4080 vs 5070 vs 5070 ti
Posted by WholeIntention8022@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 139 comments
Hello guys, it's my first time building a PC. want your pro suggestion on which GPU should I choose (pls don't recommend RX, my game is Nvidia preferred)
the choice are:
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4080 - 750$ , used, the description said it's still good and working like normal, with a warranty of 1 year
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5070 - 650$, brand new
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5070 ti - 950$, brand new
I will play on oled 1440p paired with 7800x3d, my games are like monster hunter wilds, wuthering waves.
Appreciate the suggestions guys!
LumpyOctopus007@reddit
Whatever is cheaper
a_rogue_planet@reddit
You're right to steer clear of AMD GPUs. I've been building game machines for 25 years and I've never once used an AMD GPU. I never will until they actually get serious about competing. When you buy an nVidia card, you know it's going to work and have good support for a pretty long time.
imakeshituplmao@reddit
That's one of the dumber things I've read today.
Muah_dib@reddit
Well, yours is even more stupid. AMD doesn't innovate, it copies what Nvidia does. AMD drivers are ALWAYS less optimized and buggier than Nvidia's... You like AMD, good for you. You want to defend AMD no matter what, have fun, but don't bother us.
Vektor29A@reddit
You're talking about AMD like AMD = Radeon. AMD only started making Radeons when they bought ATI in 2006. ATI and Nvidia were neck and neck in the late 90's through the early 2000's.
AMD as a company has always been focused on efficiency, and currently they are the leader in CPU's. "Innovation" in engineering doesn't just mean novel features.
Muah_dib@reddit
I used an ATI Radeon from 2004 to 2007, and even then it was known for being less powerful in games than its Nvidia competitor, but for productivity it was really good. I didn't say that AMD has always been a graphics card manufacturer, and since going back in time doesn't make sense when we're talking about current products, I don't really see the connection... Regarding CPUs (since you brought it up), AMD is doing some great work (even though I preferred an Ultra 7 265k to an X3D, but that's just my personal preference), but they're not the leader in anything (if they continue on their current path, that will surely happen, and I appreciate seeing these companies compete; it stimulates research in hardware and software engineering). Look at their market share: Desktop: AMD ~36.4% (a significant increase, +~9.5 points vs. Q4 2024), Intel ~63.6%. Mobile/Laptop: AMD ~26%, Intel (~74%). Servers: AMD ~28.8% by volume (nearly 41% by revenue, thanks to higher ASPs with EPYC), Intel ~71% by volume. Where do you see that they are the leader?
Vektor29A@reddit
Yes, this was the point that Nvidia pulled out ahead consistently, and AMD bought ATI. That's why I said "late 90's through the early 2000's".
You brought up going back in time, to start with, saying "I've been building game machines for 25 years and I've never once used an AMD GPU". I'm pointing out that AMD has only been making GPU's for 20 years, and before that, when they were made by ATI, they were extremely competitive with Nvidia for top-end GPU's. I'm also pointing out that AMD as a whole has always been efficiency-focused, where they absolutely have been innovative.
You were talking about innovation, and now you're switching to pure market share. But if you do want to talk about market share, AMD's is growing, Intel's is falling.
Intranetusa@reddit
AMD GPUs were also ahead and then tied around 2010-2012 with the HD5000 to HD7000 series.
The GTX480 was a loud toaster oven while the HD5970 was faster, used way less electricity, and performed much better.
I remember getting a 5870 over the GTX480 because it was way cheaper, used half the electricity, and still got more fps in some games like Crysis despite being worse on average overall. Then it was neck and neck in performance and power efficency with the HD7000 series vs GTX700 series.
a_rogue_planet@reddit
Hey, dumbass. You do realize that standard X CPUs generally outperform X3D chips where the cache is basically irrelevant, don't you? Pretty much all the X chips clock faster. My 9900X is an objectively faster chip than the X3D version where SIMD operations aren't the only priority.
