What do you miss most about life in the UK 10–15 years ago?
Posted by Bjc93Bjc@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 542 comments
For context, I’m in my 30s and find myself looking back a lot at my late teens to early 20s.
Seeing friends all the time without needing to plan weeks ahead, random nights out, life feeling a bit more carefree. It’s not even just personal - the UK itself feels quite different compared to c. 10 years ago, no matter on how you look at it.
I know part of it is just getting older, but it does make me wonder how much has genuinely changed versus how much is nostalgia.
Do others feel the same, or is it just a case of rose-tinted glasses?
ME-McG-Scot@reddit
Everything was cheaper, it was in general a less sensitive, less hate, less pugnacious time.
ElectronicCarry9931@reddit
the price
Remote-Pool7787@reddit
London was an absolutely magical place 15 years ago
Low_Masterpiece_155@reddit
Lol just be glad you got to do all that in your late teens / early 20s. I’m 26 and it was already a struggle seeing friends all the time and going out was already pretty non-existent - and then covid happened. There’s not been a single month of my adult life where I haven’t been debilitatingly stressed about my financial situation or future opportunities.
Ok-Veterinarian-5381@reddit
Brother, nostalgia is a disease. The country has been in decline for our entire lifetime (also in my 30's). This country has always been a fairly crap place to be, particularly if you're young and/or poor (source: me)
the stuff about friends is just getting older, everything else is our society going down the shitter with the majority of our contemporaries' stupidity and spinelessness speeding up the process.
justmoochin@reddit
Just paying less to have a good time.
Beatrixx25@reddit
This was my first thought. Being able to afford to have a social life and do things.
Now I have to be very selective with what I decide to do because I know that will be my last day or night out in a long time.
smedsterwho@reddit
It's this. I moved back to the UK after 15 years away.
Pubs are dead, nights out are expensive. Restaurants (outside cities) are filled with 75 year olds being served by 20 year old minimum wage staff.
There's like a 30 year lost generation of people being able to enjoy being in their community.
gregd303@reddit
Interesting. I'm 11 years out, i think about coming back, but when I read things like this it has me questioning
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
It's not that bad. I'm happy I moved back (so far). It's been 6 months. Depends where you'd be moving back from.
gregd303@reddit
In Poland now, which is clean, safe, and very nice living most of the time. Can't complain really, just the pull of family and missing out on British culture a bit really. Where did you come back from?
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
Canada (Ontario), where I still have family and a baby nephew. The holiday (PTO) isn't great. I had a "good job" before we left which gave me 10 days + benefits (which if companies moved away from, more people could have better conditions). They keep most people on contracts because it's cheaper/less hassle.
The summers are great, but short. Love the Autumn/Fall and Winter is fun, but 6 months of snow/ice is tiring.
gregd303@reddit
Nice , yea always hear nice things about Canada living, but he winters do seem to be hard. We get snow here and winters are long but so are summers. The language is tough but logistically closer being in Europe so do visit back often.
The main hurdle for moving the daily back is the visa application and cost for my EU partner . The UK Gov seems to have no problem from making it difficult for it's citizens and families. It'll cost is upwards of £6k just for that, and not easy as there's a threshold of earnings, for me the sponsor. Anyway, not to bang on about it, but that's probably why we aren't back already. Hopefully you had a smoother process of returning .
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
Oh that's frustrating. Well done for tackling a new culture/language. I'm sure it's interesting, anyway! And yes, a shorter journey away for visiting.
My partner and I are both UK born, so that part was relatively simple. Bringing two cats back with us was less so 😸
No_Eagle_1424@reddit
There is a lively Mexican restaurant/ bar in my town. Its always busy on a friday and saturday night. But when you actually look inside, you notice that all the customers are over 50 years old. You never see any younger people in there because we cant afford it.
tadanari19@reddit
I don't know but I can't help but feel this isn't true (By which I mean in general, not at this particular restaurant). I was in a lively local Mexican restaurant literally 5/6 hours ago that was wasn't expensive, but wasn't cheaper either, and there was a significant range of ages. Most about 30-40 I'd say, and that's pretty typical in my experience.
I'd agree there are less significantly younger people (under 25 say) but in fairness when I was that age I rarely went out for a proper meal unless it was with family. Maybe I'm just trying to hang on to a general sense of optimism, and I absolutely believe young people have thing stacked against them economically, but I really think the idea people in their 20/30's can't afford tto occasionally go to a restart is a massive exaggeration.
Fun_Werewolf_4567@reddit
I’m one of those 50+ people and when I was in my 20s I’d be out for curry at least once a week with friends and nights out once or twice a week as well. And that wasn’t a thing to even think about…. I discovered the other day that the introductory £18k I was on in 97 is worth £43k today and it all made sense.
head_face@reddit
It's a bank holiday weekend, more people will be out than usual.
tadanari19@reddit
True, but I'd say it's fairly typical from my experience. Pretty much everyone I know of my age will occasionally go out for a meal at the very least, to say it's all people in their 50's isn't the case at all as far as I've seen. And in terms of general numbers, yes hospitality is absolutely struggling, but I live a fairly large city and if you don't book ahead, it can be difficult to get into any of the better restaurants even in the week; so I'd definitely say hogh quality places are doing okay footfall-wise.
smedsterwho@reddit
I said in the earlier comment "outside cities". I agree it's different in cities, but even then there is a survivorship bias, in that you see the ones who are out, and you don't see the ones who aren't out.
tadanari19@reddit
I'd say the average age of diners was broadly similar even in the smaller places I've lived tbf. And I agree that there will be a lot of people who can't afford to go out to eat regularly, I was just pointing out that in my experience there are a lot of younger people who can/do, and that 'restaurants being filled with 75 year old being served by 20 year olds' isn't accurate as far as I've seen.
smedsterwho@reddit
Might honestly just be my rural area then. But it's bizarre, even creepy.
tadanari19@reddit
Yeah I can imagine it would be a bit creepy! Maybe it is more of a rural thing, even the smaller places I've lived have technically been cities (though very small ones). I suppose there's a lack of employment opportunities for young people outside of urban areas, so would make sense.
S3lad0n@reddit
Are you by chance in a higher class or income bracket?
tadanari19@reddit
Nope, I'm pretty much bang on the average UK wage (slightly under base, slightly over with overtime), and I've only earned that amount for the last few years, I was significantly below average for most of my working life.
Much_Winter2202@reddit
So admittedly I'm 40ish but I went to a restaurant in West London last night. No booking so I sat at the bar. The people to my left were maybe 10 years younger than me and had been doing a pub crawl
It's not all elderly folks
FortOfSheets@reddit
That's because all the money is in London, and most working people earning well have jobs headquartered in or around it. I would leave London if it didn't mean getting a £30k salary up north for a job I do for £50k!
Much_Winter2202@reddit
But presumably rent is lower outside London, so dinner & drinks are less expensive in those places, too.
Remarkable-Pin-8565@reddit
It’s also the type of job. Outside of London, unless you find a remote gig - it’s largely going to be less well paid jobs (unless you’re in law, accountancy, energy). All of the better paid corporate + multinational jobs are in London.
TableSignificant341@reddit
There's a difference of 12 places on the [Happiness Index](https://files.worldhappiness.report/WHR24_Ch02.pdf?_gl=1*1q63x97*_gcl_au*ODIyNjI4NDUyLjE3Nzc4MTUzNDI) between old and young in the UK.
LunaWabohu@reddit
The only thing close to a restaurant I go to is Spoons
Bossman_Mike@reddit
Back in 2012-2013 my town was absolutely jumping. It was as good a night out as anywhere else.
Fastforward to around 2023 onwards. Even Good Friday night is dead.
AubergineParm@reddit
Minimum wage is “competitive pay” now it seems. My pay hasn’t risen with inflation since 2011. It started off very good, especially as entry level. But now with 16 years experience and two degrees on top, I barely scratch minimum wage. Sometimes even drops below it.
TheUnSungHero7790@reddit
Most restaurants, specifically chained ones have gone completely down hill.
Enshitification has well and truely set in, the quality of the food and service is in death spiral but the pride sky rocketed.
history_teach_cycle@reddit
Absolutely this. I teach secondary history and sometimes speak to the sixth formers about what it was like being at school in the 2000s. The cost of a night out compared to today is a joke when I actually think back on it. Also the availability of live music and clubs.
Marsmanic@reddit
£30 from the cash machine could do me a night out at Uni (+£8 bottle of Sainsbury's own gin to kick start the evening). Including food & taxi at the end of the night.
£30 gets you two cocktails now.
nerveagent85@reddit
To be fair, this is ever changing. It was £15-20 for a night out when I was at uni and I’m sure people older than me will see that as expensive.
Not disagreeing with the cost pressure of now, but it manly comes from other areas.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
I remember being a student in the late 2000s and was able to do very nicely at Tesco for £30 a week. Sometimes I'd splurge and spend £40.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
My dad was a student in the 1970s in a city which has always been a bit on the expensive side, but even he was able to have 4 pints, fish and chips then a taxi home - on just £5.
audigex@reddit
I feel like you should probably be a *bit* more ambitious with your curriculum than that
history_teach_cycle@reddit
Haha don't worry its not the only thing I do. It's an easy example when im talking about what inflation means in real terms for them though
eayst@reddit
It's amazing how reddit gives us a view into other's lives. No one I knew at school was going on a "night out". I wouldn't have even tried to go into a pub or club underage, I would have expected to get into deep trouble.
Marsmanic@reddit
I was the same as you.
But my brother and sister (both older) would do the fake ID thing.
I think it just became much stricter and enforced during my teenage years.
Makemeup-beforeUgogo@reddit
Totally agree - paying less money for everything! I actually prefer planning things becoming a thing now as I’m more of an introvert. My other half is the opposite though, he misses unplanned meetings too
grae3333@reddit
What an answer to be fair 👏. Nailed it in one
BlueLinnet@reddit
Or not paying anything to have a good time.
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
You haven't given a single issue about the UK as a whole, you've just expressed the same nostalgia for your younger years of carefree fun that literally everyone experiences.
What about the UK 10 or 1t years ago do you prefer to now?
For me, it was how quiet far right bigotry was. It was still there, sure, but they at least had the decency to know that everyone dislikes them and they should be ashamed to let their malformed, small-minded opinions known.
SeriouslyGetOverIt@reddit
I preferred it when far left bigotry wasn't so mainstream
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
What's an example of far left bigotry that's mainstream? We must stamp out bigotry in all its forms.
SeriouslyGetOverIt@reddit
The green party
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
How are they an example of bigotry?
SeriouslyGetOverIt@reddit
Openly advocating the pursuit of everything that makes life worse but deceiving you by telling you it will make life better.
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
That's not what bigotry is.
It seems like you just don't like their policies. What are they going to make worse? For whom?
SeriouslyGetOverIt@reddit
Their manifesto was essentially a list of things that increase inflation.
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
Ok, fair enough.
That isn't bigotry, still.
