The Romanian government collapses after losing a no confidence vote. What does this mean for Romania, the rest of the Balkans, and the EU?

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Cryptographer-Wooden@reddit

since Romania decided to cancel its own elections and shut the word of the people, its no longer democracy, its nicusor dan autocracy, so i dont care what happens to it

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Usernamenotta@reddit

For Romania: It means we are economically and financially ducked.

For Balkans: If your currency is EURO, you might find some cheap travels to Romania in the following months.

For EU; nothing changes much

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Lotofagos_@reddit

financially ducked

how can i become a financial duck? 🦆

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lupulsur@reddit

exactly like this, but the opposite 🤪

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TovNicolaeCeausescu@reddit

well replace the "d" with and "f" and you'll see how "ducked" we are these days

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chbb@reddit

financially ducked

This is reddit, you can say "fucked" :)

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With or without Bolojan, we are still ducked. Nobody in the EU has a good life right now and in a few months we are very ducked because our friends from across the Atlantic thought it will be nice to screw us again. We don't need enemies when we have friends like the USA.

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Leather-Card-3000@reddit

We all know what it will mean for us, PNL doing a "compromise" to "save" this "country" alongside PSD in a "stable" coalition, what do you think else?

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Efficient-Magician63@reddit

Funny same thing happened in Bulgaria recently

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BurgurluGenc031@reddit

Some of our guys in internet was jokin saying 'Yo guys when u pray to god for something to happen... CLOSE THE GODDAMN VPN NEXT TİME. İT KEEP HAPPNEİNG İN OTHER PLACES '

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HotBoysenberry912@reddit

Fr

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Senior_Strawberry_51@reddit

Just please tell me AUR doesn’t have a chance of getting into power

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cryptme@reddit

They just got to the table. Until now they were outsiders. From now, they play is the big league, god save us.

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Senior_Strawberry_51@reddit

Fellow romanians, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE! I’m actually terrified of Simion, he looks like a psychopath.

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cryptme@reddit

The problem politically is very distant for the majority of the voters. They vote as if it for the favorite show or football club. No connection between the vote and the consequences. Unfortunately it will be very-very bad before it can get any better. Áradjon itt is!

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Firm-Juggernaut8002@reddit

In the USA it’s the same (if you couldn’t tell). I’m curious how much suffering is necessary to change this, in the USA it’s unclear if we will ever reach that threshold of suffering

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cryptme@reddit

I don’t think there is a limit. Just look at North Korea, sometimes even famine can’t trigger a regime change. It’s more about the context of the right type of leader and a critical mass. All the changes happen “around” somebody.

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Firm-Juggernaut8002@reddit

I agree, another example is the criminal Hoxha in Albania that made the place a 4th world country. Dies of old age

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Senior_Strawberry_51@reddit

You need a Peter Român

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gogur_@reddit

Petre Roman was actually the first prime minister of Romania in 1989

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JarofKompot@reddit

Romania is kinda fucked but i didn't use any lube yet and it's gonna hurt

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MinimumArt8781@reddit

It means we no longer have a government, it was expected that a coalition with the devil (PSD "Social Democrats") would never work.

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Bitedamnn@reddit

When will Romanians stop voting PSD

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MinimumArt8781@reddit

When the entire generation of those that lived under communism , dies!

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No-Championship-4632@reddit

Our PSD (BSP) is dead already. Didn't make it to the parliament.

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MinimumArt8781@reddit

Ours isn't, because they pretended to be loyal "pro-europeans"

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No-Championship-4632@reddit

Ours went all-in Putin with right-wing policies at some point, guess that's why fell out I guess.

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MartinBP@reddit

The only right-wing policy they had was the flat tax rate which was introduced when they still declared themselves openly pro-EU and Europe was still doing business with Russia.

They've been completely consistent with the eastern left-wing since then. LGBTQ issues don't determine whether you're left-wing, most left-wing parties globally are identical to BSP and PSD.

