Nah, i do audio books in work aswell. Like others have said, just don't come across as some pretentious twat because of it. Whenever I say I've "read" the book I always make the distinction of saying on audible becuase, one I'm kinda lazy and two audible and podcasts are pretty much the only way I can get through work.
How do you deal with not catching everything? Because I can't believe that you can fully comprehend everything when you do something completely different.
I mean I'm the type that goes back an entire page if I happen to zone out and miss a point or a sentence. I couldn't bear missing multiple things just because I was doing something else.
IMO dense books shouldnt be mainly consumed via audio, but more sloppy ones like fantasy are great. If you're reading popular fantasy books like Mistborn you can find summary of each chapters. Whenever i finish a chapter via audibook i like to read the summaries to check if i missed something. I usually don't, after some time you get used to it
There is a button that takes it back 30 seconds. I just tap the button until I’m back in familiar territory then continue where I was before I started thinking about work or my cats or my indoor yuzu tree… Why do you drop your leaves Yuzu? I give you everything you need. Do you hate me, Yuzu? Everything I do is for you…
I like that you make the distinction, I do as well.
Maybe I'm just pedantic but it always rubs me the wrong way when someone says "oh yeah I read that book!" when they listened to it. It's like, no, you didn't read it, you listened to it.
Now, does it matter which one you prefer? Absolutely not, you're experiencing the story either way. But there is a difference between reading and listening.
I feel like it’s kind of pedantic to make the distinction. I read some books and listen to others, and honestly couldn’t tell you which are which once enough time has passed. I also will switch between audio and reading for the same book. Would the average person consider me a liar for saying I read one of the books I listened to? Idk I could be wrong but it just feels like a weird superiority thing if someone cares about that
I feel like it’s kind of pedantic to make the distinction.
Depends. If your level of concentration is the same, then it makes fuck all difference, but books don't lend themselves to multitasking the way audiobooks do.
When reading, I might zone out for a paragraph or two, but I can miss entire chapters of an audiobook when distracted. I find I generally have to listen to a book two or three times before I know it as well as if I'd sat and read it.
In that case I would arguably be the opposite. I mainly do audiobooks when there are limited distractions, walking, driving, dishes. I mainly read in bed so my retention isn't as good and I read at about 6x the speed of a narrator anyway.
If you consider people flying to countries to be liars because they just sat in the plane while someone else flew them there, then thats a fair opinion.
I just hate when people aren't consistent in their pedantic logic.
I listen to audiobooks on commute and sometimes at night shift. Do what you like, consume the media however you want. Cheating what? You don't gain or lose anything, its just another form of media consumption.
Its cheating if you have a smug sense of superiority for “reading” x amount of books in a month even if really you just half listened to a book being read to you while doing something else.
That superiority makes 0 sense. Slow the fuck down, take the time to enjoy what you're reading, and maybe learn something from it. Often you can get the most from a book when you're not actively reading about it but taking time to think about what you read
are you actually retaining the information in a serious way that you would if you read it? if someone asked you for details on what you listened to, would you remember that or would you remember doing work?
audiobooks are great sometimes but you have to audit yourself to make sure you're actually processing and retaining the information. same thing for speed reading, if you're just flying through the books without letting the information breathe and taking a second to think about it, then you're missing the point entirely. doing things to save time and be efficient defeats the point, it's supposed to be about slowing down, processing the information, and letting it simmer
First of all, I'm reading/listening to fiction. Not some heady philosophy or self help book or something. Easier to parse.
Second, once I learn character names and form a concept for them, then it's easy to pickup the rest. I will occasionally pause and go back if I missed something, or need to use more mentaly focus at work.
Plus, I read so fast audio books are actually slower. Combined with ADD, lets just say I've doubled up before.
For sure I mainly read nonfiction so retaining the information is the entire point of it (mainly history, stuff about the industry I work in, or things pertaining to music or sports, both consuming and playing), but fair enough
I don't read it too much, but I do like listening to journals, letters and logs from the Civil War. But I've done that so much I can generally place things easily. Plus, it's more about getting a sense of the change rather than specifics.
It's not the us civil war but check out Leaves From a Russian Diary, it's during the Russian Revolution. I simply could not put the thing down (well except for the part written in 1950, which was just academic reflections)
Audio books generally aren't counted as cheating if you treat the process of listening to an audio book the same as the process of reading a book.
