Global climate swings into alarming turmoil | "The worst annual toll since records began in 2008"
Posted by Acrobatic-Lynx-5018@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 26 comments
Published today on Futura, the following article concerns the growing instability of the global climate.
Collapse related because of this:
"Global warming continues relentlessly, exactly as scientists have predicted since the 1980s. Millions of people are facing ever-greater consequences."
And this:
"We do have solutions, but what stands in our way are disinformation campaigns and the lobbying power of the fossil fuel industry."
Even if you are philosophically and technologically and scientifically correct - you are still up against forces you cannot possibly fight. Unless you're a billionaire, but in that case - why would you even care?
DreadPirateReddas@reddit
"Since records began in 2008"? What records is this referring to? Cause climate records definitely began a bit before that...
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Yeah, I saw that too.
Like, what are they talking about?
Bandits101@reddit
"We do have solutions, but what stands in our way are disinformation campaigns and the lobbying power of the fossil fuel industry."……..
What a lot of BS. WE KNOW there are no “solutions” but there is always someone or something to blame. Capitalism, boomers, billionaires, the “elite”, politicians and/or “the fossil fuel industry”.
Just own it, like what should have happened a century ago, instead we chose to believe the hopium pundits that said “getting off FF’s” is all that’s required.
So the BS was believed and the burning continued because one day the “transition” will magically take place and Nirvana will be our reward.
Comfortably-Numb2026@reddit
Agree 100 percent.
I see it everyday on this sub: “the billionaires did this to us.”
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Because. They. Did.
Rare_Fly_4840@reddit
Because it is billionaires. This is a fact. Just 57 companies produce 80% of global industrial greenhouse gas emissions. These companies and the people running them have names and addresses. Saudi Aramco, Gazprom, ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, and Shell are responsible but they make it about regular folks recycling and having to use a disguishing straw that turns to mush in your mouth.
Comfortably-Numb2026@reddit
And it’s 3 to 4 billion people driving cars, taking flights, cooking, using plastic, building with cement and steel. It’s our entire carbon centric world. and hundreds of millions work for these companies and own shares in them.
It’s just too simplistic too blame it on the billionaires.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Nice "Yet you participate in society. Curious! I am very intelligent," vibe.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
WHOCOULDAKNOWED?!
dazzlingshining@reddit
The solutions exist. The will doesn't. And the will is owned by the people who profit from the problem. That's not pessimism, that's just reading the org chart.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
What solutions? How would we refreeze the Arctic, Antarctica, glaciers.. you know, our air conditioners. And ocean acidification, and micro plastics.. please, I'd like to hear. Ty.
Bandits101@reddit
Yes what solution sucks out and sequesters GHG’s, what method stops the millions of atomic bombs equivalent of excess heat warming the oceans, what stops the hundreds of billions of annual ice melt.
“The solutions exist”, people must just believe some random internet persons saying the solution is “renewables”, “EV’s”, “plant trees”, “become vegetarian”. They read each “solution” and their confirmation bias takes over.
Schmoeker@reddit
Serious degrowth beginning in the early 80s with a set goal of not emmitting any green house gasses by beginning of the year 2000. Ban everything modern for all humanity. No personal profit or wealth allowed. With a short transitioning period while keeping science alive and everybody on board and happy. We would also have to agree on no wars going forward, probably no religion or nations either.
unbreakablekango@reddit
Without a top predator, a species limits to population growth are controlled by environmental factors. We are organisms and thus, we are subject to the rules of biology. We can either try to make our own rules or we can just let our environment enforce the rules for us.
Bandits101@reddit
Population control would have been a prime requisite, impossible to achieve anything worthwhile without it. Even then no guarantees, we have no idea on climate sensitivity.
Damning positive feedbacks could have been set in motion 30 years ago, even now we’re experiencing a decade or two of climate lag.
PibeauTheConqueror@reddit
The top 10% consume 50% of all resources. Its a distribution issue, and overconsumption by the wealthiest few.
JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit
But they need the poor masses to extract and process it all. They can’t do that by themselves.
stephenclarkg@reddit
Solution is too consume less and start massive food and water banks so we can minimize the death and suffering. Also engineer permaculture for the new environment. Obviously many will still die but it would minimize damage
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
No, it's beyond this. We needed to have done this in the 80's or earlier.
stephenclarkg@reddit
For sure, then we could have actually had a positive outcome. Now we can only have a less horrific outcome, but thats still worth alot
03263@reddit
Humans do not seem capable of such cooperation. Instead the opposite is happening, consumption and greed are growing by leaps and bounds.
stephenclarkg@reddit
We're definitely capable of the cooperation, we're very bad at stopping evil people though. I'd estimate like a 20% success rate across history and much lower past ~60 years
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
Yes. That's why I always ask those specific questions. No answer so far.
HommeMusical@reddit
Look at how Britain totally changed its society in World War 2 to deal with rationing. Instituting rationing for kids actually eliminated a great deal of diseases of malnutrition, because everyone got the right food and no more.
If when we first realized we were in a crisis situation, say in 1980, the whole world had moved onto a war footing where the enemy was the climate crisis and the end of our ecosystem, things would be dramatically different now.
But counterfactuals have little value. And this would never, ever have happened, barring some major religious movement. It's not just that the rich would be against it, but it would have cut into people's "standard of living" - no one was going to give up their meat and their fast cars just to prevent the destruction of our ecosystem fifty years in the future.
nothankeww@reddit
weeeeeee!!!! It’s party time
Democrat_maui@reddit