Someone also recently mentioned that there’s currently no law on the books about removing them. That sounded really dumb to me because they’re government property, but they put those flock cameras all over my hometown and everyone is scrambling to find a way to get rid of them.
It’s an Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR) used by police and private communities to capture photos of passing vehicles. They capture stuff Ike license plates, make, model, color, and unique features like bumper stickers or scratches on cars etc. they’re highly invasive and can be used to track innocent people’s movements. There is a call to action to remove them everywhere you see them because it means we are getting closer to a “surveillance state” in the country. Depending on your state, for example Washington…said that all footage captured is public record and can be FOIA’d by ANYONE. Highly invasive.
Yeah, they’re terrible. Very disappointed in my local community of 350 people put them up. We haven’t had a crime rate of anything but zero in a decade. Literally what was the point?!
I don’t mind tolls as it’s a service I’m choosing to pay and drive on (should I choose to…which I frequently do not). Flock cameras give you no choice.
Flock Safety LLC, a private corporation with no one to answer to and no desire to do so, operates a massive mass surveillance dragnet and sells that data to local state and federal law enforcement, which aren’t allowed to dragnet that wide without a warrant by themselves. Their cameras are also laughably insecure and both authorized and unauthorized users have used them to aid in stalking and harassment.
Flock and Palantir are doing things that the Staatssicherheitsdienst, the East German secret police, could only dream of.
And worth noting that Flock is actively reporting the data it's collecting to ICE. The person who came up with the idea to install these at truckstops must think they're a genius.
The government needs a warrant to track your phone. This is mass warrantless data collection by a private corporation, which flies in the face of the Fourth Amendment.
It’s astonishing how many Americans don’t care about the Constitution being trampled on (as long as the Second Amendment is still being adhered to).
These cameras are very frequently put in very, very cheaply. Like you could just push it over with your hands cheaply. Next time you're near one give the pole a test shove.
I saw a guy one time make a hard left turn with his trailer tires all the way forward. He neatly clipped off the mirror of a new Kenworth bobtail parked in front of that parking lot entrance and didn't touch the paint job. Probably didn't know he did it either. Could see that happening here too.
I hated these, until we got a couple thousand in tools stolen. It took months, but the cops ended up being able to use it to find the guy.
How? The guy came back and stole the neighbors trailer. They tracked it, realized it was the same vehicle caught on distance by camera and then were able to check the pawn shops.
Dude, you are already being monitored by your e-log a flock camera is not going to make a damn difference considering your e-log marks you in real time
Oh, there’s a large subgroup of Americas that have a strange kink for personal freedom and their delusional beliefs that they’re being “treaded on”. In reality, they just need to get some hobbies going in their life and touch grass.
These are not purchased. Only leased by the state. All surveillance data is property of Flock.
Privacy concerns
Civil liberties groups have raised concerns because these cameras can create broad, long-term records of where vehicles travel. Critics say that can reveal personal routines and locations, even when the system is not intended to record faces.
Critics warn the system can be misused for stalking, discriminatory policing, or tracking people for reasons unrelated to crime investigations.
Plus it is fairly easy to view the camera's data for tech savy folks. Instructions are online.
Thanks everyone, had no idea what flock cameras are .
Over here I’m used to park where’s cameras just in case , pull up curtains and chill . Don’t think we have flock cameras at all
It works very differently here so I’m gonna ask , lets say someone crashes into you in the night , or someone will steal whatever, can you get the video from the private company ? Or is the issue that they don’t provide it , so its basically just spying?
Plus the government can and will use these to arrest people they don't like.
And plus plus the cops that are using them for legitimate reasons constantly fuck up. Trying to arrest innocent people because the cameras identified someone incorrectly and lazy cops don't do any investigation before just going to arrest them.
Flock cameras lead Colorado police to wrong suspect: "It became my job to prove my innocence" - CBS Colorado https://share.google/J2PKXjVX2uGnxLe4i
Google flock cameras lead to false arrests and there's a bunch of these cases^
Shameless Ben Jordan plug. This guy is awesome. He has a ton of videos about these cameras
Truck stops typically already have CCTV cameras. Flock keeps track and essentially stalks people. It'll call the cops if it thinks you're doing something illegal. Then it's a whole waste of time, especially with truck drivers cuz sometimes we circle the lot a few times seeing if a spot opens up.
