Anyone looking after a parent who is not well that you had a complicated relationship with.
Posted by Unver1f1eduser@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 97 comments
Me (53M) no siblings have a mom (81) who refuses to move in with me and stays 6 hour drive away alone in my hometown.
She had a pacemaker installed 3 years ago and has also got mobility issues preventing her from leaving the house. She was a SAHM and receives a pension that covers utilities and some food while I buy the balance and pay for Healthcare.
Growing up She caused a lot of pain in my life which memories have come rushing back now that I see her in this condition. When I was 21 she was nasty to a GF who I was planning to live my life with. The GF broke up with me as a result and said she had to protect her family from my mom. We had no issues other than my mom's rejection of her. My mom never even met her and only saw a photo of us together.
4 years later when I had moved on and was ready to get married to someone else. She tried to break us up and failed. She boycotted my wedding and nobody from my moms side of the family came to the wedding.
She never visited my home even when she was in the same town and missed all her grandkids birthdays and other events although she was invited. When she had strength she would go to her nephews and nieces weddings. This really hurt me.
Now she has Noone as dad passed away 16 years ago. While I take care of her, I feel guilty that I could do more and that I still harbor resentment over how she behaved towards me when she was stronger.
Anyone else in this position and how do you cope with all these conflicting feelings and thoughts.
Secret_Computer4891@reddit
I was in this situation, also. I met a girl who tried to get along with my mom. My mom never liked the girl. I have now been married to this girl for 30 years.
Things never got better with my mom. We would go years without speaking and we were at 10 years no contact when she got ill and needed nursing care. I made the tough decision to say "nope" when it came time to help. My brother, with whom she maintained a relationship, was there for her. She died 2 years or so ago.
I said "nope" because I wasn't going to jeopardize what that girl and I built to care for someone who demonstrated she really didn't give a shit about us. It was a hard decision when I made it, it was harder when she died. But, I've come to terms with it.
Boycatmom3@reddit
Thank you for picking your wife.
Secret_Computer4891@reddit
It was the only logical choice. I'm thankful every day that I did!
Boycatmom3@reddit
My ex was one of those "but faaaamily" guys. I regret every single day that I listened to him and started talking to my mother again. If I hadn't, I wouldn't be here trying to get out again. But hey, hes dead and I'm not, so..
Public-Air-8995@reddit
IMO you did the right thing by yourself and your family.
Secret_Computer4891@reddit
I really appreciate that. I know it was, but its was a hard decision to need to make.
Elusive_strength2000@reddit
I never really held held against my parents, and there was abuse from when I was a toddler to my dad dying when I was 16 and my mom dying in 2013. I was the only one who could “handle” seeing my father dying in ICU and I barely left his side for the last 24 hours. My thinking was if I was dying I’d want someone there with me.
I dropped everything to fly across the country to assess the situation when my mother was dx with cancer, then flew back and drove back with her 3 months later once she surrendered to coming home with me. She died while I was sleeping in her hospital room a few weeks later. Less than a year before she was out to visit and stayed at my sisters house and treated me poorly which caused me panic attacks.
I just view them as human beings with their own faults and failings like anyone else myself included and with my mother despite our relationship I knew I’d have to take care of her someday because it’s the right thing to do. I have no regrets. We had a few bad fights where I regressed but I regret nothing and have peace that I did the right thing. I also have peace because I hold no grudges. I also realize that come circumstances may differ or call for a different response.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
Oh wow. user name matches
Elusive_strength2000@reddit
I must be dense bc I can’t figure that out. 🤔
Decemberist66@reddit
I just want to say that you're a good person. 🥹
Elusive_strength2000@reddit
You’re very kind. Thank you 😊.
Substantial_Layer_79@reddit
I commend you on stepping up in this situation. Your mom is six hours away and you are footing some of her costs. You need to have a serious conversation with her about the situation.
