Türkiye's first intercontinental missile, Yıldırım Han, was introduced. The target/location hit in the animation is significant! Crossing the Iberian peninsula and beyond the Atlantic, a country/region thargeted what has nuclear facilities. What do you think about the place that looks where?
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karagiannhss@reddit
Brother please for the love of God/Alah/Budah/what have you learn to speak english.
ElLoboTurco@reddit
i dont understand the neccessity for 6000km range, greece is right there...right there...
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
we dont' need anything but sticks and stones to defeat greece. this is for israel senior's deterrence
throwraislander@reddit
This is what Russia also said for Ukraine 🙃 And Turkiye is not Russia
raceregos@reddit
Yes, Turkey is Turkey. And I'm really happy with the fact that we are not Russia.
Individual_Special18@reddit
Ye u happily steal Sirian land and bomb Kurds on daily basis,with pretty much zero consequences.
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
bombing terrorists is a fair game
Individual_Special18@reddit
International Crisis Group (ICG): Tracks at least 655 civilians and 226 "individuals of unknown affiliation" (often young people killed in curfew zones) killed in Turkey between July 2015 and January 2026.Well i guess it fair game to blow up kids and woman if u are Turkish.
raceregos@reddit
Approximately 1k security personnel also lost their lives in operations back in 2015. Many of those people were part of the PKK, armed and rebellious against Turkish forces. If you think anybody or any personnel were killing innocent people on purpose, you’ve lost your mind. We could technically bomb those areas and not lose any lives, but our forces cleared the area building by building. What you are saying is not only baseless but also lacks the background that led to that point.
Individual_Special18@reddit
Ye Turkish imperialism led to u guys trying to steal another part of Syria like u allready stole Hatay province.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Syria as a country became a thing after Hatay joined Turkey. How did we steal Hatay from Syria?
Individual_Special18@reddit
Rigged Referendum: Many historians and Syrian officials argue the 1939 referendum was rigged. Turkey allegedly moved tens of thousands of people into the region to influence the vote.
French "Bribe": Critics claim France ceded the territory to Turkey to secure its neutrality or alliance in the impending World War II, violating the terms of its own mandate to protect Syrian territorial integrity.Serious question at this point,do u even use books in Turkey?
Zrva_V3@reddit
Before you spam AI slop read what I said first.
Syria as a nation did not exist. It was simply a French mandated province. It didn't have any actual historical borders because it was never a thing. Hatay joining Turkey predates Syria becoming an actual nation.
If anything, countries like Syria and Iraq are made up states by colonial empires. What territorial integrity? A French and a British dude just drew some lines on the map. Why would we care about all that?
Individual_Special18@reddit
Damn didn’t know people in Turkey are scared of a simple google search bar.What where Turkish historical borders at the time tho?At what point was Hatay historically Turkish?(the annexation of Hatay by Turkey in 1939, and the events surrounding it, are associated with significant human rights abuses and the ethnic cleansing of minority populations, particularly Armenians and Arabs, who fled out of fear)So u preatty much ethically cleansed the land move some loyal population there and rigged an referendum.Please stop embarrassing ur self’s lol.
Zrva_V3@reddit
We literally controlled it for like 1000 years straight with some interruptions like the crusades. Turks have always had a way stronger claim on Hatay than Arabs and the city itself was Turkish majority.
Hell, even the Independent State of Hatay's flag was just the Turkish flag with hollow star and crescent. When they joined they just stitched the hollow crescent and star with white cloth instead of getting new Turkish flags.
Zrva_V3@reddit
This is something to be proud of as it means only around 10-15% civilian casualty rate in heavy urban combat operations. Other countries in similar scenarios do way, way worse. Like I'm talking 60-80% civilian casualties kind of worse.
You can look all this up, don't take my word for it. You will not find any similar recent conflict with less civilian casualties.
It means we not only avoided deliberately striking civilians but made a huge extra effort to reduce civilian losses. We sacrificed soldiers in street to street fighting instead of flattening them from the air to save more civilians.
Individual_Special18@reddit
Ok some facts i can respect that.Sure thing it’s a minimal civilian casualty rate,but u could just give back the land that u stole from Kurds,than u wouldn’t have casualties at all.
Zrva_V3@reddit
We conquered this land from the Romans who also conquered it from someone else.
Kurds mostly settled within our current borders after the Turkic invasions after 1071. They had some presence in the region but overall, they were also newcomers as their homeland is the Zagros Mountains in Iran.
We didn't steal any land from the Kurds.
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
Lol yes PKK is a terrorist group killing innocents
Zrva_V3@reddit
We pulled out of Syria. We have bases there but we no longer hold territory. We also have the Syrian government's consent.
We don't even kill the YPG or PKK terrorists anymore. When was the last time we bombed anyone?
Individual_Special18@reddit
January 19, 2026: Kurdish forces reported Turkish drone strikes in Hasaka city, which Turkish sources denied, amidst heightened tension.
Early 2025: Turkish airstrikes targeted areas in Kobani, with a late January 2025 strike on a market in Sarin reported to have killed 13 civilians.There u go again just a simple google search.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Seems like a yearly basis at best to me. The war in Syria is over so we have no reason to bomb them except some high profile targets who still pose a threat.
raceregos@reddit
No we don't. You're mental.
Individual_Special18@reddit
According to a report by the Institute for the Study of War, as of January 2026, the Syrian transitional government had fully taken control of the territory previously controlled by the Syrian National Army factions. TURKEY still maintains military positions within formerly SNA-coded territory.U seem to be the mental one here tho,stop stealing other peoples land.
raceregos@reddit
No you are the one being mental. SNA is supported by Turkey just like the Syrian government. We overthrew the regime together. The secured zone is mandatory for border safety. Stop nagging if you don't know the reasons behind it. We're good with Syrians and their government. And we proved that with the things we have done for them since the beginning of the civil war. Better stop using X (twitter) as your main source of knowledge, it's not for you 👍🏻
Individual_Special18@reddit
Turkey introduced the Turkish lira (TL) in parts of northern Syria, specifically in areas under Turkish military control or influence (such as Idlib, Afrin, and the "Euphrates Shield" zones). Beginning in mid-2020.Hope Syrians and Kurds can one day live free in their land without Turkey trying to stealing their land and murder their people.
raceregos@reddit
Yeah, and built some hospitals too? So? Syrians already started to go back to their homeland safely last year. See? No one is stealing lands here lol
Kurds live freely in Turkey. Aren't you tired making up bs? Have some honor and dignity.