The difference between flock and cctv is that it can recognize truck and trailer numbers. If you got the trailer number of a truck that broke your mirror it can find it if it passes any flock camera. CCTV can’t do that.
But it's also tracking your movements other places too. And if it even thinks you did something wrong you're getting harassed by the police with only the computer saying something. Be sitting somewhere doing your 34 and in the middle of the night bang bang bang you've been sitting here too long
Not a trucker or at a truck stop, but the last place I either say had parking lot cameras. They said if something happens, they can't show/give us the footage, but if a police report is filed and requires the footage, they'll give it to the cops
They aren’t. They are a constitutional end run. Private company acquires the data and sells it to the government and data brokers. Law enforcement would need a warrant to look at the data if it was acquired by government owned cameras.
So you trust the government more? The one filled with the pet pedos of Billionares? Remember when you talk about the “public” you’re included in that not the oligarchs behind this push.
Working for what? Warrantless domestic surveillance of innocent civilians as a slipshod workaround of the 4th Amendment?
This is not a one-off camera, it's part of a vast national surveillance network. Everybody with a functional brain in their skull should be livid about this.
Problem you have in the USA is that a not insignificant portion of the same people who yell loudest about their rights and freedoms are ok or they’re trampled for those /other/ people.
That's a different problem with Google and Meta collecting data from phones to train their AI models, and from the idiots who post everything online, but as of now they're not *directly* linked to freely handing over data to government agencies like Flock is. "Directly" as in literally: Flock cameras are installed by local and state government agencies and the nationwide data collected are retrievable by law enforcement without a warrant.
Yeah that's a big reason why TikTok was banned from gov't devices under the "No TikTok on Government Devices Act" and why the company was forced to separate from ByteDance for operation in The United States.
Idk why everyone's getting so heated. You go into any convenience store, there's cameras. Every major super market has cameras, every convenience store has cameras. This is the first time I'm seeing people get buttmad about something that's already massively prevalent.
TruckerAlurios@reddit
Just be warned the sensor in these is very susceptible to damage from the powerful green laser pointers you can buy online.
Ok_Function_7582@reddit
You could provide a link so people know which one not to buy
JackxForge@reddit
Do you know if uv lazers work?
TruckerAlurios@reddit
Needs to be under 1000mw to not damage them.
JackxForge@reddit
sick good to know! o7
HowlingWolven@reddit
So don’t blast them with a laser under any circumstance, noted. 👍
sixeightJ@reddit
Thanks for the warning!
TomaszTyka@reddit
✍️
Dropnhook@reddit
Good time to become a bladerunner
highlyelevated_207@reddit
What is this? Just a normal camera?
13_Silver_Dollars@reddit
Oh you innocent child... this is anything but a normal camera. Do some digging into flock cameras.
highlyelevated_207@reddit
Aw fuck.
I didn’t know this was a thing. I guess living in the northern woods in Maine has kept me really sheltered. This is crazy!
13_Silver_Dollars@reddit
Theres a website known as deflock.org that lets people report the locations of these things on a map. If you see something, say something.
East_History1325@reddit
Swifties, CR Englanders, Welfare Expressers…
We come to you humbly and need you in these times.
MysteryUser1@reddit
🤣
that_Delfin_guy@reddit
Just tell the local crackheads about the precious metals inside the cameras. No one is going to stop them.
hawkeye053@reddit
Someone recently mentioned there's about $300ish worth of silver in those..
drinkslinger1974@reddit
Someone also recently mentioned that there’s currently no law on the books about removing them. That sounded really dumb to me because they’re government property, but they put those flock cameras all over my hometown and everyone is scrambling to find a way to get rid of them.
Western_Repeat9374@reddit
The whole 18v panel costs like 50$ hahah they lied
captaincootercock@reddit
the newer ones have an additional $300 of gold and a catalytic converter in the stand
patricksb@reddit
A pound of copper in each camera!
Then-Bet8731@reddit
So $4.50 if torn apart? Not even worth it.
