I'd wait until that model has been sold here for a while.

I don't like being an early adopter for things like that.

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Dodaddydont@reddit

I think they have been out for quite a while now. Definitely wouldn't be an early adopter at this point

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firesquasher@reddit

Not to play the opposite of this, but why would it being sold here be the problem? Its the #2 selling ev brand globally. I personally dont have the need for an EV, but that makes a statement as to its popularity.

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ehs06702@reddit

Because the infrastructure for charging and repairs need to be built here to make them cost effective for the average consumer.

Potentially, yes. I would need to see how well and how long the cars have performed in cold climates and other extremes.

I would also need to know about parts replacement availability and the time frame. If someone hits my car and knocks off the side-view mirror, how long do I have to wait until it gets replaced?

I would also need to see crash test reporting. I know Canada, Europe, and other regions seem to have good crash test reporting organizations.

BYD only started selling in 2021 or 2022 in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, and Mexico. I am interested in the data.

If BYD and other Chinese makers can prove reliability like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan did over the years, then I certainly would consider buying one.

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Better_Chicken_5184@reddit

They've become very popular where I live, 200 miles above the arctic circle. Their PHEV system is especially popular. They seem to perform very well and the batteries have an 8 year guarantee.

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BullsOnParadeFloats@reddit

You would actually be a latecomer, because the US government bans the sale of them in the country, because "China bad" and domestic companies are wholly incapable of competing with them.

They would have to be hit with a 200% tariff just so domestic companies could compete, because these Chinese companies are selling almost every model for below $20,000. IIRC, they even have a model that comes in below $10,000.

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thatlukeguy@reddit

Yeah, but the way I see it, if they brought over models that they have over there, they are already pretty well tested and you're not an early adopter. Half a billion Chinese people have already early adopted and beta tested a lot of that technology.

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ehs06702@reddit

Eh, I see their point.

I remember when electric cars and hybrids were first going mainstream, and they were struggling to do so because the charging and repair infrastructure wasn't as widespread as it needed to be.

LopsidedCry7692@reddit

No, and they should be banned

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SignificantSmotherer@reddit

No.

Unless we have leadership that is going to prioritize cheap energy, especially electric rates, and EVs are allowed to disconnect fully from Big Brothers tether, there is no reason to buy one from any country.

I paid over $0.70/KWH last month.

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Bay_arean@reddit

In a heartbeat, I'd buy more than one. Even at a 100% tariff. Even if there was no local service or warranty on it.

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OneManShow23@reddit

While I’d rather support American workers by buying US made cars (even those from foreign companies), I’d buy a Chinese EV to hold car companies accountable for overcharging us for cars. Yes, Chinese EV are made artificially cheaper and they’re a form of dumping but car prices have gone up artificially too and it’s time to bring the prices down.

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j7style@reddit

It depends. If tarrifs are going to make it cost 2-3 times as much, then likely never. If its sold at the prices they are paying plus shipping, then it might be the only new vehicle I'll likely ever be able to afford. So yeah, probably.

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Wonder how much it would add to the price to meet U.S. standards?

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Mallthus2@reddit

Virtually nothing for any vehicle that’d have a realistic chance of selling in North America, as those vehicles are already being sold in markets that have similar or higher standards.

For instance, Chinese vehicles being sold today in Mexico either meet Mexico’s NOM-194-SE-2021, the US’ FMVSS, or the UN’s ECE requirements. All of those standards are so close to one another that required changes (at least for EVs) are more about labeling than anything structural or functional.

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You are the person that initiated which was more strict than the other.

unless you think it's more expensive to meet lower safety standards?

That's not how it works. Again, the requirements are just different. Even if they were less strict, it would be very unlikely that every test/requirement would be the same, just with a lower threshold. They would still need to make changes to the vehicle simply because the requirements are different. Each vehicle already has a cost associated with it. Any changes needed to sell in a new market, even with your mythical less strict tests, would add to the cost of those vehicles.

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smcl2k@reddit

You're ignoring the fact that the cars already exist in countries outside of Europe, and have to comply with safety standards in all of them. There's no reason whatsoever that changing a basic car to meet US requirements would cost more than changing it to meet European or UK requirements (which also require it to be adapted to drive on the opposite side of the road).