Muah_dib@reddit
The user who made this post is talking about a PC for video games. X3D processors are specifically designed for gaming; that's the purpose of 3D V-cache. We don't care if you know how to do a Google search to show off by replying to a comment that has nothing to do with the discussion between two users...
a_rogue_planet@reddit
Google search? Uh, no. I built a work focused machine for myself and a game machine for my daughter. My machine runs a 9900X and her machine runs a 7600X3D. Mine runs a 5070Ti and hers a 5070. Her machine is somewhat better at cranking out game frames than mine, but mine absolutely crushes it by being more than twice as fast at basically anything that isn't drawing game frames. I understand that value of an X3D chip, and it is useful, but all are a very poor general value except the 7600X3D. That's just an insanely good value.
Intranetusa@reddit
Nvidia generally has the lead now but AMD GPUs were more innovative and better back in 2010-2012. Remember the toaster oven GTX480? The AMD HD5970 was way more powerful and used significantly less power. I remember getting a 5870 because it was much cheaper, used half the power, AND ran better in Crysis compared to the GTX480.
So the guy who never buys AMD skipped out on the generations when AMD was superior.
That is historically/usually true, but not for the current vibecoded RTX5000 series lol. Nvidia had like half a dozen driver recalls already for the RTX5000 series.
imakeshituplmao@reddit
Im not a stupid fanboi like u. I like both nvidia n amd if their shit is good
Darth_Murcielago@reddit
As a nvidia user i must disagree with the driver part... vibecoding has become a real nvidia problem and AMD may be more reliable in terms of drivers at this point (we dont have to talk about the 12vhpwr situation btw because that shid makes modern nvidia stuff quite risky) i personally really consider a 9070xt right now but some of the productivity stuff has me concerned.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit
5070 ti, brand new and newest
WholeIntention8022@reddit (OP)
i think the performance is the same as 4080 no? and the price is pretty low...
hjshoon@reddit
i think it's closer to 4080 Super but newer 50 series support newer feature such as MFG up to 6x. that's just an example and you may not use it but the chance of it supporting newer feature in future is higher than 4080
Iam_just-me@reddit
Vero,ma il mfgx6 fa pesantemente schifo
HPowner0@reddit
This is somewhat misleading. 4080 Super and 4080 have virtually the same performance (+/- 2%). Both have roughly the same performance as a 5070 Ti. The 4080 and 4080s have slightly more raw power while the 5070 Ti has newer features, as you've noted.
4080 Super was released as a more cost-effective counterpart to the 4080 but it did not improve much in performance.
semidegenerate@reddit
2% performance difference. The S model had a few more cores enabled, and slightly faster VRAM. You can easily OC the 4080 VRAM to 4080S levels, though.
On the other hand, Nvidia cheaped out on power delivery for the S model, as a cost saving measure. I'm not sure how the AIB partners handled power delivery, though.
psimwork@reddit
Yep. It was basically an answer to Nvidia's stance of them not liking to ever do price drops (the last actual MSRP drop I can remember them doing was on the 1080, 1070, and 1060 when they released the 1070 Ti).
So because they don't want to do a price drop, they just released the "4080 Super" with a lower MSRP.
Dumbidiot1424@reddit
Some 5070 Ti's also overclock very easily and you can get way better performance than 4080s from them without even really killing the life time of it either.
IrrationalRetard@reddit
Yup got +10% with basically no effort required.
ProfSnipe@reddit
The 50 series really take well to overclock. I played around in msi afterburner and i could easily maintain 3.3ghz on my 5080 this was achieved with +420 MHz on the core. And I ran furmark and steel nomad and it was rock solid.
Swaggerlilyjohnson@reddit
Definitely get the 4080.
People really overrate having a new GPU or warranty.If you get a GPU and it functions perfectly for the first few days it is very likely to last over 10 years without issues (maybe a fan goes but that is unlikely and cheap and easy to fix).
If you don't believe me look at margins on electronics extended warranties. If you ever wondered why all the sales people at microcenter are trying to sell you extended warranties it's because electronics are absurdly reliable so those warranties never get used or at worst usually a 5$ fan replacement so they make tons of profit on those.
They actually make more profit on those 40-50$ warranties on the graphics cards then they do on the 1000 dollar graphics cards themselves (seriously).