BackstrokeVictim@reddit
Looks like a free copper payday to me
DrillTheThirdHole@reddit
even better, theres about a full ounce of silver in there, worth around 300 bucks
MRcrete@reddit
Where are you getting that from? The spot price for silver is \~$75/ounce.
Jackso08@reddit
So 225? Maybe you could get around 300 if you know the right dealer
Snookfilet@reddit
Am I confused??
Jackso08@reddit
Yea my bad. I read it as three ounces for some reason
Western_Repeat9374@reddit
Theres about 2 grams of silver in them and thats about 4$
DepressedDragonBorn@reddit
What does it do and why is it bad?
Rough-Method8876@reddit
It’s an Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR) used by police and private communities to capture photos of passing vehicles. They capture stuff Ike license plates, make, model, color, and unique features like bumper stickers or scratches on cars etc. they’re highly invasive and can be used to track innocent people’s movements. There is a call to action to remove them everywhere you see them because it means we are getting closer to a “surveillance state” in the country. Depending on your state, for example Washington…said that all footage captured is public record and can be FOIA’d by ANYONE. Highly invasive.
Agamemnon323@reddit
Close to? The US is already a surveillance state.
Rough-Method8876@reddit
Well you aren’t wrong. But this violates the need for a search warrant and I have a problem with that.
Agamemnon323@reddit
Reasonable take.
Micro-Skies@reddit
Huh. I just figured it was a liability cam. Good to know
Rough-Method8876@reddit
Yeah it’s pretty fucked up.
HowlingWolven@reddit
This one is worse than most. It’s run by a private company that actively flouts your fourth amendment rights.
ProfessionalBoss8202@reddit
Republican policies in action.
Rough-Method8876@reddit
Yeah, they’re terrible. Very disappointed in my local community of 350 people put them up. We haven’t had a crime rate of anything but zero in a decade. Literally what was the point?!
CommanderKeenly@reddit
You know everytime you run through a toll it is already happening.
KatieTSO@reddit
You can choose to avoid tolls and thus their cameras. You can't avoid Flock.
Rough-Method8876@reddit
I don’t mind tolls as it’s a service I’m choosing to pay and drive on (should I choose to…which I frequently do not). Flock cameras give you no choice.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Flock Safety LLC, a private corporation with no one to answer to and no desire to do so, operates a massive mass surveillance dragnet and sells that data to local state and federal law enforcement, which aren’t allowed to dragnet that wide without a warrant by themselves. Their cameras are also laughably insecure and both authorized and unauthorized users have used them to aid in stalking and harassment.
Flock and Palantir are doing things that the Staatssicherheitsdienst, the East German secret police, could only dream of.
ExtraNoise@reddit
And worth noting that Flock is actively reporting the data it's collecting to ICE. The person who came up with the idea to install these at truckstops must think they're a genius.
JustaHarmfulShadow@reddit
I hope flock does go out of business but at least they're supposedly doing 1 good thing according to you.
ProfessionalBoss8202@reddit
Morons like you are tossing all our rights into the trash for your bigotry.
JustaHarmfulShadow@reddit
If you say so.
jrgzz20@reddit
Goverment cameras.
HowlingWolven@reddit
No, actually. Worse than that. Governments need to be open and accountable to at least a minimal lip service extent.
kniveshu@reddit
You know how other countries track down criminals with cameras? Americans don't like the thought of the government doing that.
DepressedDragonBorn@reddit
Ah, if it's just tracking i could care less. I already carry a phone around lol.
jmzstl@reddit
The government needs a warrant to track your phone. This is mass warrantless data collection by a private corporation, which flies in the face of the Fourth Amendment.
It’s astonishing how many Americans don’t care about the Constitution being trampled on (as long as the Second Amendment is still being adhered to).
HighwayStar71@reddit
A smart phone is an authoritarian government's dream.
Alive_to_Thrive5@reddit
Crazy how the party of small government somehow is okay with voting for the people that allow this.
ProfessionalBoss8202@reddit
It's because they're scared, say words "crime" or "immigrant" enough and they'll let you do anything to them and the rest of us. Cowards, every one.
Strange-Disaster5398@reddit
Flock?
scratch73@reddit
Just wait...... Western Express will have that on the ground in no time.
chaoss402@reddit
Be a damn shame if someone backed over that flock cam.
nosjitbro@reddit
Western Express has entered the chat
chaoss402@reddit
I'm picturing a may trucking or a super ego trailer parked on top of it, myself.