Individual_Special18@reddit
Lol so u can occupy parts internationaly recognized country’s if u build hospitals.Have some dignity ur self,ain’t even gona talk about honor.
Bbcottawa2021@reddit
A serb talking about honor, as if his people werent genociding in the 90s 😭😭 and had the entire international community on their ass about it too
Individual_Special18@reddit
Lmao American talking about a genocide,bitch u are litteraly sponsoring an ongoing genocide in Palestine.Not to mention whatever the fuck are u doing in Iran right now.GTFO 😭
Bbcottawa2021@reddit
I am not american you idiot 😭😭
Individual_Special18@reddit
Lmao never had X or whatever in my life but since u know about information on it u are using it on a daily basis i suppose.Stop killing Kurdish civilians and since u seem to be to dumb to use a google search bar i am going to educate u about how u are still killing civilians to this day(Based on data from the International Crisis Group, at least 655 civilians have been killed in Turkey's conflict with the PKK since July 2015, with many of these incidents occurring in urban centers in southeastern Turkey. The data indicates that civilian fatalities are often linked to clashes, urban operations, and aerial bombardments in the region.)
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
greece is no ukraine, i can assure you. we have a pretty good track record of beating them
FortisPatria@reddit
yea better than them
Athalos124@reddit
Too confident when they only people you have been at war with recently are disorganized poorly supplied resistance-rebel groups and never an army
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
For your info YPG has every kind of heavy weaponry given by US. Tatal amount of 200 plane loads of systems plus 40.000 truck loads of weapons were estimated to cost like 60 billions of USD. Lately Trump himself told that they have given Kurds weapons to handle Iranian groups but they did not handle weapons to them and he was not happy with that. Amount of YPG army which is trained by US, French, German and Greek specialist rose to 60.000. 12 thousand of special forces unit is not included to this numbers. Yet, I am not giving detailed numbers. You can ofcourse add Peshmerga forces in Iraq but there is a small nuance, Turkish armed forces also trained and from time to time training Peshmerga forces as well as Iraqi. Now question is, what is the military budget of Greece in last 5 years? 55Billion USD?
TNT_GR@reddit
Our air force alone could handle YPG wtf are you people smoking
Zrva_V3@reddit
Can it though? I very highly doubt your air force has any more than say around 3000 guided bombs.
We spent as much on Afrin operation alone. We produce our own bombs so we have plenty and can always produce more. That's the only reason why we didn't run out of stock.
Afrin was only a small chunk of YPG territory. I think you legitimately would struggle against YPG because fighting wars is all about logistics and logistical challanges are the hardest of all.
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
Sure you do. When I was in navy one of my friends' took a selfie smoking next to Limnos airbase. I do not know if he is still smoking or not.
TNT_GR@reddit
Of course that proves your point
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
Your point of YPG id not a regilar army which can not even defend itself?
Athalos124@reddit
Holy delusion
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
They were fully funded by the west so I'd say yeah we're very confident
Mad_Kronos@reddit
LOL it's so funny you believe that
bagpulistu@reddit
You could beat the Greeks with their own stones quite literally: Ephesus, Miletus, Pergamon, Hagia Sophia. Plenty of ammo.
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
Nah, that's just stolen land from lykians and Hittites
WillAndHonesty@reddit
Maybe to target the Greek diaspora as well, since that's the place where the greatest patriots must live
ElLoboTurco@reddit
berlin is not 6000km away though
MadeOfEurope@reddit
They said Greek, not Turkish
fk_censors@reddit
There are plenty of Kurds in Berlin, so...
MadeOfEurope@reddit
Very good point 😳
newuser_2000@reddit
There are as much greeks in Germany as turks in relation to the respective populations lol
MadeOfEurope@reddit
1.5m Turks vs 350,000 Greeks. Can you tell which number is bigger?
TNT_GR@reddit
In relation to the respective populations he said
TheRedBaron-7@reddit
My brother, a diaspora population of 450,000 is still huge.
JonnydieZwiebel@reddit
They said Berlin, not Germany
newuser_2000@reddit
And can you tell what in relations to the respective populations mean? 350,000 greeks is about 3.4% of Greece (10.1 million) whereas 1.5 million turks make about 1.7% of turkey (87.7 million). So capita wise there are more greeks than turks in Germany lmao
TheRedBaron-7@reddit
Famously no Greeks live in Germany
MadeOfEurope@reddit
I’m sure you know that there is a very large Turkish diaspora in Germany, 1.5m. The Greek one is around 350,000. Now, I don’t have a phd in mathematics but one of these numbers is bigger than the other.
TheRedBaron-7@reddit
I live in Germany brother, Greeks are mainly concentrated in Berlin, Frankfurt and Stuttgart. That‘s why I said what I said. We have approx. 3 million Turks and half a million Greeks. So why can we talk about Australia as a centre of ghe Greek diaspora when only 400,000 Greeks live there but we can‘t talk about Germany when more Greeks live here than in Australia? You don‘t need a mathematics phd to answer this.
MadeOfEurope@reddit
That’s a long way to say that the Turkish population in Germany is bigger than the Greek one.
TheRedBaron-7@reddit
No one denied that. The guy above said Berlin is not 6000km away and you said Turks, not Greeks for some reason even though Berlin has a sizeable Greek community. Trying to lecture me about the city I live in lol
MadeOfEurope@reddit
Hour-Conversation728@reddit
Yes indeed, If we cannot reach glendale in california, then there is no point.
gavats@reddit
I guess the most powerful diaspora lives in California. Turks gotta up their game
Elmalukat@reddit
Can’t reach Melbourne
WhittakersLeftFoot@reddit
Yet
TurkOmbre@reddit
Turkey is a nation with international reach; our geographical focus is not limited to the Aegean Sea or the Middle East. Turkey is more than that…
Iapetus404@reddit
lmao!
blumonste@reddit
Yet, that reach won't solve population decline, chronic unemployment, chronic inflation, widespread poverty, corruption in every level in the society, absence of rule of law.... If you can't do basics don't pretend aiming for the stars.