If it were me, I'd get POA and move her closer to you. (This also helps with the hard stuff later on, like cleaning out the house). She likely doesn't want to live in another person's home...I get it. I have no parents left. I took care of one for several years, though we had a good relationship. I wish you all the best.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
I live in a colder climate than her at least for 4 months so she won't manage now. It would have been easier if she moved in 10 years ago. Also my house has stairs and she needs to be near a kitchen. Thankfully she was never into collecting things.
wire67@reddit
Took care of my Mom and Dad in my house, far away and in an assisted living close to me. Leave things the way they are until she can't be on her own. The distance is probably a good thing. All your feelings are valid. Feel them, work through them and you'll be fine. You don't want her living with you I promise. Maybe look into assisted living closer to you and pull that trigger when needed. Some cities have social workers that set up visits and meals so maybe look into that if you're worried.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
We've discussed it but she knows she can't have her way in assisted living. Like she has breakfast anytime between 5am and 6am, afternoon tea at 3pm and supper between 5 and 6pm She would struggle to adapt to another timetable. So it's better she stays in her house for as long as possible and have a care giver check up on her.
Unexpectedly99@reddit
Yes and I won't go into details, but I can forgive, I'll never forget, but I can forgive, so I find myself in a similar situation, but my mother is much closer geographically.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
I thought I had moved on but one day when she was in an emergency ward and the doctors were telling her they had to admit her and she was stubborn and refused. I saw the same determined look she had when she broke up my relationships. She was back in hospital within 24 hours.
MartoufCarter@reddit
r/raisedbynarcissists might be a place for you.
ancientastronaut2@reddit
Yup
Dusty_Sequins@reddit
Oh but I could write a book. Mine lives halfway across the country and pretends now like nothing ever was wrong and our lives were all hunky dory. I did go visit her for a few hours last year when we were passing through but I can’t take much more than that and a 5 minute phone call a couple times a month. When she needed money I sent it, with the message that it has to be a one time thing, that I’m working on setting myself for retirement so that I can have a better situation when I’m that age. But neither of my siblings would send anything even though I don’t think she asked them. But I don’t want the answer so I won’t ask. Who knows what will happen when it’s time for her to either go into a home or move in with one of us, or when she eventually passes. Thankfully my deadbeat dad is already dead so I won’t have to worry about him.
Lopsided_Panic_1148@reddit
My mom is 85 and lives alone after being widowed for the third time. She doesn't want to move and has kidney disease. She lives at least two states away from all of her children.
HouseofMoops@reddit
I can relate, sort of. My mom is 83 and lives very far away from me. I’m an only child. She fully expects me to take care of her.
When I was young, my mom was my absolute hero. That is, until she met a man when she was in her fifties. They have been married nearly thirty years now. He completely changed her personality. He is a malignant narcissist and a gold digger. He changed her values so much that all she cares about now is vanity and victimhood and self-importance. She hasn’t asked me how I am doing in years. She is now, at 83, extremely petty, cruel, paranoid, inappropriate and delusional. She makes up “future” things to accuse me of. Like, in the future I’m going to kick her husband out of his own house. Huh? How? Also, why? It’s so insulting and hurtful and downright crazy. She has been giving me the silent treatment for nine months because she is so mad at me over this future fantasy crime.
I know she’s the victim of narcissistic abuse syndrome, but the way they both have treated me, especially in recent years, makes it feel impossible to care for her even after he’s dead.
So I feel for you. I worry about my mom too and I feel so damn sorry for her, but I don’t see sacrificing my mental health and my own future for her very bad decisions. I think we have a right to our boundaries. We cannot be responsible for the poor life choices and poor parenting of our folks. At the end of the day, these people are adults. They have agency. They chose to manage their relationship with their kids in a way that compromises their end of life care. That’s not your fault.
It’s okay to accept that as truth, prioritize your own life and keep some amount of reasonable distance. You owe yourself that much.