Autpcorrectbpt@reddit
You can’t fault anyone for wanting to have warranty on something that costs $1000. I personally went with used for years until now but they were all budget GPUs, I wouldn’t risk throwing $1000 down the drain even if the chance of failure was 0.1%
Lil_Hater112@reddit
being downvotted for saying you prefer having warranty on an electrical equipment that costs 1000$ it's crazy xD . The logic of warranty is a scam it s like saying " well, i would rather save one-2 days of work than heave peace of mind for 3 years" I dont understand it.
I will literally sell my gpu when out of warranty bcs my gpu broke down after warranty expired due to transport sagging. was that My fault? yes. But I guarantee i would ve gotten it replaced for free under warranty
Lil_Hater112@reddit
Bro, not everyone has controlled environment. You can get it damaged in multiple ways, bad transport, sagging, bad psu. Many people love having warranty for 10-20% more and know it s safe for 3 years
Swaggerlilyjohnson@reddit
Most electronics warranties don't even cover the things you are describing.
If your PSU failed (Itself a very rare scenario) you may practically be able to get a warranty claim on your graphics card as long as it isn't obviously damaged by the PSU but basically all of them exclude physical damage or damage caused by other part failures.
And if it is damaged being shipped to you the shipping insurance will cover it not the insurance on the GPU.
Again people can buy whatever they want. I was just saying it doesn't make financial sense and those policies are mostly sold to people who don't understand how reliable electronics are, don't understand the product already comes included with a warranty or misunderstand what the policy actually covers or how it functions (Most people don't realize they are usually concurrent warranties meaning they only cover the same window that factory warranty covers or at best 1 additional year)
You are essentially paying 40-50$ (Depends on the gpu or the store but it's usually like 5% of price which is high) to get your RMA done in a day instead of waiting for the Manufacturer to process it. Because that is what they are doing. They take the failed gpu immediately give you a new one and send the broken one to be repaired by the manufacturer (Because it has it's own warranty). Even if every gpu they sold failed they would still make money. If none of them fail they make essentially 100% margins on 5% of the gpu price.
So you might as well be prepaying for expedited shipping and an easier RMA before you even know if you will need one on an extremely reliable product (And only for 2-3 years generally)
hunterczech@reddit
But you get MFG which in itself is worth 200$ imo + you get warranty.
PhantomLimb06@reddit
mfg isnt worth 1 dollar its just a way to cover up bad game optimization
AnywhereCurrent1247@reddit
like it or not,playing cyberpunk ray tracing ultra with 200 fps,fake frames or not,is very attractive to a lot of customers
PhantomLimb06@reddit
playing cp2077 with rt ultra or path tracing with 200fps sounds really good, but the problem is about frame gen if the fps isnt above 30fps the game feels slow not to mention the delay
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit
How to achieve 200 fps with no latency?
hunterczech@reddit
Exactly. Path tracing at 200fps+ is the future, whether people like it or not.
hunterczech@reddit
It was not meant to be cover up..but devs decided to make it that way.. you can't blame the technology for that.
PhantomLimb06@reddit
nvidia markets these features as a requirement for high end settings (or in some cases games make it a requirement just to play the game with decent fps) and builds their hardware around ai upscaling instead of raw rasterization performance, they r effectively telling the devs that they dont need to optimize for native rendering anymore
u can blame the technologys implementation though, frame gen requires a solid base frame rate to feel good, by allowing these devs to use it as a fix for a game that barely hits 30fps natively, the tech actually delivers a worse experience than if the game were just properly optimized to begin with...
BakoLord@reddit
Yeah, but do you want to get gpu that is in older generation? 50 series are more future proof.
sleep_eat_recycle@reddit
4080 is 200 USD less, is this 200 USD significant to you like you need to save another month? I bought 5070ti last week, and I was planned to only buy 5070 in the beginning because I don't have game that I am addicted to, however I need 4K because I am sick of looking at pixel, I play crimson desert everything 4k ultra frame gen 2, only used 8gb vram, so even 5070 is sufficient.