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
I do not understand why even we need weapons for Greece as well.
TNT_GR@reddit
Delusional or high
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
You are craving of war? So, be it. Delusion of Greeks being super puper duper mighty will ruin them one day with their population less than İstanbul. Instead being best budies with us you are dreaming of getting Constantinople back(!), megali idea, undermining Turkey in every possibility, having enemy of my emeny is my friend policy, creating maps by yourself and than trying to dictate it in a place where we share it together while there is already a treaty signed regulating it, forging genocide claims but forgetting what you did yourself,.. and yes we are "delusional or high". We do not need weapons for fighting with Greece, Turkey already has manpower in Greece. What you can not understand even if 90million pisses in Greece there will be devastating floods. We do not want war with Greece as Turks but if you crave it that much you will surely get it one day, just continue your enmity.
Western-Direction395@reddit
I'm assuming they're getting ready with some deterrence because Israel will want to attack turkey eventually and we all know the US will withdraw once that happens
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
shrugs in Cyprus
Turkey is isolating itself with the Cyprus situation. Give Cyprus back, remove the colonists and the international community would have your back.
Turkey is putting a target on its back with Northern Cyprus. What's wrong with Israel looking to take land off Turkey when Turkey is doing it to Cyprus?
yamankara@reddit
oh yes, the international community. famous for protecting those who need protection!
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
There is no threat of genocide for Turkish Cypriots in cyprus in 2026.
yamankara@reddit
I actually agree. But didn't you mean int'l community protecting TR in a potential ISR aggression? That, is a joke.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
It isn't a joke. Israel won't mess with a UN country in good books. We are the group of countries most favourable to Israel after the US. But it's very hard to defend Turkey with what's going on in Cyprus.
Fuzzy_Alg@reddit
An example that comes to my mind is Lebanon, which Macron has been supporting for years. He said at every opportunity that Lebanon was under French protection, and at the end of the day, when Israel attacked, I didn't hear a single word from him.
yamankara@reddit
UN country in good books?
You are a group of countries most favourable to Israel?
Dude, these not only don't make sense (like literally) but in some weird way also (I guess) do imply that one has to try so that Israel is, what, merciful towards them? F that.
KillerPalm@reddit
It's not as easy as that is it?
The two sides will also have to actually come to an agreement on the rules of a reunification. The TCs simply won't accept anything unless there are some security guarantees for them (whether you agree with that stance or not) and you can't really disagree with them with Israel putting it's fingers in the pie.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
It is.
The Turks have no right to be doing what they are doing.
Peacekeeping =/= drilling for oil. Stealing houses. Importing 400k mainland Turks.
This isn't peacekeeping.
KillerPalm@reddit
And them just leaving is not a possibility without the TCs and GCs agreeing to reunify. How is that hard to understand?
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
Because the terms put forward by the Turks were unacceptable.
Turkish Cypriots made up 18% of the population in 1970.
You are refusing to deport Anatolian Turks who you let in illegally.
Refused to give the Greeks their houses back.
Demanded that Cyprus would be turk controlled for 30% of the time.
The Turks need to actually put forward a fair deal, you are asking to keep everything that you stole and also have an undemocratic government to favour yourselves.
KillerPalm@reddit
Maybe the Greeks should actually try to earn our trust in the first place then. You think we'd demand any of these things if the Greeks actually tried to make us trust them?
Don't be fooled we're treated like 2nd class citizens even today. Ask any TC who actually tries to get their RoC passport which they're legally obliged to have.
The GCs should actually act like they want to share the country for a start. But I wouldn't expect anyone like you to understand that. It's all out fault isn't it?
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
No response?
What was wrong with the GC's stance?
KillerPalm@reddit
Wait for ten fucking minutes, Jesus Christ, some of us have lives you know?
1) TCs need security guarantees. Whether that’s Turkey or someone else that’s up for debate but we need them. And no the eu is not a good replacement through the sheer presence of greece and France ensuring that they’ll be biased against us. The GCs may not be a threat to us now, but what about in twenty or thirty years? Keep in mind Elam is the second most popular party there right now.
2) there is an expectation that at least some settlers will remain. They’ve been here for 50 years and whether you like it or not they’ve become friends and started families with locals. Splitting these families up will be a no go. Similarly there will be a desire to put a limit on the number of mainland Greeks that can be naturalised citizens to stop the ratios from tipping in their favour. A 1:1 between a Greek being granted citizenship and a Turk doing so has been discussed.
3) there needs to be something in place to ensure that the GCs can’t just vote for something that goes against TCs by the sheer factor of being the majority. Whether it’s a veto or something else. We’ve seen the GCs do the exact same thing in the 60s and look where it led us. Yes it will be a mess to find a system that works but the truth is there is just no trust here.
4) we’d also expect our properties back or to at least be compensated. The process of doing so is such a mess that no one even bothers anymore.
5) and frankly we’d need the GCs to actually be accountable for some of the things they’ve done against us. It’s very much noticeable that they use the actions of Turkey to whitewash and to cover for their own actions. Barely any eoka b members have faced jail time. And we do notice that they like to make it seem like they’re the only victims on the international stage.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
You really think the GCs would want to go through losing half the country again? Then use the UK or NATO. I mean who else are you suggesting?
I'm pretty sure the GCs also wanted this.
It's the same for the Turks tho, who ended up doing far worse than the GCs did.
KillerPalm@reddit
I believe they would if they could. You need to understand that ELAM is currently the third most popular party there, and their popularity is increasing. Even if 10% of GCs think that way, that's still a big enough proportion to cause damage. And frankly we're given no reason to trust them
Yes but how many are willing to actually give our land back to us?
Exactly my point. Using that actions to Turkey to whitewash and minimise their own actions. Thanks for being a clear example.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
You believe they would want to reunite the country then risk losing it again? I doubt that.
The Greeks wanted full property return. The Turks refusee and demanded some of the Turkish Cypriots would be allowed to keep the stolen land.
KillerPalm@reddit
4) whether you like it or not many of the settlers who have moved here have made friends and start families over the 50 year period. Yes many of them should leave but there is an expectation that some will stay. There is no desire for peoples friends and family members to be deported.
