Who have you met that instantly gave you an instinct that something was seriously wrong with them?

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MojoMomma76@reddit

I worked in forensic mental health for a while and learned super quickly to go with my gut instinct with people as it was rarely wrong. There were people who had done terrible things when very unwell but when treated were decent people who suffered a lot with the knowledge of what they had done. There was a much smaller group of people who delighted in what they had done and were trying to work the system to become free and who seriously scared me. For those clients we worked in pairs and were highly trained in situational awareness. A couple of them seriously creeped me out and was unsurprised to hear they had reoffended within weeks of release in both circumstances.

Your gut is telling you all sorts of indicators from micro expressions to other small signs. Listen to it.

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onmylunchbreak_@reddit (OP)

This is really interesting, could you please expand upon a couple of examples?

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MojoMomma76@reddit

I’m really wary of breaking confidentiality. One example I feel ok to share (because sadly it’s common, and even if you checked my post history enough to work out who I am and cross checked on LinkedIn, I’m confident this cannot be linked to me is this one).

A guy was a family annhilator - ie killed his wife and all his children (leaving number unnamed). He went to a psychiatric hospital for a long long time. Got sent to my charity that ran rehab/readjustment services in supported housing for a long while until he got clearance to be fully released. He had attacked staff in the secure hospital and again when in a less secure unit in the north of my city before coming to us. We were running a somewhat experimental DSPD unit at the time. He was on his best behaviour for the three years he was with us but I knew he was not rehabilitated in the slightest. I flagged with his psychiatrist but told I was acting ‘on vibes’ and no action taken.

He killed a random stranger three weeks after being moved into independent accommodation.

I’ve never hated more being right.

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Bigallround@reddit

We need to drop this idea that anyone can be rehabilitated. It's a waste of money, time, resources and a danger to the public. If you kill you wife and kids you should be chucked into a human sized blender at the earliest possible opportunity.

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Eugenes_Axe@reddit

There were people who had done terrible things when very unwell but when treated were decent people who suffered a lot with the knowledge of what they had done.

You just skipped right over this part then I assume?

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SeahorseDada@reddit

What makes you think they skipped over that part? Both things can be true. I'm very in favour of rehabilitation when it comes to people who feel remorse and desperately want to do better, but I don't believe everyone can be rehabilitated. For example I think someone who takes pleasure in killing their entire family and feels no remorse will always be a danger to society and therefore society should be protected from them.

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No_Ring_3348@reddit

What a terrible waste of blood and organs, for shame!

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Bigallround@reddit

Who says it's going to waste? You could feed plenty with a 40l smoothie

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Budget_Dot694@reddit

Did you have this same gut feeling/knowing across the entire 3 years?

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78Anonymous@reddit

they might have been vague on purpose because of potential triggering and unwillingness to revisit experiences

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MrTripperSnipper@reddit

My sister's new best friend. This was years ago. She gave me instant bad vibes, really strong ones, but I felt like my sister was a great judge of character, so I ignored it. Fast forward a few years, she'd basically destroyed our entire friendship group and this might sound a bit bitter but she basically brainwashed my sister into leaving her husband and my girlfriend into leaving me and nearly stole my brother from his girlfriend.

It turns out this is her thing, she moves from one friend group to another and just destroys them with lies and manipulation, usually while trying to fuck as many of her "friends" partners as possible in the process.

My ex was under her spell for another 3 years or so before finally realising that everyone she'd been turned against were the good guys.

NGL, it's given me pretty bad trust issues.

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

Jfc. This is awful.

What an awful human. Not surprised you don't trust many.

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MrTripperSnipper@reddit

Yeah she was/is genuinely evil/broken. A couple of years ago, I saw her in a photo my mate put on FB. I'm 100% not the type of person to ever tell anyone what to do or who to associate with, but I had to ring him and warn him about her. A couple of months later he told me I was right about her all along and luckily his mates had all cottoned on before she could weave her web of lies. I'm quite proud that I decided to step in.

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soverytiiiired@reddit

My friend group encountered someone like this about five years ago. We had been a group for about ten years with no drama and when she joined people started arguing and falling out. It was very slow and gradual, but one by one people started saying “Something isn’t right about that girl” and when enough of us stopped being around her things went back to normal.