No-Doughnut324@reddit
Yeah I haven't spoken to my mother in about 5 years. She did something I can never forgive her for. My life is much more peaceful now. Carry on, man, you cant choose your family.
rosesforthemonsters@reddit
My father and I never had a parent/child relationship, not even when I was a child. I had an extremely complicated relationship with both of my parents, resulting in me going completely NC with both of them in 2003.
Fast forward to 2006, I was contacted by my father's landlord and his next door neighbor -- they told me that my mother had left him and he was in a bad way. Mind you, he hadn't spoken to me in three years, at that point. What I should have done was tell all of them to fuck all the way off. What I actually did was allow myself to be guilted into taking care of my father for the next 15 years.
My father had brain damage from a childhood injury, he was also functionally illiterate. He had the mental capacity of an eight year old child. My parents were married 35 years (+/-) when my mother moved out, took all of the furniture out of their apartment, took every dime they had in their bank accounts, and left him completely destitute. His landlord was handling his finances and robbing him blind.
When I stepped back into the picture, my father was living in a two room apartment, with no furniture, and had a box spring balanced across four dining chairs that he was using for a bed. The first time my husband and I set foot in his apartment, he had no food at all. He had been living off of convenience store sandwiches for over a year. He had just enough money in his bank account to keep the account open. His landlord was giving him $100/month from his disability check and keeping the rest to "pay his bills".
So, I took over his finances, moved him into a decent apartment, and got him back on his feet.
In 2015, my husband and I moved him into our house. We gave him the entire attic to live in, full use of our kitchen, and laundry machines. He had no bills, didn't have to buy his own food, and my husband drove him anywhere he needed to go. He gave me $500/month to live in my house. I bought his food, made sure he had clothing and shoes, scheduled his doctor's appointments and went with him to every appointment.
I was basically living his life for him.
In return, he made our lives a living hell.
Having him living with us was all fine and good for about two years. When it went bad, it went bad in a hurry. And to this day, I couldn't tell you what exactly that the turning point was. We had an argument one day, that he instigated, and it was all downhill from there.
My father and my husband didn't speak a single word to each other for two years. My father started referring to my husband as "Hitler" on a regular basis. That's when my husband told me that, if I didn't get my father out of the house, he was going to file for divorce and move out.
It took another year and a half to get him out of my house. I even got the Office of Aging involved, which, unbelievably, just made the situation worse. The rep from the OOA told my father that he had to move out of my house because he was being abusive to me and my family. He told him that after I specifically and adamantly told him not to do that until I actually had a place for my father to move to. After the OOA rep made the situation 1000 times worse than it already was, he stopped taking and returning my calls.
I was so stressed out that my hair was falling out, I'd lost so much weight that my co-workers thought I had cancer, I was in tears every single day. My father and I were literally having hours long screaming fights with each other every day. He threatened to hit me, at one point. I told him to go ahead and do it so I could have him arrested and get him out of my house.
I finally found an apartment for him and moved him out. Three weeks later, he had a bowel rupture and spent 2+ weeks in intensive care. He somehow pulled through and was more hateful and mean than ever.
We were barely on speaking terms after that, even though I was still handling his finances.
I found him dead in his apartment on June 19, 2021. He had refused all medical treatment about a year prior and stopped taking his meds about six months prior. He basically committed a very slow suicide.
His death came as a huge relief to me.
Boycatmom3@reddit
> His death came as a huge relief to me.
I'm still waiting for a single tear over my moms death. Honestly, I lost a bitch, not a mother figure. I can't even fake a tear.
rosesforthemonsters@reddit
The only tears I shed when my father died were tears of relief. It was like an enormous weight had been lifted off of me and I could breathe again.