HighwayStar71@reddit
Nobody even has to do it deliberately. They won't last long next to the driveway.
NostradamusJones@reddit
100%
EnolaNek@reddit
New swifter here, you said park where?
DazednConfuzed62@reddit
Was gonna say, it ain't gonna be there for long. And it won't get run over on purpose either.
Immediate_Regular@reddit
These cameras are very frequently put in very, very cheaply. Like you could just push it over with your hands cheaply. Next time you're near one give the pole a test shove.
Here4alongTime@reddit
I saw a sheriff installing one on a light pole with zip ties (heavy duty ones)
Immediate_Regular@reddit
Big Brother is watching....the budget.
chinesiumjunk@reddit
Haha
ntech620@reddit
I saw a guy one time make a hard left turn with his trailer tires all the way forward. He neatly clipped off the mirror of a new Kenworth bobtail parked in front of that parking lot entrance and didn't touch the paint job. Probably didn't know he did it either. Could see that happening here too.
kiloo520@reddit
Fuck flock
itsaheem@reddit
When your every move is monitored, You won't see me
XZYXZXYZX@reddit
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Riyeko@reddit
I need someone to hack into these things after having 50 drivers either give them beans and weiners or a full moon.
Please.
Apart-Ad1652@reddit
Spray paint or piss jugs will solve that real quick.
DANO8503@reddit
I’ve played enough GTA, I can knock that camera down without being seen
Independent_Leg7358@reddit
I hated these, until we got a couple thousand in tools stolen. It took months, but the cops ended up being able to use it to find the guy.
How? The guy came back and stole the neighbors trailer. They tracked it, realized it was the same vehicle caught on distance by camera and then were able to check the pawn shops.
GT3Racer@reddit
Avondale?
Nearby_Ad6870@reddit (OP)
How can you tell?
AvianBeings@reddit
Local Phoenix driver, there all the time.
AvianBeings@reddit
Looks like 99th ave
Nearby_Ad6870@reddit (OP)
Yes
chakatsilvertail@reddit
Dude, you are already being monitored by your e-log a flock camera is not going to make a damn difference considering your e-log marks you in real time
Nearby_Ad6870@reddit (OP)
More concerned about being falsely accused of something
I hope she sues
navlgazer9@reddit
The flock Cameras track You
But not nearly as good as your smart phone tracks you
teachthisdognewtrick@reddit
But flock sells your info to data brokers who combine it with your cell phone, credit reports etc. That is the real evil behind them.
navlgazer9@reddit
So does all The apps on your phone that track your every move Plus combine it with every website you visit
Who you call
What stores you walk into
ProtestedGyro@reddit
Great argument. We already have some tracking. We should allow more. With visuals!
Distinct-Event-7472@reddit
More shit to back in to let’s go
Defiant_Network_3069@reddit
Colorado just doubled down on these cameras
Rough-Method8876@reddit
Illinois too. In a town of like 350, with a crime rate of zero for the last decade. Like wtf.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Do your civic duty and pull the damn thing down with a strap.
Jacktheforkie@reddit
Oops I misjudged the swing angle
tasselledwobbegong1@reddit
Too much work. Easier to have a Swift trainee back into it then drive off.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Either way it’s your moral duty to delete that creepy-ass Flock camera.
Tiny_Stranger7162@reddit
I’m so confused, Americans are against security ? Like it isn’t thermocam no ?
yeah-no-yeah-no@reddit
Oh, there’s a large subgroup of Americas that have a strange kink for personal freedom and their delusional beliefs that they’re being “treaded on”. In reality, they just need to get some hobbies going in their life and touch grass.
yurr55@reddit
So you think that it’s reasonable for a government to keep track of your every move?
yeah-no-yeah-no@reddit
There’s this thing, it’s called grass. It’s best to go touch some soon.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Is it paranoia if it’s been proven and exposed time and time again?
yurr55@reddit
Must be a good comrade for daddy government
MuphDiesel@reddit
You need to eat some mushrooms my friend
Aimless_Nobody@reddit
These are not purchased. Only leased by the state. All surveillance data is property of Flock.