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No-Championship-4632@reddit

If you have a look at the program they had prior to the 2024 elections (when they formed a coallition with centre-right GERB), they had:

* Tax reforms, introducing progressive taxation -no changes, the flat income/corporate tax remained

* Healthcare - they wanted increased healthcare budget to cover for complete coverage of medications of people 0-16 and 75+ by the НЗОК. They also wanted a heavier regulation on opening new private hospitals and wanted a reform where government/municipal hospitals are not registered as companies anymore. None of that happened as well, they soon forgot about it.

* Social policy - the same amount of payment for young mothers for the first and the optional second year. Increase of the one-time payments for parents. Soon forgot about that, none of that happened too.

* Economy - they were raving about price ceiling for basic goods. Immediately forgot about that once in power despite the mad inflation at the time.

This is a pattern they follow every time they cling to power. Even funnier is they have (had) a significant representation of those Plovdiv "socialists" around the oligarch Gergov who is trying to privatize stuff like the Plovdiv fair. They never even claimed a position on that issue unlike (weird enough) PPDB for example.

Being conservative rather than liberal or being Putin bootlickers is nothing compared to the listed above, they are a quasi-left party, their marketing is left, but they are actually right.

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AndryCake@reddit

Don't worry, then they will vote AUR.

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MinimumArt8781@reddit

No, stupid people will vote AUR, the old communists still vote for PSD, it's literally in every single electoral statistics

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AndryCake@reddit

Yeah I don't disagree with that. I just wanted to clarify that if people stop voting for PSD things won't automatically get better (arguably they could get worse since at least PSD isn't anti-EU).

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MinimumArt8781@reddit

Are you sure about that? I'm not even sure what is worse between the two, these corrupt imbeciles or those psychotic extremist rats

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FakeGreatness@reddit

They're both as evil.

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AndryCake@reddit

I mean you can never be sure with these people...

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darkname324@reddit

this wont solve anything, until tiktok exists, and uneducated people who can be manipulated, aur and psd will continue to destroy every progress

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demanemotus@reddit

We're already starting to drop the votes for PSD. PSD dropped from the 1st to the 4th place in the polls.

We've started voting the far-right AUR which is made mostly by PSD ex members and which positioned themselves as "anti-system" (complete lie).

The government collapsed with the efforts of both PSD and AUR though.

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Thrilalia@reddit

Damn, that sounds like Reform in the UK. Claims Anti-system, is far-right, blames a lot of the problems on the Tory government (ok this part is true), yet is mostly made up of former Tory MPs, some of which were in the major cabinet positions of power while in the Tory party

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Potential-Wish8608@reddit

All these far right political parties are identical. Same “ideology”, same bullshit “sovereignty”, same conspiracy theories, same lies, same sources of funding….it’s such a coincidence

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MartinBP@reddit

Well no. The ones in Western Europe are usually economical right-wing. The ones in Eastern Europe are usually economically left-wing.

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hrafnagudr@reddit

What ia the parlament configuration?

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demanemotus@reddit

Întrebi care e structura Parlamentului (Senat, camera deputaților, membrii etc) sau câte mandate are fiecare partid?

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hrafnagudr@reddit

I'm trying to (subtly) point out that PSD still has the most seats in both Rooms of Parliament. Yes they are tanking in general polls, but when it comes to parliamentary elections they end up in first place. We all know that people tend to brush aside the parliamentary elections, yet we have this child-like perception that shit will change because of who is president.

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Dear-Ad1582@reddit

They are getting less and less votes with each cycle... Bad news is that the idiots voting them went for AUR oportunist.

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Dear-Ad1582@reddit

Nevaaaaaaaa'!!!