Puzzleheaded-West159@reddit
Yea performance is the same.
but it is a Gen 5 GPU [5070ti] compared to gen 4 for 4080 - so it is a lot better for future proofing, also non used.
Redgfxr@reddit
Muah_dib@reddit
I love how the user specifies they don't want an AMD GPU, but AMD fanboys can't help but spam about their RX 9070 XT as if it's the holy grail. It's pathetic; it really seems like they're trying to justify their own purchase. >< It's hilarious.
dorting@reddit
It's a great GPU for sure, you can't really unsee it. But whatever everyone can do what they want with their money
Lil_Hater112@reddit
If u take dlss framegen and path tracing and ray tracing into that price/performance, 9070xt doesnt look as good anymore
MarxistMan13@reddit
But those things are optional, and not everyone is going to even play games where they are relevant features.
As always, know your own habits and how they take advantage of hardware and features. I saved $150 going 9070XT over 5070ti because for my games, they're essentially the same.
OP wants Nvidia. Fair enough.
Lil_Hater112@reddit
DLSS is relevant in any game these days, framegen is up to individual taste and path tracing will be supported more and more in the future. You also need framegen at this budget to properly play path tracing anyway.
So if OP wants nvidia, i assume they want the software tech as well , not just the drivers being called nvidia. So 5070ti is a no brainer vs 9070xt for op
MarxistMan13@reddit
It really isn't. WoW for example is still on DLSS 3. It's also not even necessary, since the game is CPU bound a majority of the time. You can actually slightly reduce your framerate with DLSS enabled, since it has some minor overhead.
Again, know your games and use cases. What you need isn't the same as what I need.
Lil_Hater112@reddit
"it really isnt" and showing a cherry picked example of an mmo is not the argument you think it is. Most titles that are graphically heavy will use DLSS. Most games that arent graphically heavy wont need either dlss or framegen or path tracing. Having DLSS is just a win , it doesnt matter if one single game doesnt need it, you might want to play Pragmata randomly as a WoW user and you will enjoy Path Tracing DLSS and Framgen in that game
MarxistMan13@reddit
For a 3rd time, know your games and how they use the hardware and features. Like I said, I really have no use for most of Nvidia's features. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
I'm not advocating for OP to buy a 9070XT. They said they want Nvidia, so they should buy Nvidia. But it isn't helpful to go "BUT WHAT IF YOU WANT TO BLAH BLAH? YOU NEED NVIDIA".
Know your use cases. I cannot stress it enough.
Goddemmitt@reddit
2020 called, they want their take back.
Framed-Photo@reddit
Those techs were utterly worthless (or non-existent) in 2020. If anything they're FAR more important now, and they're things that subs like r/radeon talk about constantly. A GPU not supporting them as well as the competition is a major issue now.
24kCookie@reddit
oh nvidia users glazing thier holy grail only way they can justify their price. So also buy apple because you like when software carries.
Vektor29A@reddit
Right tool for the right job. Radeons are superior in $/FPS to a degree, until you get to certain games that don't support FSR as well as DLSS, and/or want to do path tracing.
ProfessionalRandom21@reddit
You can use optiscaler so basically every game support fsr4 except vulkan game.
Can 5070ti even do path tracing? I feel like there is like less than 10 game use it, and most is way too heavy to run on 5070ti anyway or atleast worth the hit.
Imo, there are not very big advantages, but running 70 to 100 watt less is
Vektor29A@reddit
Optiscaler is a workaround mod that has to be configured, and it still doesn't work on every game. People like OP want the best option for their games, and for those games, it's DLSS. It's not surprising that people don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a product and then have to have a hassle to make it work the way they want.
Yes. It can run games with path tracing in 1440p at 40+ FPS without DLSS. With DLSS it can run at much higher FPS.
You would definitely be in the minority caring about the wattage you are using while playing games more than how the games look.
