More Airline Bankruptcies May Be Coming — JetBlue And Frontier Face The Highest Risk
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Some interesting data within this article
lbutler1234@reddit
Everything else aside, this thought just occurred to me:
Can an airline buy up their own oil reserves? Would it be legal, let alone make sense?
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I have no idea, but what I do know is that if I were a weilder of power in an airline, I'd be trying my damndest to make sure we're equipped to manage a fuel price crunch as well as reasonably possible. (Short term pump and dump Mr krabs economics be damned)
guyinsunglasses@reddit
Delta actually owns their own refinery. They take all the jet fuel and sell the byproduct on the open market.
DentateGyros@reddit
Southwest did that in the early 2000s as a hedge, and it paid off
jackofnac@reddit
Maybe airlines should’ve done this in 2018 instead of all the insane stock buybacks that were going on then.
xnmyl@reddit
How many of those execs are still around now? It makes perfect sense when the execs are only around for ~4 years. They got huge bonuses and left
lbutler1234@reddit
This is the second time I said "I have no idea if this is a good idea in reality, but I'd do (x)" and then someone told me that folks were already doing that. It makes me feel smart :)
(The other time was when I said that I'd construct new residential towers on NYCHA (NYC housing authority) property, let everyone currently living there move in, and then raze the dilapidated (shitty)/non space efficient buildings there and build new, nicer, and denser buildings for the sake of helping ease the city's housing crunch.)
But yeah, maybe my brain has been cooked by corpo-ganda, but I'm under the impression that Southwest had a really smart business plan for a long time. (Punting on upgrading their IT system notwithstanding) Too bad the enterprise is pretty much dead now.
Abject_Meme_6969@reddit
That's literally the point of futures contracts. It's essentially saying I'll pay $10 today to commit to $50 a barrel for delivery in June. If oil is above $60, they come out ahead, if oil were to crash, they're still on the hook to buy at $50 unless they can sell the contract.
DRNbw@reddit
But does a futures contract will actually guarantee you the oil, if it wasn't produced at all? The world is down what, 20% production, so it's not just cost.
lbutler1234@reddit
Welp ig it never occurred to me for an airline to use them in that way before (even though it makes perfect sense to)
But fwiw I think having a futures contract is different from having your own fuel on hand. The former is a decent tool to help diversify risk, but the latter can go a long way from insulating you from the economy of a commodity that's equal parts volatile and essential for your business.
For having your own supply, any risk assumed is well known (the price of oil at the time you buy it + the capital cost of infrastructure + reccuring cost of storage), and even if you buy oil at a higher price than you ultimately needed to, you'll still have a bunch of oil. Also, as soon as [insert politician here] decides to do something stupid you have your supply ready to go. It can sit around until you need it.
(Obligatory: I'm not much of a business man. I took three economics classes in college, and got good grades in two of them. I also don't know much about oil. (Like what's the difference between the commodity and jet fuel? Does it go bad? Taxes? How the fuck does it even get transported to the airport anyways? Are small slow rinky dink electric planes gonna be a thing in the 2030s and make Cape air the king of the world?))
Jaggedmallard26@reddit
Jet fuel (and all refined fuels really) degrade surprisingly quickly. When you read about national reserves they are being held in the form of crude barrels which as you would expect from the fact they've been in that form for a very long time don't decay. For an airline to actually maintain a meaningful stock they would have to own their own refineries which Delta actually does but its a huge expense and complication. Futures contracts are fairly safe instruments that they buy at sane prices and can only get reneged on via force majeure.
TraderJ1@reddit
Exactly right. I met the head coffee hedger for Starbucks at an event once. Interesting guy.
AdditionalAsk159@reddit
Doesn't Starbucks produce a lot of their own coffee at this point?
valueflyer@reddit
Most airlines would hedge their fuel exposure, but they stopped doing so several years ago because it wasn’t beneficial. Now when there’s a price shock, they’re all caught flat footed.