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clutchthepearls@reddit

I'm not ignoring anything, you just don't understand these concepts.

Further changes add more cost. Those vehicles have already been developed for those markets. That cost is baked into the pricing. Any new changes for new markets adds more cost.

They aren't going to discount their R&D costs from developing models to hit EU requirements from the US market cars. They're going to add the costs of R&D to hit US requirements on top of whatever the cost per unit was already.

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smcl2k@reddit

So they'd apply the European costs to the US, but not spread the US costs across the entire company...?

Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess-@reddit

new american cars are doing this too

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W3inerSchnitze1@reddit

Didn’t say the kill switch was unique, but the blatant lying of how your data is used is my concern.

Also, I will stay with older cars until they just aren’t safe enough. Any car with a constant cellphone signal is used to mine your shit.

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randoaccountdenobz@reddit

Dude if that’s what your concerned about… I don’t know how you’re fine with using Reddit, any Meta platforms, shit even Google…

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DMmeNiceTitties@reddit

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it take a while to go from E to fully charged? I know some EV drivers charge up through the week so they don't have to charge from low to 100%, but I'd rather fill up gas once a week than make multiple stops to charge through the week. Unless if my perception is wrong and super chargers have come a long way. I wouldn't know, that's why I'm asking.

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nzahn1@reddit

Most of the day, most cars are parked for over 12 hours at home and 8 hours at work.

Even at the slowest charger, running off a household outlet, 12 hours of charging at home each night is enough to add 40-50 miles of range.

Most Americans drive between 25-40 miles a day.

So, plugging an EV into a household outlet at night adds enough range to more than cover their drives the next day.

Basically, just like most modern phones last all day, and can get plugged in at night. For most drivers, plugging an EV in at night more than covers their daily drives.

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DMmeNiceTitties@reddit

Ah, okay, thanks for putting me on. I didn't realize you could charge an EV at home with a standard 120V outlet, I thought they had to be 240V with a new outlet installed.

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Ahtnamas555@reddit

It depends. If you trickle charge at home, you just plug the car in when you get home/as needed and it's charged by morning.

If you use a fast charger. 30 minutes to an hour. We used that time to just walk around towns or go get a drink/snack. By the time we needed to stop, I needed to get out and stretch my legs.

My experience is from moving to NZ and buying an EV, the chargers here charger fast until your car hits 80%, then it becomes much slower. We've honestly have only needed to fast charge the car during one trip a couple weekends ago.

My Leaf estimates 172 miles when fully charged and only doing city driving. On our trip that involved highways (though not as fast as American highways, think back road highways) we estimated that we got 118 miles on a full charge. The vehicle is 5 years old.

So the real question is how many miles do you put on your vehicle per day? It's a 15 minute commute to town for us, I can usually do a few trips before I plug it in at 50%. - I don't plug in daily. Plugging in is literally just park near our garage outlet and plug in. Unplug in morning. Takes less than a minute. Way faster than pumping gas.

Other nice things about an EV is you can have it warm itself up while plugged in - so it warm for you in the morning and it doesn't drain battery. Ours was a base model and still came with stuff like a heated steering wheel and heated seats (including the back row) - which I don't usually see in base models. And Leafs are generally considered the cheap EV cars - the one I have was the cheapest EV in my area that was less than 5 years old at the time.

Also you never have to get an oil change. Maintenance wise, you just have tires, windshield washing fluid, window wipers for routine maintenance. Even break pads last way longer because of engine breaking for regen.

Cost for us is significantly cheaper than gas especially with trickle charging. This can vary some by location - how expensive gas is where you live and how expensive electricity is are both factors. It also costs more to fast charge (it was in line with gas prices before they went up recently).

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loweexclamationpoint@reddit

US is a lot bigger than NZ, and a lot of us (maybe 30%?) regularly make road trips with a day of driving 500+ miles, sometimes even on secondary roads. That's where an EV gets a little problematic until we get a better charging network.

My kid & friend are planning a trip in hottest summer from Chicago to New Orleans in friend's Tesla. Will be interesting to see how that goes.

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Ahtnamas555@reddit

I know that, I spent my first 30 years of life in the US.