Lil_Hater112@reddit
AMD users : if you spend 150-200$ less, you get the option to fiddle with optiscaler in every game, u get a shitty framegen, but who uses anyway, idc about more W consumed which over time probably pays itself the difference, path tracing is such a scam , you cant even play it without a 5090
Me with 5070ti: I guess im just hallucinating enjoying dlss, multiframegen and path tracing seamlessly if AMD users say so
Inner-Ear@reddit
Been running Cyberpunk in path tracing on a 5070 (non-Ti) at 1440p and it has been amazing.
obstan@reddit
path tracing is still in its developmental stage and if you asked this like 6 months ago, I feel like the answer would have been different. But most newly released games I played with path tracing have run extremely well with huge visual experience boost. RE9 and pragmata both run path tracing on 5070 ti very well and I'm sure more developers will have it run fluidly as time goes on.
Muah_dib@reddit
Yes, it's a good GPU, even excellent, but who cares? Everyone has the right to choose without being harassed by a bunch of crazy people addicted to a brand that manufactures computer components. Reddit is just incredible for that...
EffiCiT@reddit
Then maybe they shouldn't ask on reddit? If people think you are making a dumb choice then they are well within THEIR rights to point that out.
fpsfreak@reddit
9070XT is pathetic?
Muah_dib@reddit
No, the fanboys are.
imakeshituplmao@reddit
U sound like a fanboi urself for defending posts who trashes amd and says they havent used amd in 25 years
fpsfreak@reddit
Ah, copy.
24kCookie@reddit
and nvidia users talk about their dlss as if it was holy grail crazy level apple magic.
Pipst7r@reddit
I have the 5070 ti and it’s amazing imo.
Great_Knee3116@reddit
Getting a used gpu is a bad idea, you have no idea if this guy was mining crypto on it. You have no way of verifying the health of it. Just buy the 5070ti
Toom3232@reddit
I have a 5070ti setup and a 5070 set up. If your gaming 1440p I would go 5070. You’ll be good with that cpu combo. You can sell and upgrade in a couple years when prices are better. If money no option than 5070ti but you’ll be very happy with a 5070.
MammothFruit6398@reddit
if i had to pick one of these i would get the 4080. all those prices are atrocious though.
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
If that 4080 is fine it's the best option by a long shot
I have a 5070 ti and would've easily have sacrificed mfg for 200 bucks....especially for 1440p
MFG over x3 looks like ass
Crowley120@reddit
Agreed, my buddy paid 1000 for his 5070 ti and I paid 700 for my 4080 and we have single digit fps difference cause he refuses to use MFG above x2
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
I got lucky and MCed a 5070 ti for 809...one of those dual boot zotacs...but ffs if I found a 4080 for 680 and lower.if be going with that...
The 5xxx series has hardware flip metering for mfg and that's really it
Crowley120@reddit
You got that one for a pretty good deal tho
Framed-Photo@reddit
If you're comfortable buying used then the 4080 is the best deal here, coming from a 5070ti user.
The main reasons to go 5070ti are that it's going to get slightly newer features, slightly longer driver support, use a decent bit less power under load, and you're getting a modern warranty or return policy if you don't like it. Used cards over $500 are a bit risky imo, I'd rather push you towards like, a used 4070 super or a used 3080 if the 5070 was already in consideration.
Lucario-Mega@reddit
4080 is good for its prize imo
Jonojonojonojono@reddit
4080 team for that price, hard to beat currently and the cons are not bad compare to the uploft the 5070ti gets you for a higher price, might could afford a ram or ssd upgrade with the savings
Silly-Conference-627@reddit
In your mentioned use case, nvidia cards have no extra advantages whatsoever.
They excell in production uses thanks to CUDA cores and have a tad better upscaling tech (AMD's new FSR 4.1 is a major step up from previous versions so the main thing in favour of DLSS is it being more universally suported). The differences in pathtracing are there, but they aren't groundbreaking like they used to be.
If your only use is gaming, the only criterium that matters when choosing between a 9070 XT and 5070Ti is price.
Cute_Customer420@reddit
Some newer titles don't even support path tracing on AMD gpus, like Re9 or Pragmata. This is becoming more and more common. Witcher 4 will use fully path traced lighting, for example.
I don't see how its ever worth it to buy AMD.