Delta has a refinery, and I think it’s saved them $300m in Q2, but it also lost like $200m in 2020, so (as is any hedge) it’s based on the current market.
TenderfootGungi@reddit
They can buy future fuel contracts, yes. It is like buying insurance against price increases. But, it comes at a cost to do this continuously just in case.
bri85@reddit
Delta have their own refinery and can offset jet fuel cost for over 50% of their daily domestic flights. Overall one of the few airlines that has invested heavily on their infrastructure.
Boeing367-80@reddit
Allegiant once looked into buying its own wells. Delta bought an oil refinery to control the crack spread (which has nothing to do with plumbers bending over to work).
Lookingfor68@reddit
Delta bought a refinery several years ago, so yea... they can.
Astramael@reddit
I think this was somewhat expected by everybody. Not that we wished it to happen, but airline margins can be quite small. A cost increase this large and enduring was always likely to push a number of airlines out of sustainable business. I don’t expect Spirit to be the last in 2026. I haven’t heard much news from Europe or Asia, but presumably some smaller carriers there are also on the brink.
ILikeFlyingMachines@reddit
It was very expected IMO. Budget airlines always relied on fuel being so cheap, and it was no secret that fuel will not be cheap forever.
In general the economy in the western world was going very well the last decades, so a lot of people could afford luxury stuff like flying (yes, that IS luxury).
lbutler1234@reddit
Hell, budget airlines were dropping at a pretty decent clip before this latest scrallywraggle, at least outside of the USA market. (Thomas Cook, Air Berlin, Wow, and Play off the top of my head.)
Expo737@reddit
Thomas Cook was a totally different issue, their parent company had merged with MyTravel out of desperation (various British tour operators were pairing up and they didn't want to be left on their own), their MD was a complete bonehead who insisted on a brick and mortar travel agency in every town and village across the land who then made a deal with Co-Op travel for a partnership in which the latter could leave after x years in which Thomas Cook would be forced to buy them out - which of course happened so they spaffed more good money after bad. The final nail in the coffin was nearly ten years after the merger they had to re-do some accounting and ended up writing off well over £1 billion in "goodwill", they then found themselves in over £1.6 billion in debt...
Of course there is more to it, Condor (the German airline part of the group) was syphoning off funds from the UK airline in a sadly legal way, it was getting a lot of their flying done by the British arm and they weren't too bothered about paying the going rate.
I could go on but that's just the cliffnotes.
Source: Writing a book on airline failures and the Thomas Cook Group is a massive part of it.
langley10@reddit
Europe is a very different market though.
Remarkable-Public622@reddit
Yup. Revenue models and load factors are totally different for ULCC’s there. But still, I expect to see bankruptcies all over.
langley10@reddit
Well of the 4 you listed, only 2 could be argued to be actually ULCCs in the classic sense. Thomas Cook was a package holiday airline group associated with a major travel and tour agency, which is actually what failed and pulled the airlines (plural) down with it. Wow and Play are basically the same idea recycled, trans Atlantic lower cost not really ULCC but sorta yes, I wouldn’t call them ULCCs myself but I’d see the argument (though to me they would categorize as Long Haul low cost, not Ultra Low Cost. And Air Berlin operated as a long haul and lower cost hybrid but never got to ULCC pricing overall, even on European routes.
Ryanair, Easyjet, Wizz and a few smaller operators are the European ULCC. And you have pseudo ones like Vueling and Eurowings that are parts of major mainline operator groups but price as ULCCs.
Jaggedmallard26@reddit
I've always found (as a Brit) the flag carrier subsidiary low cost airlines are priced and ran like regular LCCs rather than the true ULCCs. Could be different depending on the city the prices are competing with the lower end of the subsidised hub and spoke tickets (e.g. what KLM-AF do for the regional airports where you effectively don't pay for your connecting flight) but rarely if ever get as cheap as the ULCCs. Feels like its competing with Jet2 citybreaks and similar rather than Ryanair.