If you're going out and driving while listening to an audiobook, or you're doing some work while listening to one, or really any kind of multi-tasking, it's "cheating" in a competition sense since you likely aren't also using your imagination while listening to the book (unless you want to crash)
It's only cheating if you make it a competition. I read at home and listen to the audiobook at work because if I didn't it would take me a few months to get through a single one and ai would've forgotten half of it by the end.
It’s not cheating, but those dudes refer to it as “reading” and will downvote you to the core of the earth if you suggest that it’s anything otherwise.
im with you, as long as they actually pay attention that counts 100% as having “read” the book. the problem arises when people have them playing at 300% playback speed in the background just to say theyve read a lot. I used to love reading as a kid, but with life and work i dont have as much time so i do audible when im working or driving, but i never listen to anything other than on original speed, i prefer to actually enjoy the story, especially for booktrack versions that have background noises/music, the witcher book track versions are absolute masterpieces
Very similar boat here, it’s not technically “reading” but if someone said they read a series via audiobook I wouldn’t feel they said an incorrect statement, so long as they paid full attention.
A good narrator can make a series a lot better. I read the entire Red Rising series via audiobook recently, I’m 100% certain that I would not have finished the first book, let alone the series, if the narrator they used for every audiobook wasn’t fantastic at his job, and so clearly having a ton of fun.
I thought "chapter book" meant it's released chapter by chapter and the author is baiting you to pay more and more. I guess i'm not online chronically enough.
Haha, no. But you described a real business model. Webnovels are usually monetized by a "pay me to read X number of chapters ahead of the public release". At least in the west.
You either don't read web novels or you aren't finding them in the right place. Join an indie publisher like Quibble or something and join their community
it’s a lot more fun having to take more time to read through chapter by chapter and engage with a community. I’ve found a few authors who post chapters long enough for my lunch break.
You will mostly find the novels that have released an official ebook, which is not all the books out there. People who pirate novels copy the text files of the official ebooks, while people who pirate mangas scan the pages and translate/edit it themselves
Also, if I'm looking for a foreign manga/webtoon/comics that hasn't been officially translated in my language yet, I can still find a fanmade translation pretty easily. If I'm looking for a foreign novel that hasn't been officially translated in my language yet, it's gonna be way harder to find it and there's a higher chance for it to be an AI translation
You can also say prose text. You can have a graphic novel adaptation, and neither are any less a novel as its the same story, but the distinction is its medium.
lol not every “chapter book” is a novel. And that term is used by like kids who were recently toddlers and it’s been a thing for 20 years bc I did it when I was in like 1st grade
I also wanted to make another reply to say that a novel is, by definition, a work of narrative fiction. Not all large books with chapters are narrative fiction. That’s why I’m saying not all “chapter books” are novels. You can have a history book, a technical book, a textbook, etc
A lot of things depending on the book. Many early authors now considered novelists referred to their books as romances. Modernist authors generally disliked the novel form and tried to move past it categorizing their books as myth, elegy, playpoem, etc. A novel is just one type of many within fiction but you seem very smug about not knowing what you’re talking about
Chapter Book is the term for early-reader level novels. It's to distinguish from Picture Books, where the target age is the same, but 1/2 to 3/4 of the page may be illustrations.
For small kids, they can struggle to remember words like Novel, novella, or just short fiction. They aren't likely to use the word "graphic" to describe comics or books with pictures. To them, they are just using what they see as distinguishing features instead. Once they grow up a little, they start to get the terms down pat. I was using the word "Novel" as early as late elementary school.
"chapter book" is a term/class used for young children learning to read to differentiate between picture books/short stories and chapterized stories. Typically the first step in non-illustrated reading.
Think; Magic treehouse, pippi longstockings, the wayside school, the little prince, etc.
Later they move to short novels like hardy boys or nancy drew.
The class of books and term have been around longer than you have been alive.
no because novels are necessarily fictional but 'chapter book' is a term children use to refer to books which are entirely text split into chapters as opposed to books with pictures
No it isn’t. “Chapter books” is a phrase only used by small children learning to read real books for the first time. I also called them “chapter books” when I was in like first grade, but I haven’t used the phrase since then. Hence Anon being clocked as a small child
We are talking about preschoolers and kindergarteners here. You should feel no need to feel intellectually superior to 4-year-olds regardless of where they originate.
It’s used as a transitional term for kids in very early elementary school, like 6-7 year old kids, to describe novels that are intended to transition them from reading picture books to actual novels. A lot of early children’s literature like Treasure Island or Peter Pan would be described as chapter books.