Sensitive_Watch7361@reddit
I’m sorry, but we all understand what the OP is getting at. The UK, and more broadly the world, feels quite bleak at the moment. It’s better to look past the technicalities instead of pretending the point isn’t clear. That whole “well actually☝️🤓” tone on Reddit feels tired now.
ArtisticExperience48@reddit
Couldn’t agree with you more on this, it’s so tiresome,
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
I forgive you.
Sea_Appearance6837@reddit
Cringe
P0rk1n5@reddit
A time when Nick Griffin was the worst of our worries and society as a whole rightly told him where he could stick his views.
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
I think the issue was that 15 years ago it was just far right bigotry.
Now, I think they may have a point.
highjohn_@reddit
You’re literally the issue then
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
No. You are!
Evening-Web-3038@reddit
Yea, their post has some "I miss my uni days and I'm 3 glasses of wine into my bank holiday Sunday night" energy
strolls@reddit
Poor OP, the second part was particularly cruel.
Aerodye@reddit
It feels a bit more lawless and dystopian now. You didn’t have these little shits on e-bikes going around in balaclavas 10 years ago. It feels like roadmen are more prevalent and more brazen than they used to be, and London overall feels a bit more hostile as a result
SautedMorsel@reddit
No phones at gigs
Nobody really gloating who was watching
Bilb-@reddit
10 year ago, this was still a thing :(
glasgowgeg@reddit
No it wasn't, Instagram launched 15-16 years ago
Bilb-@reddit
It really was, Instagram wasn't telling first kid on the bbloxk
glasgowgeg@reddit
People were absolutely taking photos of their food 10 years ago, you're lying to yourself if you're insisting otherwise.
Here's an article from 11 years ago documenting it as a trend.
Here's a NYT article from 16 years ago documenting it.
SautedMorsel@reddit
Agreed. But now it’s soul-less
A meal doesn’t have to be instagrammable to be photographed
Just a Nando’s will do
Bilb-@reddit
I'm a lot older then most here. I know for sure phones out for a concert was a thing long before 10 years ago. Nevermind 15 or 20 years. Heck, even my daughter is younger of this and is was a thing when I was a lot younger
glasgowgeg@reddit
Why reply to SautedMorsel saying the things in their comment still happened 10 years ago when you know they didn't?
Have you replied to the wrong comment?
glasgowgeg@reddit
All of this stuff surged in popularity with Instagram launching in 2010.
muse_head@reddit
There were phones at gigs even 20 years ago. Most people's phones had a camera from around 2005 onwards.
SautedMorsel@reddit
You know why I mean. Less of a constantly in your hand thing
Loud-Refrigerator675@reddit
Hardly anyone had a camera phone in 2005
Japhet_Corncrake@reddit
They did. It was common. It would've only taken photos and short video though, and you couldn't upload it straight to social media.
xxPlsNoBullyxx@reddit
You could upload it to Youtube and Google Videos, 2006-ish. I had one of those horrible massive bricks that 3 sold when they first launched. Filmed some gig footage on that and it looked and sounded so so bad.
Loud-Refrigerator675@reddit
The point is,
Hardly anyone did this
xxPlsNoBullyxx@reddit
I got the point, yes.
muse_head@reddit
I remember pretty much everyone having a camera phone by 2005... I had a Sony Ericsson K750 which was a lot cheaper than smartphones are now. The photos were not great, but not terrible.
Loud-Refrigerator675@reddit
Why did people take digital cameras out on nights out then?
Ragnarokoz@reddit
It's true that cameras were around 20 years ago but 10 years ago people were still completely letting go at a gig or on a dancefloor on the weekend because it wasn't common and effectively accepted to film it and post online. It happened, but it was the exception.
Of course there are still places where the person filming randomers would be the odd one out and perhaps called out but it feels to me at least that is slipping into the minority resulting in a much more reserved experience that doesn't touch what came before.
Nothing put a smile on my face more than seeing people absolutely going for it without a care in the world and it encouraged me and everyone around them to do the same.
muse_head@reddit
I really don't remember 10 years ago being any different to today in terms of phones out filming stuff at gigs and festivals etc. It was a sea of cameras. People were putting stuff straight onto Instagram and Snapchat the same as now. But 20 years ago was different for sure as camera phones at that time had terrible video and low light quality, and social media was much less integrated.
Ok-Explanation1990@reddit
No, not ten years ago. In 2016 Alicia Keys, Dave Chappelle and Louis C.K., began using Yondr in 2016 to lock phones in sealable, secure pouches, which allowed fans to keep their phones but prevented their use during shows. Adele and Beyonce publicly requested fans to stop filming, with Adele telling a fan, "I want to tell that lady as well, can you stop filming me, I'm really here in real life".
thedeadenddolls@reddit
This. I went to a radiohead tribute act this week and because they weren't the real thing there was no pressure to film. And it was all young people. Guess what, we enjoyed it more!
OneOfTheNephilim@reddit
That era is more like 20, 25 years ago at this stage
IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl@reddit
16 years ago was 2011. Smartphones were still relatively new, really shit at photos, and social media hadn't taken off yet.
Hamsternoir@reddit
Social media hadn't taken off?
Facebook was pretty prolific by then.
Frosty-Bag-4272@reddit
Then I miss that era only being ten years ago, from ten years ago.
mothsugar@reddit
on the other hand i'd love to have more photos from the late 90s/early 2000s instead of the 30 or so printed ones and fading memories.
Poseiden424@reddit
Go to a hardcore gig, never phones in that space!
insanityarise@reddit
As long as you don't mind some massive bloke spin-kicking you, or either standing at the back out of the way (not always mutually exclusive in my experience), yeah, they're great fun.
d3gu@reddit
This stuff happened 10 years ago.
Smugallo@reddit
There were definitely phones at gigs 15 years ago
89ElRay@reddit
This still happens with the right people
CherryadeLimon@reddit
Feels like we’ve quietly lost monoculture in the UK, and it’s not even that long ago.
10 to 15 years ago it still felt normal. Saturday night TV was a proper shared thing. X Factor and the soaps, big storylines. You’d go into school or work and everyone had seen the same thing the night before.
Same with music. Radio 1, the charts, TV appearances, they pushed the same songs to everyone so when someone blew up, they were everywhere. Streaming took over, platforms like and changed how people find stuff, and now everything’s more personalised.
Two people can both be into TV or music and have basically no overlap. We still get big moments now and then, but nowhere near the same “everyone in the country is watching this” feeling.
More choice than ever, just way less shared experiences....
b-ees@reddit
will say the celebrity traitors finale was a moment like that. something crazy like 1 in 5 people was watching it live
C5Galaxy@reddit
No Snapchat or Tik Tok shit.
Smugallo@reddit
I don't understand why people do this like hold their phone sideways to hear out the bottom
Sparkson109@reddit
I mean that’s where the speakers are
b-ees@reddit
there are also speakers at the top, specifically for you to press your ear against
Zealousideal_Ad_2777@reddit
I used to do this as a teenager because my heavy makeup always stuck to my phone after a call.
mothsugar@reddit
i saw a teenager doing this today, alternating between holding the end to his ear, and then speaking into the same end
genuinely concerned for gen z's mental wellbeing
xxPlsNoBullyxx@reddit
I do this to listen to voice notes when I don't have my ear buds. Only when I'm outside though. Wouldn't do this on public transport.
MattSR30@reddit
You can hold the phone next to your ear like a normal phone call; voice notes will play that way as well.
xxPlsNoBullyxx@reddit
......oh ffs. Is this my first senior moment? Am I old and out of touch? Thanks for letting me know 😅
MattSR30@reddit
I found out about it accidentally just two days ago. You can also do the same to record one. If you have a text message open, hold your phone to your head and it’ll start a voice note.
tiankai@reddit
Snapchat was a weird one.
I remember everyone using it in 2011, then it completely died to vine, which then died to TikTok and then SC somehow got resurrected to be extremely popular again
audigex@reddit
Snapchat never died off, it's been consistently pretty popular amongst young and single people
Did you happen to have a long term relationship around the time you feel it died off?
b-ees@reddit
snapchat died of for me in high school. no long term relationship to speak of
jimmybiggles@reddit
snapchat didn't die off at all, certainly not to vine..?
comparing snapchat to vine is like comparing netflix to whatsapp
MerlinOfRed@reddit
Snapchat never died off. It was only ever used by young people and you grew out of it before it evolved into inescapable behemoth it is today.
tellemhey@reddit
If I recall correctly there was this point on Snapchat where you couldn’t see anyone’s story which killed the app off for a bit.
RuneClash007@reddit
Snapchat and Vine weren't nearly the same thing though?
MushroomVolcano@reddit
I haven't logged into my Snapchat in about 15 years
glasgowgeg@reddit
Snapchat is not yet 15 years old
glasgowgeg@reddit
Snapchat launched 14 years ago, and was very much a thing within the time period OP asks about.
MerlinOfRed@reddit
I think people having their phone one loudspeaker is less of a change in behaviour thing and more of a merging of what was 15 years ago was two separate behaviours.
A phone call and skyping someone used to be two conceptually very different things. A Skype call would be more planned in advance and would use your normal computer speaker (or headphones). It was also generally more social. A phonecall was essentially exactly what people used to do on a landline phone, except we used our mobiles to do it.
I think the Zoom phenomenon of the pandemic brought them together. Teams/Hangouts are no different to WhatsApp, and WhatsApp can be professional or personal. When I agree to call someone, I'm never 100% sure if it's video or audio only until the moment the call starts. We now treat all calls the same, and that usually involves the loud speaker or headphones.
d3gu@reddit
People still had their phone on speaker for conversations! And Snapchat is more than 10 years old.
fiveofspades94@reddit
Snapchat took off when I was at uni. It was pure gold for parties, seeing where people were on the map - did they go their lecture or are they out? It was all new and in the uni bubble was fun.
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
Snapchat has been around since like 2010
punky63@reddit
About three weeks ago I saw a woman driving while holding and talking into her phone on loudspeaker. That really annoyed me. The whole point in loudspeaker is that it's hands free, surely?
Exact-Character313@reddit
We're not allowed to say
Dalbrack@reddit
Being able to work in other EU countries
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
Did you do so? Just curious. Pretty much nobody in my social group did, despite quite a few of them studying international business with French and German at uni.
kuteguy@reddit
yes, walking into Paris, Munich, or any of the EU cities/countries and start living there like I could in London or Birmingham was one of the most amazing feelings. I remember just being on my laptop in islands around Spain and Croatia doing Teams meeting, just as I would be in the hustle and bustle of my central London office.
I feel sorry for all the people that can never have that opportunity again - a dream they can't even dream anymore.
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
It was a perk of membership for sure, but of more use for Europeans wanting to move to the UK than a generation of Brits seeking exciting opportunities on the continent.
For most Brits its absence is like being sad about that funky cafe on your street closing down - the one you never went to.
Humble-Stay9771@reddit
Yes, I worked at the centre of it all in Brussels in the late 90s when we were all preparing for EU enlargement. It was such an optimistic and fabulous time. I would love for young British people (and indeed old people) to have similar experiences and opportunities now.
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
Fair enough.