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
I think AFK does have Transavia
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
EasyJet as an ULCC is might be an understatement because they’re the Southwest of Europe, Ryanair invented the ULCC model before Spirit and Frontier adopted this format. TUI still exists as a vertically integrated leisure operator and the only 5 left in Europe alongside Edelweiss, Corsair, Neo, Sunclass.
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
How about supporting the 2 Lufthansa subbrands of Edelweiss and Discover or even IAG’s Level, Norse and Condor in case of the lack of jet fuel will absorb or bought up?
sofixa11@reddit
Which is why the smart / resourceful ones like Ryanair hedged their fuel supplies and are relatively safe for the coming months.
BubbaTheGoat@reddit
Ryanair has been fantastically profitable recently. The industry as a whole operates on 4% margin, where Ryanair is at 12%.
In the US airlines have pursued aggressive stock buy-backs instead of investing in their infrastructure (see Southwest) or purchasing financial vehicles to protect against headwinds (see everyone).
pacalcommander@reddit
And Wizzair has fuel hedges as well, as per their CEO József Váradi.
IMO, I expect Air Baltic to have problems and maybe SAS, but not necessarily due to the recent buyout by the AFKLM group. TAROM can be another one to keep an eye out for.
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
Ryanair technically invented the ULCC before Spirit came along
Boeing367-80@reddit
It's not true that budget airlines are necessarily more reliant on cheap fuel. Budget carriers usually have shorter haul flights. Avg for Ryanair apparently a little over 1000km.
Traditional carriers generally have far longer stage lengths and high fuel prices fall heavily on such carriers. I see one source saying British Airways 777 routes have an average stage length 6x that of the Ryanair network. Such BA flights will be clobbered.
I see another source saying the Qantas network has an avg stage length of 11000+ km. Ultra long haul route economics will be devastated. Qantas, Air NZ, etc... not great place to be.
There is also additional circuity in places for such carriers due to closed air spaces.
ILikeFlyingMachines@reddit
No, because for long haul there is no alternative. People HAVE to take the plane. For short haul people can use trains or cars and additionaly, at least here in Europe, most short haul is holiday flights where people can just go somwhere else
langley10@reddit
The AVERAGE QANTAS cannot be over 11000km, they only have a few routes that are that long and many domestic, trans Tasman and much shorter routes into Asia that far offsets the few ultra long hauls.
All the route to Tokyo, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Taipei, Singapore etc etc from Australia are under 11000km, so the average of all their routes cannot be that high.
bcl15005@reddit
Agreed.
You could've seen this one coming from a generation away, and to their credit - a lot of people did.
Thankfully this should all blow over like it did in the 70s, and we can go back to normal until this happens again but more and worse.
the_devils_advocates@reddit
JetBlue offered more than feontier because a merged frontier and spirit likely would have put B6 out of business. They’re struggling. Now with spirit out let’s see how it works out…
Boeing367-80@reddit
I doubt it. Mergers are hard and neither Spirit nor Frontier was/is loaded with mgmt talent. So for years their attention would be absorbed by merger BS.
Meanwhile, the combined carrier would be subject to the same pressures that since Covid have made F9 and NK unprofitable, plus merger costs. So by now the combo would likely be in Ch 11. JetBlue might have had a couple less comfy years, but in the actual timeline it also took its eye off the ball bc of its own merger BS. So likely a wash and to the extent B6 kept focus on running a better operation, there's even a chance they might be better off.
the_devils_advocates@reddit
Not sure man. I used to fly for spirit. Lots of us felt the same way. B6 was a strategic over bid to prevent a worse outcome. I guess we will never find out now
PM_ME_HOUSE_MUSIC_@reddit
Speak for yourself, personally I’d be happy to see Frontier go out of business.
Absolutely trash airline
Winbot4t2@reddit
Wishing for pilots to lose their jobs because you don’t like the airline? Non-pilot detected.
siouxu@reddit
Scale matters probably more than anything right now. Scale for credit cards and all the other more profitable streams.