It's a byproduct of the summer reading programs that are offered at libraries throughout the country. Basically within almost all of those programs there are tiers of books that earn more or less rewards depending on how complex they are. So a 20 page picture book isn't worth as much as a 100 page chapter book which isn't worth as much as a full length novel.
When I was in high school I volunteered at a library for that program and I remember if a kid only read picture books they could earn a coupon for a free small ice cream, a kid who only read chapter book could get a T-shirt and an ice cream, and if a kid read chapter books they got the lower prizes and discounted admission for some of the museums in the city. The idea being that by capping how much each tier could earn it would push kids towards reading the higher tiers.
A chapter book is a beginner level book intended for children from late preschool to second grade. And no, this is a widely known term. 4chan did not create the term.
I went to primary school in the states. "Chapter books" was what we called those scary looking thick books with little to no pictures, until I reached 3rd grade and started realizing they were just regular books.
Around 4th grade kids at my school just called them regular books, and switched to using "picture books" for the books we thought were normal when we were younger.
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Actual books have and will always have 100x the level of depth that any comic book could. One piece is my favorite series of all time but in terms of the dozens of actual novels I’ve read, the depth and detail just doesn’t come close.
As a disgusting manhwa reader I have to give anon this: it's pretty common for banger manhwas to have either an awfully translated novel, or have the novel be poorly written and propped up in manhwa form by strong art. As I'm not reading them in their native language I can't discern which is which.
OcelotSlight7892@reddit
Just do audiobooks like the cheaters at r slash books
undreamedgore@reddit
I do audio books at work. Is that cheating?
tayto175@reddit
Nah, i do audio books in work aswell. Like others have said, just don't come across as some pretentious twat because of it. Whenever I say I've "read" the book I always make the distinction of saying on audible becuase, one I'm kinda lazy and two audible and podcasts are pretty much the only way I can get through work.
nyaasgem@reddit
How do you deal with not catching everything? Because I can't believe that you can fully comprehend everything when you do something completely different.
I mean I'm the type that goes back an entire page if I happen to zone out and miss a point or a sentence. I couldn't bear missing multiple things just because I was doing something else.
dino_eater@reddit
IMO dense books shouldnt be mainly consumed via audio, but more sloppy ones like fantasy are great. If you're reading popular fantasy books like Mistborn you can find summary of each chapters. Whenever i finish a chapter via audibook i like to read the summaries to check if i missed something. I usually don't, after some time you get used to it
-Farmersdaughter-@reddit
There is a button that takes it back 30 seconds. I just tap the button until I’m back in familiar territory then continue where I was before I started thinking about work or my cats or my indoor yuzu tree… Why do you drop your leaves Yuzu? I give you everything you need. Do you hate me, Yuzu? Everything I do is for you…
undreamedgore@reddit
I know I get around this by having ADD.
tayto175@reddit
Me job is fairly repetitive and monotonous at times so its easier for me to focus on what's in my ear and let my body go on autopilot in work.
asingleshot7@reddit
I don't pick the densest books for work/driving but I'm also listening at 25% the speed I read at so I don't often feel like I'm missing much.
TheJollyJagamo@reddit
I like that you make the distinction, I do as well.
Maybe I'm just pedantic but it always rubs me the wrong way when someone says "oh yeah I read that book!" when they listened to it. It's like, no, you didn't read it, you listened to it.
Now, does it matter which one you prefer? Absolutely not, you're experiencing the story either way. But there is a difference between reading and listening.
Articunozard@reddit
I feel like it’s kind of pedantic to make the distinction. I read some books and listen to others, and honestly couldn’t tell you which are which once enough time has passed. I also will switch between audio and reading for the same book. Would the average person consider me a liar for saying I read one of the books I listened to? Idk I could be wrong but it just feels like a weird superiority thing if someone cares about that
bremsspuren@reddit
Depends. If your level of concentration is the same, then it makes fuck all difference, but books don't lend themselves to multitasking the way audiobooks do.
When reading, I might zone out for a paragraph or two, but I can miss entire chapters of an audiobook when distracted. I find I generally have to listen to a book two or three times before I know it as well as if I'd sat and read it.
asingleshot7@reddit
In that case I would arguably be the opposite. I mainly do audiobooks when there are limited distractions, walking, driving, dishes. I mainly read in bed so my retention isn't as good and I read at about 6x the speed of a narrator anyway.
Previous_Air_9030@reddit
I'd argue that being unable to sleep while you drive makes it more likely you have more distractions there than in bed.
joevarny@reddit
If you consider people flying to countries to be liars because they just sat in the plane while someone else flew them there, then thats a fair opinion.