I was in my 20s/30s during the peak of EU membership and freedom of movement and know very few Brits my age who actually took advantage of it.
Past_Substance_3057@reddit
We are French, and we used it to come here! Our children are thankfully binationals so will be able to do it if they wish to, but my heart literally bleeds thinking about the next generation not having the freedom we had. It doesn’t matter if you used it or not. Having the freedom to do it if you wish to is incredible. I worry that in a few months/years just having the freedom to travel/holiday abroad as we did for the past 30/50years will just not be possible anymore.
CarpetGripperRod@reddit
I feel hella sorry for my kids' mates. Whilst my sons, by virtue of my having an Irish passport, got to study in Europe, their friends did not.
On the plus side. Erasmus is coming back in 2027: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4ng7ee9vwo
IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl@reddit
OP asked for 10-15 years and the late 90s was 25-30; almost a doubling of what they requested.
It's been a long time. In the early to mid 2010s things were already looking a bit grim.
AirconGuyUK@reddit
It's one of those things people liked the idea of more than actually used.
By and large Brits did not use FoM while we had it. The stats bear that out.
But now everyone makes out they were definitely going to go live in France and learn French if it wasn't for the pesky Brexiters..
CaveteCanem@reddit
You still can..
Dalbrack@reddit
Not automatically
CaveteCanem@reddit
If you have to skills they want, what's the problem?
superioso@reddit
Want to go and work in a bar during the summer in Spain, not if you've only got a British passport.
Want to move to study in Germany and get a job whilst your there/after you've finished? Nope.
No working in ski resorts during winter either.
CaveteCanem@reddit
If the demand is there, then they'll hire internationally. Or you could just get the relevant visa...like the rest of the world
Dalbrack@reddit
Except, unlike EU citizens……which we were 10-15 years ago- you have the additional hurdle of having to obtain a visa and work permit as well as often having to get residency permits.
superioso@reddit
They do hire internationally, but people who already have the right to work there (like any other Europeans). You can't get a visa to work in a bar or ski resort.
If you do get a high paid job in the EU then yeah you can get a visa much easier, but you have many less rights, like you'll get kicked out if you lose a job. You also can't take out things like mortgages to buy a property if you just have a temporary work visa.
DEADB33F@reddit
Which EU countries have you worked in?
I did a six months stint in France in 2006/7 but was more of a working holiday (ski resort work) than actually "living abroad", and was only ever going to be very temporary.
mand71@reddit
I moved to France in 2003 for a year; I'm still here...
Dalbrack@reddit
Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Ireland, Cyprus, Spain
DEADB33F@reddit
Nice. I always wanted to do more but never got around to it.
...Come to think of it I did spend a month in Ireland but only ever worked cash in hand. I guess I could still do that (if I was still in my 20s and didn't give a fuck).
kuteguy@reddit
UK is an ABSOLUTE HOT MESS and I am sorry to say it is not going to recover, ever. I came to UK about 20 yrs ago and it was a flourishing country. London was just a sweet place of possibilities and melting pot of people wanting to stay here, to make life here, and people were excited about life.
Now its a country/city crumbling. People are here mostly because they don't have a choice. The people that are arriving are not the best fit for lifting up the country. The people the country needs the most are either not coming here anymore or are leaving in droves.
London doesn't have much of a lifestyle to boast about besides the nightlife and restaurants, perhaps some arts and craft and history and museums. Nightlife and restaurants are dead. Prices are through the roof - venues think they can make up for lack of patrons by charging more and all its doing is stopping people from wanting to go out. Everything is shutting down.
There's just no life in the place - day or night.
I live across 3-4 countries in any given year, and the only thing that keeps me here are my lifelong friends and the investments I have made here that I can't easily uproot, but not impossible. The other countries I visit or live in, the people are excited about the future. The weather is great. Lifestyly is awesome.
So I miss how great London (UK) was even 15 yrs ago, or 10 even. And I know it will never come back because we have crossed some threshold a few years back where a new UK order is now in the majority and they are captains of a sinking ship.
Pure_Breadfruit8219@reddit
Brannigans
smedsterwho@reddit
Hunt out Burts Crisps, they are the closest I've got to the Roast Beef and Mustard ones. You can get a box of them on Amazon.
pajamakitten@reddit
TK Maxx has them a fair bit too.
Pure_Breadfruit8219@reddit
I’ll give them a go
billiabus@reddit
People always talk about the Beef ones, but the Smoked Ham and Pickle were my absolute favourite and there's nothing even remotely similar.
No_Battle_6402@reddit
It was a dark time when they were discontinued
Pure_Breadfruit8219@reddit
I can still taste them.
No_Battle_6402@reddit
I loved going to the local quiz every Thursday and afterwards we would go into Spoons just so I could buy a pack of Brannigans!
HotFlatus69@reddit
You are remembering your youth, that us all.
It is the same as when anybody says "Life was better in the 50s/60s/70s/80s."
It wasn't. They are just remembering their youth.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
Yeh you make a point, but the UK is a dire place to live compared to 15-25 years ago. I should know, I left and moved to the USA. It's gut wrenching seeing how the country has deteriorated whenever I have to return. My life is great today (because I live in Texas), never been happier. The UK feels strange to me these days, like it's a nightmare version of what was once happy. There's a reason huge numbers of people are leaving.
RealRelative9835@reddit
I've left and come back (from Spain), what do you think is significantly worse and particularly what do you like more in US?
Glad you can enjoy it but you couldn't pay me to live in USA, twice turned down quite lucrative offers but for me there's so many things I couldn't put a price on. That's before the obvious living far away from others
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
How did you move over to Texas if you don’t mind me asking? I was in Austin a couple years back and it looked like a nice spot to live in.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
My wife is Texan. I want to get my wife a British passport but it's difficult and I do not want to have to move back to the UK and be resident for three years because A - it's shit and B - my taxes would go up about 2.5x.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
Yh taxes have been a big consideration for me too. Getting taxed to death here. But moving on h1b doesn’t sound that appealing either.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
It's insane how much you are taxed there and for what? Shit healthcare, roads that look like they've been hit by a mortar strike, police that seem completely uninterested in tackling crime or confronting criminals.
Brits seem to have this unearned sense of moral superiority over Americans, they talk about how terrible US healthcare is etc without ever having experienced it. It's all cope, the average person in Scotland almost earns closer to an average Chinese person than American. Brits do not understand just how poor they've become compared to the US, how bad services and standard of living have gotten. Sure the US has problems but my god is it a better quality of life here and it's not even close.
Every close friend who's visited me from Germany and the UK all wishes they could move here. Even my parents who really do not like America begrudgingly admit it's a better place to live.
H1B system needs to end, its been completely abused by certain groups who should never have been allowed in.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
I think in the UK, the issue is that a large chunk of population is relying on government to get them through the day. Too much money is going towards benefits, social housing, often by people who have not earned that right.
I was out of the country myself for a while working elsewhere in Europe and found that systems outside of UK are much better at distributing government funds fairly. I am still shocked to find that if something went horribly south for me here in the UK, the amount of support I would get from the government here would be not dissimilar to someone who has been free-loading/largely unemployed for most of their life, regardless of how much tax I paid. Hence, I know so many people in the UK who have been fully reliant on government and don't feel like coming off the dole anytime soon. Nothing motivates me more for work than knowing I'm about to lose 50% to tax which goes to support these...lol.
That being said, I was also in N.Y. not long ago and I'm not sure wth they're doing there but I have not seen a place so run down. I saw people walking around with obvious untreated wounds/ailments, filthy public transport, literally nutjobs screaming top of voice middle of street. Accidentally ended up going to the Bronx too. No comment on that one. Not really sure what is the main difference between N.Y. and Texas but I thought Texas was the way forward.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
I agree with you, it's plainly shocking to me how welfare is a career path in the UK, and now you are in a cycle where because so many are completely dependent on it, even generationally so, it becomes impossible to break the country out of it. You need to get rid of the welfare state in order to cut taxes in order to grow, it's as simple as that. Instead the crushing tax burden falls on fewer productive people every year which then requires more welfare and more taxation. Meanwhile the wealthy, the entrepreneurs, the businesses just leave.
Seeing people who are not citizens somehow getting social housing, welfare for their non-British children is insane. It's wrong and we all know its broken.
Welfare should be temporary, not permanent. Otherwise it becomes a societal cancer. Also why is the UK importing so many people from the third world when there's no jobs and AI is going to take even more?
I make over $300k and my effective tax rate after deductions is less than 20%... I couldn't bring myself to fork over half of my money to the government, it's evil and morally wrong.
Yeh the blue states like NY are basically doing what Europe is doing and are failing with high taxes, high welfare, huge budget deficits, high regulation. Look at the internal migration in the US, California and NY are having major population declines as everyone moves to the red states like Texas, Florida, Tennessee etc and the existing tax base in the blue states gets smaller and smaller.
Come to Texas, it's a different world to NY which I dislike.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
Aha as you were responding I was making the point in my head how hard it is to move the country away from this model because so much of the country is already dependant on benefits so they're very unlikely to support these reforms, even though logically the more people become dependants vs workers, the smaller that purse gets. And yes they keep eroding the incentives behind why people would want to work hard and are surprised that not as many people now do. Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly one of those people who are on the far of the other side where I think businesses should be allowed to skip on paying tax massively or there should be 0 social net available regardless of circumstance, I just feel like there is probably a good balance that can be found and hasn't been at all in the UK. My marginal here is 71% so yh I don't plan to stick around very long.
Any downsides to TX? Like the whole guns, abortions thing makes me a little uncomfortable but idk if realistically would be an issue at all.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
Also 71% marginal tax rate is absolutely insane. That's USSR levels of bad. What's the fucking point? The state isn't some organism we should be feeding, it's meant to support people, not rob them. So glad I left. I know others who have to, smart, educated, hard working people. Something tells me a collapse is incoming as you import the third world whilst your best and brightest leave for the US, Australia, Dubai, Singapore etc.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
yup crazy. My grandmother is from an ex-Soviet state and she speaks lots on how things used to be, where everyone was poor and the person who worked 10h got as much as someone who worked 4h. Thing is, at least, in the USSR you could shame people into picking up the slack sometimes, not something that is possible in modern antisocial and disconnected society.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
How is wlb there though? And Medicare? I’m guessing good enough as it seems like it was worth it overall?
Sudden_Standard_748@reddit
Not really the UK is undergoing a sizemic change. Just consider one issue, immigration, for example. Pre-1950, 99.9% of Britain was white and had been for the last thousand years. By 2050, 50% will be. That's a massive change in a single lifetime compared to all the centuries before it.
And that's before you consider stuff like how it's now normal to spend upwards of 5 hrs a day staring at a computer. It's not just nostalgia, people really are living through massive changes.
Kind_Cost_3961@reddit
So, we’re just gonna let this go… percentage of white people as a major factor of change that affects people’s lives. Bro it only affects the quality of your life if you’re a racist.
Sudden_Standard_748@reddit
Where did I say it affects the quality of my life? I was merely pointing out that it's not just nostalgia. Things really ARE different from how they used to be. People aren't misremembering. It's accurate to say the UK used to be a very different place and just one of those ways in which it has changed has been through mass immigration.