Intranetusa@reddit
It is mind boggling RE9 doesn't support Path Tracing with AMD cards when the game itself heavily favors AMD (eg. The 9070 regular getting way more fps than the similarly priced 5070 regular) and Optiscaler modders managed to enable path tracing for AMD cards in the game. I wonder who dropped the ball here...
Healthy-Tale7866@reddit
rt difference up to 25%, pt difference up to 50%, more vram usage (up to 3gb+ in mafia: the old country, compared to 5070ti), more watt usage, worse fg (frame pacing), have to use 3rd party like optiscaler
BurritoSupreeeme@reddit
"Oh no, my free VRAM is getting allocated, this sucks"
Healthy-Tale7866@reddit
if your allocated is higher it almost always means your used is higher, dumbass, especially comaring the same programs running, even the console ports (made for amd) show amd using more vram
https://youtu.be/mVS3fNErthY
Intranetusa@reddit
For the game that OP mentioned (Monster Hunter Wilds), it's more like a \~3-10% difference for the 9070XT vs 5070 Ti with Ray Tracing on depending on the resolution. Ray tracing isn't much of an advantage for Nvidia anymore, but the Path Tracing is definitely still an Nvidia advantage.
At MSRP the 5070 Ti seems to be a slightly a better deal than the 9070XT if you have the money and a decent ATX 3 PSU where you don't need 12vhpwr adapters.
If OP was considering the 5070 regular vs the 9070 regular, then at MSRP (roughly similar prices) then the 9070 would be better due to the extra VRAM difference, more power/rasterization, no VRM heat or adapter issues, etc. (and comparable or slightly better RT and similar power consumption).
moedex@reddit
Acquire the RTX 4080. Its 16GB VRAM and raw power vastly outperform the 5070 Ti for 1440p OLED gaming. The $750 price point represents optimal value. The included warranty mitigates used hardware risks. The 5070 cards cannot match this throughput.
Equivalent-Load-9158@reddit
If you trust the 4080 seller and it looks good then I'd consider it. Otherwise go with the 5070 Ti.
DistantRavioli@reddit
I recently went with the 5070 for ~600 because the price step up to the 5070 ti is utterly absurd and not worth it. I think a 5070 is more than enough for 1440p. Hell, it's enough for 4k for me.
HayesBrewery@reddit
I have a 5070ti and it's amazing. At $950 it's not as good a value, but you will still get super for the latest DLSS and frame gen.
If budget is a concern the 4080, if $200 more isn't a problem just get the 5070 to.
ThatPerfectCule@reddit
The best deal would be 4080 at 750, it matches with the 5070 ti in many cases and outclasses the 5070 in addition to VRAM, which is important for new releases. 5070 only makes sense if you absolutely need something new and cheaper. While the 5070 ti is good, it's not worth paying an extra 200 dollars for compared to the 4080. Just ensure that you have a verified 4080 and good temperatures.
vMiDNiTEv@reddit
i’m pretty sure the 4080 has more raw power than the 5080, but the 5080 has newer features, just like the 5070ti, so for future proofing probably the 5070ti, 4080 if you don’t care about features, i wouldn’t go 5070 personally
awdrifter@reddit
Unless you need MFG (multi-frame gen), the RTX 4080 is the best value here.
Redgfxr@reddit
Ordinary-Meaning-61@reddit
A 4080 for $750 is highly suspicious. Very good price if it's real though.
Hemish_21@reddit
Not really? I was able to get a 4080 for $650. $750 seems to be the average used price of those.
WholeIntention8022@reddit (OP)
if it is legit, should I go for the 4080?
Ordinary-Meaning-61@reddit
Performance is about equal to 5070 ti. Only difference would be DLSS 4. Personally, I hate frame gen, so I would just go for the cheaper option.
tO_ott@reddit
The 5070 ti is more on par with the 4080 Super, but that’s just a small upgrade over the bog standard 4080. Still worth noting, though.
Have you used frame generation since the 5000 series card came out? It’s come quite a long away. Dynamic frame generation is exclusive to the 5000 series cards and is quite fantastic.