I just hate when people aren't consistent in their pedantic logic.
ByteWhisperer@reddit
I do audiobooks during my commute nowadays. Much better than listening to someone with an opinion on a podcast.
dino_eater@reddit
I listen to audiobooks on commute and sometimes at night shift. Do what you like, consume the media however you want. Cheating what? You don't gain or lose anything, its just another form of media consumption.
Ratattack1204@reddit
Its cheating if you have a smug sense of superiority for “reading” x amount of books in a month even if really you just half listened to a book being read to you while doing something else.
perfectVoidler@reddit
if have to problem that I cannot really answer the question "have you read it?" because "I have listened it" sound stupid.
magicMerlinV@reddit
That superiority makes 0 sense. Slow the fuck down, take the time to enjoy what you're reading, and maybe learn something from it. Often you can get the most from a book when you're not actively reading about it but taking time to think about what you read
kikikza@reddit
are you actually retaining the information in a serious way that you would if you read it? if someone asked you for details on what you listened to, would you remember that or would you remember doing work?
audiobooks are great sometimes but you have to audit yourself to make sure you're actually processing and retaining the information. same thing for speed reading, if you're just flying through the books without letting the information breathe and taking a second to think about it, then you're missing the point entirely. doing things to save time and be efficient defeats the point, it's supposed to be about slowing down, processing the information, and letting it simmer
undreamedgore@reddit
First of all, I'm reading/listening to fiction. Not some heady philosophy or self help book or something. Easier to parse.
Second, once I learn character names and form a concept for them, then it's easy to pickup the rest. I will occasionally pause and go back if I missed something, or need to use more mentaly focus at work.
Plus, I read so fast audio books are actually slower. Combined with ADD, lets just say I've doubled up before.
kikikza@reddit
For sure I mainly read nonfiction so retaining the information is the entire point of it (mainly history, stuff about the industry I work in, or things pertaining to music or sports, both consuming and playing), but fair enough
undreamedgore@reddit
I don't read it too much, but I do like listening to journals, letters and logs from the Civil War. But I've done that so much I can generally place things easily. Plus, it's more about getting a sense of the change rather than specifics.
kikikza@reddit
It's not the us civil war but check out Leaves From a Russian Diary, it's during the Russian Revolution. I simply could not put the thing down (well except for the part written in 1950, which was just academic reflections)
undreamedgore@reddit
I'm assuming there's a well translated version? And to be honest, I'm mostly interested in American history.
kikikza@reddit
It's in English, the guy came to the us after he was exiled
undreamedgore@reddit
Interesting.
mrstorydude@reddit
Audio books generally aren't counted as cheating if you treat the process of listening to an audio book the same as the process of reading a book.
If you're going out and driving while listening to an audiobook, or you're doing some work while listening to one, or really any kind of multi-tasking, it's "cheating" in a competition sense since you likely aren't also using your imagination while listening to the book (unless you want to crash)
bremsspuren@reddit
Depends. Do you also do work at work?
undreamedgore@reddit
Sometimes. I'm not right now, but I'm trying to pace myself and not over perform.
Sengfroid@reddit
Employer: Yes.
CyclicalFlow@reddit
It's only cheating if you make it a competition. I read at home and listen to the audiobook at work because if I didn't it would take me a few months to get through a single one and ai would've forgotten half of it by the end.
duckrollin@reddit
It's weird to think that anyone would think audiobooks are 'cheating'
How do you think people passed down knowledge and stories before writing? It was verbal.
Audio is the original and best way for humans to relate information to each other.
thedarkestnips@reddit
It’s not cheating, but those dudes refer to it as “reading” and will downvote you to the core of the earth if you suggest that it’s anything otherwise.
outland_king@reddit
My sister in law does exclusively audio books and tries to come off as some well read bibliophile. She even follows book groups
I call her out on it every time just to watch her mental gymnastics at work.
1967542950@reddit
So long as full attention is given and full reading comprehension is understood, it’s the same thing, kind of a weird thing to give her shit over.
Unless she’s listening while doing something that requires a lot of attention and not retaining anything, in which case go off king
RawardHoikes91@reddit
Only blind people give audio books their undivided attention. Everyone else put them on as background noise.
outland_king@reddit
100%
People cant even give a TV show their attention, much less something without pretty colors and explosions.