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MrTripperSnipper@reddit

Was her name Chloe?

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onionsofwar@reddit

Any other ND people reading these and thinking ah shit, people are going to think I'm a murderer because I'm weird?

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

But also some of us ND's can often have Spidey senses for the psychos...micro behaviours and just that something is 'off'. As a child, I wouldn't watch 'Jim'll Fix It' as Savile creeped me out...as an adult I don't like Walliams either.

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onionsofwar@reddit

That's definitely true. Call it hypersensitivity to avoid rejection or bullying but sometimes those keen eyes see through façades quite well.

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nogeologyhere@reddit

It's proven that autistic people in particular give neurotypical people icky vibes almost immediately, and that this is a major reason why so many autistic people are depressed and isolated - we are treated badly based on vibes, and can't do much about it.

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ddmf@reddit

Thin slice judgements, it's awful.

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ddmf@reddit

Doesn't help that some people seem to be able to detect us via thin slice judgements - probably explains why we seem to be more likely to get bullied.

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TheOnlyNadCha@reddit

I think it’s a different feeling, some people can be a little awkward (sometimes related to ND) or have unusual quirks, but it doesn’t make me feel a deep sense of fear or wariness. It’s more a case of your brain sensing danger specifically (not just “unusual” behavior), from signs you may or may not have consciously noticed.

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ClarifyingMe@reddit

You say this but yet there's stories of autistic people in prison for things they didn't do because arm chair psychiatrists went off "vibes" instead of evidence and facts.

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onionsofwar@reddit

Absolutely. Judges and juries not aware of their own biased and unfair expectations. Even before you think about how ND look in a courtroom, anyone who doesn't fit the bill of 'looking innocent' can get a much worse deal. It's all about performing at the end of the day, which some people just don't do.

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TheOnlyNadCha@reddit

That is terrible, and I have no doubt this happened (and probably still does). Putting aside the obvious failure of the justice system, who shouldn’t sentence based on vibes, I don’t think I am an outlier when it comes to the perception of neurodivergence where I live.

ND awareness is trending up, and that’s a good thing! I imagine 20 years ago people were more likely to classify unusual behaviour as potentially dangerous because they did not know about or understand autism at all.

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worotan@reddit

But then, people read threads like this, want to be involved and experience having a spooky intuition that shows they’re incredibly perceptive, and find people to try it out on.

Or they just like gossip, and will find reasons to talk others down.

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onionsofwar@reddit

Phew, I hope so. I spend a lot of mental effort trying to humanise my cold-seeming exterior.

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NoAimElaine@reddit

I've met many people I get weird vibes from, but it's no big deal. I've only met one that disturbed me to my core. It's a very different feeling, so don't worry!

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CuppaT87@reddit

My sister's first husband. Even when I was a little kid, something about him always made me feel really uneasy & scared to be around him.

Later transpired that he had been smacking my sister about. Also found out that the kittens that their cat had given birth to- he killed all of them apart from one.

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Box_of_rodents@reddit

Childhood , school bully in Zimbabwe where I grew up, a seriously cruel and dangerous kid (in the 1970’s and early 80’s). I was originally friends with him until my parents banned him from our house and from me having anything to do with him.

I was actually relieved because even as a kid, I knew he was a ‘wrongun’ and was never really comfortable being around him but as a kid that gets drowned out by peer pressure and whatnot.

Numerous accusations of arson, setting fire to fields, making bombs (viable explosives using brake fluid and another key component that I won’t mention, learned from older siblings who had served in the military) that resulted in another kid losing his eye and damage to other kid’s homes, often suspended from school for bad behaviour. Was regularly beaten by the head master ( 6 of the best on the arse with a rattan cane).

I learned a while ago that as an adult he had been in and out of prison for fraud and was currently serving a lengthy prison sentence for attempted murder and one other count of manslaughter in Zimbabwe’s notorious maximum security prison called Chikarubi Prison.

Proper head case who will likely die in prison.

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onmylunchbreak_@reddit (OP)

Wow, I’m glad your parents were present enough to notice the warning signs and save you from that. Thank you for sharing!