5) there needs to be some kind of political guarantee. Whether it’s a veto or something else. The TCs don’t want to be at the whim of the remaining 80% and to have our voices constantly overshadowed by the much larger voting block potentially constantly voting our interests. We’ve seen the effects of this in the 60s and look where that led us.
6) there is a desire to keep the population ratios constant. This is muddled with Greeks being able to freely move to Cyprus. There is a desire to at least allow some kind of free movement with Turkey or to ensure that for every Greek national that’s given citizenship and ne turkish national is also granted one.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
What was wrong with what the Greek Cypriotswanted in the deal?
theoddturk@reddit
good luck with greek cypriots if you can’t stand us m8. maybe the uk might be a good place to migrate to after everything’s said and done?
KillerPalm@reddit
How about you guys leave our country instead?
theoddturk@reddit
hem türkler beni korusun hem rumlar bana para versin hemde ikisininde canı cehenneme öyle mi?
tabi efendim hemen. dünya zaten bi size dönüyor e mi.
KillerPalm@reddit
I'll reply in English so others can see the bs you've commented.
The Greeks never give us money. Any money we get is from the EU (not the Greeks wouldn't try to find a way to veto it if they could.)
And you protecting us does not negate all of the other bullshit you've done to our country, filling it with criminals and mafias, sending islamists, destroying the land to build shitty hotels and appartments. It's our land, either you start to respect us and stop treating us like 'conquered land' or stop acting suprised when we start demanding you leave the island.
theoddturk@reddit
türkçe cevap veriyorum çünkü ikimizde anlıyoruz ve anlamayan isterse yazdığımı çevirebilir.
ilk olarak, paradan kastığım üzerinizdeki ambargoların kalkması ve ab fonlarına daha kapsamlı bir şekilde sahip olmak idi. yoksa rumların sokağa çıkıp para dağıtacağını düşünmemiştim .d
ikinci olarak ise, yalan yok ada daha iyi yönetilebilirdi. öbür bir yandan da, abicim sizin türkiye harici bir çıkışınız yok ve bunun sebebide türkiye değil hani sebebi kıbrıslı rumlar. diğer tanınmayan ülkelere göre fena da değilsiniz bence. daha iyi olabilirdiniz evet ama bunun sebebide ortalama bir anadolu türkü değilki. ne bu nefret bu kin?
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
They aren't going to go without force, I think that's the sad reality.
KillerPalm@reddit
And I'm sure you'll happily wipe us out in the process too. Can't be bothered to differentiate between TC and Turk. And you'll all find some stupid reason to justify it in the end.
We all know how it'll actually go down.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
Do you realise the Turks killed and raped multitude more GCs than vice versa?
KillerPalm@reddit
And? Are you saying you would happily attack TCs as long as the end result is the removal of Turkey from the island?
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
No I'm saying you are not the victims.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
The craziest thing about the Turks is they've been dripfed the propaganda long enough they actually think they are morally right.
Even their best allies won't recognize northern Cyprus as a state, but they don't stop and ask themselves why.
saucissefatal@reddit
I have never met a non-Greek who felt anything about Cyprus. It's a frozen conflict, and we would prefer it to remain frozen.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
Who's we?
saucissefatal@reddit
The non-Greeks of the preceding clause.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
So you would prefer that thousands of GPs aren't allowed their land or housed back?
saucissefatal@reddit
I am not interested in intra-NATO disagreement on the South-Eastern flank, that's for sure.
theboltT@reddit
Nobody can do a shit, Cyprus is Turkish. Every counting second Türkiye is getting stronger meanwhile its enemies getting weaker.
TesticleSandwiches@reddit
Drink that propaganda lol.
kadaka80@reddit
Does it have the accuracy to pinpoint my risen middle finger?
Asure77@reddit
Who knows you probably claim half the Atlantic as your EZZ on top of half of the Aegean.
hubbabubbameqershi@reddit
They need to make sure to hit them even far away so they have nowhere to hide
DriveByAtanCivciv@reddit
Maybe the greeks are the friends we make along the way..
Ujemegaz@reddit
Greek army might hide away.
Saxumsium@reddit
The place that looks where? Where? What?
yns1899@reddit
Pipimer@reddit
Israel is 600km from turkey
Zrva_V3@reddit
That's what (((they))) want you to think
BlokZNCR@reddit (OP)
Greece,
not.
Marshall_BraveStar@reddit
The Turks are aiming at Mar A Lago, it seems. I support that.
blumonste@reddit
Who? What? The irreplaceable forever leader says nothing to annoy Trump. Do you know why? Because there was a letter a few years ago from Trump that plummeted the value of Turkish Lira. Since then whatever Trump says we either agree or stay silent. No adverse message from the irreplaceable leader about Trump, none.
Hydra961@reddit
I am sadly ignorant - what letter are you referring to, komşu?
StableUnlikely3980@reddit
He is just an idiot who doesn't know anything
blumonste@reddit
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/read-trumps-full-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-tough-guy-dont-be-a-fool
StableUnlikely3980@reddit
Yeah the way Türkiye is acting in the last decade definitely is for trump😁
No-Example-5107@reddit
That animation is especially shitty and inaccurate on how ICBMs work. Looks like it's not from an official source.
BlokZNCR@reddit (OP)
it's just official by Expo screen via a national-wide news media.
No-Example-5107@reddit
Damn, so they thought a video of Turkey obtaining nuclear weapons and bombing the U.S east coast is a good idea and wouldn't cause any issue?
turkus@reddit
This. This hubris is so fucking stupid, it's defeating the whole purpose of diplomatic and military readiness, deterrence. Instead of proving capabilities and new weapons platforms surely but discreetly, Turkish islamist govnt chooses to broadcast to the entire world, even before they are anywhere near ready, sending endless supply of propaganda ammunition to their foes.
And the quality of those videos, eng. translations on the signs next to weapons platforms on the expo, and some of the mockups... Just incompetence and corruption seeping in every part of society.