Capnshredder@reddit
im with you, as long as they actually pay attention that counts 100% as having “read” the book. the problem arises when people have them playing at 300% playback speed in the background just to say theyve read a lot. I used to love reading as a kid, but with life and work i dont have as much time so i do audible when im working or driving, but i never listen to anything other than on original speed, i prefer to actually enjoy the story, especially for booktrack versions that have background noises/music, the witcher book track versions are absolute masterpieces
1967542950@reddit
Very similar boat here, it’s not technically “reading” but if someone said they read a series via audiobook I wouldn’t feel they said an incorrect statement, so long as they paid full attention.
A good narrator can make a series a lot better. I read the entire Red Rising series via audiobook recently, I’m 100% certain that I would not have finished the first book, let alone the series, if the narrator they used for every audiobook wasn’t fantastic at his job, and so clearly having a ton of fun.
Capnshredder@reddit
that was the last straw to push me over the edge and start red rising, youre the 3rd person to reccomend it
Letters_to_Dionysus@reddit
if you make a big deal about things like that instead of getting what people mean you no joke might wanna get a screening for the tism
MattTheGuy2@reddit
I like audio books because it allows me to still feel like I’m doing something productive
brightcrayon92@reddit
"Hey guys I only read 12243207679 books this month, am I a slow reader?"
Psykopatate@reddit
I thought "chapter book" meant it's released chapter by chapter and the author is baiting you to pay more and more. I guess i'm not online chronically enough.
Apsorkat@reddit
My autistic ass thought it's a warhammer book about some space marine chapter, so anon was sad because it's a Black Library novel :D
ArrhaCigarettes@reddit
Haha, no. But you described a real business model. Webnovels are usually monetized by a "pay me to read X number of chapters ahead of the public release". At least in the west.
BirbsAreSoCute@reddit
You either don't read web novels or you aren't finding them in the right place. Join an indie publisher like Quibble or something and join their community
skrrskrr64@reddit
Love me some web novels
talesfromtheepic6@reddit
it’s a lot more fun having to take more time to read through chapter by chapter and engage with a community. I’ve found a few authors who post chapters long enough for my lunch break.
nogaesallowed@reddit
I thought its like a chapter from a collection of stories and dude was complaining its too short/not a full in depth story
GruntBlender@reddit
Bitch, that's manga
Champomi@reddit
Pretty easy to find manga scans online for free, way harder to do that with novels
Twisty1020@reddit
Completely false.
Champomi@reddit
You will mostly find the novels that have released an official ebook, which is not all the books out there. People who pirate novels copy the text files of the official ebooks, while people who pirate mangas scan the pages and translate/edit it themselves
Also, if I'm looking for a foreign manga/webtoon/comics that hasn't been officially translated in my language yet, I can still find a fanmade translation pretty easily. If I'm looking for a foreign novel that hasn't been officially translated in my language yet, it's gonna be way harder to find it and there's a higher chance for it to be an AI translation
GruntBlender@reddit
I'm sure just about anything released as an epub has been pirated
SirFuffy@reddit
And Charles Dickens, funnily enough
clanker_lover2@reddit
to be fair, thats also webnovels
Thendrail@reddit
Shit, you have a point there...
mrstorydude@reddit
That is called a serial and is more specifically a web serial or a web novel.
Sbotkin@reddit
That's more or less how it was a couple of centuries ago.
The_Freshmaker@reddit
I mean it's understandable since it's quite the novel concept.
OG_Felwinter@reddit
Chapter book just means novel. It has nothing to do with being chronically online.
BackgroundTotal2872@reddit
those are web serials.
manyroadstotake@reddit
That's a serial
Everestkid@reddit
Many classic novels were actually originally released like that. The real term is called a serial.
Big__If_True@reddit
It’s a term used to differentiate from picture books, for kids. OP as a grown ass adult using the term is what’s funny
basilisk_boi2@reddit
We need a cataclysmic event that basically sends us back to the Stone Age
F-Lambda@reddit
why, so that no one reads?
VixYT@reddit
Desolations from The Stormlight Archive (chapter book series)
hakenkrojc123@reddit
No, we don't. Fuck off doomer.
-SandorClegane-@reddit
I was already gooning to cave paintings and papyrus scribbles, let's go!!!
MightyTurianEmpire@reddit
i love reading! who here has good horror book recommendations?
Loud_Interview4681@reddit
Gamers Guide to Beating the Tutorial
MightyTurianEmpire@reddit
if anyone cares about my recommendation i recommend hekla’s children by james brogden
thebigvas@reddit
Dresden Files. It’s an amazing series and might even be the book op was referring to in the green text
zombieGenm_0x68@reddit
lol didnt that book also inspire door chud
bremsspuren@reddit
The Dresden Files aren't horror novels, they're a mashup of hard-boiled detective fiction and fantasy. Sam Spade, but he's a wizard.
madhattergirl@reddit
I enjoyed "Relic" by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. Skip the movie, it was crap.