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Box_of_rodents@reddit

Yes, absolutely. I was given a severe dressing down by my Dad at the time after the headmaster contacted him about his concerns about me ‘hanging around’ with this guy and had educated him about what had been going on.

I was relieved as I mentioned but became the focus of his abuse. I did stand up to him, which resulted in fisticuffs. I got smacked around a bit as he was a bigger boy, cut lip and black eye if I remember but got one or 2 blows in. He left me alone after that. I freaking hate bullies to this day and will always try and stand up for myself or those weaker. Something I have instilled into my grown up kids today.

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LikwitFusion@reddit

I managed a bunch of professional kitchens. Had a new Kitchen Porter turn up. On approach I reached out for a handshake and he said he doesn't like to touch people. I thought that's fair enough as many people don't. It was the second day he freaked me out though, when he said that he's happy doing anything in the kitchen but he refuses to touch a knife. Sent a chill down me. Had to let him go.

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geekfreak42@reddit

Sounds possibly autistic. But who the hell knows. Trust your vibe

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

Or been threatened before. My ex held a big kitchen knife to my face.
I had to have therapy because of flashbacks & nightmares & could only use little veg paring knives for years.

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borrowednightmare97@reddit

I initially read this as professional chickens

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TranslatorCritical11@reddit

A poultry excuse for terrible reading comprehension.

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CarpeCyprinidae@reddit

He wasn't being serious, it was just bantam

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Digger__Please@reddit

Trying to alleviate the fowl atmosphere in the kitchen.

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NoAimElaine@reddit

I had a date with a guy when I was 19 back in 2004. We met at a cafe in the afternoon, he was a gentleman, very polite. He never said or did anything that was wrong, but I just had this feeling deep down that something wasn't right.

At the end of the date he wanted to walk me home, and I was living within walking distance and he would be heading the same way anyway to get to the parking garage where he parked his car, so in theory, it would have been a no brainer. But every part of me screamed to not go with him. So I made an excuse and hung back at the cafe for a while, I messaged my coworker who's just a few doors down to see if he can walk me home.

As he's taking me home, I noticed my date, just standing there, behind a corner past the cafe, waiting. Then he starts following us. My coworker gets us a taxi and that's the end of that. Thankfully he didn't know where I lived, I blocked him everywhere and didn't see him again.

Over the years he's been in jail for sexual assault on several occasions.

If your gut instinct is saying something is wrong, trust it. It's better to hurt someones feelings than going against your gut instinct and prove it right.

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

So glad you were kept safe.

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yumyummymum@reddit

I went on a date with a guy, who I believe was doing a phd in psychology. He was quite intense and love bombing me which I didn’t appreciate as it didn’t seem genuine. On our first and only date he admitted that when he was a child he would kill small animals in the forest and skin them. That was the final straw for me, didn’t speak to him again after that. No clue what’s become of him now. I’ve forgotten his name.

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

Jfc

Crazy that he shared that on a first date. Almost like a veiled threat of what he was capable of.

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onionsofwar@reddit

Oh my God that ain't first date material for sure. Unless you're looking for a fellow animal skinny buddy. WT-absolute-F

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CMDoet@reddit

I have a colleague who I'm convinced is a psychopath. Unfortunately they are a complete 'golden child' and I only know one other person who doesn't fawn over them. They haven't even done anything to confirm my suspicions but they are a manipulator and I get a seriously bad vibe off them.

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Just_Curious_76@reddit

This is really interesting: what were the key signs? I’m having a bit of a reality check with a recent acquaintance. Not comparing them to a psychopath by any means, but, it’s the inconsistencies that stand out. Like saying one thing very empathetically and then saying the complete opposite a few days after. You know, almost like they lost track of what they’ve said? And a bit of a power trip to top it off. All a bit bizarre and also seems quite manipulative.

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CMDoet@reddit

Highly charismatic, used to get close to people in positions of power. Inflated sense of self importance (considers themselves 'special'). Excessively two-faced. Will use influence to destabilise anyone or anything they consider a threat. Predatory vibe towards younger colleagues. Excessive emphasis on own moral high ground. Words are charming but behaviour is utterly callous. Plus my scientifically sound assessment of 'bad vibes.'