Many households are 2 car households. Are both vehicles routinely going on road trips? In my experience, usually not. Also based on your estimate - 70% of households do not go on long road trips, so an EV might actually fill most of their needs.

It's also entirely possible to rent a vehicle if these are infrequently road trips.

I will say the NZ charging network is better than the US. Though it is also possible to go on a 500+ mile road trip in NZ. Invercargill to Nelson is 601 miles. Wellington to Kaitaia is 591 miles. Both one of those are one direction.

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t-poke@reddit

My kid & friend are planning a trip in hottest summer from Chicago to New Orleans in friend's Tesla. Will be interesting to see how that goes.

It will go perfectly.

I drove a Tesla from St. Louis to Washington DC in 2020 and STL to Vegas in 2021 and had absolutely zero issues. The charging networks have only gotten better since then, for both Tesla and non-Tesla EVs.

I have an EV6 now and drove STL to Chicago last year. Doing STL to Nashville in two months.

In fact, I would hazard a guess that you won't find a pair of cities in the lower 48 that you cannot do an EV road trip between. You have to start getting way off the beaten path for charging to become a problem. If you're sticking to the interstates, you're fine. Chicago to NOLA is a straight shot down I-55. They will have zero issues charging.

This map is just the Tesla superchargers. There's plenty more chargers from other networks not on that map.

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DMmeNiceTitties@reddit

This is very informative. Between you and u/nzahn1, I've learned something new about EVs that warrants me updating my opinion about them. Appreciate the time you took to write that out, thank you.

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Ahtnamas555@reddit

I've honestly have been very pleasantly surprised with ours.

I will say that it is both the quietest and noisiest car I've ever driven.

No engine noises - running is very quiet.

But because of how quiet it is, they add on noises so pedestrians can hear you when you're backing up. Because if you're outside the vehicle you cannot hear if the vehicle has turned on. So it makes a loud sonar noise when backing up.

And then anytime a sensor triggers it makes noise- like if the bumper is close to something while parking - that can be turned off I think. I've kept it on because when we first got the car, driving on the opposite side of the road was very foreign, so it's nice to have something tell you if you are close to hitting something - just even on the low volume setting, it's very loud. I've just never had a vehicle so umm vocal about being too close to a plant next to a parking space before.

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Crayshack@reddit

Not everyone has options to charge at home and some people road trip as a part of their regular routine. These groups have been lagging behind in terms of EV adoption rates and they will continue to lag so long as public charging infrastructure isn't where it needs to be.

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nzahn1@reddit

I can’t easily charge at home either with a faster L2 charger, but I make it work with a slow L1 charger and an extension cord (properly monitored, gauged, and amp limited). I also benefit from the occasional ability to charge at the office.

Charging at home is definitely the gold standard, and works for many Americans, but even without home charging there are other painless solutions besides waiting in your EV at a supercharger or DCFC station. My personal favorite are L2 chargers at parks/playgrounds and libraries. I’ve got kids and spend hours at these kinds of places. While my kids play, I get a nice steady charge instead of my car’s time being wasted sitting idle.

I’ve had many several hundred mile road trips this year visiting family up and down the east coast, and road trips can be an issue for older EVs like my eGolf that have small batteries and short range. But full honesty: we have an older paid-off ICE that we can use for road trips, and it’s efficient enough it’s about break even in terms of fuel/charging cost per road trip vs an EV. However, we plan on replacing it with an 2nd EV when it dies and the US is at the point in EV battery and fast charging infrastructure that it won’t be a problem taking our next EV on road trips.

Even if I only owned my eGolf, I won’t have any problem using the hundreds of dollars I save in fuel and maintenance costs with EV ownership to rent a long-haul vehicle for road trips as needed. Done that before when we travelled cross country visiting extended family.

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Crayshack@reddit

The problem I run into is that I frequently travel for work, and typically, the destinations I'm going to don't even have outlets for L1 charging. If L2 chargers actually became common at the places I frequent, it would be a different story, but as it is, that's more of a future theoretical than a reality. Now, in part, my experience is shaped by the fact that I'm specifically driving to places with substandard infrastructure, but that means that the charging options I typically see are way worse than what the average Maryland driver might see.