Ohgodwatdoplshelp@reddit
Parasite by Darcy Coates if you’re into scifi horror.
MightyTurianEmpire@reddit
i’ve read darcy coates i’m tryna remember which book it was but i will check this out
Ohgodwatdoplshelp@reddit
She has quite a few horror books but I believe this one of the few, if not the only scifi horror she’s made.
thebigvas@reddit
I’ve read this and can confirm it’s a trip
myn3meisjo3@reddit (OP)
house of leaves
MightyTurianEmpire@reddit
i hate to say it but i tried reading house of leaves and i couldn’t get into it but i really wanted to
Melokar@reddit
I've got two, stolen tounges and william
MightyTurianEmpire@reddit
oh man stolen tongues was good i really enjoyed that read
Roko__@reddit
God forbid you have to create images inside your own head
bendyfan1111@reddit
Some people can't do that. Like, biologically can't
Loud_Interview4681@reddit
Duh, he said God forbid them.
RodjaJP@reddit
Me trying to picture what I just read
NclWill@reddit
well. . . r/aphantasia
MiniGogo_20@reddit
these are the same people using ai to send an email, of course they can't imagine an image in their heads
Low_Abrocoma_1514@reddit
Wtf is a Chapter book ?
BirbsAreSoCute@reddit
Well.. what do you think it is?
Low_Abrocoma_1514@reddit
A book with chapters but then what book doesn't have chapters ? Hence my confusion
Zeiad98@reddit
Similar to a novel it such, just text without images and the like thus the reply made to OOP
SuperArppis@reddit
"Chapter book" ?Is this kind of a same caliber thing as that "Adult Woman Feitsh" coin phrase someone on 4chan came up with?
GruntBlender@reddit
Apparently some US children use that term to distinguish normal books from picture books.
Babki123@reddit
The word "Novel" is dead
Positive_Action_5377@reddit
You can also say prose text. You can have a graphic novel adaptation, and neither are any less a novel as its the same story, but the distinction is its medium.
pixelpoet_nz@reddit
yeah like PIN number
logaboga@reddit
lol not every “chapter book” is a novel. And that term is used by like kids who were recently toddlers and it’s been a thing for 20 years bc I did it when I was in like 1st grade
Babki123@reddit
I guesd this isbyour transmation of "Roman"
DoktorTim@reddit
Romans are fictional by definition, as are novels
Babki123@reddit
Wdym the Roman empire was very real
logaboga@reddit
I am saying that there are nonfiction books with chapters that are not novels or roman a clefs
Babki123@reddit
HOW DO YOU CALL THEM THEN CHIEF ?!
logaboga@reddit
A fuckin book buddy. I am saying it is incorrect to refer to ALL BOOKS as novels since all books are NOT novels
Babki123@reddit
No ,a fucking book buddy is someone you call to have sex after a good read (or while reading but I only recommend reading theater piece in that case )
I'm asking the word you used to talk about a "chapter book" that is more than a short read
logaboga@reddit
I also wanted to make another reply to say that a novel is, by definition, a work of narrative fiction. Not all large books with chapters are narrative fiction. That’s why I’m saying not all “chapter books” are novels. You can have a history book, a technical book, a textbook, etc
Xxzzeerrtt@reddit
Stop being a tool.
Babki123@reddit
Na
OlroxPrime@reddit
you are so cringe
boofaniel@reddit
A lot of things depending on the book. Many early authors now considered novelists referred to their books as romances. Modernist authors generally disliked the novel form and tried to move past it categorizing their books as myth, elegy, playpoem, etc. A novel is just one type of many within fiction but you seem very smug about not knowing what you’re talking about
Babki123@reddit
I know them but in french
I only know of "book" and "novel "in english, and genuily wondered the other term
but with a bit of EMOTION (and stupidity )
logaboga@reddit
A book
Sbotkin@reddit
Roman is much bigger, novel can be very short.
JakeVonFurth@reddit
Chapter Book is the term for early-reader level novels. It's to distinguish from Picture Books, where the target age is the same, but 1/2 to 3/4 of the page may be illustrations.
MrLazyLion@reddit
American education is an oxymoron.