The disturbing thing is, not many people seem to identify any of these negatives for what they are. It's chilling.

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ND_CuriousBusyMind@reddit

Describes my sociopathic ex to a tee. Externally EVERYONE loved him....funny, charming, absolutely revelled in attention & fawning from others etc etc.

At home, a completely narcissistic, violent, abusive, controlling, insecure c u n t. He was not very intelligent and hated I (initially) earned more than him & done better at school. So he broke me down, little by little.

Trust your instincts.

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metroplex313@reddit

I worked with someone exactly as you describe. One of the most horrible, destructive people I’ve ever met.

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StunningLynx8795@reddit

Are you sure they’re not just autistic?

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CMDoet@reddit

I don't know whether they are autistic or not. I am aware that some autistic people are accused of having a shallow affect, as are psychopaths. However that's not part of my observations. You can read the description of the behaviours which led to me this suspicion here if you're interested.

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resident_queerdo@reddit

Doubt it. They sound like a charismatic person and as an autistic person myself, I can say with confidence, we're not. 😅

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onionsofwar@reddit

Autistic people can totally be charming. The problem is it can all crumble quite quickly and easily which leaves you looking a bit weird and creepy sometimes.

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resident_queerdo@reddit

Charm is not charisma. In my experience, many people dig the exuberance and naivety / innocence often present in autistic people. And yes, that's bound to become old quickly because it's two sides of a medal. Charisma is something else that keeps people mesmerised for prolonged periods of time. And they won't question it unless they've had a brush with certain types of abusive people who display it.

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nogeologyhere@reddit

Some autistic people are intensely charismatic, at least on the surface, usually as a result of very effective masking. The idea all autistic people are obviously awkward is myth.

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textboy@reddit

ime autism works the exact opposite.

Most people assume you're a psychopath or trying to 'trick' them or 'get away with something', when you have no malicious intent whatsoever. But with actual psychopaths they just fall head-over-heels for them every. single. fucking. time.

It's like you're the only one who can see through their games, but good luck saying anything for fear of becoming the office Cassandra.

The statistics for CEOs, politicians, police, etc. are very telling, but "I told you so" a cold comfort the 50th time around.

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spiralled@reddit

I think this must be a common thing, I've got a colleague who is exactly like this.

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EhDinnaeEvenKen@reddit

Met my ex's older cousin at a family party once, and was told "He can be a bit strange with new people, but he's nice when you get to know him." by several members of the family

That guy instantly gave me the fear deep in my gut, and I went out of my way to never be around him if I could avoid it. I never could relax around him, as it always felt like there was a predator staring daggers into my back. No matter how friendly he tried to be, my subconscious was screaming to get away from him, and I could never explain to my ex's satisfaction why I just hated being around him.

A few years after breaking up with her, I read a story in the local newspaper about him raping and murdering some woman he met on the internet and her toddler daughter, before burying them both under his kitchen floor.

A lot of other stuff was revealed about him and his "proclivities" during the trial, and he was every bit as horrific as my instincts were telling me.

If I didn't trust my instincts before, I certainly do now.

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Exciting_Mud1190@reddit

Did this happen in Dundee by any chance?

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EhDinnaeEvenKen@reddit

Yep, it did indeed.

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flapsmagee@reddit

There was another slightly older child too, who he didn't kill but kept with him. Horrific.

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Exciting_Mud1190@reddit

Thought so, guy bought the stuff he used to hide the bodies, in the B and Q I used to work in.

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Sad_Cardiologist5388@reddit

I tend to be wary around people who have to be introduced by well wishes like that

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Deep_Banana_6521@reddit

There was a guy I worked with a long time ago. I was "head chef" (there were only 2 chefs) of a pub and this guy was the assistant bar manager and me and him never got on. He was just weird, into very cliche "geek culture" stuff and even though me and him clashed a few times over management things, the time I got the real ick was a young barmaid was tagged in and swiftly deleted a photo where her boob had come out on facebook. She came to the kitchen to tell me Liam was sending her weird text messages and if me and the bar manager could "help". So when Liam wasn't looking, I went into his phone and changed her phone number to my number and put it back and literally within the hour he was sending me texts begging to see the picture. As a joke I got the bar manager to lift up his shirt and I took a picture of his nipple and sent it him and he replied "oh that's nice, thanks". Ignoring the fact it had lots of blonde chest hair.