Slow_Plan_7035@reddit
No, not really, if you’re a native and natives are being replaced by people who can’t even speak the same language, you see posts that say things like ‘Indian’s only’ for room rents, similar situation for jobs. It’s not racist to not like that.
Fontainebleau_@reddit
This and we are all working more, getting more educated and are much poorer. What my parents afforded on a single income isn't ever going to be possible again. That entire way of life is gone. I think the comments on Reddit get manipulated quite a bit but this is the real answer
Kind_Cost_3961@reddit
Whilst what you say is true, it is also the case that life in the UK is demonstrably harder for most people now than it was a decade or so ago. It’s more expensive, there’s less opportunity and less stability.
thewhowiththewhatnow@reddit
Things were shit, differently. This country’s been leaving people behind since before I was born, and I am old enough to be culturally irrelevant.
I’m going to say I miss not knowing what 40 degrees celcius feels like in London.
HotFlatus69@reddit
Certainly there is a lot of truth there, which is reflected by data. Personally, my life is better. I earn more, have a family, but most saliently give less of a shit about things.
MaiLittlePwny@reddit
Nah. I wasn't ridiculously young 15 years ago.
I miss the optimism. Things were slowly trudging towards being better in pretty much all areas. Times were a bit more innovative.
Now I'm acutely aware that companies/experiences/retail/everything wants to pull the maximum amount of money from me for the minimum viable service, and while we've always had that - they've been whittling the stick at both ends for longer now.
It's not anything in particular, I just think Covid massively increased the pace at which some things have gotten a bit worse, and that some of the downward spirals have continued.
15 years ago, a 14 year spiral of austerity hadn't happened also. Public services have continued to burn to the ground on national TV.
None of that is tied to nostalgia or my "youth". They've gotten objectively worse.
Tiny_Health_7130@reddit
I’m Gen X and feel like I got through the trap door before it slammed shut and the ladder pulled up behind. Free university education and some maintenance grant too; bought a house at 3 times salary - first house in London in 2001 - 99k.
I really feel for young folks coming through now - thousands in debt and house prices 7-10 times salary and that’s here in north west where things are a bit cheaper anyway
Ordinary_Tank_5622@reddit
Life was better for lesbians. Now it’s just grim. Nowhere to meet up and dating apps are just full of men.
RealRelative9835@reddit
I'm pretty sure what you describe is just getting older. I've heard thought that myself and heard similar in the past from people up to my grandparents' generation.
What I miss isn't unique to UK, but I think while technology brings many benefits we are gradually losing many minor moments of human connection for greater convenience/lower price. It can sound silly to miss e.g. a checkout person and the basic conversation, but I believe cumulatively these help us and worry that's leading to some lost sense of community as well as more loneliness.
Green-Temporary9686@reddit
40 quid and I’d have a brilliant night out, pack of cigs, loads of pints, and a taxi home
ziapics@reddit
Getting a free burger coupon on the back of a bus ticket
ziapics@reddit
The prices
nezukobites@reddit
10-15 years ago… that’s as recent as 2016. Christ, it was bad enough then. I miss pre-2008 when things were actually affordable
h00dman@reddit
I miss the feelings of optimism from 2012 to 2015. The economy was improving, it felt like society was still progressing with social issues, we had an unexpectedly fantastic home Olympics, James Bond celebrated its 50th birthday, and not long after so did Doctor Who.
I also miss internet forums. There are a few still around but they don't anywhere near as much traffic as the forums of old.
dontbelieveawordof1t@reddit
Lower taxes, more disposable income, lower prices.
Doomergeneration@reddit
Sounds strange but I didn’t think about the future. I’m now 35 and all I think and worry about is the future
HistoryDisastrous493@reddit
100% agreed, that's the biggest change for me over the past 10-15 years. Not so much a "the country has changed", though it absolutely has hugely changed for the worse in that time, but more that I have changed. I turned 40 last year, and almost immediately my parents began getting ill. Nothing serious, but enough to make me realise that the next decade or so will be me looking after (or at the very least worrying over) them, and at some point during the decade after that they'll be gone
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
Look after yourself too. ❤️🩹
HistoryDisastrous493@reddit
Thank you
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
I remember being aware that the earth "needed saving" from about 11yrs old. (I'm 44.) Still lived my life, but everyone talked about how things must change by 2025... I used to think joining the police would be my way to "help people", became obsessed with recycling etc. I ended up working in children's homes, social services, family intervention, youth justice, parent/family groups, which I feel did amount to some impactful work.
Worry is like a rocking chair. It'll pass the time, but it won't get you anywhere.
All we can do is attempt to set ourselves up for the future, look after our bodies, and hope for the best! 🤞🏼 Anxiety & stress will make you sick. 😵💫
Ok_Cobbler_8889@reddit
This is probably the best advice out there
jrcs90@reddit
I'm the same age as you and I feel consumed with worry. Hopefully it gets easier
Fun_Ad_4126@reddit
Same here. Always wake up anxious which isn't pleasant. What are the main things you feel consumed with worry about?
jrcs90@reddit
So many things.
My wife and I don't have children yet. Mortgage payments. Threat of redundancy.
I feel like I've spent the last 12 months just counting down to payday, living 4 weeks at a time because everything is so expensive now.
I miss being carefree
Educational-Newt2213@reddit
I turn 35 in August, and I get this.
PeterG92@reddit
I feel the same. I'm "only" 33 but I worry at how fast time goes and tha before I know it I'll be retiring wondering what it all went.
Waltuh_Whitey@reddit
Retirement? What’s that?
Liquor_D_Spliff@reddit
Im 40 next year and recently seem to have been hit with this huge awareness of my age/aging. I feel older, more out of touch. I see my parents in their final years. I have this sensation it should have "clicked" by now but I still seem to just stumble through, despite having a family of my own now. I feel happy and content, yet tired and unsatisfied. I feel lucky and successful but boring and incomplete. Like is a conundrum.
lilphoenixgirl95@reddit
I had the awareness of age/ageing/death thing consume me from about age 11–24. It made me extremely unwell. Terrified all of the time. Panic attacks. I managed to get over it around the age of 27/28. I’m 30 now. Still can’t stop to let myself think about it too deeply but I can cope. I’m sure you’ll get over it quicker as an already fully functioning adult.
Fun_Ad_4126@reddit
Same here. Was speaking to my gf about this last night and especially how I struggle to make decisions about the future. What specifically do you fear about the future?
alfa_omega@reddit
You need to read some Eckhart Tolle friend
Shoddy_Juggernaut_11@reddit
And then death befalls you 😂
d3gu@reddit
My mum being alive.
ReasonableBuilding42@reddit
Me too
hummus69@reddit
People weren't so openly racist...
rtrance@reddit
The nightlife, clubbing
jonnyrestless@reddit
Not having everything videoed A more cohesive culture and demographic Not perfect but there was more honesty, respect and societal belonging. Was on the way down 15 years ago but really messed up now
durrante@reddit
Optimisism
HellPigeon1912@reddit
Bands in the charts
glasgowgeg@reddit
Foo Fighters are currently #2 in the charts, are they not a band?
Semajyio@reddit
Reminds me of Killing in the Name getting Christmas No1
ParfaitCareful8518@reddit
This was so cathartic 🙌🏼
ThickAd8749@reddit
2009
Corona21@reddit
Wasn’t that about 18 years ago?
dingledorb@reddit
Almost 20 years ago brother
dprophet32@reddit
And Radio 1 asking them to play live but not to swear. What did they expect? It's RATM first of all and second they're playing a song where "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" is a pretty big part of it.
hesgotredhair@reddit
It was 5 Live. Who always interact with RATMs annual post about it.
onewetfart@reddit
I reckon it's time to launch a national campaign to get it back to No1 this year
NarwhalTop1821@reddit
Roads without pot holes.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
It's all been quite sudden. I remember even in 2018-2019 the roads in my town were like glass, there were huge resurfacing projects, the council were properly on top of it.
And now it's like terraforming Mars.
Tachanka-Mayne@reddit
Roads that are less busy too. Get stuck behind someone or in traffic on every single journey these days.
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
Going back to the UK after living in Texas, makes the UK more akin to South Africa than a first world country. It's fucking atrocious the state of infrastructure.
My sister recently visited me for the first time in Texas and was like wow, everything is so nice here, the roads are good, people seem happy, the place feels alive. She says where she lives just keeps getting worse.
tellemhey@reddit
No this was a thing. I had a tax disc holder that said ‘I’ve paid my tax now go fix some ‘f***ing’ pot holes. Then tax discs became obsolete
WeeklyPermission239@reddit
being able to get a doctor's appointment
feeling (slightly) safer in public
people not playing their phones on speaker in public
people believing in medical science over influencers
sgst@reddit
Being able to afford basic luxuries. Nowadays it's necessities only and no joy in life.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
In the old days essentials were piss cheap, luxuries were for the rich.
These days it's the other way round - you can buy a massive TV for less than a month's groceries.
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
Where are you living that you feel unsafe in public? I feel like the streets feel safer than when I was younger. Used to be huge roaming packs of teenagers about often lookling for trouble but they're mostly indoors now a days. Might just see a handful of them on bikes now, but never 10-20+ of them wnadering about.
llama_del_reyy@reddit
You are not in more danger in public.
OkHistorian9521@reddit
Downvoted for the truth🤣
-DoctorSpaceman-@reddit
Pretty sure dogs were always out of control, it’s just been more newsworthy since certain breeds have started being singled out
london_10ten@reddit
Nandos being a relatively cheap fast(ish) food option. It's essentially £25 now compared to around £10.
Bitter_Tooth_6607@reddit
The way the sun felt warm
cavershamox@reddit
The hope
Valesker@reddit
The EU, social democracy, hope
Awkward_Aioli_124@reddit
Being able to get a job
Clarebroccolibee@reddit
Job advert requirements not being as long as your arm too, it’s like you’re filling 3 job roles
ThrowawaySunnyLane@reddit
The coalition government.
T_raltixx@reddit
Having good heath, friends and hope for the future.
spazbarracuda@reddit
Pre-enshitification Cadbury, their chocolate used to taste amazing now I can’t buy it
Acceptable-Friend-42@reddit
East London was a happy chaos of people going to late bars, clubs and raves I drive through now in the early hours sometimes and it's completely dead. It's so strange that culture has evaporated.
thefootster@reddit
Being able to do things spontaneously. Before COVID we'd often think something like "let's go to the zoo today", but since then you pretty much always have two pre-book online for most places.
YouCantArgueWithThis@reddit
EU
Past_Substance_3057@reddit
Came here to say that x
Reeelfantasy@reddit
Cleanliness and meeting Europeans people everywhere
Dedward5@reddit
10 years is nothing in terms of society and most of the stuff people are saying is just “growing up stuff”
lokensen@reddit
The EU !😜
girlelectric1@reddit
Sub cultures!
4BennyBlanco4@reddit
Having an EU passport.