As it is right now, I have a fully paid off ICE and no reason to have 2 vehicles, so I'm not planning to do a trade-in until that ICE starts to hit the age where it has maintenance issues. I've been eyeballing getting an EV for my next vehicle, but I'm just not confident that the infrastructure is there for the kind of driving I do. A coworker of mine actually has an EV and told me that, for the specific work I do, I shouldn't get an EV. Her routine is just going to the office and back home, so that works fine on home charging, but my routine is driving to rural areas throughout the state, and that's a different ball game.

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_Azamat_Bagatov@reddit

Do EVs look cool? Tesla styling has to be ten plus years old at this point and they were goofy looking to begin with imo…

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CinemaSideBySides@reddit

I never thought they looked goofy, but I definitely think they sound goofy. That artificial ghostly noise they make always makes me laugh a little.

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flaveous@reddit

Everyone who's never owned an EV has range anxiety and range hesitation. I owned EVs for 6 years - been on multiple road trips with the kids to the mountains, to the beach, DC to Florida and back multiple times. The nicest part about owning a Tesla on a road trip was that charging time is also time to use the bathroom, grab snacks and stretch or watch a very short show on Netflix if you need to charge all the way up.

Most of the time, you're only doing a 10 minute charge. For daily driving, I plugged in at home, if I even needed to. The commute I had (gym, grocery, kids sports, etc.) I think I needed to charge like once a week.

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One-Scallion-9513@reddit

doesn't change the fact that infrastructure is still awful in many areas. i want an ev but i'd need to wait until charging stations are available in the same way gas stations are

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melodypowers@reddit

I have had my EV since 2017. There have been 2x it was insufficient for my needs. Once I swapped cars with a friend and once I rented a car.

I think of it like the rare times someone in the city might need a truck. Are you really going to get one so that you can move once a decade? Or will you rent a u-haul?

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Ok_Still_3571@reddit

Yes, I understand that. But in many areas of the country, there aren’t many charging stations at hand. In urban areas, it’s good.

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One-Scallion-9513@reddit

yep. i made the trip up to vermont because i lived south of totality and i was grateful i had a full tank and wasn't in an ev.

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FantasticalRose@reddit

That's why we have one EV and one gas car

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This. There isn't even a single charging station in my town, I'm a 15 minute drive to the nearest one, and I live in what is technically a metropolitan area. I'm not ready to spend thousands on an L2 charging station at home, since my electrical box is already full on breakers. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have EV options and an extensive public transport system, but unfortunately that would take massive investments that lacks consumer demand.

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t-poke@reddit

I'm not ready to spend thousands on an L2 charging station at home, since my electrical box is already full on breakers.

I don't trust the Chinese Communist Party, and you only have a successful business in China if you do what the Chinese Communist Party says.

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MonkeyCome@reddit

I work at a waste to energy facility and our big ash conveyor used to have links from China. It was $6 each compared to $40each for an American made link. For the first year I was here we were breaking links and spending hours every shift correcting it. Eventually corporate caved and let us order American links.

In the 1 1/2 years since that change I can count on one hand how many links have broken. Don’t buy shit made out of chinesium.

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triplealpha@reddit

But have you tried Stalinium? ⚒️🚩

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obiworm@reddit

I think there’s a big difference between Chinese manufacturers-for-hire and big names like Huawei and BYD. I’d trust a big international company with a good reputation for quality. I’d still be weary of security and information privacy though.

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I think this is the right take. If you are seeking a deal you are going to get shit quality whether you buy from China or anywhere else. They are meeting a consumer demand. Typically these cheap goods cost more in the long run with maintenance and replacement. If there was no low end market pressure China is more than capable of manufacturing quality products.

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blueponies1@reddit

Yeah, China is capable of making great products. But when your economy is based around having goods that you are selling in bulk to countries across the world, you need things that can be created cheap by cheap labor and materials and still be cheap enough to ship that far and make a profit. It isn’t that everything from China is shit, it’s just they found their bread and butter in quantity over quality with their products.

Think of Turkey in the firearms market compared to German, Italy or the US. Same kind of thing but with large scale manufacturing.

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Retb14@reddit

There was a guy that did an AMA about his work and he mentioned that the majority of the time he has to go to China and personally oversee the quality control because they will skimp on anything they can. Some of the steel parts they had ordered were made with iron instead of steel or the makeup of the steel was so bad that it would have been worse than iron strength wise

If you manage to get good quality control like some bigger companies then they can make good stuff but most of the time they will just ship anything they can get away with

Are they selling well?

