Bus travel in Europe
Posted by Loose-Acanthaceae823@reddit | Shoestring | View on Reddit | 19 comments
The bus is less than half the price of the train of several of the routes I'm looking at, but I'm also old enough that being uncomfortable has a cost. I'm looking at routes in France and Spain.
Is the bus comfortable? Are there bus lines that are not worth it? Alternatively, nicer ones worth booking? Please tell me your Europe bus travel advice/experience.
OmioOfficial@reddit
Rule of thumb: under 3 hours, I’d take the bus if the saving is meaningful. Around 3-5 hours, I’d take the bus if it’s direct, daytime, and the station is convenient. Over 5 hours or overnight, I’d start valuing the train much more highly unless the price difference is huge.
In Spain, buses are a very normal and often solid option. Alsa is the big national one, and their Comfort/Supra-type services can include things like WC, Wi-Fi, entertainment, footrests and USB depending on route. Avanza also has better-equipped Multimedia/Plus/VIP coaches on some routes. If Andalucía is on your route, buses can be especially useful: so much of the charm sits in hilltop white towns, olive country and old rail corridors turned into greenways, not just the high-speed city pairs.
In France, the long-distance market is mostly FlixBus and BlaBlaCar Bus; both advertise reclining seats, power/USB and toilets, but I’d expect them to feel more variable than trains. That said, a road leg in southern France can have its moments. If your route passes near Occitanie, the Millau Viaduct is one of those bits of infrastructure where the window seat actually earns its keep.
Also, as someone already said, I wouldn’t count on Wi-Fi being perfect, and I’d keep essentials like passport, wallet and electronics with me for convenience rather than putting them in the luggage hold.
If you want a quick side-by-side view, Omio can be useful for comparing bus and train times/prices in one place, then you can book there or directly with the operator.
For a shoestring trip, I’d save money on the easy bus legs and spend on trains where comfort will protect the rest of your day.
Loose-Acanthaceae823@reddit (OP)
This was super helpful. I appreciate you taking the time!
External-Candy-929@reddit
I use flixbus all the time. Often 8h+ rides.
The comfort varies, but I'd say usually there's more legroom then in Ryanair/Wizz Air planes.
In some countries, they run great deals, especially when there's a local competitor they haven't managed to kill yet. Like Itabus in Italy. Recently I've been looking at €5 trips Barcelona-Turin. That was Itabus I think but it might be relevant for your trip. I use Omio to find the cheapest lines usually.
Also quite easy to find 10% discount codes online.
AustrianAhsokaTano@reddit
I second that. Flixbus for the win
WrldTravelr07@reddit
First, why is everybody talking about Flixbus. There are hundreds and thousands of bus routes all over Europe. Safe, on-time (discounting potential French strikes), comfortable and go most everywhere you’d want. Then there are the high-speed trains. If you want to be convoluted about it, maybe it’s a problem. I never found them so.
moreidlethanwild@reddit
Avanza are great! Alsa too but Avanza I’ve had full recline leather seat, a film, AC, and for a 3 hour journey. Really good and tbh more comfortable than flying Iberia!
3117146@reddit
I’m older too and tbh i pick trains for anything over 4hrs.
Iasers@reddit
in Spain i actually found the buses pretty solid.
PixelQuetzalcoatl@reddit
If you want to travel between Paris and Strasbourg, you might want to use flixtrain.
ChestChance6126@reddit
They’re fine for shorter routes, but anything over a few hours starts to feel pretty cramped. I usually mix bus and train depending on the distance. The buses in Spain, especially, were decent, just not something I’d want to do overnight if I can avoid it.
Adventurous-Ring1611@reddit
They are not special buses It that's what you are asking, maybe some flixbus have a slightly bigger legroom but still you Will be on a regular bus there Is no sleeping cabin bus in Europe
Beware-of-Moose@reddit
4 hours or less, whatever is cheapest, valuing my time at about €10/hr. So €15 3hr bus= €25 2 hr train. After 4hrs I tend to lean more towards the train but have and will continue to take 8+hr busses if it saves a lot. It's also important to consider connections and departure times.
usesidedoor@reddit
It depends on the company. Alsa has a great fleet. With Flixbus/Blablacar, it can vary.
funlovinggay@reddit
I actually enjoyed the bus rides in Europe, especially when it’s not full . They usually have free internet on board too. Wear a nice headphone , a book and enjoy it . Some even have toilet breaks at petrol stations where you can buy snacks and drinks. They are totally worth it .
LizinDC@reddit
Busses in Spain are great (so are the trains). Some places are only accessible by bus (Merida for example).
ViolettaHunter@reddit
They are definitely less comfortable than trains.
For longer distances, I'd take a train.
bear_village@reddit
Long distance buses are kind of annoying but usually fine for 3 to 4 hours. Trains are typically far more comfortable though. You will find nightmare stories online but I never had bigger issues and you can have bad luck with any bus or train connection. Just bring noise cancelling headphones and something to read or watch on your phone. WiFi on the bus is not a given and cell phone service can be limited in the countryside. I wouldn’t choose buses for rides of over 4 hours or in the night. You know best how likely you will need a toilet after a few hours, trains are infinitely better in that regard. Also take a look where exactly the bus station is, it’s often adjacent to the train station but can also be quite far outside the city center.
baskaat@reddit
I had a very bad experience on flix bus, so I don’t recommend them and would not take them.
Aelydam@reddit
Bus is my fav transportation mode. In Europe, I have used with ALSA (Spain), Flixbus (everywhere), Itabus (Italy), National Express (UK). The only route that I didn't feel comfortable was between Barcelona and Sevilla, but I guess that's because it was a really long route, I should have stayed at Valencia for a few days.