Boycatmom3@reddit
Can relate.. *hug*
tangledweebledwevs@reddit
That sounds absolutely horrible. I'm sorry you went through such an ordeal. How are you doing now?
rosesforthemonsters@reddit
I'm doing very well. Thank you for asking.
burnitalldown321@reddit
Thank you. Your story is why I will never take in my father
Apprehensive-Ad4244@reddit
Yep, I kept him clothed and fed to the minimum standard, just like he did for me. I'm glad he's dead, sucks to suck I guess
TC_Stock@reddit
Went through that with my mom.I was never beaten or neglected as a child but moms behavior definitely caused me issues as an adult. I didnt fully understand it until I had to get therapy for my anxieity, OCD and catastrophizing and the therapist made it clear where all my mental health problems came from. It all made sense. Caring for her when she was dying from alzheimers was brutal. Covid was actually a blessing because it gave me an excuse not to go see her. By the time I no longer had that excuse mom had forgotten who I was which was a huge relief for me.
AbjectHyena1465@reddit
Awful manipulative parents do not get better with age. Parents are not all that they’re cracked up to be. Neither are narcissistic and alcoholic pyscopathic sisters. Such a RELIEF when both parents died. Everything was super shadily left to 3 of my sisters out of 6 kids. They wanted blood money and property… they deserved every penny of it! Good.Freaking.Riddance!!
Pristine_Main_1224@reddit
((Hugs))
I had a very complex relationship with my mentally ill mother. I resented the assumption that I would be her caregiver/slave. I did not support her financially - we found a studio apartment in a senior living community, and she lived there. As cruel as that felt I knew I couldn’t risk having her in my home; we brought out the worst in each other.
Do what you need to do to protect yourself. It’s okay to lexplore options. Talk to your local librarians, community center staff , Area Agency on Aging, etc.
((Hugs))
Pristine_Main_1224@reddit
I am as Southern as it gets, a certificate-holding *Graces and Gentemen” graduate. I will bend over backwards for 99.9% of the people in my life. That 9. 0.01%?
I’m so over it.
It’s OKAY to draw boundaries. It’s HEALTHY! It’s ALLOWED!
silvermanedwino@reddit
This is the answer.
Academic_Airport_889@reddit
If you haven’t already, join r/AgingParents
KrofftSurvivor@reddit
I refuse to set myself on fire to keep my abuser warm.
mandoaz1971@reddit
Neither of my parents know where I live
Fozzyfox6747@reddit
I've been in this place and went NC with my father in 2024. Been happy since then and not looking back.
Back story: My parents were born in the 1930s and children during WWII in Europe. After the war they lost their homelands and were refugees in Germany. Later emigrated to America and had me.
Our family had a small restaurant as the family business and it was awful growing up in it. Between my narcissistic father and mother who just tried to hold everything together, I was not really a son, but free labor. I later escaped, joined the Army, and lead a pretty good life.
In 2006 due to my mother's decline health the restaurant closed and later sold when my mother passed away in 2007. My father had no hobbies other than work so he went back to work.
In 2019 I leaned my father was pretty much broke. Made some bad financial choices around a car, stopped paying his bills because he was broke. So I stepped in, started managing his finances, taking care of him from a distance, and adding about $15k yearly to keep him alive and healthy.
In 2020, during COVID he met a lady friend. What I leaned in 2024, after paying his bills for nearly 5 years, the once his car was paid off, and I was trying to convince him to sell it, that he got married, six months earlier and never told me, just to keep financially and emotionally extorting me; not even saying anything when I came tonciwi in person. I am no longer the teenager/young adult that needs him. So I broke contacts that day.
Fast forward to today... I finally admitted I needed therapy and between therapy and medication have been healing over the past year. I'm in a better place emotionally than I ever have been. Reclaiming my family history, without my dad's help, by piecing together our family geneology. It's been remarkably therapeutic, and allowing me to reclaim the family in a way my father never could.
Anyway, I guess the point of this is to say, that if you need to break contact to heal yourself, then you shouldn't be afraid to. There's a good life on the other side, in my experience.
ideapit@reddit
If you're doing something out of obligation at the expense of your well-being for a person who has not just been unkind, but actively sabotaged your life, you are not required to meet that obligation.
She broke the contract between parent and child, not you.