SYSTEM-J@reddit
I mean, people were definitely saying the country was complete shit 15 years ago. We were balls deep in the austerity era, economy only just beginning to get back on its feet after the recession. I think on this exact date 15 years ago I had just started a minimum wage job working nights after being unemployed for almost two years, and I was glad to have that dogshit job.
So I'm going to have to go with rose-tinted glasses. Obviously there are certain things that have got worse since the early 2010s, but it certainly wasn't some halcyon era in history.
inevitablelizard@reddit
We were still further up the slope of decline though. At the time it felt shit, and it was, but things have only got worse.
huwareyou@reddit
How much more American people sound now.
MidnightRambler87@reddit
Ah yes, the inflection at the end of every sentence grates.
inevitablelizard@reddit
The upward inflection? At the end of every sentence?
jdsuperman@reddit
Not everyone's English is as good as yours
huwareyou@reddit
No, that’s not what I mean. It’s not about anyone’s command of English, it is accents and cadences weakening in favour of American ones.
blondererer@reddit
I feel that the UK has become more insular and openly divided with regard to politics/religion etc.
The media has become more brazen, social media has had an impact. Yes, I understand social media had been around for a while at that point, but it wasn’t as toxic. Some of this possibly came with older people/the masses accessing it, rather than teens.
So far, Millennials/Gen Z hasn’t had a boom period, unlike other generations too. This has probably impacted positivity.
inevitablelizard@reddit
I first started paying attention to politics back in the early 2010s as a teenager and newspapers were still fairly widely read. I was that weird teenager that would buy the Times, or the Telegraph, or the Independent, or maybe the Guardian, depending what was reported on. Felt like things completely changed with social media dominance.
The lack of a boom period is spot on too. As long as I've been old enough to be aware of this stuff, I have only ever known stagnation and decline. I have never known this country on the up, or doing well. Older generations on the other hand have seen both boom and bust.
Ahhhhrg@reddit
15 years ago social media hadn’t really been around for a while at that point at all. Facebook only really kicked off internationally probably around 2008-2009, same time the iPhone kicked off. Sure a few years, but it hadn’t “been around” generally, it was very early days.
blondererer@reddit
It had for my age group. I had Facebook by 2006, as did my friends. MySpace was also very much a thing, but it wasn’t really something people of my parents generation used.
brockford-junktion@reddit
15 years ago was 2011.
Inner-Abalone-5799@reddit
millenials teens and 20s was a massive boom period
Professional-Bear857@reddit
I'm nearly 40 and for my entire working life the economy has been stagnant. There's been no per head growth for 20 years.
Chevalitron@reddit
For me it felt like after growing up in a booming economy where I wasn't allowed to earn money, the world said "oh you're an adult now? Well haha everything has gone to shit."
blondererer@reddit
Maybe for older millennials. For me and my peers, we graduated into a recession.
-Xserco-@reddit
When an entire generation has voted to essentially gut the Welfare state, to kick us out the EU, and to make life good for them but worse for everyone that comes after...
Then to have the galls to blame current issues on brown people 💩🇬🇧💩 to say the least
Professional-Bear857@reddit
Yup social media being used more widely combined with economic stagnation has proved to be a very toxic combination.
slowjoggz@reddit
People being more engaged and not sat on their phones at every given opportunity.
AubergineParm@reddit
I feel like kids had more brain cells then. Now all they do is doomscroll TikTok and shout 6-7
Fearless_Joke_5256@reddit
I'm nearly 38. My son who is around 6 started saying it randomly. I didnt have a clue. I asked my younger brother one day when I was at my parents' and my son said it again. And then my brother explained.
Kinda sad how things become viral.
AubergineParm@reddit
I mean, we had plenty of brainrot too - annoying orange, asdf movies, rage comics
Dimac99@reddit
Is 6-7 not old fashioned already?
2918927669@reddit
I wasn't here, but having returned last year after 23 years living abroad, I miss life without apps.
We used to use trains and buses, park in car parks, watch TV, and buy groceries or homewares or fuel or haircuts or tickets for leisure pursuits using cash or cards. Now I seem to need to install an app and set up an account for f*cking everything.
myblackandwhitecat@reddit
Being in the EU.
Floor-notlava@reddit
The UK 10-15 years ago was shite. The global economic collapse and austerity under the Lib-Con pact, where working people were forced to use food banks in high numbers. Grenfell disaster followed by a bunch of useless feckless politicians.
Nah, the 2010’s were terrible. The 90’s & 2000’s however were great.
MidnightRambler87@reddit
We are still in a form of global economic collapse and working people are still using food banks in record numbers, so nothing has really changed in 10-15 years.
Additional-Ask-5512@reddit
Yeah this is it. Usually after a crash there's a boom. We've just had crash then stagnation with high inflation.
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
Were the 2010s worse than the 2020s? I easily accept the 90s or early 2000s were better than both.
Knowlesdinho@reddit
Old school internet. MSN was still used back then by many. YouTube still felt fresh and wasn't completely saturated with adverts. Content felt real and genuine.
Yes Facebook was a bit mindrot, but it still felt candid rather than what we get today. Photos and videos posted of nights out weren't scrutinised like they are today.
Radiohead releasing In Rainbows (I know this is slightly earlier than the timescale posted) felt like something amazing and exactly what the Internet was designed for.
Forums were genuinely great places to be and you made real friendships with people and you would probably never ever know their real name, but they were always there commenting on your posts.
Additional-Ask-5512@reddit
Facebook at the start was a way different experience to what it is now. It was interacting with people you knew, no videos, people writing things, the odd grainy photo album, no infinite scroll. Nowadays it's just a cesspit of adverts and random AI content getting shoved down your neck. A case study in gradual enshittification.
parasoralophus@reddit
The internet not dominating everything.
Fit-Fault338@reddit
There was more stability.No Covid, no wars here there and everywhere, more housing stock.My parents were alive, so were several of my cousins.
gizmostrumpet@reddit
People seemed to have a lot more humour and optimism, seeing how people talk to bar staff, waiting staff etc. is really depressing.
Fresh_Instance_1991@reddit
Not having to reserve everything!! Remember the days when you could go out for dinner or a day out on a whim? I'm a millennial mum and you even have to reserve soft play 🫠
Blurny@reddit
Not being that close to £0 each month that I have to worry about some brain damaged, wrinkled old yoghurt from another country doing something absolutely retarded to send the world economy’s haywire.
BristolBomber@reddit
Sounds like you are more missing life in your late teens and 20s rather than the nostalgia as such.
Which is to be expected.
The main differences are cost of living and social changes like prevalence of social media and more 'inward' facing ideals since covid and trump.
You would go back further for more dramatic changes in general.
No_Communication5538@reddit
Being a member of EU
dhn291181@reddit
15 years ago I was 18 and could go out with £30 in my pocket and go to a few bars and a club and get absolutely wasted. Then still have enough money to get food and a taxi home
BongThumper@reddit
Disposable income despite earning less money. Less vocal xenophobes. Public services for the vulnerable.
JohnJamesPunton@reddit
Social Media was a lot more fun, now it feels like it's just engagement bait, ads, algorithms, ads and then more ads.
Routine-Rip-2414@reddit
There’s something special about the days when a night out just happened spontaneously and you could actually afford it without breaking the bank. On top of that, not having every moment documented or interrupted by loud notifications made real conversations feel more genuine. It’s definitely a mix of aging and things shifting, but the financial freedom and social simplicity hit different looking back.
mahler_1@reddit
Being able to afford to go out
nikhkin@reddit
Stuff in Poundland was a pound.
Swoopsling@reddit
I miss life before the "we're definitely doomed" climate report
Significant_Map_363@reddit
It’s wild how much of that carefree feeling was tied to stuff being genuinely affordable, and not having every single moment curated for social media. The combo of those two things really killed a lot of the spontaneous, low-stakes fun we used to take for granted.
EquipmentCivil7900@reddit
Wages keeping up with inflation, although that’s more like 18 years ago
Background-Cap-9047@reddit
Oh the 90's were great
whisper whisper whisper
What do you mean the 90's started 35 years ago?
Initial-Economy-1400@reddit
Im 23 and Id like to say that for all the people moaning this post has alot comments of people mostly being nostalgic, would something we miss from the life in the past just be nostalgia anyway. Also I to am nostalgic for the past of you older people, I have quite young parents who are in there 40s and growing up with them was hole lof meeting people, being up the pub and going to parties. Loads of people used to have house parts especially in the summer, I remember walking round my estate as a kid and there would be usually 10 or so house parties going on plus bqq's and alot of people had an open door if even if you didnt know them. Small local events were big lots amazing things just open to the public like fun days qnd festivals seem fewer since being a kid. The social nature of people it could meeting random families or starting parties in parks, busy pubs, or just chilling on the green with all our neighbours, I feel like so many people just dont seemed bothered for much now or are disconnected more now. Last I would like to say the amount of hype surrounding things, plus the authenticity of it wether its music, sports, movies, games, social events, markets and carboots(this aswell there were more of these at one point) but I have memories of people being more excited than ever about stuff, now it feels like a some stuff just lacks soul and nobody is as interested anymore
Major-Linux@reddit
I'm in my 60's. Life growing up was simpeler, we had way more freedom, life was great
bsnimunf@reddit
The affordability. You could go the pub eat out and still buy affordable houses in many areas of the country. My cost of living to wage ratio is claustrophobic.
Suitable-Tomorrow577@reddit
The first year I was at uni Facebook hadn’t reached the UK. Times were better then- cheap nights out, sports, community, exercise, small group of friends all close by
Total-Coconut756@reddit
Lower cost of living so life just felt easier and we worried about it less.
TheMaracaMilkMan@reddit
24 hour ASDA
TheMasalaKnight@reddit
I’m in the exact same age demographic as OP, I don’t think this kind of nostalgia is specific to the uk, I think it’s a generational thing. But yeah, I miss everything you’ve mentioned.
We grow older and new responsibilities and pressures change the course of life for everyone.
WanderlustZero@reddit
Being on the bus without being battered by 30 different loud phones playing tiktoks
EggNational7121@reddit
Being able to go for a pint with a friend and it not costing more than 15 quid
EggNational7121@reddit
By 2011 things were getting expensive and the country had been hit by financial crisis. Go back 20 years no we are talking :) The cost of going out anywhere was generally much more affordable, no toxic social media, just what I would consider normal life.
autumnsnowflake_@reddit
The lower cost of uni tuition fees
Tortoise_no7@reddit
Social media being less of a thing, camera phones not being good enough so you’re not constantly being filmed. Pints being incredibly cheaper so pub culture was still thriving. It’s thought pub culture was /is incredibly valuable for bringing together all classes of people in a social environment. Things were just a lot cheaper and people had more disposable income to enjoy life.
Ok-Selection1335@reddit
Humour . Light heartedness . Have to be so careful now . Cheaper goods . Better music . Cheap holidays . Not being so scammed or ripped off even though we were but not to this extent . Better NHS . Although it was the start of its downfall . Less influencer bollocks.