BirbsAreSoCute@reddit
Someone learned a big word today
BirbsAreSoCute@reddit
Me when I just say shit on reddit (I don't know what I'm talking about)
Mattdoss@reddit
For small kids, they can struggle to remember words like Novel, novella, or just short fiction. They aren't likely to use the word "graphic" to describe comics or books with pictures. To them, they are just using what they see as distinguishing features instead. Once they grow up a little, they start to get the terms down pat. I was using the word "Novel" as early as late elementary school.
jordonkry@reddit
It's for books like Judy B. Jones, basically starter novels for 1st-3rd graders
BackgroundTotal2872@reddit
The Magic Treehouse series was absolutely peak back in the day.
UncommittedBow@reddit
Legitimately what got me interested in history. That and I Survived
BackgroundTotal2872@reddit
I loved those too!
Xxzzeerrtt@reddit
I tore through the entire Junie b jones library when I was a kid lol. Series lowk fell off when she graduated to the first grade.
Java_Text@reddit
"8 year olds aren't using the word "Novel", America is dead"
Babki123@reddit
That's another symptoms on the pile yes
asingleshot7@reddit
"chapter book" is a term/class used for young children learning to read to differentiate between picture books/short stories and chapterized stories. Typically the first step in non-illustrated reading.
Think; Magic treehouse, pippi longstockings, the wayside school, the little prince, etc.
Later they move to short novels like hardy boys or nancy drew.
The class of books and term have been around longer than you have been alive.
OlroxPrime@reddit
kikikza@reddit
no because novels are necessarily fictional but 'chapter book' is a term children use to refer to books which are entirely text split into chapters as opposed to books with pictures
Maximillion322@reddit
No it isn’t. “Chapter books” is a phrase only used by small children learning to read real books for the first time. I also called them “chapter books” when I was in like first grade, but I haven’t used the phrase since then. Hence Anon being clocked as a small child
Wiggie49@reddit
That’s cuz illiteracy rates have always been pretty bad but have gotten significantly worse with late zoomers
jamiebond@reddit
No it isn’t lol this is just for literal babies. Thus why everyone is making fun of OP for using it as a grown ass man.
OlroxPrime@reddit
n-no it isn’t…
charmys_@reddit
Of course its US children
Guardiancomplex@reddit
Even in the US, it's just mostly southern kindergartens. This is some professional illiteracy.
Rakhered@reddit
Idk about that, it's pretty common in the Great lakes region too
Captainsnake04@reddit
this is not true. I went to one of the best elementary schools in America, in the suburbs of Chicago, and they were absolutely using "chapter book".
becaauseimbatmam@reddit
We are talking about preschoolers and kindergarteners here. You should feel no need to feel intellectually superior to 4-year-olds regardless of where they originate.
Sbotkin@reddit
Something tells me anon on 4chan isn't 4 yo
Resolve-Single@reddit
Which is why people are mocking him.
dirtymike401@reddit
Maybe not intellectually, but I'm pretty sure I could physically take on most 4 year olds in a fight.
TurkeyZom@reddit
I don’t know, I feel like their swarm tactics would take you out
Ronin_Akira_vt@reddit
It’s used as a transitional term for kids in very early elementary school, like 6-7 year old kids, to describe novels that are intended to transition them from reading picture books to actual novels. A lot of early children’s literature like Treasure Island or Peter Pan would be described as chapter books.
Mr_Kase@reddit
It’s a term for very short books aimed at Primary School kids. Basically the length of 1 or 2 Chapters in a more typical novel, hence the name.
ThirstyWolfSpider@reddit
I was in my 40s or 50s before I first became aware of that term.
In my day, we called them books.
skttlskttl@reddit
It's a byproduct of the summer reading programs that are offered at libraries throughout the country. Basically within almost all of those programs there are tiers of books that earn more or less rewards depending on how complex they are. So a 20 page picture book isn't worth as much as a 100 page chapter book which isn't worth as much as a full length novel.
When I was in high school I volunteered at a library for that program and I remember if a kid only read picture books they could earn a coupon for a free small ice cream, a kid who only read chapter book could get a T-shirt and an ice cream, and if a kid read chapter books they got the lower prizes and discounted admission for some of the museums in the city. The idea being that by capping how much each tier could earn it would push kids towards reading the higher tiers.
Attack_of_clams@reddit
Yes. I called them that in kindergarten lol
thedrcubed@reddit
It's a phrase used by teachers and kids learning to read
SuperArppis@reddit
Oh...
JPowTheDayTrader@reddit
This is one of the craziest phrase I've read on the Internet lmao
SuperArppis@reddit
xenomorph91622@reddit
That's what I called novels when I was 6
EuenovAyabayya@reddit
Not to be confused with a verse book.
