Roundtable chat with Talkie-1930 and Gemma 4 31B

Posted by facethef@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 18 comments

Talkie-1930-13b-it and Gemma 4 31b in the same chat.

Talkie is a 13B vintage language model from 1930. https://talkie-lm.com/introducing-talkie

Hosted version if you can't run them both locally https://opper.ai/ai-roundtable/chat

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OwnerByDane@reddit

This is awesome! I was chatting with a user on MachineLearning about how to use historical data to look at language, tone, truth-seeking behavior, etc were inherent in conversations from the 1980s and 1990s and how they compare to today. It would be great to build a model to talk to our 1990s selves or just for sociometric research in language evolution.

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crantob@reddit

I can point you to several examples of language decay and subversion leading to loss of resolution (differentiation, discrimination) and false framing.

But just speaking from empirical observation, it's rare that anyone is really interested enough in the truth of the matter to consider evidence contradicting his biases.

And with that subtle meta-reference, I wave with a smile.

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OwnerByDane@reddit

Agreed all around. Cognitive dissonance is a difficult thing for anyone to get past so people become intransigent. Truth seeking behavior or patterns are rare. The question would be, how has that changed in the last 40 years (assuming it has)? We have the data and tools to understand that now so it might be a useful exercise.

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crantob@reddit

If you can find the time, there's wonderful things written centuries ago that inform us about ourselves with enough distance to be less acutely painful.

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