Ordinary-Meaning-61@reddit
There's a 3% uplift between a 4080 and 4080 Super. The only reason the Super was even relevant was because they (briefly) dropped the MSRP by $200. I consider anything within a 10% range as "equal".
And yes, I've tried frame gen many a time on my 40 series card. I typically play at 4k 60fps on high settings. I play more atmospheric games and RPGs, so I prefer better graphics over smoother framerate. I dislike the distortions caused by frame gen, particularly with patterns like chainlink fences or tall grass, or weird light anomalies. Most people probably don't care, but I notice these things. If I can't hit at least 60fps I'd rather downscale to 1440p than use frame gen. To each their own.
tO_ott@reddit
I specifically mentioned that it was just a marginal upgrade. By not stating that it’s on par with the better product, you’re diminishing the quality of one.
I also pointedly referenced dynamic frame generation, which is exclusive to the 5 series cards. Your experience with older software baked into older hardware doesn’t give you much insight into newer emerging technologies.
I’ll have to take a look at some fences next time I play something, but from my own experience with 2x dynamic frame generation, all I’ve noticed is ghosting and it’s not even consistent.
The key part of dynamic frame generation is that it will be disabled until you cannot hit the targeted fps. It wont even be on most of the time if your hardware is powerful enough.
We’re at a point in gpu development where it’s clear they’re trying to use software gimmicks to make up for lazy development. It’s cyclical— the software just enables shitty development cycles.
Crowley120@reddit
If the 4080 is legit I’d say get it, I also found a lucky listing for a 4080 for 700$ that ended up being legit and me and my buddy who has a 5070 ti are like single digit fps apart in all our games when we’re both overclocked. 4080 also handles ray tracing slightly better because it is a slight stronger card overall 5070 ti has multi frame gen, better over clocking and newer architecture. If future proofing and getting maybe 10 fps more at the very max normally and then being able to use frame gen for ai frames matters to you then go with the 5070 TI, I feel like the x2 frame gen is the sweet spot though anything above that makes games feel weird to me after trying it on my buddy’s set up
SeparateMouse7915@reddit
personally I say yes,
prank_mark@reddit
It's not really. That's more than what a brand new 9070 XT costs.
Ordinary-Meaning-61@reddit
OP literally said no AMD. Also, aren't 9070 XTs going for $740 right now?
prank_mark@reddit
My main point was that $750 for a 4080 isn't a suspicious price because the 9070XT has the same performance for an even lower price, and that's a new card with warranty. So if anything $750 for a 4080 is too much.
Ordinary-Meaning-61@reddit
Lol, lower price. I cannot even buy lunch for $10 my man. Also I said suspicious because used 4080/4080 supers are going for ~$1000. Low price like that usually means you're getting rocks in the mail or gpu with a missing core.
checko50@reddit
I got the 5070 at walmart for like 500. I think its at 600 now.
Its paired with a 7800x3d on 1440 and looks great.
Archer_Gaming00@reddit
5070 Ti
beirch@reddit
Personally I'd get the 4080, but I'm just a huge sucker for a good deal.
Super_swagaxe92@reddit
Brooo, big monster hunter fan also, I am about to get into pc gaming myself and have already decided 5079ti plus ryzen 7 7800x3d, this should be at least good enough for an unoptimized game like wilds lol
dorting@reddit
4080
CH0KEONTH4T@reddit
4080, its a strong card i have experience with it, didnt let me down yet. Very attractive price too
Lonely_Platform7702@reddit
I would save the money and get the 4080, but I'd try to talk it down to 700. The 5070Ti has a ton of overclock headroom making it effectively 10-15% faster than a 4080 once you overclock it.
Crowley120@reddit
True, the 4080 can be overclocked too though so it’s more like a single digit differences overall
Seulgi_0318@reddit
I'd go with the 5070 Ti.Yeah it's more expensive, but you're getting newer architecture, better efficiency, and longer-term support
Own-Indication5620@reddit
5070 all u need.
Louvatar@reddit
9070 XT
StrifeTribal@reddit
This is my choice too!