Didn't hear from him for probably 10-12 years, then I see his name in a local paper saying "local tram driver sacked for child abuse imagery offenses". Turns out he was caught looking at images of kiddys at work, whilst driving a tram and got the sack and was reported to the police. The article said he had multiple complaints about abuse imagery over the years and however many thousands of images were found on various devices. Defo a wrongun.

The other was a regular in said pub. He was a very large, very pale man with no teeth and lots of tattoos. I got a very weird vibe from him because he would come in, sink a few pints with his mate, who I knew was a local dealer, then get very loud then they'd both leave. I asked the landlord about him and turns out he was convicted for murdering 2 people back in the day and was recently released from prison.

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urghconfuddled@reddit

There was a man in our village that as kids we all used to say 'Dave' is werid" to our parents. They always told us we were being silly because 'Dave' was mates with all the adults in the village. 'Dave' never interacted or would talk us kids. He was always moody and he werided us out. Years later word got around that he'd been struggling with invasive thoughts about pedophilia. 'Dave' was ostracized and thankfully he ended up doing some serious therapy. Another few years went by and I happened to see him and it was like meeting a different person - some who was a better person for being unburdened and getting the help they need. For the record there were no allegations said or made about him. It changed my perspective in terms of how we handle such a taboo subject as a society - as in how we need to ensure that there is access to help for those who need it instead of immediately shunning them as monsters, in order to stop any abuse before it could happen.

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OptimusPrime365@reddit

Paedophiles cannot be rehabilitated.

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Direct-Unit-2877@reddit

intrusive thoughts are not the same as attraction. “oh god what if i’m attracted to that kid” is not the same as “i am attracted to that kid”. i’d encourage you to look up intrusive thoughts. please don’t take this as me excusing genuine paedophilia, it is disgusting, but intrusive thoughts are a different thing

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Gingerpett@reddit

No, absolutely take your point. I was really responding to the comment talking about pedophilia. I'm not convinced that Dave didn't just have intrusive thoughts either.

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Rich-Peak-3902@reddit

There are only two options though, and attempting rehabilitation is clearly the better.

Option A: We create an environment where paedophiles know that they can seek help without judgement or mistreatment before they harm children.

Option B: We create an environment where paedophiles feel they can't seek help without judgement or mistreatment and they fester away until they harm a child and are discovered.

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Gnordic_Gnome@reddit

It sounds like Dave was suffering from a form of OCD and was not in any way a risk to children. In fact, people like this often avoid children as much as possible.

This situation doesn’t even require the argument that attraction isn’t the same as offending. It’s likely Dave wasn’t even attracted to children.

A non-offending paedophile may be sexually attracted to children and feel some sort of guilt about it. The thoughts themselves obviously don’t tend to be distressing though because they are sexually gratifying.

A person with POCD is not attracted to children but has intrusive thoughts that they may be. The thoughts are highly distressing and not at all sexually arousing. While the level of distress and lack of sexual arousal should logically prove the point to the person that they’re not a paedophile, OCD is sadly not logical.

It’s why I hate that OCD is often used to mean “likes things clean” when in fact it’s way bigger than that.

It’s not talked about when it’s someone refusing to walk past a school in case they hurt a child even though they have no actual desire to do that.

Or if a young mum chooses to live in a bungalow because they’re so scared they’ll throw their baby out of an upstairs window. Hearing this, people would assume it’s post natal depression and that they are overwhelmed and considering hurting their baby. In actual fact, the intrusive thoughts are highly distressing and the person is not in any way considering (or importantly at risk of) actually harming their baby.

Unfortunately the lack of understanding and shame is a massive barrier to getting help. I mean, maybe Dave is a paedo. I don’t know the guy. But “intrusive thoughts” would make me reluctant to assume that.