Emotional-Ad-6494@reddit
Yea it’s actually shocking their profit margins are typically 11%
Historical_Term2454@reddit
In Q1, everyone except DL & AA made a loss or broke even (up to a rounding error). That was largely before the Iran war and kerosene prices doubling.
commandercody_76@reddit
Are you sure?
pementomento@reddit
I can’t help but wonder if the Alaska figure is skewed by merger costs or whatever
Easy_Money_@reddit
It’s partly merger costs and mostly that fuel is more expensive on the west coast. Alaska started sourcing more fuel from Singapore in the past few years to offset that, but Singapore fuel prices spiked highest due to the war, so this actually screwed them harder.
They also usually lose money in Q1 due to lower Alaska and Seattle demand. It’s not too concerning yet since their financials are mostly okay, but the Q2 projections due to fuel headwinds are ugly
abgtw@reddit
Alaska is in some ways a very seasonal airline.
Easy_Money_@reddit
Yeah, the Hawaiian acquisition was meant to offset some of that seasonality
Sassaglas@reddit
Yes, it is mentioned there in the asterisk "*Alaska results include Hawaiian Airlines and reflect integration costs and seasonal Q1 weakness."
soyouwantausername@reddit
Isn’t their positioning to the street that the merger has been best in class? So they’re either full of shit or sandbagged the M&A costs in their guidance.
Easy_Money_@reddit
They bought a money-losing airline and managed to turn things around within a year: the Hawaiian unit had its first profitable quarter since 2019 in 2Q2025. They also pulled off a passenger service system cutover with no disruptions, all that’s left is the union stuff/seniority lists. It hasn’t been seamless but by merger standards it’s been pretty good, especially with the added complexity of not killing the Hawaiian brand
pementomento@reddit
Oh god I’m old or need new glasses
somefukn@reddit
Yeah the cost of buying a money losing airline.
Lookingfor68@reddit
Likely, yes. They're still working through stuff. Also the full impact of the war hadn't really kicked in yet, 2Q will be a slaughter.
Historical_Term2454@reddit
Yep, thanks for posting the graphic!
CantDoThatOnTelevzn@reddit
Please clarify for the peanut gallery…yes you’re standing by your statement, but also thanking them for the pic that shows it to be demonstrably false?
Historical_Term2454@reddit
Do you see the airlines that made a decent profit are DL and UA?
Everyone else lost or essentially broke even, as I claimed.
Maybe WN did okay - just above breaking even.
srv340mike@reddit
Sun Country had a 7.9% margin and isn't that big that's better than just breaking even
CantDoThatOnTelevzn@reddit
You misunderstand. I am literally asking you to explain it to someone who doesn’t see what you’re talking about. To me, the graphic posted depicts quite a few airlines with margins quite above a rounding error. In fact, one of the ones you claim did great only cleared the next runner up by a point and a half. I’m asking you to explain bc there is clearly something I don’t get, and am trying to learn.
Veritech-1@reddit
$242 million is chump change. Sun country with a 7.9% profit margin is really basically breaking even.
Excellent analysis, chief.
Easy_Money_@reddit
They’re talking about GAAP earnings, most likely. Delta’s +$423M flips to a loss, and JetBlue’s -$12M goes to -$319M
* United Airlines: $699 million net income ($2.14 diluted EPS)
* Delta Air Lines: ($289 million) net loss, primarily due to non-cash investment losses
* American Airlines: ($382 million) net loss
* Southwest Airlines: $227 million net income
* Alaska Air Group: ($193 million) net loss, hit hard by West Coast fuel costs and Hawaii storms
* JetBlue Airways: ($319 million) net loss
* Allegiant Travel Company: $42.5 million net income ($2.30 diluted EPS)
* Sun Country Airlines: $24.1 million net income ($0.43 diluted EPS)
* Spirit Airlines: ($125.1 million) net loss for January 2026
BrianBash@reddit
I have a soft spot for Sun Country. I don’t know why, I’ve never flown them. 😆
Allegiant is what it is. They pay shit but were fine the couple times I flew them. PSP to DSM. That route didn’t last 🤔 😆
Easy_Money_@reddit
that’s a crazy route lol
BrianBash@reddit
Right?! 😆 One of my students (I have a flight school) bought a Cessna 182 in Des Moines. I flew out with him for insurance purposes in order to fly it back here to the desert.
Odd timing, but hey, I’ll take it? 😂
airpab1@reddit
Spirit blew it by not doing anything it took to merge with Frontier. Leadership failure to the max
But now that Spirit is no longer, JB may have a path back by acquiring some of Spirit’s valuable Florida gates/slots & adding some of their profitable Latin America & Carribean routes
CAWWW@reddit
I’m guessing it’s because you are misremembering what happened. Spirit mgmt was expressly pro frontier and anti JB and got overruled by shareholders and were forced into the JB merger, only for gov to sue and stop it leaving Spirit with no plan. Spirit got screwed by two presidents back to back AND its shareholders.
airpab1@reddit
You’re right….I had forgotten some of the facts & it’s way more accurate as to what really happened & why
Bad decisions by shareholders& the 2 so-called leaders of the company sealed their fate. Didn’t need to happen…that’s what makes it so difficult to accept. Frustrating & beyond sad.
airpab1@reddit
Downvote? Explain?
commandercody_76@reddit
JB has a massive debt problem like Spirit, its just not critical yet. Adding a couple more Florida routes isn’t the answer.
langley10@reddit
Well without Spirit competition they don’t even have to add routes to Florida, there should just be an increase in demand. No one is likely to add much capacity in those markets for now so that should help them. Not guaranteed but nothing airline business related ever is.
commandercody_76@reddit
You are correct. They have a long path to profitability, however, and I hope for all our sakes that oil prices come down sooner rather than later.
Lookingfor68@reddit
The merger was two drunks holding each other up. JB even said they dodged a bullet as it would have cost them billions they didn't have.
airpab1@reddit
Did you read what I said? Who’s talking about the JB merger??
airpab1@reddit
No real input, just mindlessly pushing the down arrow….inane
hercdriver4665@reddit
ULCC is not a sustainable long term biz model. It only works at first when all the employees are on low paying contracts. After a few bargaining cycles they will have the same labor costs, fuel prices, and airplanes as the flagship carriers(but less offerings and worse customers)
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
I mean Allegiant and Frontier might benefit at least, Avelo is yet to deliver their first E2 planes in 2028 because they only have 15 737NGs. Breeze is still new but they have the new A220s as does JetBlue.
srv340mike@reddit
The model Allegiant and Sun Country use is different then Frontier/JetBlue/Spirit and it seems to be at least a little more sustainable
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
The takeover is yet to complete btw
srv340mike@reddit
Yes, but even independently of that merger, both of those companies work. Sunny is actually the more consistently well performing of the two
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
Well might be the first sign of M&A, JetBlue did have some merger talks with 3 airlines.
aerohk@reddit
Ryanair is the fifth highest net income of all airlines worldwide, sometime €30–€40 round trip.
Ok_Excitement725@reddit
Interesting article but from what I have read, Frontier will likely have to do a Spirit type restructure in the next 12 months or so...shrink to profitibility/cut routes etc...if things don't change for them in order to survive. And this was speculated before the oil prices went crazy. So the timeline of survival for them may actually be alittle more serious now given oil is still going up and almost no chance of it going back in the near future.
JB in my opinion will absolutely end up gone as an independent entitiy in the next 12-18 months but will live on after UA figures out an aquisition plan or in a worst case scenario for JB, absorbs all their assets in liquidation. Either way, unless oil drops back to pre-war prices no way the bankruptices are over with yet.
OldeArrogantBastard@reddit
Ugh, I’d wish Delta would scoop in over UA. I fly JB often as it’s the main airline with direct at my nearest airport and the thought of it becoming UA would be the worse.
seeasea@reddit
Unless UA (or other big boy) approaches the debtor in management and makes a low-ball offer for all it's assets. That way they get all the assets, without acquiring debts, employees, obligations etc, etc.
May be attractive
Ok_Excitement725@reddit
True. Going to be interesting to see what the airline landscape looks like come 2027, certainly some changes are almost a guarantee.
Torkin@reddit
I will dance on the grave of frontier. Worst flight experience in memory was flying on them.
el_lley@reddit
In Mexico, when Mexicana went bankrupt, the two next airlines were forced to take the Mexico City spots, one was a budget airline, which make it to rise prices, and people stop flying with it, so it also went bankrupt.
CAWWW@reddit
Which airline was this? Never heard of an airline forced to service as opposed to bidding for gates. Sounds like there is a bit of an interesting story here.
el_lley@reddit
Interjet
uglyraed@reddit
It doesn’t help that aviation in the US isn’t very competitive. The profit margins are thin to a degree but it is odd how the big 3 have hundreds of aircraft and any airline besides them is going bankrupt or merging for survival . The regulations and the lack of regulation need a overhaul
imanassholebcurdumb@reddit
I hope AA is next. Fuck that company
the_michael_lee@reddit
Avelo too?
srv340mike@reddit
The literal only LCCs that do decently right now are Sun Country and Allegiant
ColombianInIowa24@reddit
I hope not, but probably
Boeing367-80@reddit
At some point likely if fuel prices stay high. The carrier has had mediocre performance at best since it started give years ago.
Kenfucius@reddit
Hopefully
Comfortable_Yard_968@reddit
I think Avelo might be next since they yet to deliver their new E2 which is until 2028 to be delivered.
bungnard@reddit
Jetblue is what I fly exclusively so I hope they stick around.
Lucky_Outside_2009@reddit
All Airbus operators going bankrupt, co incidence? I think not.
Feeling_Ad7249@reddit
Take them all down. Oil prices was the cause
Shark-Force@reddit
View from the wing hating JetBlue, what’s new
lev10bard@reddit
The whole war was optional btw
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RumSwizzle508@reddit
Yeah ... Iran didn't have to take American's hostage for 444 days. Then fund terrorism across the Middle East and try to build nuclear weapons.
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TheGreatestOrator@reddit
Spirit has been losing billions of dollars per year
Boeing367-80@reddit
Not that much, but still substantial sums. The Wikipedia page for Spirit summarizes results.
CarminSanDiego@reddit
It’s kind of ironic how most of these pilots voted for their own demise
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Explain
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Majority of pilots are conservative. Especially the older Gen X captains
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SFCAFOX@reddit (OP)
Hi thanks. Was the article itself not the source? Just making sure I understand the request.
https://viewfromthewing.com/more-airline-bankruptcies-may-be-coming-jetblue-and-frontier-face-the-highest-risk/
cluttered-thoughts3@reddit
You usually just reply to the mod with the group/publisher who is the source. In this case it appears to be
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jackofnac@reddit
Spirit folding may actually help delay the demise of JetBlue and Frontier. Both benefit heavily from the reduced head-to-head competition. Alaska too.
AJohnnyTruant@reddit
I doubt jetBlue gets bought before management figures out a chapter 11 plan for the debt. Without the debt servicing costs, it was becoming a profitable company again before the war. I imagine once the debt can be managed by a company with a better credit rating it’s a good deal. But doubtfully before that. Like the Airways/AA merger worked out
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
Especially with these fuel prices.
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allahakbau@reddit
Free airplanes for the big dawgs lol
HelloSlowly@reddit
It’s wild that Spirit genuinely thought they’d sit with their $8 billion in debt and think the JetBlue deal would save their bacon.
Both would have collapsed by now had it gone through and JetBlue must be thanking their lucky stars.
They’ve dodged the stone in the river by there’s a water fall still coming
TomSelleckPI@reddit
FAFO...