Louvatar@reddit
It's great for playing!
AdstaOCE@reddit
9070XT is the best option. Why do you prefer Nvidia?
WholeIntention8022@reddit (OP)
optimized in the most games I play
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
monster hunter wilds is optimized like shit on every PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUI6YoQaCIo
The 9070 XT is also really not that far behind a 5070ti in that game specifically.
WholeIntention8022@reddit (OP)
i also said wuthering waves, it have many problem with RX..
TheWaterBug@reddit
Yeah, I play that too and have a 7800XT. Definitely feeling those problems
AdstaOCE@reddit
There is no issue with AMD in that regard.
MrFuNkiEMaN@reddit
I have an 9060XT and if i’m very honest the drivers are a nightmare, before that I had a Rtx 2060 and never had an issue. Maybe that is what he is referring to? The performance is good on the 9060XT, I am very happy with that, but the drivers are not that stable.
Intranetusa@reddit
I have an RX9070 and a RTX5070 and I have no issues with the 9070 drivers whatsoever. I had issues where I had to roll back 5070 drivers because Nvidia kept having to recall their 5000 series drivers.
AdstaOCE@reddit
What issues are you having? If anything AMD is much more stable this generation.
MrFuNkiEMaN@reddit
I think mostly game crashes and that a driver timeout had occurred, then I had to roll back to previous driver versions and look for the most stable one. I think it would work better if all the drivers were stable.
AdstaOCE@reddit
They are all largely stable. Apart from a couple minor issues, meanwhile Nvidia has had a lot of major issues. Make sure it's not something else causing it, I had timeouts that were my igpu being too undervolted (-30 pbo) for example.
Lord_Hector_Bear@reddit
I would go with 4080
ResponseOrnery775@reddit
If you don’t mind dlss then choose the 5070, if you only want to play native pick the 5070 ti. (Though the 5070 is also good at native for the games you play)
Syraion@reddit
Just got 5070 ti. Nothing to complain, more performance than u even need, everything maxed out in Wuwa and it runs smooth as it gets!
Intranetusa@reddit
>want your pro suggestion on which GPU should I choose (pls don't recommend RX, my game is Nvidia preferred)
>my games are like monster hunter wilds, wuthering waves.
Nvidia preferred according to who/what?
Monster Hunter Wilds significantly favors AMD. The 9070 beats the 5070 by almost 30%. The 9070XT comes within 10% and 3-5% of the 5070 Ti at 4k and 1440p with Ray Tracing at high + ultra settings.
https://youtu.be/ummF3WRn_Iw?t=779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUI6YoQaCIo
Zangetsu_Storm@reddit
If you are on oled 1440p you have the money get 5070ti
if you want to save 200 dollars go for 4080. and willing to take the risk of it failing after 1 yr.
Don't even consider 5070 when you have these 2 in possibility also bc 12gb on 1440p oled is quite limiting because if you are using oled I would believe you want atleast play on relatively higher graphic settings.
Opening_Evidence6360@reddit
I got the 5070, and for 1440p its amazing; for 4k its okay. In hindsight I wish I went up a tier to the 5070 ti at least. My vote is the 5070 ti or 4080.
Healthy-Tale7866@reddit
depends on what models are 4080 and 5070ti, if 5070ti is smth like Gigabyte Gaming oc, then 5070ti is worth it, you will most likely be able to do +3k mem, +375 core (450 crash), 350watts and 1.065v, which is basically 5080 stock in perf
CZsea@reddit
4080 seem fishy for this price, I would want to get that myself if it's legit.
Numerous-Loan-8008@reddit
If you know it still works, the 4080
Otherwise, flip a quarter?
VaeVictius@reddit
what is your monitor’s refresh rate? if >240hz, i recommend going 5070/5070 ti for MFG
if 144/165hz, can go with 4080 with x2 fg is USUALLY sufficient
do you play open world or vram intensive titles/looking to play future AAA titles at 1440p? 4080/5070 ti for 16gb vram buffer
Puzzleheaded-West159@reddit
probably 5070 ti
look into 9070xt as well.