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SkirtProfessional845@reddit

when our whole country will get educated besides Cluj Napoca and Bucharest. until then, people will still vote the same characters.

most of the romanians dont even know that the parliament holds most of the power. they are thinking that the presidents holds it.

education budget has been cut severely. so probably never.

as of now only thing that will change something in the country will be the federalization of Europe

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Substantial_Lie1798@reddit

The rats coalition

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Ujemegaz@reddit

We have a givernment with extended majority, and we suck. Better not have a government at all, i think.

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Dear-Ad1582@reddit

Ah... The Belgian way...

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MartinBP@reddit

*Bulgarian way

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blewpblewps@reddit

Curious, is a Bulgarian scenario possible in Romania? Like what we had for the last few years - elections every few months?

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Dear-Ad1582@reddit

Nope. We can't have early elections unless special conditions occurs. New PM proposal by President don't get confidence vote in parliament 2 times, then he will call early election.. And none of the parliament grifters will do that since they have no confidence they will be on the candidates lists. Or they will all resign at once and hope to get elected..

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MartinBP@reddit

I mean, technically same thing with us. Once one government falls, the party gets another mandate to form a new cabinet. If that fails, the next biggest party gets it. If they fail, a third one gets it, and if the also fail (basically guaranteed), we go to elections.

This process failed 7 times in a row (the first one didn't count because it was a regular election, not a snap one).

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PsychologicalAir7850@reddit

It means that PSD controls everything and nothing will ever be reformed. Rampant corruption as usual from now on.
So there is absolutely no hope for us to ever have a decent standard of living.

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ModeloTime69@reddit

It's sad that i keep hearing similar stuff from everbody else these days(Turks, Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Russians, Serbs... ). Still hoping for a better future for the young people though :/

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Valik93@reddit

Young people don't vote. Young people don't vote. Young people don't vote.

They also don't care and would rather gtfo to another european country.

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MartinBP@reddit

Young people had a higher turnout than the general population in Bulgaria's 2024 elections (no data on the last ones). Bulgarian youth were also instrumental in toppling our last government.

Means fuck all when young people are 12% of the population while pensioners are over 30%.

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oyMarcel@reddit

So more of the same?

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asidealex@reddit

It means the chances of an extremist government have grown. The President won't name an extremist Prime Minister, but his popularity sank dramatically after he signed all proposals for the next Chiefs of the highest law enforcement agencies just recently. His chances of not surviving a popular vote grew.

So potentially, under certain circumstances, EU might find itself with a new pro Russian far right extremist government that vetoes upcoming EU policy.

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Maczok4@reddit

Could you explain what happened? I thought that Nicusor Dan was meant to save Romania after fighting with corruption in Bucharest. I didn't know that there were some problems with him.

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FakeGreatness@reddit

Nicusor played too much of a political game instead of the populist game and now it backfires. All the decisions he had made directly impacted his popularity. Let us not forget that the “pro european” side does not have an idol of any sort compared to the russian side so because of that people are more critical of their leaders. Nicusor fumbled, now in the pro european side people started believing that he’s ok with the gov shutdown because he feared the PM was getting more popular than him but i don’t think that’s true.

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FakeGreatness@reddit

I mean that's Russia's plan, replace the puppet with another puppet. Too bad it's us this time. Let's all wecome the dark ages.

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fatgirlcuddler@reddit

whole of romanian reddit just fuckin exploded dawg there are oceans of blood dawg the danube is fuckin backin up dawg

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Adept-One-4632@reddit

It means more depression

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positive-Radish-69@reddit

It means that the red mafia (PSD) will take back more power than ever, either with their mates (PNL) or their more extremist mates (AUR).

And if the same number of idiots continue to vote with the extremist mates, prepare for a wave of Romanians seeking a normal life in your beautiful countries.

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Usernamenotta@reddit

Nah. I doubt they are shittier

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Natopor@reddit

Romania has fallen

Billions must be robbed

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Positive_Capy_1941@reddit

Ye, lessgooooooooo /s

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GeneralPattonYo@reddit

Nothing everything gets back to normal.