StableUnlikely3980@reddit
You are genuinely daft, seriously I expect someone who is outside of the country to say something like this. Do you genuinely even know anything about how this kind of missile works or are you just talking out of your ass?
turkus@reddit
This. This hubris is so fucking stupid, it's dangerously defeating the whole purpose of diplomatic and military readiness, deterrence. Instead of proving capabilities and new weapons platforms surely but discreetly, Turkish islamist govnt chooses to broadcast to the entire world, even before they are anywhere near ready, sending warning to the entire globe that they should take measures.
kapanakchi@reddit
Wherever you put it on the map would cause an issue with the country animation shows it lol. Just put a disclaimer on the video and be done with it.
dntcarelol09@reddit
bro stop crying
nefertum@reddit
Are there any test ? Are we sure it is working. I would never believe anything Turkish government announced before I see it really work as they claim.
Designer_Base_5350@reddit
Das Teil wurde gerade erst vorgestellt. Die Tests werden sicher bald folgen, oder waren geheim. Bei der MBR Tayfun sind sie auch nur zufällig in die Medien geraten. Es war gar nicht geplant die Tests zu zeigen.
HanDjole998@reddit
So they hit Atlantis?
Designer_Base_5350@reddit
Erst wollten sie Wakanda treffen, aber die haben halt Schutzschilde und Laserwaffen.
DarkWandererAmon@reddit
People actually think America will leave NATO? Neither the House nor the Senate allow that.
Not to mention Israel cannot wage open war against Turkey lol. Turkey ain't Iran or Lebanon
AlbaIulian@reddit
Yeah, it befuddles me too, this paranoia that somehow Turkey's going to be invaded based off... random bellicose statements made by random idiots during a period of sour diplomatic relations that also happens to coincide with pre-election season. Oh well. If Turks are that thin-skinned and insecure...
Designer_Base_5350@reddit
Bei den Israelis wäre ich vorsichtig. Die planen schon seit 20 Jahren, den Iran anzugreifen. Die anderen Präsidenten waren nur nicht so naiv wie Trump.
mercidionn@reddit
This is not propaganda. Israeli media are slandering Türkiye and portraying it as a threat in the process. Anti-Turkish rhetoric coincided with anti-Turkish rhetoric from Zionist senators. Negotiations for an alliance between Greece, Southern Cyprus, and Israel are ongoing. Greece is arming its islands and begging other countries to build up their forces. All this preparation is against the American navy and Israel. Europe doesn't have an army to fight.
AlbaIulian@reddit
Pot calling the kettle much?
Turkish media are slandering Israel and portraying it as a threat
anti-Israeli rhetoric at home and abroad
fearmongering about any hints of rapprochment between "rivals" regardless of actual threat or possibility (Greece's in NATO, the fuck would they do, and Cyprus? be real now)
Turkey is arming itself and begging other countries to take it seriously
Turkey has no leg to stand on. It's even more paranoiac than the Israeli far right and acts exactly like its "rival": accusing it of geopolitical duplicity in pushing its interests while having a history of doing exactly the same thing. All it's doing is projection. If Turkey had Israel's geopolitic liberty it'd act in the exact same manner.
To say nothing of how Turkey ends up validating Israel's fears in the process, and viceversa. It's a self-reinforcing cycle by now.
Whatever.
mercidionn@reddit
Dendias said in his latest speech, pointing at Turkey, that they will be strong against any attack coming from the Eastern Mediterranean. He is buying weapons from France and asking France to send troops to Greece. He is pleading for other countries to deploy troops to Southern Cyprus. He is defending a maritime claim that is unlawful. He has been drawing closer to Israel in a way that targets Turkey. He supports the Ecumenical status in Istanbul. Historically, Greece has often acted as the land force of other countries; this time, it will do so for Israel. You would have to be blind not to see this. Turkish media does not like Israel. Israeli media directly says that Turkey is the new Iran. Isn’t that enough? Don’t you know about the EOKA’s terrorism in Cyprus? Or are you the kind of dog who ignores genocides when they are committed against Turks? I can tell you this: if you commit genocide against Turks, Turkey will come overnight without warning.
AlbaIulian@reddit
So... average day in Greek politics.
Rearmament claims are dime-a-dozen nowadays. Tons of European countries are trying to rebuild their arms industries in light of the Russian invasion, and due to the idiot in the White House blowing up transatlantic relations and shattering the assumption that we'll have US backing. Especially countries on the Eastern flank like Greece are trying to hedge their bets. That's all this is.
Only according to Turkey. Most of the rest of the globe is a party to the UNCLOS, which Greece uses for its claim. Y'all are in the minority here. And this coming from a self-admitted skeptic of international law, mind you.
They are merely acting like you: pursuing their own interests. Which here would be "having enough of a force multiplier to keep Turkey out" and "gain access to an extra source of natural gas".
The what now? The Patriarchate you mean?
Wild leap of logic there. Then again, assuming Greece is merely a puppet instead of having its own agency and interests is conductive to this framing. But I'll say it again: Greece got no real reason to invade again, this is merely a historical ghost and grievance that neither side wants to lay to rest.
And why'd Bennett say this? A mix of pre-election rhetoric (where politicians have to look tough, especially Bennett, who is trying to lure disillusioned Likudniks to vote for him in October) and geopolitical realities like Turkey acting hostile. However, unlike Iran, Turkey isn't arming hostile terrorist groups, so this can be salvaged if either A) Turkey kicked Hamas' leadership out (ideally, cause fuck the bastards), or B) either Turkey or Israel shut up about each other for a bit, be it the politicos or the media - if the news cycle shuts up, things will ease somewhat and allow diplomats to soothe egos.
Both countries are just reacting to each other, feeding a self-reinforcing loop. Break it, and things will cool quickly.
... what? Wild assumptions to make, especially as I said nothing of the sort. It's a wild leap to go from "geopolitical disagreement" to "you support us being genocided", is it not?
mercidionn@reddit
I’m familiar with the usual pattern in Greek politics—politicians often try to win votes with anti-Turkish rhetoric as elections near. But this feels different; there seems to be a buildup.
I’m aware of the rearmament. Additional information: Turkey has been building up its military since 1974. Up until that time, Turkey’s emphasis on domestic production increased after it was abandoned by the U.S. in Cyprus. Nearly 20 years of preparation were made in order to carry out the landing operation.