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PAXICHEN@reddit

There seem to be quite a few on the road. Though there are plenty of Korean EVs as well. I don’t have sales numbers, just anecdotes - but there are a noticeable number. I see more Chinese EVs than I do any Subaru.

Hey if you want all your financial info out there and someone steal your money and identity, then go for it. I prefer to keep the assessors I’ve earned.

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FantasticalRose@reddit

Look up Cambridge analytica. It's the little information about you that you didn't think mattered that makes a difference

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Aggravating-Title965@reddit

seems like it was used for mostly political persuasion, this guys is talking about car malware lol. What are they going to do? steal your banking info? Turn off the breaks?

so many people think they are so important that China is gonna come over and spy on you specifically haha

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SigglyTiggly@reddit

Why would i want a forgien hostil goverment spying on me

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FantasticalRose@reddit

Track where you're going, Who you know, who you meet with, what you do, What you say in the car? Those are major things. None of that information collected will be secure. So your private life slowly becomes an open book. And yes we are already seeing patented technology where... People can be conveniently steered off the road.

And even if you're nobody.

Cambridge analytica used the small things they knew about people to find who was the most.... Persuadable and are credited for completely swaying the outcome of one the largest elections in the world.

Consumer data is one of the most profitable and valuable markets in existence at the moment for a reason.

The idea that you have nothing to hide only gives more power to these people. And if you think China isn't gunning for the opportunity.... It's already bad enough the changes being made by Oracle and Google along with the massive push to tie your identification to your accounts and your searches.

They’ve already discovered remote access software on Chinese-built cranes in US ports and they’re spending millions to remove it.

In a heartbeat...

If I could get my hands on a Xiaomi SU7 here in the states, I would be happy. Despite them not being very popular here in the US, I have been using Xiaomi phones, robot vacuums, etc. for close to two decades.

I’d absolutely shop them. My decision to own would be based on my confidence in the particular manufacturer and their importer. The lower my confidence, the lower the price would need to be to justify my experimentation.

Only if I still see them on the road after 10 years. No way in hell I'd be the first to own one.

However, my base requirements of "I bought it so it's mine" and "don't f*** spy on me" are not negotiable.

It can have a radio, but not on ISP frequencies, Wi-Fi included.

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Living_Fig_6386@reddit

I would consider it the same way I do for other cars. I set a budget, look what's available, note the models and features, then look at a wide array of reviews of build quality, owner forums, etc. Then I'd test drive. I think last time I bought a car I must have test driven 10 or so cars. I wouldn't count them out, but I probably also would wait until the brand has been in the US for a couple of years to make sure that they are likely to stick around a while.

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NotPoggersDude@reddit

No, I already own a car

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Justin__D@reddit

I seem to be in the minority here, but hell to the yes.

American EVs are overpriced trash. BYD absolutely curb stomps all of them.

I'm hoping my Prius will last me until I have the option to buy one, but if not, my brother (the family car guy) says a Nissan Leaf would be a perfectly respectable backup plan.

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TheMewMaster@reddit

I honestly wouldn't even buy an EV made in America. They don't do so well in North East winters.

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Different_Cherry8326@reddit

I probably wouldn’t since I think the Chinese government subsidizes uncompetitive trade practices (why the US and everyone else worldwide just goes along with it is another question) and encourages rampant IP theft, among other things.

And the price advantage of Chinese EVs, which would be the main selling point, would probably evaporate if they actually came to the US and had to meet US safety standards and consumer expectations. They would end up being $50k and up like (nearly) every other EV.

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zeezle@reddit

And the price advantage of Chinese EVs, which would be the main selling point, would probably evaporate if they actually came to the US and had to meet US safety standards and consumer expectations.

Yeah this is a good point. I was just looking and apparently the BYD Dolphin sells for €34,990 in the EU... (though I'm not sure if that's the MSRP and can be negotiated down) I'm assuming it would sell for a similar price here, so at that point what is the point over a more established brand with established service techs & parts networks like a Subaru or something? Subaru has an EV starting at $35k.