BlondBitch91@reddit
Everything being cheaper. The EU passport line. Less phones at every event.
prsdude1828edudsrp@reddit
No influencers or people clogging up the streets taking selfies.
tlatwuk@reddit
Reading / Leeds festival lineups.
EasilyExiledDinosaur@reddit
The 10p freddo
Gunboat_Diplomat_@reddit
Racists were afraid
No_Grapefruit_2518@reddit
I miss the price of chocolate
Maximus-Clueless@reddit
Everyone was much less divided back then. You weren’t defined by your political alliance or views on immigration or trans people. Things were cheaper and people were happier
dannyhodge95@reddit
I don't think loads has changed in that time to be honest. The only one that truly comes to mind is how normal it's become to be tracked by your family. My in-laws think it's so weird that they don't have 24/7 access to my location.
sf-keto@reddit
While the GDP looks larger now than 15 years ago, inflation, geopolitics & economic problems have reduced the quality of life & ability of most people to stay on an even keel.
So that GDP increase is essentially consumed by all these events, leaving people practically poorer in daily life today.
DangerousPin8995@reddit
I wish I didn't sell all my CD's to HMV when they were doing a big exchange back in 2016. I use to have a decent collection of music.
Jambomakaveli@reddit
I really miss the lack of social media.
He says, posting on social media. 🙄
Unusual_Sherbert2671@reddit
I'm 33, I look back at how my parents got by easily on a single income, decent home, 2 cars, family.
It was a great time as I was young I didn't know about politics, just music, football and going out.
Interesting-Bit725@reddit
This is a you change, not a UK change. I’m a single gay man in my 40s and I go out with my friends as regularly as I did 10 years ago.
VariousClassroom8056@reddit
TBF I don't miss anything. In the last fifteen years I've got married to a wonderful woman and had a child I love immensely. Not everyone wants that which is absolutely fine but I feel very fortunate to have something a lot of people do want but are never able to have.
My physical and mental health is a lot better now too, especially over the last few years.
ajsexton@reddit
15 years I got married and we've had kids since too. Wouldn't swap them for anything but I do miss being able to just go and do things when I/we want to do them without excessive plans required 🤣
HistoryDisastrous493@reddit
Nice! 10 years or so ago I'd have said the same haha. Forgive me, but how old are you? What I mean is, are you aging into or out of your prime?
VariousClassroom8056@reddit
40, starting getting in much better physical and mental shape a couple of years ago. I'm now probably the lowest weight/best shape I've been in for 20 years.
Got off drugs, lost ~35kg, back on my meds, fixed my diet and started working out with weights 4 times a week or so. Was probably not a great husband at the time (not abusive or anything like that, just mentally not in a great place so wasn't the most fun) but doing my best now, that's all you can do I guess.
strolls@reddit
https://imgur.artemislena.eu/V12hv55.gif
VariousClassroom8056@reddit
Kind of depends on the drugs I guess.
bill_end@reddit
Just out of interest, what drugs have helped you lose weight?
I've put on 4 stone since slowing down my drug use and I feel more unfit than I have in years.
VariousClassroom8056@reddit
I used Mounjaro for nine months before the price went crazy. I lost about a kilo a week which was too fast really. At the time I think it was about £120-£150 per month so basically break even on the reduction in food costs.
People say you just put on the weight after you stop but I've been off nearly a year and kept most of it off other than weight I've put on as muscle.
Heroin is too dangerous now with all the nitazenes in it so I really wouldn't recommend it. It's a rubbish drug - pretty soon you aren't taking it for the pleasant feeling, just taking it not to feel sick anymore and it's horrible to go cold turkey from. I didn't feel physically normal again for probably 3-4 months.
2munkey2momo@reddit
Nice to see some positivity in a thread like this. Good for you brother.
flodomite@reddit
They hadn't quite figured out how to monetise engagement on social media
SleepAllllDay@reddit
In a nutchell: Optimism.
Cheese_roller@reddit
I’m 51 now and can’t remember the last time i found a copy of Razzle in the local park.
Sea_Director_4439@reddit
A disposable income
BadeArse@reddit
I don’t think I’ve ever had any, in over 18 years of continuous employment.
DrBob2016@reddit
It's a sign you're getting older, even your parents would have referred to the good ol days as would their parents too.
FondantOutside8682@reddit
£5 subway foot long
CarpeCyprinidae@reddit
10-16 years ago is 2 years and 8 years after the banking crash, so the economy wasnt great compared to what it had been, but we were still in the EU and had so much potential and so many opportunities that are now absent
Economy-Judgment-754@reddit
Chavs, no all you get is deep voiced roadmen
MushroomVolcano@reddit
They're still chavs.
LayerComprehensive21@reddit
Lmao we didn't know how good we had it.
PaulMaSchlong@reddit
When we were a Christian country not Islamic
Intelligent_Boot6023@reddit
I'm 34 and left the UK about 8 years ago to move to the US (wife is Texan). I dread returning to the UK, it's absolutely gut wrenching how bad it's gotten. Last time I went back I was in the car with my dad and was pointing out the state of everything - this was a quiet nice place in Scotland. He asked me to stop because it was making him sad, I think British people have been frog in the boiling pot. You don't realize how bad it's gotten because it's been one steady thing after another. When you see half a decade of change at once it's shocking. The quality of living and income disparity with the USA is absolutely insane, you look to me today how I used to look at poor former soviet countries in the 2000's.
I'm going to hold on to my childhood memories, because they were happy, the place I grew up in was wonderful, the people I grew up with were great.
I could go into detail but Reddit bans you if you dare talk about the real problems.
Valherudragonlords@reddit
Seeing friends without having to plan weeks ahead hits close to home. Just this Friday I was hot by a real sadness I couldn't just message someone to hang out and do nothing. I do have friends, and I don't have plans with them over the next few months, but its not the same
In my twenties if me and my friends weren't at work, we were together.
Covids-dumb-twin@reddit
Nightclubs.
durontochele@reddit
The days before austerity
Proud_Temperature_55@reddit
Being 10 to 15 years younger
snavej1@reddit
Weird but I miss my old building at work. It was over 200 years old. It was further from the railway station so I was forced to get exercise walking to it. That was good for my health. Anyway, the rent became too expensive. The building was demolished and redeveloped. Now I'm in a different building near the station.
coldbeers@reddit
Optimism, fun, actual comedy.
Necessary-Nobody8138@reddit
It being British
FeDUpGraduate87@reddit
House prices, diesel prices and having my dog by my side!
CeeApostropheD@reddit
There seemed to be more hope, people had better attitudes towards each other, prices were more reasonable. I think it's more a Covid thing than a half-generation thing. We didn't bounce back properly.
RabTheCrab@reddit
Absolutely nothing. Life for me was the exact same 15 years ago as it is now because I never go out the house. Early 20s should be the best times of your life but its just a blank void looking back
Careful_Feedback_168@reddit
2 things.
A song that takes me back is lost in stereo by all time low as its what got them known here.
Then the other thing i miss is doctor who being known for actually being a decent show.
itslioneltribbey@reddit
I agree with a lot of the top comments but just to add another:
People more watching TV to the published schedule.
I don’t have loads in common with some friends or family after time apart - but all of us somewhat in sync to a popular show just kept you all a bit more connected with a shared topic.
Trying to think of things to talk to my sister about now is way harder.
DrSalts@reddit
There just seemed to be more respect and common decency really.
Worth_Divide621@reddit
Being able to be spontaneous and decide to just go somewhere, being able to turn up without thinking about booking first.
rtrs_bastiat@reddit
Being single
Jakeyboy5460@reddit
You get older. Things slow down. People go out less, drink less. I used to be out on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. And could easily bounce back and be in work for my shift no problem. Now it takes me two weeks to recover. Covid reset a lot of things. Working from home became the norm. The office vibe died. People have families now. It's all ok. Look back and smile. :-)
JordiLyons1234@reddit
People being themselves and happy. No TikTok or any of that nonsense. People actually taking to each other.
Caddy666@reddit
peak of being in a relationship. just finished my MSc, just got a job, after being skint for a long time. life was starting to feel like it had a point after struggling for so long.
generally everything was better, people had money to go out and do things, and thats not mentioning all the state of things we've become as a country.
MoustyM@reddit
MDMA
Lynvor@reddit
Optimism
EstateNo2228@reddit
The music. I'm convinced that a lot of newer songs in the charts are shorter in length? Like can't our attention spans not focus for the whole song?
Topshop (and I know they are trying to bring stores out but it's not the same 😭) it was my longest time in retail at that place when Joni jeans were a hit guys wore the beige chinos.
the optimistic care free mindset that I had. I didn't know what I was doing but was kind of happy with the here and now and didn't mind not knowing where I'd end up next? Now there isn't a day that goes by where I question what am I doing with life and making money
Having a social life. Obviously more affordable to go out then but I was the friend that always took the digital camera out and then uploaded the photos onto Facebook the following day and I know times have changed but I don't have girly mates to go out with anymore 🙈
Choice-Demand-3884@reddit
My 32 inch waist
Bjc93Bjc@reddit (OP)
What’s a 32 inch waist?
Bjc93Bjc@reddit (OP)
This was me being absolutely sarcastic because I wish I had a 32 inch waist
asymmetricears@reddit
A measurement for trousers size. It's implied the commenter used to have that waist size back then, but is now a little larger.
Source: the exact same has happened to me.
Iamleeboy@reddit
I was 32 inch all my adult life. Then when we had our first kid I no longer fit in any of my jeans and had to go up to 34.
That was 10 years ago, so this tracks for me.
I finally managed to lose some weight after trying for years and I got back in 32 again. It felt like a huge achievement after being in the 34 inch wilderness for so long!
PowerEffective4211@reddit
Fat lol
RuneClash007@reddit
32inch waist for a male absolutely isn't fat
This_Palpitation6617@reddit
I’ve had a 32 waist for the past 20 years recently gone to a 30” waist so I must be doing something right.
FairAd4560@reddit
Or you’re ill?
This_Palpitation6617@reddit
That’s the one been on the stress depression diet I don’t recommend at all
SnooMacarons4225@reddit
10 years ago I had a 32” TV, I’ve now got a 50”, I feel my waistline has grown at the same rate
Lost-Engineering-211@reddit
Houses were affordable. Would gave bought one. (I was 11 years old 15 years ago)
Exotic_Article913@reddit
It's not only night out prices which is shite thing. It's a culture shift.
I honestly hate to be that guy but immigrants have played a huge part. I have a lot of friends who are scared to go for a night out due to the gangs of African and middle eastern guys who are basically waiting for them to be drunk to try and take advantage in city centres all across the country.
The government seems to be actively fucking over everyone they can, at every opportunity.
People can't afford houses, mortgages have become un-attainable unless someone dies plus you have savings and a good job.
More people began just accepting the status quo. Where I'm from was rough growing up . There's still issues but it's not what it was. People got roped into getting high and staying indoors, glued to their dopamine devices more than the previous 3 decades.
FearlessLime8089@reddit
This might be more like 20 years, but people queuing at the bus stop. “No, you first.” “No, you first.”
james8807@reddit
10p freddos. The smell of a new magazine. Pop music. A general excitement that the future is gonna pop off.