Greece does not have a defense industry, and they cannot build one either. They lack the population. They lack the systems. The backbone of their economy is tourism. They receive substantial support from the European Union, which I have no issue with. However, while doing so, their very close relations with Israel and the fact that think-tank organizations target Turkey are significant. Dendias simply admitted it. He said, “We will attack from the Eastern Mediterranean, from the south, from everywhere.” So, which countries are present in that region? While doing this, they also continuously try to draw other countries into it and pursue an aggressive alliance against Turkey, led primarily by France.
Almost all countries are parties to UNCLOS. Under UNCLOS, countries’ territorial waters were extended to 12 miles. Turkey had previously made a mistake by accepting a 6-mile limit. If it were extended to 12 miles, a Turkish ship would not be able to travel from Istanbul to Antalya. As a precaution, in 1995 Turkey declared casus belli against Greece. Greece only understands strength; if we did not threaten them with war, they would try to defend the 12-mile claim more aggressively. Turkey did not tear up an existing agreement; it blocked one that did not exist.
I disagree with you on this issue. If they were acting in the country’s best interest, they would understand Greece’s limits of power and act accordingly. They are over-militarizing and harming their economy, but since they do not produce those weapons themselves, they would not be able to replace them in a war, meaning they would be defeated with the weapons they already have. I hope a war does not break out; I know that neither the Greek people nor the Turkish people want war.
An independent Orthodox structure in Istanbul, just like the Vatican.
Actually, I was making a historical reference here. The British started the war in France during World War II and used the French as a land army. At Gallipoli, they sent French ships to the front lines. In 1919, they used Greece as an army against the Turkish national movement. Of course, the Greeks also opportunistically jumped into an endeavor they could not handle. There were generals in the Greek army who were against this. Metaxas, who said, “You think they are dead, but they will rise in front of you,” was not listened to.
For example, there are statements attributed to the FBI director about the U.S. having created ISIS, but they are not taken seriously. Who armed whom is not really important. Iran, in pursuit of creating a Shia crescent in Syria, carried out numerous massacres and damaged its economy. Israel supported the PKK. There is not much difference. Both sides have carried out many terrorist attacks in Turkey. Especially in the 1990s, Iranian organizations were very active. Fortunately, we defeated them.
I understood that you were writing what you think rather than expressing emotion, but I realized you may not have actually seen the “Is TURKEY NEW IRAN?” headlines in the Israeli media.
While writing this, I mistakenly interpreted the illegality in maritime areas as Cyprus; that was my mistake. It was actually related to the Cyprus intervention. By the way, if Northern Cyprus falls, it could become a major weapons buildup area, and the American military would not hesitate to establish such a buildup. There is already a significant U.S. military buildup in Western Thrace at the moment. If we lose Northern Cyprus, we will not be able to sleep peacefully in Ankara, Istanbul, Antalya, Izmir, or Trabzon. Years before the island was taken, in the 1920s, Atatürk gathered our statesmen and said: “Gentlemen, pay attention to this island. All our supply routes pass through it.”
If we lose Cyprus, we would be surrounded from three sides. We have not lost a war for 100 years. If such a war were to break out, my personal concern is that the conflict with Israel would take the form of an air war. I am also worried that unless the Turkish flag were to fly in Tel Aviv, there could be a perception of defeat against Israel within the Turkish nation. I hope that the peace established in the Balkans after the Bosnian crisis continues.
DarkWandererAmon@reddit
As a Turk majority of ppl that believes this stuff are fed with Erdogans propaganda crap, I can assure you. Whenever election is close it's either Greece, Israel or America. Or "terrorist threat"
AlbaIulian@reddit
Sounds about right. sighhh
Narrow_Safety_957@reddit
Do I understand it right that this is just a random video?
If we believe videos like this, single Indian army officer can punch through a battalion of bad guys, catch the intercontinental missile, launch it back while collecting flowers for his girlfriend. And God forbid if his pants get dirty while he is doing that
Designer_Base_5350@reddit
Ist halt nur ne Animation.
BlokZNCR@reddit (OP)
that's not random but ICBM's official presentation animation.
apoprosanatolismos@reddit
It is certainly worrying news. A country like Turkey not only possessing but manufacturing such weapons is a global danger, much worse than Iran. Maybe someone would do well to set limits for them
Ujemegaz@reddit
No one is setting limits for Greece.
apoprosanatolismos@reddit
Greece does not develop powerful weapons nor does it threaten any country with them
Elmalukat@reddit
These Turkish mfs are just competing to themselves at the pace their defense industry is developing.
Congratulations Mehmets, a strong Turkey is the best deterrent to Netanyahi and Co
Inevitable-Ad2296@reddit
Actually, Turkey and Israel aren't enemies. Both are major U.S. allies in the region. The defense industry growth in Turkey is real, but geopolitically, they are much more interconnected than current headlines make it seem.
Additional-Penalty97@reddit
Last 4 years have showed that sensible approach to geopolitics does not work. Untill Iran was being bombed people argued that Israel and Iran are being rivals on purpose and would only fight via proxies to both their benefit. Nobody says that anymore.
It is for the best thateveryone be ready for the worst in the world we live in
Inevitable-Ad2296@reddit
Preparing for the worst is fair, but saying geopolitics doesn't work anymore ignores the broader U.S. strategy. The direct clashes between Israel and Iran are exactly why the U.S. needs both Turkey and Israel to be militarily strong. Washington ultimately wants them to serve as the twin pillars of regional security. Even if they have political friction now, they are both necessary counterweights to keep the region from completely boiling over.
Additional-Penalty97@reddit
The thing is that "Washington Strategy" does not always make sense these days and other players that influence US s actions can make them act irrationally. 2 years ago US was not at all disliked and its hegemony accepted among the wide Western World but now every single one of them tries to be independent. Just look how much EU fastened their project to be independent from the US they even began to make deals with China while US were invading countries and later bombing them to get oil (they have always been doing this but these days there isnt even the facade of democracy to it and nobody can even try legitimize it). In short that US strategy can be changed as they are not acting rationally. I am not saying it will change on this topic but that in order to not make it change we need ourselwes to be strong.
ElLoboTurco@reddit
unironically yes, the war israel started on iran showed that peace can only be achieved by superior firepower, otherwise be prepared to get bitch slapped
RiverSavings8203@reddit
It's weird that, militarization is encouraged to defend yourself from genocidal maniacs in this reality...