Privacy concerns Civil liberties groups have raised concerns because these cameras can create broad, long-term records of where vehicles travel. Critics say that can reveal personal routines and locations, even when the system is not intended to record faces.
Critics warn the system can be misused for stalking, discriminatory policing, or tracking people for reasons unrelated to crime investigations.
Plus it is fairly easy to view the camera's data for tech savy folks. Instructions are online.
Tiny_Stranger7162@reddit
Thanks everyone, had no idea what flock cameras are .
Over here I’m used to park where’s cameras just in case , pull up curtains and chill . Don’t think we have flock cameras at all
ThatbrokeGC8@reddit
This isn't security. This is a private company that wants to monitor your every move.
Tiny_Stranger7162@reddit
It works very differently here so I’m gonna ask , lets say someone crashes into you in the night , or someone will steal whatever, can you get the video from the private company ? Or is the issue that they don’t provide it , so its basically just spying?
grumpy4791@reddit
No. Only police can access the videos.. Already had a cop arrested for using them for keeping tabs one his wife
Tiny_Stranger7162@reddit
Ahh allright makes little more sense now
kxlling@reddit
There was also one where flock cameras had called the cops over a kid with a dorito bag thinking it was a gun
https://www.techspot.com/news/110019-high-school-student-surrounded-police-handcuffed-after-ai.html
HowlingWolven@reddit
Police and anyone with an internet connection, actually.
LilFunyunz@reddit
A lot of cops are doing this.
plus they aren't secure at all
Plus the government can and will use these to arrest people they don't like.
And plus plus the cops that are using them for legitimate reasons constantly fuck up. Trying to arrest innocent people because the cameras identified someone incorrectly and lazy cops don't do any investigation before just going to arrest them.
Flock cameras lead Colorado police to wrong suspect: "It became my job to prove my innocence" - CBS Colorado https://share.google/J2PKXjVX2uGnxLe4i
Google flock cameras lead to false arrests and there's a bunch of these cases^
Shameless Ben Jordan plug. This guy is awesome. He has a ton of videos about these cameras
https://youtu.be/Pp9MwZkHiMQ?si=qt5OdZmwbOnFRq2Z
https://youtu.be/uB0gr7Fh6lY?si=vlS4jkCJzDEevBXW
Nero-Danteson@reddit
Truck stops typically already have CCTV cameras. Flock keeps track and essentially stalks people. It'll call the cops if it thinks you're doing something illegal. Then it's a whole waste of time, especially with truck drivers cuz sometimes we circle the lot a few times seeing if a spot opens up.
IBringTheHeat2@reddit
The difference between flock and cctv is that it can recognize truck and trailer numbers. If you got the trailer number of a truck that broke your mirror it can find it if it passes any flock camera. CCTV can’t do that.
Nero-Danteson@reddit
But it's also tracking your movements other places too. And if it even thinks you did something wrong you're getting harassed by the police with only the computer saying something. Be sitting somewhere doing your 34 and in the middle of the night bang bang bang you've been sitting here too long
SufficientWhile5450@reddit
Truck stops typically don’t have lot cameras in my experience
They have cameras at the pumps to prevent fuel theft, and cameras all over their employees to prevent theft
But out in the lot? Lawless wasteland, battle of the piss jugs
Waisted-Desert@reddit
Flock cameras use AI to determine who should be arrested and the cops happily follow along without questioning it or doing any type of investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/04/14/facial-recognition-arrest-maryland/
https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-man-wrongly-arrested-police-facial-recognition/70409653
https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/north-dakota/ai-error-jails-innocent-grandmother-for-months-in-north-dakota-fraud-case
https://www.gulfcoastnewsnow.com/article/ai-leads-to-wrongful-arrest-of-lee-county-man/63745255
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/26/nyregion/nypd-facial-recognition-dismissed-case.html
EragonBromson925@reddit
Not a trucker or at a truck stop, but the last place I either say had parking lot cameras. They said if something happens, they can't show/give us the footage, but if a police report is filed and requires the footage, they'll give it to the cops
Immediate_Regular@reddit
Apropos of nothing but did you know that EMP devices are incredibly cheap and easy to make? Do with this what you will.