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SwaggersHereditary@reddit

How are you getting downvoted? Oh yeah this is reddit

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urghconfuddled@reddit

No, its because people understand the difference between someone who needs help and hasn't offended vs. someone who has committed such a crime and who should be held accountable.

Separately to add that having been a victim of grooming and attempted child abuse, I know that my abuser has since been rehabilitated. Whilst I can never excuse or forget what he did, I empathise that he was himself abused and was taught to normalise it. He wasn't able to get the help he needed at the time and so went onto to do the same to me.

If we really want to put a stop to such abuse then as a society we cannot keep ostracizing those that seek and need help.

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BirdieStitching@reddit

I completely agree. I had maternal OCD and it was terrifying. I can't imagine how much of a torment POCD must be

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Gingerpett@reddit

They might never change their attraction orientation but they can be given support so they don't offend.

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fluentindothraki@reddit

I was walking my friends' dogs (friend was unwell) for a few days. I picked them up very early before work, it was light but hazy / slightly foggy. I had walked through that country park with the dogs tons of times and never worried about anything. That day I saw a guy with a dog coming towards us, still quite far away and suddenly had a very vivid thought 'there is no one around to hear you scream' and at the same instant, the dogs flanked me , close enough to touch my legs. I turned off the path towards a game path and so avoided the guy.

Dogs never did this before or after, and I never felt unsafe there at any other time.

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jilljd38@reddit

There's always a difference between the ooh this person is a bit odd and the feeling of alarm and this person is not a safe person to be around there is a bloke my partner knows but doesn't have much to do with that gives off the not safe to be alone in a room with vibes

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BigDumbGreenMong@reddit

Roughly 60-70% of the people I meet at comedy open mic nights.

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DontMakeMeFightYou@reddit

Jesus, I went to one once with my housemate where a guy's talent was to do impressions, gotta be honest they were really good & he got a good laugh out of the crowd, he wore a Zoot suit & his finale was mashing two celebrity impressions together which worked weirdly. He give me a few odd vibes & was coming onto my housemate WAY too hard but, hey comedians, right? He joined our group at the pub afterwards & we were talking about his work & he just pipes up with "oh yeah sometimes I pretend to be American to pick up girls...it's SO funny waking up in the morning & treating them to my real voice" felt fucking cold after that, it was so callous & bizarre & most importantly rapey af that I just made my excuses & left with my housemate.

A few weeks later my housemate said she has noticed him around a few times when going to the shops, which maybe he just lived near & it was a coincidence but I offered to go with her when she needed anything. We saw him quite a few times from a distance but he always seemed to disappear with me around, I kept going with my housemate & he stopped being around after a while & I thought that was that.

Saw him many years later talking in an American accent to some drunk girls outside a pub. Turns out the girls he was talking to knew the person I was with so I just said to the person I was qith & said "hey he's not American, he does impressions & lies to women to get them into bed, you should tell your friends" so she rushed over & they turned on him in a fucking instant & he soon scarpered.

All this to say my safety radar never has functioned properly but if a woman says a man is being creepy - always best to listen to her!

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dog_harry@reddit

Audience members or comedians?

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hunsnet457@reddit

Back when I was younger I went on a date with a guy, from the moment I met him something inside me told me to be on guard around this man.

The date technically went well and I actually went home with him - because I was an idiot.

Even back at his still couldn’t shake this feeling, eventually I just had to leave. When I told him I wanted to go he refused to let me - He lived in some strange building where you had to have a code to get through every door - Eventually I had to threaten him with calling the night security at my work to come down and get me, and it wasn’t until I actually dialled that he let me out. (Lucky he did because I didn’t even have enough signal in that weird building to call)

I ran from his all the way to my work and sat there with the cleaners and the security staff, crying my eyes out over that horrible feeling I had that I couldn’t even put into words. They were very nice about it, they were all 40+ at the time and had enough life experience to know exactly what I meant and exactly what would have happened.

Not even a week later when I told my manager I found out this guy was a known rapist, how dozens of people had reported this guy to the police and they hadn’t done anything about it (this was almost 3 decades ago and we were all gay men, the police didn’t care).