Outside_Resist_8319@reddit
Totally, like tripolitse genocide. https://belleten.gov.tr/tam-metin/2448/eng
ElLoboTurco@reddit
nothing new tbh, the romans back then knew "si vis pacem para bellum"
its dumb to waste money and ressources on weapons but thats human nature i guess
Due-Meaning-6760@reddit
The Romans also knew that if you had a powerful army you needed external enemies, otherwise they would turn on the internal enemies.
It's complicated actually,, powerful generals become leaders easily.
Total_Wrongdoer_1535@reddit
As a proud Zionist I couldn’t wait until I could pick a fight with the largest fucking army in NATO, probably the most technologically superior Muslim foe and likely the most important economy in the region. Damn shame they armed themselves. Was imagining myself enjoying all that packlava once we make Istanbul the proud capital of Israel.
cocoadusted@reddit
Who is Turkey trying to intimidate at this point? There’s very few countries that are difficult to use kinetic force against that can also fight major powers asymmetrically.
gk98s@reddit
This is mostly government propaganda and unless it gets cancelled there's at least 5-10 years until it becomes operational
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
Turkey has vacuum bombs, it is not very difficult to produce ballistics for a country that has thermobaric weapons. Considering we're producing ballistic missiles since 1980s.
Iapetus404@reddit
Greek artillery also has thermobaric weapons,white phosphorus munition....its cold war tech!
tolgapacaci@reddit
nationalist dont need anything to be satisfied. they are too far deep in the shit, they have to justify their commitment in their minds and cannot turn back. this leads to them to defend anything the government will ever do with mind gymnastics that use %110 of their processing power
mercidionn@reddit
Hmmm çözüm sürecini kim yapıyor
gk98s@reddit
Oh trust me this stuff actually works lmfao it's the same thing with TOGG they'll be talking about this stuff in 2028
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
Buddy it is a defense expo. How is showing weapons in a defense expo propaganda?
gk98s@reddit
You just repeated my point in that second part lol it is definitely not a final prototype and yes it's a nationalist propaganda tool if you know anything about Turkish politics that would have taken less than 5 seconds to realise after looking at this post
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
I didnt.
There is no information about the state of the missile.
"No further operational details were disclosed at the time of the unveiling."
https://www.turkiyetoday.com/nation/turkiye-unveils-first-ever-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-yildirimhan-3219431?s=1
Mind you, the turkish military already has stuff like Tayfun Block 1 with an operational range of up to 800 kms and its latest version Block 4 with an operational range of 1500 kms. They arent developing this shit from ground up. There is already experience.
It is still a defense expo. You cant go to a porn expo and complain about pornographic content. It might have the effect to appeal to nationalists, but you act like they arent developing any of this, which is simply not the case.
gk98s@reddit
1500 to 6000 is not as easy as it sounds lmfao and there's no info on the state of it because it's not even near production.
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
No shit sherlock?
The point however is that Turkey has experience in building hypersonic missiles and that we have no fucking clue about the state of Ylidirim. You are strawmaning over and over and over again.
For argument's sake, let's say it comes out in 5 years. Let's make it 10 years. Who fucking cares? Why does it matter? Why should they not announce that they are working on such a system? You are moaning for the sake of it.
They already produced a metric ton of shit they announced in advance. There is absolutely 0 reason to believe that this is where they lie. You just dont want this to happen, which is why you are coping this way.
gk98s@reddit
I'm just saying they're announcing it just for the nationalist vote, they did the same shit with TOGG and it turned out to be rubbish.
"you don't want this to happen"
I don't really care lol why wouldn't I want it to happen?
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
Yes buddy. Solely and only because of that. There is no larger military industrial development that is going on for the past 20 years.
TOGG is a really nice car. Just not for the average joe, due to its price. To label it "rubbish" speaks volume about your agenda here.
You tell me. Why is everything Turkey produces automatically only "rubbish" or "propaganda" and solely and only that?
eco_920@reddit
least greek opinion be like:
gk98s@reddit
I'm half Turkish btw and I was born and raised in Turkey but sure mate
SotovR@reddit
Kxrdish*
gk98s@reddit
I am not Kurdish no I'm half Greek
SotovR@reddit
even worse
gk98s@reddit
Imagine being racist tho lol
SotovR@reddit
your nationality is not a race?
gk98s@reddit
I'm literally ethnically half greek and half turkish I don't have Greek nationality tho?
morbihann@reddit
Defense expos are literally propaganda.
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
By that logic everything is. Government showed a new indigenous car?
"THIS IS DONE TO STATISFY THE NATIONALISTS!!!!!!"
Like bruh...
Proper_Club_4802@reddit
We literally had a local car made mostly for that reason and took long so yes you are actually right
blumonste@reddit
Who made it? Import everything and assemble cars that were designed by Italians. Another nothing burger.
Proper_Club_4802@reddit
Exactly.
eco_920@reddit
goycattle mentality
morbihann@reddit
Uhm, yeah. When the goal is to score some sort of political point, it is propaganda.
tatar1warlord@reddit
sihalar da propaganda degil mi anasin sktigim :D
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
And you smell that political point through your screen?
Dont show weapons on a defense expo, cause propaganda.
Dont show indigenous car, cause propaganda.
Might as well not advertize anything at all and just passively sit and do nothing.
TurkOmbre@reddit
I feel like anything related to Turkish success is propaganda, lol. I did a piece on the success of Turkish TV series and I was told it was thanks to state funding to spread propaganda, lol.
tolgapacaci@reddit
yeah. the indigenous car you are talking about have been used in so many political campaigns, its super disingenious. something like this has to be detached from politics and celebrate nationwide, not used as another polarizing tool.
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
Fam not everything that is being advertized is about propaganda for nationalists. There are monitary incenstives to advertize this type of shit.
Your average joe wont hear or care about a defense expo either.
tolgapacaci@reddit
average joe wont but they dont matter anyway, their vote is guaranteed. there are many expocuck engineering students posed in front of unmanned weapons of war that cling onto this narrative that at least we are producing weapons, which the opposition will ban and disband
blumonste@reddit
They sent an 'astronaut' (read a paying passenger) to the space before the last election. They have gen 5 Kaan but still begging to be reincluded in F35 project. It is sad that there are millions in Turkey who would consume this...