Soft-Reflection6859@reddit
I don't recall being uncertain about the future. There wasn't the dread that AI, politics and that sort of thing brings.
tooskinttogotocuba@reddit
Town centres
FigureSubstantial970@reddit
Town centres are still a thing, it’s just no one uses them anymore.
Apprehensive-Biker@reddit
I miss the street party from William and Kate’s marriage, whole street in each others houses drinking music good times kids all playing together …. Didn’t even know anyone but all felt very English , now a days everyone is quiet and hides at the curtains 🤔
JCW9525@reddit
Just……just being happy.
Lollygagger105@reddit
Day return on the train being £32 rather than £90+ it is now
Lollygagger105@reddit
Pubs and pub gardens. Knowing there would always be people willing to go to the pub. Affording several drinks in the pub. Maybe even buying rounds with a crisp £20 note.
Xenozip3371Alpha@reddit
Guylian Seashells being 4 packs for £10
They cost £7.50 each now.
itsaride@reddit
New Peep Show episodes.
Striking-Speaker2609@reddit
I miss the high street! Going out with friends in a Saturday shopping having food, where the restaurants weren’t all chains. And going on a night out, our town had about 20 really good bars and clubs, I left and moved out and when I came back to visit family a couple of years later everything had closed down. Also the need to record every damn thing .. these faux influencers rile me, just live your lives without posting what you are doing.
reverandglass@reddit
15 years ago: Xbox 360, DVDs, the cost of things.
10 years ago: Still having hope that voting to leave Europe would actually change something, still young enough to recover from injuries, the cost of things. But also, 2016 was a really bad year, so we thought, which killed a weirdly large number of celebrities.
AffectionatePop05@reddit
Europeans.
I live in a part of London that was a hub for young EU citizens who'd moved over to work. The place was vibrant with folk from all over Europe.
The millennials that came over were the last generation, the next generations are going elsewhere.
ollyollyollyoioioi@reddit
People don't care about littering, which means they are fine with it. It's always been a problem, but I never used to witness people make a mess and walk away, or someone drop something they were finished with. I call it out every time I see it, and it never ends the way I hope. Everyone always gets defensive as if they have the right to do what they want. I've nearly been in trouble a few times. Some people say sorry and pick it up, but I think they only do it because I've intimidated them, and then I feel like the bad guy again. I'm not gonna scrap over an empty can of Coke. I only want to make a scene, and hopefully that would be enough to make someone think before they do it again. It's shameful. I try not to take it personally, but I go picking on my days off and get riled up when I see litter that wasn't there the day before. Not only have I developed an eye for noticing it when I'm out and about, but I am now hyper-aware of a timeframe in which it could have been littered. I can't take my dogs out without turning into a discarded item detective
oO_Mister_J_Oo@reddit
Two Genders.
lokiinspace@reddit
How silly is this? Non-binary, trans and intersex people have always existed.
oO_Mister_J_Oo@reddit
Trans is binary. Non-binary is just a desperate attention seeking.
justwindcone@reddit
Intersex people have existed since the existence of human beings.
Pippin4242@reddit
Boring
oO_Mister_J_Oo@reddit
It’s funny that science is so triggering.
Bitter_Comb_347@reddit
I cant say my answer cause itll get removed. But everyones thinking it...🤣
BigSkyFace@reddit
I miss living in the same place as all my friends and us having enough spare time to meet up a couple of times a week. Almost all of my friend group moved back to our hometown after uni and we hung out a lot back then. We all gradually started getting better jobs that required relocating, and ended up settled in different cities, or even countries.
We've all kept in touch and see each other when we can, but I think it's probably been nearly a decade since we were all in the same room. Almost all of us are in long term relationships but the only person to get married did a small ceremony with just his family, so we haven't even had weddings to bring us all together like other friend groups would have.
euperia@reddit
Record shops, although that's probably 20-25 years ago now.
NewDate6115@reddit
They're still around.
euperia@reddit
Oh I know, but not as many and not as local.
insanityarise@reddit
Rough trade is kinda wank too, very pricey, splinters on my fingers. And what on earth is "out rock"? They clearly meant "alt rock" but someone didn't have the guts to correct the owner.
Educational-Angle717@reddit
I think be careful here - Reddit will tell you that no one goes out anymore, the pubs are dead, but thats not true, People do and there is alot and I mean alot of life there.
mmm095@reddit
I miss when businesses still prioritised good customer service rather than seeing how much money they could possibly squeeze out of people.
I also miss how you could buy cheap things that weren't necessarily crap but expensive things were almost always good quality. with enshittification none of that holds true anymore. everything's shite, everything's expensive, everything's just a means to get people to pay as much as poss while providing as little as poss
I miss when screentime was more controlled and phones didn't have such a hold over us. between scrolling and netflix, my attention span is absolutely shot and I know an entire generation's brain chemistry has also been affected in the same way
Davman65@reddit
I miss having the money that I had back then.
bustedwomb@reddit
Sugar in my drinks.
insanityarise@reddit
Try A.G. Barr, 10g sugar per serving.
DanDiCa_7@reddit
Lucozade Orange................ I'd do anything for one of those right now
bars_and_plates@reddit
No / basically no smartphones.
Everything else is trivial in comparison I think. Just the weird feeling of people being around you but not with you. Hate it.
grae3333@reddit
Bluetooth or infrared to send music from your phone to your mates phone or vice versa
samworthy85@reddit
Maybe stretching it to 20 years ago, but getting 20 cigs, a chip barm and my body weight in booze and still having 40p to get from Wigan to Horwich when College finished. All out of a crisp 20 pound note.
Winter_Structure663@reddit
Being part of the EU
jacksleepshere@reddit
Arne Slot wasn’t the Liverpool manager.
MoveOutside3053@reddit
Avowedly racist thugs being largely marginalised.
welshiec123@reddit
Still definitely a thing
insanityarise@reddit
I had hair
Green_Lychee8221@reddit
Not much. There was a financial crash and it was an absolute bloodbath of redundancies. Not having a job and money puts a downer on a lot, and pretty much everyone was preparing for the cut.
trtzbass@reddit
I’m European and moved to the Uk in 2008 and I’ve seen it change so much. When I moved here I remember thinking: “here’s what I really like about British culture- you can politely disagree with other people and still be civil about it and be friends with them regardless.”
Needless to say, things are much different now, eaten by the cancer that’s social media, propaganda and the weird idolatry of dubious people.
For what it’s worth, I came to Britain without knowing much about it, I’ve experienced it and saw how sadly things changed for the worse. I miss the way it was.
-Xserco-@reddit
Being in the EU, optimistic about my future career and being able to explore the world when I am older.
Optimistic about Scotlands independent future with the EU.
The illusion that the people in charge had my best interest.
The illusion that adults both knew what was happening and cared about humanity succeeding (people absolutely do no care about anyone other than themselves).
Believing that the world was fair and not at all rigged to the highest degree.
Parks.
People being environmentally concerned.
Theft being lower.
People were more connected through forums and smaller rooms online... which leads to my next point
TikTok didnt exist. I was worried about the rot of Snapchat. Boy, my fears were right. But like, 10X worse.
Video game development was way way wayyyy better. Peaked. By a landslide. Everything felt unique even if it wasnt for me.
The dying, but at least existent Socialism aspects of life. Aka. Welfare state and NHS.
Derfel60@reddit
I miss just being able to rock up to my mates house without so much as a text message, walk up to his shed and hang out with the entire friend group who were already there. Now if i want to see anyone i have to plan it 6 months in advance and not everyone can ever make anything all together theres always at least 2 people missing.
I miss not giving a shit about anything, doing stupid shit and going on adventures. Breaking into places to smoke weed, burning my mates parcel shelf for a laugh, walking the county late at night to get to a house party only to bump into someone and go on a side quest with them for 3 hours. Now everyones worried about prison and their jobs and their driving licenses.
I know thats just being young and stupid but i miss being young and stupid. If the old me could see me now, investing in pensions and pottering around the garden, hed be ashamed.
bahumat42@reddit
So part of what you are experiencing is age.
That always just sort of happened.
But you are also not wrong that it's worse than it used to be.
As for what I miss. Hope.
It used to be something people had but it seems like everyone is ground down.
Gillingas@reddit
There are plenty of things better about the UK 10-15 years ago, but what you’re describing is 100% about getting older and having more responsibilities. Look at the comments of any YouTube vid of a classic 90s dance tune for exactly the same conversation about the 90s (and many of those comments are 10 years old).
steeperturtle@reddit
The choice to choose a cheap thing or expensive. Food, travel, nights out.
FilmFanatic1066@reddit
The cost of housing
throwawayra202407@reddit
I really miss the 2012 Olympics! I was 16, had just finished my GCSEs, and the whole country felt so optimistic and inspired.
broadarrow39@reddit
No little twerps with scarves round their faces sharking about on ebikes
Skidchen@reddit
I miss Harry Hills TV burp !!!
I miss everyone having the same TV channels and it being a point of cultural reference . You could go into school the next day and talk about a show and be sure that someone else had seen it.
Everything felt more connected.
Zubi_Q@reddit
No culture war. Everything posted on fb and twitter is rage bait now. It's so depressing. I miss when social media was fun. I just mainly post and use reddit now
Strong_Muffin3941@reddit
It's not you. Transferring wealth up the foodchain got serious in 2007 and it's not slowed down since. It's killed the joy in the country. Normal people can't afford anything.
Sea-Still5427@reddit
A six-figure salary and pre-menopausal energy levels.
MiserableWinter636@reddit
No tik tok shite
RuneClash007@reddit
TikTok was definitely around 10 years ago, either as Musically or Vine, if not TikTok itself
keyholes@reddit
Fascism not being in fashion.
No-Slide-5505@reddit
Mate....1980s would blow your mind
MeasurementFew4314@reddit
As a broad generalisation,being young enough to go out and enjoy myself whenever I wanted while having enough money to sustain that as a lifestyle.
fiveofspades94@reddit
Probably the lack of AI and my own personal awareness (or ignorance) that politicians/the world is pretty shit.
Ecstatic_Lion4224@reddit
Nationally, before social media culture war bollocks became so dominant.
Personally, not much. My life and career have progressed, my friendships have solidified via more shared and deep experiences and with age comes the freedom and confidence to pursue what really interests you. I am a happier person now than I was then.
Japhet_Corncrake@reddit
Being a part of the EU.
Choice_Technology791@reddit
People taking their backpacks off on the tube. And fewer lunatics on bikes. Both symptoms of the increasingly sociopathic nature of many people post COVID.
nerdyyy2773@reddit
the prices of chicken shops
yourefunny@reddit
Isn't meeting mates and random nights out more of a 20s thing anyway? Everyone settles down and has kids. So plans need to be made in advanced and parents don't party as often. Also depends where you live. I know my mates in London still have random nights out that stem from afternoon drinks on a Thursday or Friday, even with kids. Just not a thing if you live in the countryside like me.