PragmaticPrime@reddit
For me - I asked myself which choice could I live with after they were gone. My mom treated me like an inconvenience, my dad made our lives hell financially and was physically abusive towards me. They fought constantly and the two of them combined made my life hell emotionally.
When Mom got cancer I offered to help and did do some things like shaved her hair off when she asked me to when it started falling out, but she refused my help otherwise. Dad was her caretaker and it seemed to me it was something of a fitting end of their relationship after Mom tried (and usually failed) to babysit Dad financially their entire marriage but she wouldn't ever leave him. He would do things like get a loan on her car without asking her for no reason other than (probably) to buy a bunch of crap he didn't need. He once asked if he could use my good credit to get a loan for a harebrained idea (I refused) and told me once he was going to kick my mom out of their house and move me in with him. Very weird dude.
I did stay up with my mom all night her last night even though she didn't know I was there because she had told me she was afraid of dying alone. I suppose you could say I chose the middle ground but I was also the one who forced them both to recognize when the chemo was no longer working.
When she died, Dad spent a ton of a money on her funeral (probably got a loan for it) and didn't allow me to be any part of it other than to show up the day of. Within a few months he was making terrible financial decisions - bought a new iPhone and an iPad "because it was good deal" and bought a newer truck even though he only has SS income. I decided I didn't want to "replace" my mom as financial babysitter and just walked away one day. He's never contacted me and I've never reached out to him. I suppose a mutual NC?
It's been about 9 years now and even though people have acted like I'm the bad guy for NC with my dad, they don't have to deal with my dad on a daily basis. They don't understand that he may seem like a great guy but behind closed doors is another issue entirely. I decided "judge not lest you be judged" was the way to go and stopped talking to those people.
So... Do whatever makes sense for your own peace of mind. If this is causing you issues that leads to more years of emotional carnage, does it make more sense if you did less or just walked away? My mom's death is when I actually began to heal. Years later now and I rarely think of her or my dad because I refuse to continue bleeding for someone else's comfort.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
It scares me that she could die alone. At least you were with your mom in her last hours.
PragmaticPrime@reddit
Technically she could die in her sleep alone and I'm wondering - is that fear about her or your own fear? Feeling like you've been abandoned (which I'm assuming that you feel that after everything that's happened) can make you hypersensitive to it in yourself so that you hope to not repeat that with someone else because you understand the pain of it.
Fight_Tyrnny@reddit
NOOOO... in fact...
My mom dumped my alchy father when I was in 7th grade. He was a terrible man to us.
I only saw him a handful of times after that, he was to busy drinking and getting it on with the ladies like he did when he was married to my mom... like a typical boomer dad for many genX. I washed my hands of him long ago.
He ended up have another heart attack \~8ish years ago which was his last. I did visit him for 30 minutes in the hospital because he was such a shirking man that he was refusing medical care so my family told me his end was near. It was nothing but weird.
The doctors tried to get me to take some responsibility for him and I said "Nope, dudes a raging alchy and I've only seen him a few times in the past 35 years".
Best thing I did in later life was completely give up on life issues that drag you down such as this guy. Never really though of him then, and still dont. I didn't engage in anything after that, my older brother (who I have also not spoken to for 10+ years becasue he was just a mini-me of my dad)...
Dont ever even think about any of them, dont care, dont let it waist time in my brain.
I would NEVER take care of a person like that, I will spent my time taking care of things that matter like my wife and kids... and my mom who also suffered.
ctmansfield@reddit
I had a similar experience with my dad. Mom passed away in 2010, Dad in 2018. He was not what I’d call a great forger and to me in particular.
In the end I let all of my shit go and was there for him even though he was never there for me.
It says more about me than it does about him in the end.
I’d say most of our generation had complex parent issues but we don’t have to perpetuate that. Let it go. Do your best. She will be gone before you know it and you’ll only be left with regrets.
Catnip_75@reddit
My friend went through this and she gave in and helped her mom till she died. Me on the other hand. My mom can rely on her favourite child. I cut ties with her years ago.