Of course that same point applies to any new brand looking to enter a new regional market, not exclusive to Chinese companies, and many do successfully launch and become popular even without a major price advantage.

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Eubank31@reddit

The US government does plenty of subsidizing for the oil/gas and automobile industries as well

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ImFancyAsFuck@reddit

As long as I could find a local mechanic that worked on it.

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BAMspek@reddit

No. I don’t want an EV and I don’t want a Chinese car.

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NoveltyAccountHater@reddit

I'd consider it based on a few factors:

there's evidence they've stopped the forced labor (of minority groups like Uyghur/Kazakh/Krzgyz/Tibetan) that are being used to make these cars or their parts/raw materials,
its a great price for the features,
compatible with America's fast charging infrastructure,
existing repair infrastructure in my area, and
seems to be reviewed as just as safe/safer than other electric cars.

That said, I sure as shit won't buy a Tesla while Born-into-Apartheid Nazi-Salute Musk still has majority ownership.

Theoretically, I would consider it; but, realistically more likely not because most Chinese cars are a lot different than ones Americans tend to purchase.

For example, the US has a strong preference for big SUVs and trucks with high mileage. Most US and even many foreign brands have significantly scaled back or completely abandoned sedans in the US market.

Also, people keep on complaining about price on the internet but the average selling car price in the US is $50k. The people wanting dirt cheap tiny sedans on the internet is the ultra minority.

Realistically, contrary to what bots are pushing on the internet, Chinese cars would not be a threat to US automakers in the US at the moment. We are a very different consumer market from South America, Asia, and Europe and Australia. Much more affluent and drive bigger cars.

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flp_ndrox@reddit

No. Eff the CCP.

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Astronaut6735@reddit

If I wanted an EV (I don't), I would consider. The Chinese can build good stuff, it's just that most Americans shop for the cheapest price, so companies pay Chinese manufacturers to make things as cheaply as possible.

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Piper-Bob@reddit

No. I don’t trust anything from a country where they intentionally put melamine in baby formula for profit. I’ll buy speakers or similar consumer goods from China but nothing that can put a life at risk.

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Both_Painter_9186@reddit

How many of these fucking posts are we gonna see?

No. EVs are still not there for most consumers. It doesn’t make any financial sense.

Smart_Engine_3331@reddit

Maybe.

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Neverendingwebinar@reddit

I would research a BYD and consider it second year. I also never buy a car on release year. It will have changes made for the US market and I want to be sure it was ready. I also would want some sort of dealer support somewhere.

Dusk_2_Dawn@reddit

Absolutely not.

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Reddituser45005@reddit

Absolutely I've been in multiple BYD vehicles in China and Thailand They are well made and well appointed

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jewboy916@reddit

Because they are already commonly used in pretty much every major market besides the US. Even countries like Brazil and Mexico that also have strong gas company/automaker lobbies.

If BYD, Geely, Jaecoo, etc. start selling EVs in the US it's game over for Tesla.

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Major-Assumption539@reddit

I’m sure they probably do have some good EVs but given how frequently Chinese companies get caught using literal slave labor I wouldn’t be comfortable buying one

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Dudeus-Maximus@reddit

That’s the only way I would consider purchasing an EV at this point. American EVs just aren’t there yet.

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1PumpkinKiing@reddit

Absolutely not!

I used to sell goods from China, and the "quality control" from companies in that country is so bad I can't even think of a word to describe it.

I would have to test every single shipment before even considering selling a single item. This is because you could be working with the same manufacturer for years, ordering the exact same items, and never received a dangerous product. Then you get a shipment of socks that look and smell fine, but after wearing them for 10 minutes your feed turn red, feel like they are on fire, your heart starts pounding in your ears...

Also, I've seen the videos of their EVs catching fire after a very minor accident, or completely spontaneously, when the doors won't unlock, the windows won't roll down, and what's left of the poor family that was inside.

Also, the charging stations for scooters turning into a room full of flames and toxic smoke in seconds, destroying buildings, and commonly trapping people inside who never make it out...

I'm ok with a bit of danger, it makes life interesting. But I am 💯 not ok with gambling my life away on tech that has been proven to cost people their lives time and time again.

I would rather get into a fist fight with a hungry grizzly bear, instead of risking my life by buying one of those death traps.

