would still be a bizarre use of school resources but not unlawful. Direct invitations using your personal data is bizarre AND unlawful.

[-]

Swimming_Gas7611@reddit

It's using the internal school messaging app. So basically a digital poster.

[-]

Spicymargx@reddit

It’s a bizarre use of their time and energy then, but it doesn’t seem like a GDPR breach to me because you gave consent for your details to be processed so you can access the app, and they haven’t had to access them again to send you this information.

[-]

Spicymargx@reddit

This is a bit different to using your info to invite you. You already gave the info, which is only accessed when setting you up. You agreed terms and conditions, which is essentially a consent waiver that you can be contacted using the app. The actual content you agree to receive through the app is very unlikely to be have been specified within the terms and conditions themselves. They’ll be more along the lines of “you consent to being contacted by school staff using this app” than “you consent to being contacted about educational matters only using this app”.

[-]

Spicymargx@reddit

Highly inappropriate.

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

More info - school messaged using the school app inviting parents to kitchen appliance presentation using supporting healthy eating habits as excuse to peddle very expensive product.

[-]

Apprehensive-Cat-500@reddit

The company is either doing the rounds at schools - or we are at the same school!

We had an invite on the parenting app for a presentation at the school. If a certain number of parents attended, the school got the product free for cooking lessons.

With budgets so poor, I can kind of see why they were encouraging attendance!

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

Looks like they doing rounds of schools but given the price i don't think too many parents will come and be interested in it.

[-]

Lollypop1305@reddit

I mean if the school messaged via the app then no. They haven’t broken any rules. As annoying as it may be

[-]

ThatRecruitmentGuy@reddit

The school are the ultimate data holders, so yes, it is their responsibility to ensure it is used for the purposes the parents signed up to

[-]

LoveBeBrave@reddit

This is one of those purposes - inviting parents to attend a class related to their children on school property.

[-]

Lollypop1305@reddit

The way they have framed it as “healthy eating” covers their arses on this. It’s super irritating but they haven’t released the data to anyone. I would still moan about it though!

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

It is.

[-]

Lollypop1305@reddit

Then no they haven’t done anything wrong. It’s a school event albeit an obnoxious one. You genuinely don’t have a leg to stand on with this. Just don’t attend.

[-]

First-Lengthiness-16@reddit

But they are unlikely to have shared any data at all.

The advert isn’t personalised.

[-]

rr755507@reddit

Is it a MLM company?

[-]

Competitive_Test6697@reddit

So the school didn't give out details but used the app you've signed up for?

[-]

worldworn@reddit

You got an app notification. It sounds like they didn't use your personal details.

It would have been sent to a list of usernames.

[-]

markvauxhall@reddit

The company wouldn't have even been given usernames, I suspect the school just agreed to send a message to all parents advertising the company's presentation

[-]

detectivebabylegz@reddit

Sounds like someone in the school is a part of a pyramid scheme.

[-]

QueefInMyKisser@reddit

Just demand that they delete your details and not send you any more of this crap going forward.

[-]

remmy84@reddit

No. Massive breach of GDPR. Report them

[-]

Rextherabbit@reddit

If they have given the data to the company then sounds like a definate breech of rules.

if the company has sent the school the data and the school have emailed it out then its going to be subject to what the schools policy states.

furthermore, if the school have just sent it to every one and not BCC'd there could be consequences for sharing your email address(es) with other parents.

[-]

SquareBondageDuck@reddit

The company would be deemed the sender under PECR even if the school was sending the comms. So your next question is either did I consent to said marketing OR am I being contacted about “similar products and services” to those products and services I’ve engaged with via the school. Well, the answer to that is very likely to be no, it would be a huge stretch.

[-]

Hour-Estate-2962@reddit

I'm not sure I agree, it sounds like the school have invited him to a presentation about healthy eating which is being sponsored or delivered by the makers of this kitchen item. Whether it's morally right for this to happen or not (I'd probably say not but hard to know without more detail) I'm not sure this is any different to being invited to any presentation at the school which has a company involved.

[-]

SquareBondageDuck@reddit

Depends on the content of the message they’ve received. Hard to tell from OP

[-]

Hour-Estate-2962@reddit

Yes it's lacking in information. Obviously if they just sent him an advert then that's not ok but having worked in schools that sounds highly unlikely and OP has clarified that it was a presentation under the guise of healthy eating.

Schools aren't typically in the business of supporting random businesses so I expect there's more to this which would make it either clearly fine or clearly not fine.

[-]

ThatRecruitmentGuy@reddit

I'll guess this is an MLM product and someone on the inside has allowed for it to be sent to the parents?

If so, It's bang out of order and very likely a breach of GDPR. Complain immediately to the Head Teacher on email, CCing the Chair of Governors.

It's not necessarily 'heads will roll' level of bad, but someone needs a solid slap on the wrists, re-education on GDPR and a stern talking to about what is and isn't appropriate. If you want to go nuclear, complain to the ICO.

I would go mad if this was from my school.

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

The product cost almost £2k and i don't think it's necessary for supporting healthy eating habits.

[-]

Electronic-Fennel828@reddit

Not without your consent to use your information for that specific purpose, no.

Not all things schools use your details for require consent to be clear. Most processing of yours or your child’s details that a school does falls under performance of a necessary task in the public interest. Meaning kids need to get an education, that’s what schools do, it’s in the public interest to use this data for that purpose.

Some schools may also rely on legitimate interest for something bits, but that would be more for something like using photos to promote the school. As in, it has to be a legitimate function for the school, and you should have the ability to opt out of any data being used under legitimate interest.

[-]

First-Lengthiness-16@reddit

The answer you have selected is wrong, based on the information you gave after the OP.

If it is just in app advertising, none of your data has been provided to anyone.

[-]

OkContribution6454@reddit

No they are not. The information you provided the school was for a certain purpose, unless you specified that it could also be used for promotional or marketing etc via an opt in, then they've breached GDPR.

[-]

_likes_to_read_@reddit (OP)

!answer

Thank you that's what i thought as I'm careful which permission I give to school or aby other company where my child is involved

[-]

Bla0705@reddit

This isn’t the answer. It’s the answer you wanted to hear. The school haven’t given your details to anyone so it isn’t a breach of GDPR. They’ve invited you to a school event via a school communication system that you signed up for. Is it annoying to be getting messages that you’re not interested in? Yes. Have they done anything wrong? Absolutely not.

[-]

Hour-Estate-2962@reddit

It sounds like the school have used your details to contact you about an event they are holding which would presumably fall within the allowed purposes for storing and using your data.

I think the fact that you don't want to attend the event or don't approve of what the event is isn't relevant. To me it doesn't seem any different to inviting you to an event about the importance of music in childhood sponsored/delivered by a music tuition company.

[-]

ukbot-nicolabot@reddit

OP marked this as the best answer, given by /u/OkContribution6454.

No they are not. The information you provided the school was for a certain purpose, unless you specified that it could also be used for promotional or marketing etc via an opt in, then they've breached GDPR.

^(What is this?)

[-]

When replying to submission/post please make genuine efforts to answer the question given. Please no jokes, judgements, etc. If a post is marked 'Serious Answers Only' you may receive a ban for violating this rule.
Don't be a dick to each other. If getting heated, just block and move on.
This is a strictly no-politics subreddit!

Please help us by reporting comments that break these rules.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.