Ujemegaz@reddit
I don't think anyone but Americans have 5th generation jets. Now, Rusiians, French etc are calling them 4.5th generation. Same with Turkey.
blumonste@reddit
Yes, but even 4.5th is a fairy tale. I wish it was true.
blumonste@reddit
You know what? Why didn't they intercept the missiles reportedly sent from Iran and left the task to Americans in the Mediterranean if they had the intercontinental capability??? This is in line with finding huge oil and gas reserves in the Black Sea and Southeast Turkey before every election.
Razor_EDG@reddit
you know they are two different subject in the same area right? iran has intercontinental missles why arent they intercepting the missles from america and israel? and its what allies are for, if you are going to defend your country all alone why bother being in a military defensive pact.
and the source is the defense expo, not that it is any better but this isnt some rumors this is government declaration.
blumonste@reddit
Capabilities are interconnected. You you have the capability to send intercontinental missiles you are deemed to have the capability to stop short distance missiles. Where are you in the technology scale? If you are high up in the scale, stopping missiles coming from your neighbor should be no problem. Right?
And you believe it? This administration's credibility is 0, Z-E-R-O.
fulknerraIII@reddit
Nothing you said is correct.
Razor_EDG@reddit
no he has a point but just because you have knowledge about a topic you dont need to develop on it especially when you have allies to cover for you in that area
eco_920@reddit
goycattle detected
SotovR@reddit
What are you even on about?
chandlasia@reddit
show the whole world that we have teenagers who know nothing, who waste their brains on social media morning and night, and who think they have the right to comment on everything. acınasısın.
you cant criticize beneficial things just to look good to europeans.
blumonste@reddit
Asıl acınası sensin. Bir ağzınıza sıçmadıkları kaldı. Onu yapınca da nimet deyip yersiniz. Devam!
chandlasia@reddit
eleştirilecek şeyi gayette eleştiriyoruz sen o güzel kafanı yorma, buraya gelip de yabancılar bile laf etmezken kalkıp türk mühendislerinin kardeşlerimin emeklerini senin gibiler ağzına çorba edemez birader.
TheMidwinterFires@reddit
Brother is clueless
blumonste@reddit
Yes, you are.
Elmalukat@reddit
Just read 2-3 bloody paragraphs before commenting on anything.
This is not for Air Defense purposes where Turkey is not where it should be.
The black sea gas reserves are real, they are just not that huge to make a significant change.
Did you expect to become Iran in 2 years?
blumonste@reddit
Not me but you and people like you did. That is why you voted for the irreplaceable one. Get lost!
Elmalukat@reddit
I didn’t vote for him since I am not Turkish.
Your comment level is on par with Facebook uncles. You don’t even know what is A.D and what is not.
There are tons of topics where you can criticize the authorities and their incompetence, but saying why didn’t they shot down Irianian missiles with not in production ICBMs (which do not actually serve that purpose) is idiotic and smells low IQ
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
Iapetus404@reddit
lmao!
captaingrabma@reddit
I think the video is not really about what it is supposedly striking. I think they just tried to show how the ICBM would work. And they probably chose to animate the missles heading towards the atlantic, where there is no logal target there for Turkey. So before people start making up shit, calm down. Its just a demonstration video.
If the video would have showed the missles targeting Israel or Greece or anything like that. It would have been caused some controversy and it would be distracting from its purpose. Which is, selling this product to interested countries who are looking for ICBM's.
Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit
Congrats! Now start a nuclear program as well and wait for the US and Israel to attack you :p
EnesAkhan@reddit
Ohh bro i love the comments . So glad i droped by . i know its the usual debates but reading all these still makes me chuckle . Feel like watching a favorite film over nd over again nd still enjoying it 😅
tonybpx@reddit
What do you have against the polar bears?!
casual_philosopher02@reddit
Congratulations you just unlocked the: Turkey is a missile having threat achievement from Trump🤣
mercidionn@reddit
Do u really think its necessary
yns1899@reddit
Five years later, "Türkiye absolutely cannot produce nuclear missiles; they need to provide us with the components."
DriveByAtanCivciv@reddit
Area 51 i vurmuşuz, "eyy donald trump gel de ordularını kurtar."
Dependent_Guard903@reddit
Congrats on the achievement Turks, and the growing defense sector!! You deserve it!
enesg45@reddit
TSK'ya hayirli ugurlu olsun 😍
AlbaIulian@reddit
Ah yes, exactly how you show that you're not a loose cannon, by depicting yourself as one. What gall. Oh well. Perpetually insecure idiots will be perpetually insecure idiots.
Inevitable_Motor_685@reddit
Bruh why did they use that pic I'm crying
inki471@reddit
You better run Bermudans, we’re coming for you
BlokZNCR@reddit (OP)
just a ss from the video on the source link.
fk_censors@reddit
Putin is not happy. It's good for the Black Sea and it's good for humanity.
Plus-Gap1073@reddit
Interesting
Old_Resident8050@reddit
The more they arm , the bigger the target they paint themselves.
Ujemegaz@reddit
It is the other way around. The more they arm, the more they drive away their enemies.
Old_Resident8050@reddit
Check what happened with your neighbors. Ofc Israel wouldn't be able to do jack alone w/o the help of the US.
VatanKomurcu@reddit
Aw hell naw man wtf we doin get me outta here man
lilian_moraru@reddit
They are bombing US in the first image. You can see Florida and Mexico.
casastorta@reddit
But have you seen animations from North Korea?
theboltT@reddit
Amazing news for the friends , and very sad day for enemies 🚀
qTp_Meteor@reddit
The last couple of lines are illegible
EbanisKareem@reddit
nice. we can bomb greece fast and effectively
yns1899@reddit
We can't just bomb one for no reason.
EbanisKareem@reddit
Come on, they're Greek. Our neighbors. They wouldn't mind being bombed for no reason.
JaniFool@reddit
if Israel or the US wants to get your ass it should be your number 1 goal to get mutually assured destruction going on so your people don't get bombed ngl
Ujemegaz@reddit
RookOfEdo@reddit
OK lgbt