Tallerthenmost@reddit
I heard there is 5 pounds of copper, and 3 grams of gold in each flock camera "pass it on"
Megalodon7770@reddit
Nothing to worry mega carriers super space truckers will run those things over🤣🤣🤣🤣
chicopepsi@reddit
That’s a good thing I guess. Maybe we stop throwing trash everywhere
teachthisdognewtrick@reddit
They aren’t. They are a constitutional end run. Private company acquires the data and sells it to the government and data brokers. Law enforcement would need a warrant to look at the data if it was acquired by government owned cameras.
Rough-Method8876@reddit
Which is why this is SUCH bullshirt. They’re evading the warrant process completely.
rsqx@reddit
i like to swing a duster broom around that area sometimes.
Semi__Competent@reddit
Just a matter of time before it’s run over anyway lol
ohhrangejuice@reddit
Theres 6 in my area.
WolvTheHero@reddit
There are 500 in my county. Yay.
martin_antonius@reddit
TEAR THEM ALL DOWN INVASION OF PRIVACY!!!
oingapogo@reddit
Huh. That pole looks pretty flimsy.
possibly_lost45@reddit
Flip flop white Volvo mafia will have this down in a week.
absent-chaos@reddit
You know it’s a shame my truck doesn’t have back up cameras and I can’t see oh idk a camera behind me 😅
Mechanik_J@reddit
I like the flock cameras, cause I don't trust any of you or the public.
Especially when the report came out about some of yall being serial killers... ( https://youtu.be/TaHgvDZ7A2g?si=qsXGg58i4qeSulcj )
Joe2x4@reddit
So you trust the government more? The one filled with the pet pedos of Billionares? Remember when you talk about the “public” you’re included in that not the oligarchs behind this push.
Mechanik_J@reddit
I'm more worried about a truck driver or 4wheeler in not that good of a mental state with rage issue...
https://youtu.be/gwBSKCu_y0U?si=Mm3bJEEAEsZmvAmy
Joe2x4@reddit
What if they decide it’s you with not that good of a mental state or that you have a rage issue?
Mechanik_J@reddit
C'est la vie
MuphDiesel@reddit
Still not giving a fuck
moderndaymedic@reddit
Good! Hopefully it's actually working.
pingus3233@reddit
Working for what? Warrantless domestic surveillance of innocent civilians as a slipshod workaround of the 4th Amendment?
This is not a one-off camera, it's part of a vast national surveillance network. Everybody with a functional brain in their skull should be livid about this.
PrivatePilot9@reddit
Problem you have in the USA is that a not insignificant portion of the same people who yell loudest about their rights and freedoms are ok or they’re trampled for those /other/ people.
anxious_polarbear@reddit
We call those "Republicans."
Dragex11@reddit
Really? I call them Republican and Democratic and a lot of moderates and small parties, too.
gettinchanged@reddit
What about the phones we’re holding with multiple cameras built into them?
pingus3233@reddit
That's a different problem with Google and Meta collecting data from phones to train their AI models, and from the idiots who post everything online, but as of now they're not *directly* linked to freely handing over data to government agencies like Flock is. "Directly" as in literally: Flock cameras are installed by local and state government agencies and the nationwide data collected are retrievable by law enforcement without a warrant.
AtticusDutch@reddit
Tiktok used to give over the data they collected to the Chinese government
pingus3233@reddit
Yeah that's a big reason why TikTok was banned from gov't devices under the "No TikTok on Government Devices Act" and why the company was forced to separate from ByteDance for operation in The United States.
Gonzotrucker1@reddit
Get a lawyer and sue them.
kickniteasy@reddit
See also this woman wrongly arrested because of the system
Nearby_Ad6870@reddit (OP)
The cameras working
kanethegod19@reddit
Oh yeah, ill gladly take this shit down
dadbodsupreme@reddit
Apropos of nothing, I wo der if a strong laser can burn out the sensors of cameras...hm...
Nero-Danteson@reddit
Yeah. The camera's are normal enough
chargedmemery@reddit
Idk why everyone's getting so heated. You go into any convenience store, there's cameras. Every major super market has cameras, every convenience store has cameras. This is the first time I'm seeing people get buttmad about something that's already massively prevalent.
Lpgasman1@reddit
Pee taker videos coming soon