Newbie looking for advice...
Posted by ScarlettTrinity@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 21 comments
This is going to be one of those explain it to me like I'm 5 posts... So, apologies ahead of time for the exposition...
I'm exploring the idea of getting an ebike. My neighborhood is super convenient but there are a few things about 3-6 miles away I'd like to bike to instead of wasting gas in my car. I'm at the point where I'm not sure if I like the idea more or if I will actually use a bike and would love some insight. I had a regular pedal bike at my mom's, tires went flat, hardly ever rode it, etc. I don't want to spend money on something to repeat the same thing.
I live in an apartment so, I initially thought I wanted something that folded down and I could keep it on my patio and out of the way. I did discover 1 or 2 ebikes on the communal bikes racks at my complex so, I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility to keep a full sized one there. We've had people steal bikes in the past so that is a minor concern.
I tried 3 bikes today; Urtopia Carbon Fold Step Through, Lectric XP4 Step Thru, and the Segway Muxi. Out of all three, I liked the Muxi the best. My legs felt well positioned, I felt safe, and I like the features it has. I have a knee that gets cranky and I think the Lectric was too upright for me (I felt like I was leaving my feet behind me when I pedaled) and the Urtopia didn't feel super safe. I want something on the lighter side but something I can put a box on if I need to go a few miles to the post office.
Here's what I'm wondering...
- if you were unsure, what made you commit to using it and are you happy with it?
- does removing the battery make an ebike less likely to be stolen?
- what other bike brands/style would you recommend for someone with a sometimes cranky knee? I'm looking at Electra, Aventon, Pedgo, Velotric, Rad Power, Flyer, and more.
- what brands are most trusted? which should be avoided?
- is it worth buying new or would it be ok to get something lightly used off Facebook Marketplace? I'm not looking to spend over $2.5k. Ideally, less than $2k all in.
- what else should I consider that I might not have thought about?
Thanks!
_Cerebral_Musings@reddit
Seems like you already know the ebike you want. Does taking the battery make it less likely to be stolen? Not necessarily, but it's better to take it. New vs used depends on if you value warranty vs value. If I was new to ebikes I might buy new , but not again after that.
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
Well, between those three I do but there's other brands I've yet to try. Thanks for the input!
_Cerebral_Musings@reddit
Np
00_coeval_halos@reddit
It looks like you selected a very good e-bike. You rode it and you liked it. Then get it. Now that that’s done.
Lock: the Segaway has some very good security features such as locking out the power, password lockout, and FindMy built in. However, any thief with a pickup truck or van can pick the bike up and toss it in the vehicle. Even if the bike is a brick they can part it out.
So now you go out and buy even a $100 lock. Out thief with the pickup/van rolls up to the like rack with your e-bike locked to it. He gets out and the tool he had isn’t a hacksaw or a bolt-cutter in our world today. The guy has a DEWALT 20V MAX Angle Grinder Cordless Brushless, 4 1/2 Inch and it cost $150 USD.
The current state of the art cutting disc are 3M Cubitron 3 Fibre Disc 1187C, 36+, 4-1/2 in x 7/8 in, Longer Life, Medium and High-Pressure Applications, Stainless Steel, Heat-Sensitive Metal Substrates. The cost for a package of 25 discs is $150 USD.
The combination of angle grinder, battery and cutting disc will go through a $100 lock system is…10 seconds. Then the bike goes in the pickup/van and gone.
Angle grinders are so efficient, even if you had the perfect lock solution you need to consider the construction of the thing you lock up on. It might be faster to cut the bike rack you locked to than the lock itself. Lock to a wooden post, gone.
There are angle grinder resistant locks but they are not $100. They are $300 to $400. They offer minutes of resistance and will eat multiple blades. The hope is the pass your lock and take the bike using the $100 lock because it only takes 10 seconds.
Here is a YouTube video giving you an overview of the problem. These guys are not selling anything in it rather, they are highlighting the problem.
YouTube: The Unfortunate Truth About Bike Locks
Good Luck!
00_coeval_halos@reddit
If you liked the Segway, then that’s the bike to get. You rose it
krissym72@reddit
You’re actually in a really good spot because you’ve already test ridden a few - that’s what usually gets people from “idea” to actually using one.
If a bike felt safe, comfortable, and natural like you said about the Segway, that matters more than almost anything else. Fit is what determines whether it becomes something you ride all the time or something that sits.
On the “will I actually use it” question, most people who stick with it treat it like a replacement for short car trips, not something they “should” do for exercise. Your 3–6 mile errands are pretty much perfect for an e-bike, that’s where they really shine.
On theft, the advice you got is pretty solid. Taking the battery out doesn’t really stop someone from stealing the bike, it just prevents the battery from getting stolen. What helps more is making your bike the harder target with a good U-lock, ideally a second lock or cable, and just making it look like more effort than the one next to it. Being on an upper level patio definitely helps, I’d still lock it though.
For your knee, what you noticed is important. That “feet behind you” feeling usually comes from the bike’s geometry. You’ll likely be more comfortable on a step-through with a slightly forward riding position, not super upright like a cruiser but not aggressive either. Aventon and Velotric tend to hit that middle ground well. Electra can be very comfortable but the pedal-forward style isn’t for everyone. Pedego is very comfort-focused but usually more expensive. The fact that the Segway felt right is a big signal though, I wouldn’t ignore that.
On brands, I’d think of it like this. Aventon, Velotric, Trek, Specialized, and Cannondale are generally safe bets. Lectric, Ride1Up, and Segway are solid budget-friendly options. I’d be more cautious with random no-name brands because parts and support can be an issue later. I wouldn’t worry too much about the “Rad is dead” comment, that’s a bit exaggerated, the bigger thing is just making sure parts and support are available.