Candid-Bike-9165@reddit
Decent community policing
tx1998@reddit
Politics being less sectarian and politicians being more grown up/lack of concern about ‘woke’/culture wars. Much more affordable cost of living, social media being more primitive, being in the EU, socialising with others/nightlife being more engaging.
Plane-Information-51@reddit
Getting old sucks but everybody’s doing it
jdsuperman@reddit
Soft drinks before the sugar tax
Fun_Creme4591@reddit
Being able to love and stand up for our country without being jailed for it.
Efficient-Tower-7224@reddit
These days they arrest you and throw you in jail just for loving your country
razza357@reddit
Can you give an example of when that's happened recently?
jaybizzleeightyfour@reddit
Reasonably priced food
Murky-Asparagus9532@reddit
good junk food
Doritos are just sad now, many other crisps have suffered too
fast food joints are not just worse value for money they are just worse
all frozen pizza brands have somehow converged on a handful of types/toppings of which half are pepperoni based
BadMachine@reddit
i don’t know, i think junk food has always been a bad choice, even when it was cheaper
Murky-Asparagus9532@reddit
it did at least to make a sort of sense when it was both cheaper and tastier
xycm2012@reddit
People seemed less ignorant, bigoted, and entitled. And if they were, they kept it to themselves.
SPST@reddit
No its just age. I went through the exact same thing in my thirties.
asymmetricears@reddit
Pints for £3
BarryTownCouncil@reddit
My daughter
powpow198@reddit
Not much as i was broke as fuck, working my bollocks off and living in a shared house. Post 2008 recession sucked.
FrostyImplement9565@reddit
I was happier being alone now it’s killing me
Optimal_Parsnip_348@reddit
Less social media and digital consumption
jasminenice@reddit
This is a very Cheshire specific reference but visiting the Ice Cream Farm wasn't so damn complicated and costly back then. Like you could just park up, walk into the parlour and get an ice cream and enjoy your day, now it's all orders via an app and a drive-thru, the rest of the site you have to pay to get into and I've no idea if parking is free or not anymore. Been looking into taking my child there for a day out but it just felt overwhelming trying to work out in advance what I'd need to pay for (you have to pay for them to use each separate play attraction as well as pay an entry fee I think?). Days out shouldn't be so stressful.
R_Eyron@reddit
I miss everything not being reliant on the internet and 2 factor authentication, it felt simpler. Other than that, life now is 1000x better in my 30s than it was in my late teens, so I wouldn't go back.
irv81@reddit
15 years ago I could sprint the length of a rugby pitch (despite being 18 stone) and not have a cardiac arrest!
BirthdayBoth304@reddit
Optimism. People being less overtly shitty/aggressive towards one another
Disastrous-Theme-208@reddit
I'm mid 30s.
No phones at gigs
Proper nightlife in town, wasn't too long ago bank holiday Sunday night would be an hour queue to get into local club, can just walk straight in now it's so dead
Social media not being about portraying a fake life.
Football was so much better too, completely ruined by VAR now.
Pre woke age. So much woke nonsense has crept into the world it is absolutely absurd. Prime example from couple days ago, idiots on social media criticising police for kicking an armed terrorist in the head. Companies/people having to apologise for the most minor woke things as it's seen as the "right" thing to do.
jasminenice@reddit
It wasn't just idiots on social media, it was the leader of the Green party too!
Electrical_Wish_8530@reddit
Busy high streets.
ImTalkingGibberish@reddit
People wouldn’t do shit just to film and life was affordable
Beginning-Poet-2991@reddit
Cheeky Nandos instead of The cheek of Nandos.
0800happydude@reddit
Social media not being as prevalent, toxic and addictive.
Lunaspoona@reddit
£10 all you can drink on a sat night! Social media was nothing like it it is now so not it felt a bit more free on a night out.
I do miss being young, but I am glad I was young then and not in these times.
Any-Republic-4269@reddit
Being in the EU
Jlaw118@reddit
I keep thinking about how much I miss music of that time, and keep recently rediscovering songs from the 2010s that I forgot about, but just how different they sounded compared to the horrible stuff that’s in the charts now.
My Mrs had Radio 1 on in the car yesterday and I just kept thinking “what is this noise?” And “how did we get to this in the last ten years?”
jasminenice@reddit
Some of us never left that era of music, it's very rare I listen to something new these days, and if I do it's usually from an artists that existed in the 2010's era anyway. With you on radio 1, it made me feel so old and out of touch not knowing what any of the noise was, and I'm only 33 😂
quartersessions@reddit
Communal areas just felt a bit more alive.
Town centres, pubs, clubs - they all just feel a bit hollowed out now, as if there's just not the people to fill them. I've been in two cities over the weekend and they felt.. dead.
scuppered_polaris@reddit
Car culture was more DIY, body kits, sound systems, paint jobs,engine swaps. French hatchbacks, Fast vauxhalls and fords.
gourmetguy2000@reddit
Cheaper travel and destinations not being rammed out no matter what time of year
5minute_daft@reddit
Not specific to the UK but there were less streaming options which i think is actually better. There is so much choice now that it takes ages to find something to watch.
Alcohol was cheaper 10-15 years ago. Cigs were cheaper. Sugar laden things were cheaper. Everything fun is so heavily taxed now. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Let me enjoy stuff!
Slight_Credit810@reddit
No AI and not everyone being chronically online
unabatedshagie@reddit
Decent chocolate. I’d love a Dairy Milk from then.
cococats@reddit
Lea social media and phone addiction. I'm as bad as anyone and I hate myself a little bit for it yet here I am...
jasminenice@reddit
Same mate, you're not alone with that feeling.
rustytoe178@reddit
Not paying £1000pm for a room in London
I_like_Your_Face500@reddit
Money went a lot farther! Wish I'd saved a bit more back then, incidentally. Partied it all away! Was fun tho!
tellemhey@reddit
Junk nightclub Southampton
ClickerKnocker@reddit
SO many great nights at Junk! Sorely missed.
Bjc93Bjc@reddit (OP)
I’m from Southampton too - yes I agree.
haonowshaokao@reddit
You didn't have to see people celebrating the death of vulnerable migrants every day.
PaulaDeen21@reddit
Being 10-15 years old.
loverofthebeautyful@reddit
That my money would go further and life seemed less stressful
Darkgreenbirdofprey@reddit
Outdoor social experiences with friends with enough time and money to do them.
Winter_Structure663@reddit
Going to the supermarket and not worrying about the cost. Going to the pub. Taking a 2 week foreign holiday. Ringing a tradesman and actually getting them to answer.
ButterflyRoyal3292@reddit
The inetneter in the 2000's. What a golden age, YouTube before Google bought it, MySpace, Google before censorship.it was brilliant
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
Didn't take me half a year and nearly 400 CV's sent to get a job. Last time I applied, about 15 years ago, It took two weeks to find work in my niche.
Kayakayakski@reddit
1.99 mcd vouchers.
chocolateybiscuit81@reddit
Mostly my ripped abs. Also, being able to stay awake past 9pm.
boredsittingonthebus@reddit
The bit about staying awake after 9pm is obviously a lie, given that you posted this at approx 10:25pm.
This is casting doubt on the credibility of thos ripped abs.
kaja6583@reddit
The prices
Direct-Release1512@reddit
Community and life in local areas and shops...
EyeAware3519@reddit
I wasn't old
ttoettoe@reddit
My friends weren't inadvertently exposing their negative racial biases by feeling pressured to virtue signal about how not racist they are on the internet
RiceeeChrispies@reddit
UK music charts not being dictated by whatever song is popular on TikTok that week.
lost-in-midgard@reddit
My industry growing, instead of being replaced by AI.
coffeewalnut08@reddit
I feel like life back then felt more united (socially, culturally) and there was more empathy and considerate behaviour.
prankishink@reddit
Optimism for the future
littleboo2theboo@reddit
I don't think too much has changed. I miss being in the EU and having freedom of movement in Europe. I miss not having the feeling of anxiety that I do now about the future of the world
EmuComprehensive8200@reddit
I felt safer on nights out and getting the night bus alone as a woman.
Also, there were places to actually go to for nights out 🤣
Wales147@reddit
Having money left over from payday, now even a takeaway is an occasional treat
BeardySam@reddit
Social Media was social.
GettingTherapissed@reddit
Literally nothing you described is unique to the UK. You are describing getting older.
justwindcone@reddit
They never claimed any of it was unique to the UK though, their experience just happened to be in the UK
Big_Translator7475@reddit
Turkey Twizzlers and Creamy Cheese Nik Naks.
Choice_Knowledge_356@reddit
We seemed to have more money on lower salaries. We could afford to eat out as a family once a week and have a takeaway.
bryan_rs@reddit
The EU.
soggyarsonist@reddit
Stuff mostly working instead of a feeling that everything is broken and on the edge of collapse.
CauseOptimal8501@reddit
Nothing much. My late teens were awful and my brain hadn’t developed fully. So, I prefer it now.
jb-safc@reddit
Blockbuster Gamestation Mitre Ultimax Champions League on ITV
NobleRotter@reddit
My Dad
Terrible-Stick-2179@reddit
Being able to afford to live as a single person. when 4 pints of milk was 1.20, when freddos were 5p, The nightlife
Frostyballschilly@reddit
The prices
periel99@reddit
Need For Speed Underground 2
Equivalent_Half883@reddit
The music. Wed sesh. Cheap nights out.
quudle@reddit
I think it’s a bit of both. Getting older naturally means less spontaneity and more planning, so that carefree feeling fades anyway.
But the UK does feel different too, mostly because everything’s more expensive and a bit more tense than it used to be. Nights out and just “winging it” don’t feel as easy now.
So yeah, some nostalgia, but not completely imagined either.
SnooMacarons4225@reddit
Cheap freddos
Shoddy_Juggernaut_11@reddit
Omg yes, I've just had one, they're tiny too
RattyHandwriting@reddit
Being a size 12 and not having to take joint supplements
Celtic_Cheetah_92@reddit
My rotator cuff just pinged in agreement
WhatsThePlanPhil95@reddit
When Cadburys was good. When Coco Pops Rocks were a thing. Oh and wen Ricicles were a thing
KatVanWall@reddit
Well, my kid was born ten years ago this summer, so that was a bit of a watershed moment for me personally tbh. Like, everything about my life changed at that moment, and then one year later I was getting divorced and it all changed even more. I guess life was easier before in some ways, but I wouldn't go back if I had the chance.
Sad_Print_1580@reddit
Not needing to pee twice a night
Motor-Command-2680@reddit
I miss friends. Also cheaper food prices and bigger food portions. Everything is shrunk now in size and we are paying triple for it.
snot_in_a_jar@reddit
Going to the local every weekend and it being packed
Silver_Procedure_490@reddit
The cost of living
catninjaambush@reddit
When I got up from a chair or sat down I didn’t summon Cthulhu with the noises I made.
ExperienceRough708@reddit
Big hoop earrings and little vest tops and cargo trousers
Walkerno5@reddit
90% of it is just getting older and understanding that on a fundamental level that will save you a world of disappointment and unravellingmental health and bitterness .
SithoDude@reddit
Being able to buy a Nuts magazine,
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