BigHeadDeadass@reddit
Or the term "qualityslop" where you only like something bc it's good?
centre_drill@reddit
Rainbow Magic novels are chapter books. When your kid is like 6 they will read one chapter of fairies chasing goblins or whatever per night.
Oxford Reading Tree is not chapter books. When your kid is like 4 they will read a whole book (total word count: ~40) per evening.
Sapper501@reddit
A chapter book is a beginner level book intended for children from late preschool to second grade. And no, this is a widely known term. 4chan did not create the term.
Theseus505@reddit
Seems so.
Ronin_69_@reddit
This image being so crusty is genuinely the best part of it all..
SuperArppis@reddit
Crusty... Just the right way.
Automatic-Worry-1498@reddit
"Say the line Bart"
Roadkillgoblin_2@reddit
->be me
->have adult woman fetish
->get bored of porn, so try to read some smut instead
->mfw all the books have chapters
viciouspandas@reddit
Straightest straight man post
Tumifaigirar@reddit
LMAO this is it, exactly what I was thinking.
Stranger-Chance@reddit
This image ragebaits me so damn hard every single time I see it
SpecificExam3661@reddit
On the other hand, do they had a word for really long novel like 1- 2M word long but just a single novel.
Ford2059@reddit
I went to primary school in the states. "Chapter books" was what we called those scary looking thick books with little to no pictures, until I reached 3rd grade and started realizing they were just regular books.
Around 4th grade kids at my school just called them regular books, and switched to using "picture books" for the books we thought were normal when we were younger.
Street_Property2045@reddit
I find it hard to read manga and comics, pacing is always weird and structuring is hella off. Novels are just better
blippie@reddit
Is this really surprising, from a country where 50% of adults cannot read a book written at an eighth-grade level ?
myn3meisjo3@reddit (OP)
The United Kingdom?
theyeshman@reddit
I will not engage with generation discourse ragebait I will not engage with generation discourse ragebait I will not engage with generation discourse ragebait
TeeVee0@reddit
Sengfroid@reddit
Blatant rage bait. No one's gonna say "chapter books" without intentionally implying it's converse, "picture books". OOP is laying low quality bait.
WintersbaneGDX@reddit
Are you suggesting OOP is not a master baiter?
NuggetWarrior09@reddit
Actual books have and will always have 100x the level of depth that any comic book could. One piece is my favorite series of all time but in terms of the dozens of actual novels I’ve read, the depth and detail just doesn’t come close.
Pretty-Researcher404@reddit
dafuck is a chapter book mean. Like a regular book?
treewizard13@reddit
The literacy crisis in action
Gramerdim@reddit
ELIG what's a chapter book
Foxfox105@reddit
A book that has chapters. Typically only kids describe books like that though.
Katsurandom@reddit
the heck is a chapter book? A book made of a single chapter? A one shot? WHAT IS IT?!?!?
zombieGenm_0x68@reddit
rein moment
zombieGenm_0x68@reddit
rein moment
Sethleoric@reddit
Anon should pray that it gets a shitty movie adaptation.
Canal_De_Ivan@reddit
but what was the book
myn3meisjo3@reddit (OP)
A chapter vook
Canal_De_Ivan@reddit
oh you're right my vad
Connect_Structure289@reddit
what is a chapter book??
Marcorange@reddit
A normal book lol
Connect_Structure289@reddit
oh thanks
seanthebeloved@reddit
A book with chapters.
helium_hydride-63@reddit
I was confused on what he meant by chapter book... i thought he meant some weird ass book...
Ale4leo@reddit
Can we at least wait a month before reposting? I've seen this one five times already.
MR_DERP_YT@reddit
so it's a normal story book? big deal
-TheBlackSwordsman-@reddit
Bro thought mistborn was a manga
Fflamddwyn@reddit
Wordslop
orange_diaster@reddit
Anon is an embarrassment to society
uvero@reddit
Repost of one this year's top posts
myn3meisjo3@reddit (OP)
Welcome to r/greentexts
DatClown@reddit
As a disgusting manhwa reader I have to give anon this: it's pretty common for banger manhwas to have either an awfully translated novel, or have the novel be poorly written and propped up in manhwa form by strong art. As I'm not reading them in their native language I can't discern which is which.
Ohgodwatdoplshelp@reddit
Sir this is a Wendy’s.
UsErNaMeS_aR_DuMb@reddit
The median American voter: