It’s true that a lot of guys struggle to find sex or relationships, it’s tough out there and it’s depressing sometimes.
But you’re assuming women have it easy just because they get attention. Most of that attention isn’t love or connection, it’s just people wanting something from them. Getting a lot of interest from men looking to fuck you isn’t the same as getting something meaningful.
Imagine being surrounded by people who want to fuck you all the time since you were like 12 years old, but none of them actually care about you as a person. You might fun at first, but eventually the novelty wears off and you just feel hollow.
So yeah, you’re dealing with frustration from not getting what you want. A lot of women are dealing with frustration from getting the wrong kind of attention over and over. Both sides can be unhappy, it’s just for different reasons. Try and empathize a little.
Instead of going avg guys that are more likely to want a relationship, they still mostly go after the chads who will inevitably pump and dump them and then complain about it. No, it is completely self-inflicted and the harsh reality is avg women don't want avg guys but that until they reconcile that they will continue to suffer. It's like buying a Ferrari and being surprised it's not as reliable as Civic.
Yes but many women also want an actual relationship which they cannot achieve if they go for the hot guys who have many options. Women can always get sex which is why they often look for something in part because of how they are wired. Men want relationships too sometimes but more often than not men are just happy with sex.
Not necessarily as a significant portion of men, especially in their younger years, tend to prioritize sexual freedom over the constraints of a committed relationship. While some women are like this too, judging from the common complaints we see it's far less than men.
Nah, women getting attention from dudes raises the chances for a fulfilling relationship to occur, due to there being more opportunity for it through constant interactions.
Sure, many are stupid, just like many guys are stupid, and need to go through a few km of dick to figure out the dudes were there just to pump and dump.
Talking to my friends, it’s really opened my eyes to how manipulative, whether intentionally or not, a lot of men are.
Several, several, several times I’ve heard them get excited about a guy who’s treating them well, making a ton of promises, then pump and dumping them some weeks later because they got cold feet or found someone else. Imagine how that would make you feel happening again and again.
That happening again and again would mean the woman is dumb as bricks. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 282883 times, shame on me.
And yeah, i have woamyn frens, i have a gf, i have sisters. All of whom are functional adults and not outliers who would basically say the same thing.
Men and women are manipulative, because both men and women are shitty. After a certain age and experience this isnt a surprise, you come to expect it.
What is rly bad tho is when people waste time with this whole gender war men vs women bullshit, instead of taking time to work on themselves. But that's hard, so it's easy to just make up an excuse of how the other gender is bad and that is why hot girl #838839 is always manipulated by fuckbois, not that she is a hot girl who attracts everyone and then chooses fuckbois.
It's on the women too. Most of them don't even realize just how bad their decision making is cause they've been told whatever they wanted to hear in order for the guy to get laid by them.
A femcel is just a 3/10 that won't settle for anything less than an 8/10 so in their minds, they there are "literally no datable men anymore." It's kind of like how they'll have a closet full of clothes but nothing to wear.
Bruv, just 2-300 years ago people were still forced into marriages. Hell, maybe even today in some backwards East-Asian families.
Even further back you literally didn't have a choice because you had only a handful of women available in your village instead of several hundred thousand like today.
Ugly isn't a gene, it's a complicated thing, and can result from two attractive parents, in as much as two ugly parents can produce attractive offspring.
In the past, women had to rely more on men on income so they were incredibly willing to settle for the money, even if they weren't exactly thrilled about the guy's looks. It's only very recently, in the past couple of decades which is just a few generations so far, that women, at least in the west, have achieved income parity with men and we can see the result of it: chad carousel, hypergamy central. Lastly, you do know ugly and short women exist right?
For the most part yes but many believe that femcels don't exist. I'm saying they do but their dynamic is slightly different since the original term for incels was guys who can't get sex which doesn't apply to women.
Men with options regularly shut down hot women too but the question is does she win if she can seduces them or does the man? I known guys who rejected dimes because they knew there was more where that come from and that it actually makes them more attractive since most guys don't turn them down. People want what they can't have.
Not even remotely the same. Ugly men do not get approached by women at all. An ugly man with social anxiety and no friends has basically a 0pc chance of getting into a relationship. An ugly woman will still attract the attention of men, they may just not be the men she is interested in.
It's exactly the same. And for both lowering standards works literally 100% of the time. If it isn't working just keep lowering your standards it is guaranteed to work literally 100% of the time. Don't worry about underselling yourself, what you get is your market value (that's how markets work).
An ugly man with social anxiety and no friends can still get a relationship, attract the attention of women, maybe just not the one he is interested in. See? Easy statement.
An ugly guy without social skills, that is not outgoing has close to 0 chances.
An ugly girl without social skills will still have someone wanting to hit that.
Both can improve and both can randomly have a happenstance interaction that leads to something romantical in nature, because human mating doesn't give a fuck about our modern values and chemistry can just happen, but anyone disputing this is dillusional / not wanting to see reality.
Nah dude you just need to keep lowering the bar. At the bottom literally any man can pay someone desperate for a relationship. It'll be just as unfulfilling as a woman with someone just to use her.
JustChillin3456@reddit
Had to explain to my foid the other day that there’s no such thing as a femcel irl
Sacr3d_Kay@reddit
Fuckin’ waiting for that guy you speak of, twin
XedilianBeat@reddit
So we gonna link up or what?
JustChillin3456@reddit
Download any dating app
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
You talking to guys in dating apps?
Shadowbannedandproud@reddit
It does not apply if you are a transformer.
Pope_Aesthetic@reddit
It’s true that a lot of guys struggle to find sex or relationships, it’s tough out there and it’s depressing sometimes.
But you’re assuming women have it easy just because they get attention. Most of that attention isn’t love or connection, it’s just people wanting something from them. Getting a lot of interest from men looking to fuck you isn’t the same as getting something meaningful.
Imagine being surrounded by people who want to fuck you all the time since you were like 12 years old, but none of them actually care about you as a person. You might fun at first, but eventually the novelty wears off and you just feel hollow.
So yeah, you’re dealing with frustration from not getting what you want. A lot of women are dealing with frustration from getting the wrong kind of attention over and over. Both sides can be unhappy, it’s just for different reasons. Try and empathize a little.
geraterahmen@reddit
this has to be bait
Sharky-Li@reddit
Instead of going avg guys that are more likely to want a relationship, they still mostly go after the chads who will inevitably pump and dump them and then complain about it. No, it is completely self-inflicted and the harsh reality is avg women don't want avg guys but that until they reconcile that they will continue to suffer. It's like buying a Ferrari and being surprised it's not as reliable as Civic.
Senior-Resist9252@reddit
This just in: everyone wants to fuck hot people.
Most people tho are fugly and need personality and to take care of themselves to make it.
Sharky-Li@reddit
Yes but many women also want an actual relationship which they cannot achieve if they go for the hot guys who have many options. Women can always get sex which is why they often look for something in part because of how they are wired. Men want relationships too sometimes but more often than not men are just happy with sex.
Senior-Resist9252@reddit
Everyone wants to bang hot people and be in a really happy relationship, regardless of what they have in their pants.
The problem is being too immature to get all of that.
Sharky-Li@reddit
Not necessarily as a significant portion of men, especially in their younger years, tend to prioritize sexual freedom over the constraints of a committed relationship. While some women are like this too, judging from the common complaints we see it's far less than men.
Senior-Resist9252@reddit
Oh boohooohoo, the poor woamyn.
Nah, women getting attention from dudes raises the chances for a fulfilling relationship to occur, due to there being more opportunity for it through constant interactions.
Sure, many are stupid, just like many guys are stupid, and need to go through a few km of dick to figure out the dudes were there just to pump and dump.
Pope_Aesthetic@reddit
Please talk to more women.
Talking to my friends, it’s really opened my eyes to how manipulative, whether intentionally or not, a lot of men are.
Several, several, several times I’ve heard them get excited about a guy who’s treating them well, making a ton of promises, then pump and dumping them some weeks later because they got cold feet or found someone else. Imagine how that would make you feel happening again and again.
Senior-Resist9252@reddit
That happening again and again would mean the woman is dumb as bricks. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 282883 times, shame on me.
And yeah, i have woamyn frens, i have a gf, i have sisters. All of whom are functional adults and not outliers who would basically say the same thing.
Men and women are manipulative, because both men and women are shitty. After a certain age and experience this isnt a surprise, you come to expect it.
What is rly bad tho is when people waste time with this whole gender war men vs women bullshit, instead of taking time to work on themselves. But that's hard, so it's easy to just make up an excuse of how the other gender is bad and that is why hot girl #838839 is always manipulated by fuckbois, not that she is a hot girl who attracts everyone and then chooses fuckbois.
JustChillin3456@reddit
You don’t have to tell me
I was a femboy for a few years, would get thousands of matches on dating apps. Knew what it felt like to be a woman
Still was much preferable to getting 1-2 matched as a cis man
nyaasgem@reddit
You got matches? 😭
Skafandra206@reddit
And those are high numbers of matches for average men.
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
It's on the women too. Most of them don't even realize just how bad their decision making is cause they've been told whatever they wanted to hear in order for the guy to get laid by them.
Theroux721@reddit
You should insult men by calling them sluts; throw it right back in their face. That'll definitely work on them since it's clearly an insult.
Sharky-Li@reddit
A femcel is just a 3/10 that won't settle for anything less than an 8/10 so in their minds, they there are "literally no datable men anymore." It's kind of like how they'll have a closet full of clothes but nothing to wear.
Vall3y@reddit
I'm asking for real, isn't it literally the same for incels and fat women?
KomasanblueTheSequel@reddit
No, incels LITERALLY have no options
sadacal@reddit
If that was truly the case then ugly people would have been bred out of the gene pool by now.
nyaasgem@reddit
By now?
Bruv, just 2-300 years ago people were still forced into marriages. Hell, maybe even today in some backwards East-Asian families.
Even further back you literally didn't have a choice because you had only a handful of women available in your village instead of several hundred thousand like today.
The gene will not die out that fast.
FuckRedditIsLame@reddit
Ugly isn't a gene, it's a complicated thing, and can result from two attractive parents, in as much as two ugly parents can produce attractive offspring.
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Senior-Resist9252@reddit
Nah, cause there wasn't an evolutionary imperative for millions of years for it.
Ppl forget that evolution happens slow as fuck.
TheSenCtizer@reddit
In the past, women had to rely more on men on income so they were incredibly willing to settle for the money, even if they weren't exactly thrilled about the guy's looks. It's only very recently, in the past couple of decades which is just a few generations so far, that women, at least in the west, have achieved income parity with men and we can see the result of it: chad carousel, hypergamy central. Lastly, you do know ugly and short women exist right?
Sharky-Li@reddit
For the most part yes but many believe that femcels don't exist. I'm saying they do but their dynamic is slightly different since the original term for incels was guys who can't get sex which doesn't apply to women.
HowlingReezusMonkey@reddit
Nah there are chubby chasers for those women
Vall3y@reddit
Yes, the would be incels
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
You've never talked to attractive woman that don't get what they want. Femcel comes in all forms.
Sharky-Li@reddit
Men with options regularly shut down hot women too but the question is does she win if she can seduces them or does the man? I known guys who rejected dimes because they knew there was more where that come from and that it actually makes them more attractive since most guys don't turn them down. People want what they can't have.
Iron-Fist@reddit
I mean the same is true of men; lowering your standards is undefeated.
mayhap11@reddit
Not even remotely the same. Ugly men do not get approached by women at all. An ugly man with social anxiety and no friends has basically a 0pc chance of getting into a relationship. An ugly woman will still attract the attention of men, they may just not be the men she is interested in.
Iron-Fist@reddit
It's exactly the same. And for both lowering standards works literally 100% of the time. If it isn't working just keep lowering your standards it is guaranteed to work literally 100% of the time. Don't worry about underselling yourself, what you get is your market value (that's how markets work).
An ugly man with social anxiety and no friends can still get a relationship, attract the attention of women, maybe just not the one he is interested in. See? Easy statement.
Senior-Resist9252@reddit
Nah, it's not.
An ugly guy without social skills, that is not outgoing has close to 0 chances.
An ugly girl without social skills will still have someone wanting to hit that.
Both can improve and both can randomly have a happenstance interaction that leads to something romantical in nature, because human mating doesn't give a fuck about our modern values and chemistry can just happen, but anyone disputing this is dillusional / not wanting to see reality.
Iron-Fist@reddit
Nah dude you just need to keep lowering the bar. At the bottom literally any man can pay someone desperate for a relationship. It'll be just as unfulfilling as a woman with someone just to use her.
Theroux721@reddit
Considering 85% of women are hot™, no. Nobody is approaching the rest. No point.
Wail_Bait@reddit
I can't lower my standards any further. Bestiality is illegal.
Iron1Man@reddit
Explain to your deodorant why you haven’t used it in months first.
JustChillin3456@reddit
I still use deodorant but I forced my foid to throw hers out
I like her smell
Iron1Man@reddit
She’s real only if you pay your light bill, take your meds
JustChillin3456@reddit
Sorry I don’t take advice from Redditors 🤭
Iron1Man@reddit
Sorry I can’t be a Predditor like you
JustChillin3456@reddit
Let’s see your gf anon 🤭
Iron1Man@reddit
Let’s see your mom anon 🤭
LwySafari@reddit
wow point me to this man
JustChillin3456@reddit
Literally any dating app
DarkScorpion48@reddit
Ugly and/or short men don’t count, duh
Wigglepus@reddit
No need to add the short part. You already said it when you said ugly.
Leprechaun73@reddit
NotAUserNamm@reddit
obesity is not sexy
BBWArchitect@reddit
The sentiment of the post is correct but surely the attached image must be unrelated.
Drafonni@reddit
I thought the intention was that the female in the image was also delusional
Matt_2504@reddit
cecilforester@reddit
That's a man of exquisite taste.
igerardcom@reddit
An Architect....as it were...
Background_Cycle7676@reddit
you have vision, yet cannot see
Ladikn@reddit
If you'd rather date someone with the body of a 5 year old Chinese boy, that's your choice
NotAUserNamm@reddit
You do realize that there is a spectrum between morbidly obese and 5 year old chinese boy where l8terally all ow women exist?
anonimus10010110@reddit
That is what online hogs do, as soon as you say you prefer thinner women they strawman with "ah so you like them young p*do".
Axe-actly@reddit
If only there was a middle ground between a 5 yo boy and a lard ass... Too bad it doesn't exist, right?
JustChillin3456@reddit
Tell that to black men
ElPlatanaso2@reddit
Or a Jamaican
Negative-Net3447@reddit
Jamaican me crazy if you don’t think Jamaicans are black
Darthblaker7474@reddit
Yukon go screw yourself
PlasticAssistance_50@reddit
not sure if ragebait or dum
wordjedi@reddit
was gonna say pic is everything that wilts my old fella >!especially the moldy mildew smells!<
philmarcracken@reddit
tattoos are also fucking revolting
lamblamb65@reddit
You sound soft
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
not as soft as your heart is going to be when it decomposes at 35
lamblamb65@reddit
I’m 38 lol
AHighAchievingAutist@reddit
And both feet in the grave RIP in piece💀
simp4malvina@reddit
already well into the decomposition then
LLMprophet@reddit
Soft from looking at the lardmonster in the pic lmao
NotAUserNamm@reddit
Looking at that pic, yes it is quite hard to get hard
a-person-who-lurks@reddit
Tone down the anti-american remarks
NotAUserNamm@reddit
Tone down? As in lose weight? Is that a microaggression bro?
SnooWoofers186@reddit
Perhaps should question about their healthcare if want to go that path
Mountain-Durian-4724@reddit
wrong
CrowLaneS41@reddit
Obesity is our strength.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
The bariatric chair is my our strength.
ZealousidealState214@reddit
Call this man the federal reserve the amount of hoeflation he's causing
Drawintron@reddit
A man needs a name
lewd-boy-o@reddit
She's just fishing for coomer compliments, let the old sex doll enjoy some.
dinnerbird@reddit
Would, next question
Armyboy94@reddit
That’s fat though.
atm_love_machine@reddit
Rule #30
Fit_Lecture_9274@reddit
Gross. The obesity propaganda must end.
Snoot_Boot@reddit
They have Internet in Vietnam?
Kuhekin@reddit
No, we're using brain waves to post
HomelessNightkin@reddit
Would.
tonguepuncher88@reddit
I love fat chicks with big mommy milkers.
HefflumpGuy@reddit
That woman is unattractive to mine eye
Hayes231@reddit
I love it
fatfuck5@reddit
fatjoe19982006@reddit
Agreed, fatfuck5
kaninkanon@reddit
Anon causes hoeflation
RashFever@reddit
Plapbeast
A_HECKIN_DOGGO@reddit
Surprise surprise Gooner is goonmaxxing
Tebers431@reddit
Would smash
Mr__Castle_@reddit
Moo cow.
That being said, she keeps her hedges pretty trim.