For new vs used, used can be a great deal but the battery is the biggest unknown. If you’re new and don’t want to deal with diagnosing issues, new is less stressful. If you go used, try to stick with something 1–2 years old and test the range if you can. One thing that was good advice in the replies is that some shops won’t work on bikes they didn’t sell, so it’s worth checking local shops first.
A couple things people don’t always think about are the weight of the bike, which matters a lot for apartment living, how easy it is to bring inside if needed, and making sure it has a rack or can take one if you plan to carry stuff. Also worth looking for a UL-listed battery for peace of mind in an apartment.
Honestly though, based on what you said, you’re already narrowing it down the right way. If a bike felt safe and comfortable and you can picture yourself actually using it for those short trips, that’s usually the one people end up happiest with.
Relative-Display-676@reddit
anything left out on the ground level will get stolen, it's not a matter of if but when. so consider getting a bike that's light weight so you can remove from ground level. urtopia is 30ish pounds while segway is 70ish, that'll make a big difference when moving it up and down the stairs or in elevator.
avoid rad power ebikes as they're a dead brand with fire hazard batteries. look into stealth bikes that look like regular bikes but have electric components to them. something like velotric t1 st, aventon soltera 3 or superhuman babymaker. they are light weight and draw less attention as they don't look like ebikes.
most trusted brands are bike brands like trek, specialized, cannondale, etc as they can be serviced by any bike shop. if you go with online brand like aventon, velotric, segway or lectric you'll have harder time finding service shop to work on them. avoid any brand that you either can't service yourself or local shops won't work on.
buying used is a good way to save money, especially from a major ebike site like upway. facebook can be sketchy as you don't know the condition of bike or if it has been stolen.
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
Thanks for your detailed reply! I'm up a few floors so it's not like people could walk it of my patio. I wanted to like the Urtopia but I didn't really feel safe on it. Nice to know about Rad, I'll take them off my list. It looks like different stores in my area carry different brands or different model of brands. There's one Cannondale that made my list. I haven't seen anything from Specialized. There's a super pretty and super cheap Electra Townie Go but I don't know if the geometry works for me. Thanks again!
Open_Geologist_42@reddit
Hi.. thought of pasting the entire post into chatgpt ? Try that...
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
Chstgpt can make mistakes and I'd rather ask real people
Mildew88@reddit
I would recommend the Velotric Discover 3 (750 watt motor). If you want to have a lightweight ebike, the Velotric Tempo (350 watt motor) with the optional add-ons that includes a rear rack. Another option is the Velotric Fold 1 Plus which has 20-inch tires. I own the Discover 3 and the Fold 1 Plus and I have ridden the Tempo. Let me know if you have any questions! Here's my Discover 3.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
Full stop. That's the bike you want. Fit above all else.
Lord_EssTea@reddit
FB marketplace can be great if you find a 1-2 year old bike with very few mileage. The classic : I bought it and didn't use it. By being only 1-2 years, you reduce the odds of someone trashing the battery multiple winters.
I wouldn't dabble in older bikes, as the battery becomes a gamble.
Some folks are very honest and you can agree with them to bring the bike back in less than a week if you find out the battery has problems.
The thing with marketplace is that it's way less conveninent, which could make you do an impulsive buy. Take your time.
OnlyRuss@reddit
Regarding theft, my general rule of thumb is that thieves are looking for the quick and convenient. If a person wants to steal YOUR bike, they’re going to steal it. But if they want to steal A bike and yours is at the rack with two locks and visibly no battery in it and there’s another bike next to it with one lock, they’re probably going to take that one.
I’d still get insurance for it specifically, though. And probably find a place to hide and AirTag.
Regarding where to purchase, if you can, I recommend an actual shop. More and more shops are saying they’ll only service the bikes they sell and I don’t want to cut myself off of technical support to save a few bucks. I don’t trust myself with the intricacies of a lot of the nicer e-bikes.
Balangoda@reddit
I wouldn’t have great advice but definitely buy through a shop as most will service the bike as well as handle everything under warranty. No Facebook marketplace. Also if anyone really wants to steal a bike nowadays it’s no problem, removable battery or not. Look into insurances. As far as brands do a lot of research into them and look for UL certifications for protection of fires. You’ll definitely want this for apartment living
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
Great! There are some really great deals on Marketplace but I get that you don't really know what you're getting. But honestly it's cheaper to do that and take it somewhere for a once over versus getting a new bike. It looks like I'll have to hop around to different shops to try various bikes. I haven't seen anything for UL certs but I haven't been looking. I like that the Segway seems to have options for locating your bike. Same with Aventon.
Balangoda@reddit
You’re correct, who knows what you’re getting. But about taking it somewhere, most shops won’t service an unfamiliar bike since it creates risks for themselves. So basically if you buy bike off of someone you should be competent in repairing and servicing it yourself, replacing any necessary components, inspecting the frame, etc.
HistorianAlert9986@reddit
Don’t leave the bike outside overnight unless it’s insured. Taking the battery out won’t deter a thief.
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
I was going to leave it on my patio and I'm up a few levels so, it's not like they can walk it off. Are there any kind of special locks that make them more difficult to steal? Do all bikes have a removable battery?
HistorianAlert9986@reddit
Most have removable batteries, but I don’t think you would need to take it out if it’s on your porch. Good luck are expensive but if you’ve got a budget like any U lock that’s over 100 bucks should suffice.
ScarlettTrinity@reddit (OP)
Thanks!