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Fit-Jellyfish1675@reddit

Back gate wasn't locked one day and the next thing I know there's someone in my garden.

Go out and ask him whats up and he is just ranting about people being after him and staring at things that aren't there.

I called the police saying I think there's either a person having a mental break down or there's a guy that is being followed by people that are trying to harm him. Couldn't have been more than about 10 minutes later I get a knock at my door and there's 5 or 6 police out there looking for him.

Poor chap seems to have serious mental health problems as the police knew who I was talking about from a vague description and one of them brought out a photo of the guy on his phone.

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AdonisCarbonado@reddit

Anyone who has that little bit of white/ spittle in the corner of their mouth or steak bake crumbs in or around their beard. Can’t trust those type of women.

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ddmf@reddit

Friend of my ex, her 8 year old son gave off a serious predator vibe.

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Morganx27@reddit

There was a guy who my partner was friends with. I've never had the feeling before or since, but as soon as I looked at him I just thought "someone needs to deal with you". He was super intense, like every conversation you could sense he was just about to fly off the handle. I wanted so badly for him to drop the act with me in the room. He always used to make comments about how he was the strongest person going, how he used to get into fights all the time and win, but he was a total beanpole with 0 physical strength. He made disparaging comments about his parents, his mother in particular, he was just textbook future murderer.

I've no idea what he's been up to since, but my partner soon saw the light and blocked him. I'm very much expecting to see him on the news. Weirdest guy I ever did meet, and I really hope I don't see him again.

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thecatsothermother@reddit

This happened years ago, and I still don't know why. I was sat on a bus and a passenger boarded at a later stop. As he walked past me, I felt every hair on the back of my neck stand on end and I felt creeped out.

I'm sorry there's no resolution or reveal about him, but that's my experience, which I'll never forget. It was so weird and unsettling.

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-aLonelyImpulse@reddit

While I was working as a journalist in Ukraine there was a middle-aged lady who came over to talk to my colleague and I. There was nothing unusual about her but I just had a very bad feeling. My colleague and I made some small talk (we have a little Ukrainian so can muddle through) and there was just something about her that I didn't like. She was also very touchy and hugged us a lot, which is something pickpockets do to open zips/straps so their accomplices can come up behind you and slip things out.

I make some excuse to leave and she insists on coming with us. She also tries to get us to carry some things of hers. Red flag number two -- being in possession of her things makes it harder for us to split, and also she can claim we stole it. I was watching for this thanks to that weird feeling, so I played along and led us all into the train station. As soon as we were in, I shoved her stuff back into her hands, grabbed my colleague, and dragged him through the military checkpoint. He was asking what the hell happened when we saw that the lady had been joined by three younger guys and they were all glaring some real daggers at us. До побачення!

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JJBrazman@reddit

What does the Cyrillic bit mean? I’m on my phone so I can’t copy it into a translator.

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-aLonelyImpulse@reddit

It's just the standard way of saying goodbye -- do pobachenya! Which is what I said to our new friends as we bounced outta there lol.

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Careless-Cow3222@reddit

I went on a date with a guy. He made me dinner at his house. After dinner we were watching music videos on his tv and he had a few drinks by then and seemed a bit tipsy. Out of nowhere he starts calling the women who were dancing sluts and referring to the black people with racist slurs. I looked at him, about to call him out on his language and bigoted views, and then saw his face. His eyes were glazed over and he had this creepy, resolute stare. His face had gone a shade of red and I could see veins appearing on his forehead. I immediately knew that calling him out would be a bad idea and would provoke him. I did not feel safe and played along, smiling and nodding politely so he didn’t think anything was wrong. I was too afraid to even tell him I wanted to leave as I felt like he could snap and do something to me. So I waited until he fell asleep and then snuck out. I blocked his number and never saw him again. I have never gotten such a creepy feeling from someone before and felt like I was in danger without the person being violent. I just knew there was something wrong with him and I had to leave.

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onionsofwar@reddit

Smart move but completely depressing that you have to sneak around and couldn't call out is bullshit. Glad you got safe there.

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OptimusPrime365@reddit

Thank you, still here!

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OptimusPrime365@reddit

Fawning has got me out of some scary situations too