Man_Cheetah67@reddit

No I wanna buy a Skoda cause I like them

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BenderSimpsons@reddit

Yes. The reason the car companies lobby against them is because it would be a compelling product at a better price and would get adopted quickly by the market

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AshDenver@reddit

No.

I’m old school enough that I prefer things that can be fixed whereas EVs are less “tinker in the garage, follow the manual.”

Also, China-made goods … cheap crap that breaks and is overall garbage.

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Euphoric_Loquat_8651@reddit

They're proven globally and typically cheaper when considering equivalent models. I'd be all over it.

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PotatoSpirit007@reddit

No, because it is an EV. Until they figure out a better battery storage, it's still going to suck.

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ProJoe@reddit

No.

I have enough shit that tracks me and gives a fascist government access to my information.

No.

EV doesn’t have the range I need and charging stations are still too scarce in rural areas

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pacododo@reddit

No.

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Adorable_Dust3799@reddit

Apparently the biggest issue so far is charging and repairs networks. Fox that and yes

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FrostyVariation9798@reddit

I've seen the lack of even medium term support for so many chinese products over the years that there is no way I would pay good money for a chinese vehicle.

Now, if the equivalent of a tesla model s - doesn't have to be anywhere near as fast but does have to have the room - was in the $20,000 range then, yes, as a disposable vehicle, I would consider it.

Key-Candle8141@reddit

No
I dont want a EV

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NeptuneHigh09er@reddit

Yes. I’m very interested in CATL’s development of the sodium-ion battery. It would be great to have an alternative to the lithium batteries on most EVs.

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rogun64@reddit

Yes, because free markets shouldn't just be about more freedom for manufacturing. It should also be about freedom for consumers. China makes great EVe for low prices and I guarantee you that many here who are saying "no" would buy one.

Whether you agree with the tariffs on Chinese EVs or not, Americans are losing out for not having the option to buy quality Chinese EVs at low prices. Whether it's an EV or an ICE vehicle, many, if not most, of the parts are made in China, anyway.

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Neat_Cat1234@reddit

I wouldn’t mind. I’ve ridden in them before while abroad and they were nice. My area has really good EV infrastructure so adoption wouldn’t be hard, and it would be nice to see some more competition. Majority of the cars on the road in my area right now are Teslas.

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No_Salad_8766@reddit

Wtf is a Chinese EV?

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CaramelMacchiatoPlzz@reddit

Electric vehicle.

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CaramelMacchiatoPlzz@reddit

If my only choices were American EVs and Chinese, I would buy Chinese.

Not until they have a proven service record. I mean, if I hear that someone had a dead battery in under 1 year and manufacturer refused to fix it, then why would I buy it?

I need something that’s comparable to Toyota device and quality. I would even pay Toyota prices for Toyota quality. Wait, for that there is Toyota…

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claudiatiedemann@reddit

When possible, I don’t buy things made in China. Sometimes it’s difficult to find alternatives but with cars that wouldn’t be an issue.

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OnMyWhey11@reddit

Yes, American car manufacturers are only interested in making large trucks and SUV in the name of profits, it’s clear they don’t want to serve the affordable smaller car market.

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Designer_Professor_4@reddit

There's no infrastructure for Chinese EVs and considering how heavily subsidized they are in China, I rather doubt they're going to actual pay the full bill to roll out out here.

Absolutely. It’s years more advanced than any of the junk we make here, has high end features as default and higher build quality.

They won’t let them in because they know they can’t compete.

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otterland@reddit

If it was imported and distributed by an existing company, why not? The Chinese build some nice cars.

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john_hascall@reddit

Yes. I would buy a BYD the moment it was available here. Full Disclosure: I own (for me) quite a lot of shares of BYD

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MoistTomatoSandwich@reddit

Hell naw. I've seen the build quality BYD has and they can be death traps. Even if they follow US safety standards and regulations I wouldn't trust anything from China that can spy on me.

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pinniped90@reddit

I'd maybe consider it after they had been in market for 5 years and had a built out dealer and parts network. And that's assuming they've met all safety standards and have a track record of performing well for those 5 years.

No but it’s just cause I generally don’t like the look of EVs

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FunTricky903@reddit

Nah, I already have a car.