Jas62021@reddit
My mom put all her money and love on my sister.
She’s 85 now.
I hope she made her investment decision wisely because I’m not stepping in
harleenquinzel044@reddit
We refuse (me and husband) to have anything to do with my MIL. She put my husband through hell growing up. She would steal from him, lie to him, used his name for a cable bill, favored his sister over him and made sure he knew it, and bring home strange men all the time. She’s a raging narcissist who is so rude and condescending and I absolutely cannot stand her. Two days after I married my husband, she decided to fat shame me. My husband finally got up the courage to cut contact in 2023 and we have never been happier. She can rot for all we care.
Patient_Character730@reddit
Every major milestone in my life where I needed my mom there, she wasn't there, and she chose to not be there. She's said things to me about my parenting that I can't ever forget or forgive her for. She is a narcissist and a greedy money hoarder and I hope when she needs help in her older age that money is enough to sustain her because she's not getting a dime from me. It's a hard situation because I do love my mom, but if she wasn't my mom she is not a person I would want to be around at all.
demona2002@reddit
My mom was an abysmal parent to me but got things figured out by the time my much younger sister came along. She is her problem now.
Ambassador1391@reddit
As someone who had to deal with a parent who was also horrible to them, I will tell you what my therapist told me: you are obligated to make sure she has care and is safe. You are not obligated to be her punching bag.
Do what you can handle while protecting yourself. Let the rest of the family pick up the slack.
She is lucky to have a son who will help her.
JiuJitsuNinja43@reddit
Yes, I am obligated to help out my abusive narcissistic mother.
Public-Air-8995@reddit
I feel for you, same with my father 😔
JiuJitsuNinja43@reddit
I can sleep at night because I do the right thing
herringonthelamb@reddit
She'd be screwed without you
ApplicationLost126@reddit
Your mom sounds like a narcissist. The sub raised by narcissists would likely be very helpful for you therapeutically. They all manage to be the same person somehow.
I don’t know why you would feel guilty. She doesn’t sound like she deserves your help.
It does sound like you are trying to be the better person who was never there for you.
She is doing you a favour by not moving in with you. She would try to destroy every relationship you have. Do what you can to help her but do t set yourself on fire for this person.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
I did at one stage offer to bring her to the city where I live and get her own place so she does not live with me. I think she was embarrassed to move in and stay with my family on account of what she did in the past, boycotting the wedding, not coming to see her grandkids when they were born.
ApplicationLost126@reddit
You made the offer, now let it lie. The dragons stay in their caves.
I think you’re a good child to her. You have no reason to feel guilt.
Techchick_Somewhere@reddit
Why do you feel that you have to take care of her now? If you have no relationship with her as an adult, you don’t have an obligation to take care of her. It sounds like she should move into a seniors living facility where she’ll get the care she needs. Please find a therapist to help you with this. Guilt isn’t the same as love.
ShancySweener@reddit
I insisted on taking in my mom when it was clear she couldn't live on her own. She was here for five years and caused havoc. My husband developed OCD symptoms that miraculously abated a couple weeks after she was gone. (He mostly slept for the first three days.) My eldest avoided family living spaces. My youngest two were upset by how she and their daddy got along.
And when she died (almost five years after going into hospice and then transitioning to their care upon "graduation" - because the good die young), I was going through her belongings and found her writings about me in her Bible study notes. All that to say, I should've let her going into a care facility nearly 10 years earlier.
Do with that what you will.
Sending love. Willing to chat about it if it would help.
wellbalancedlibra@reddit
I took care of my mom as she was dying of cancer. She was physically and emotionally abusive to me all my life. The conflicted feelings of duty and dislike were so strong I had a breakdown. Took me years to recover.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Feisty-Lifeguard-550@reddit
My mum says that , when the parental figure is dying they always want the person who they treated the worst to look after them
Vioralarama@reddit
Yes. But there comes a point when they are so frail that the baggage settles and doesn't really affect you anymore. They feel it too, and in my case become a little nicer. I mean, I'm catching attitude today but she's not going into a verbally/emotional abusive spiel like in the old days. In return I don't give it back; that was my problem for a while, I gave as good as I got. Yeah, we were toxic.
Decades ago she hated my brother's fiance for no reason other than she's territorial and is not mindful of her emotions. She even gave my brother an ultimatum, "her or me." It was insanity. I told her she was way out of line but she didn't get it. My brother was career navy and in his 30s. He also lived across country. So he chose fiance and went low contact with our mother. A couple years later there was a family crisis with my father, and my brother went no contact with my mother AND me. Whatever.
Due-Complaint-5719@reddit
This was me. My mom and I were never close. I still made a big effort to do what I could to take care of her because that's just who I am, it wasn't necessarily about her. I sleep well knowing I showed up when no one else did and I made the effort to do what I thought was right in that situation, my conscience is clear.
archedhighbrow@reddit
I was the caretaker of a mean-spirited and difficult mother until it pitted me, and then other family members took over. My advice is to take time for yourself to decompress after being with her. It's vital.
Mjhjane77@reddit
Yes, I am the “person” who helps my mom. The favorite child is incapable. She was very neglectful to both of us but far more abusive and cruel to me growing up. I never contribute financially to her care. A year ago, I moved her to a senior community to be closer as she lived 2 hours away. She will always get the best care she can afford. I drive her to the library every two weeks and occasional thrift store shopping. My obligation is to keep her safe and that is it.
VirginiaRNshark@reddit
My mom and I had a very difficult relationship, starting from my earliest memory. As I raised my own kids, I realized that rather than being oblivious to it all (as I’d always assumed), my dad was actually fully aware of the situation and either couldn’t - or just didn’t - do anything to protect me. Now, I was genuinely busy working full time and raising two kiddos, but I admit that I wasn’t interested in expending too much effort to maintain a relationship with my parents (especially given how easy I found it to cherish my kids vs my experience as a child). For years, I worried what things would look like when their health began to fail - my only sibling & I are on the east coast, my parents were in the Midwest.
My dad was put on hospice in January and slowly deteriorated. My sibling suggested that we go for a joint visit, but I could either go then or wait until Dad needed my nursing expertise (we only get 10 days of PTO/year). In the interim, I did a lot of work on my (internal) self and found peace. I wouldn’t say that I forgave them as much as I just found that my holding onto the pain didn’t affect them in any way as they were incapable of ever acknowledging or taking any accountability for their words/action/inaction. And perhaps more importantly, I realized that holding the pain and resentment kept me stuck in a loop, preventing me from living my best life. So, I chose to let it go.
When the call came that the end was near, I went home and cared for Dad, doing what I could to ease his transition, and supported Mom as much as she seemed to want. Things progressed quickly (more quickly than the hospice nurses anticipated, even) and he passed within the week. I stayed an additional week to help Mom to get things as settled as possible. She’s determined to stay in their home as long as possible, so we’ll see how that and the next (perhaps) 20 years goes.
Best wishes for your journey.
Human_Evidence_1887@reddit
Good job releasing the pain from poor parenting. You arrested a cycle.
life-is-satire@reddit
My father wished he had 2 boys instead of one of each. I was treated like a second class citizen.
I know realize that he is on the spectrum but it broke my heart as a kid. There was other abuse that would have resulted in foster care if I reported it.
He’s changed since then but there’s no way in hell I’m wiping his ass or taking money that can go towards my young adult kids.
You’re already going above and beyond what I would do!
Sintered_Monkey@reddit
I can relate this this one. I wanted to marry my girlfriend a lot earlier than I did. As morbid as this sounds, I had to wait for my mother to die first. Well, she wasn't dead yet, but she was in a state of poor health where she couldn't ruin my marriage anymore. I had already watched her interfere with my sister's marriage, so I knew what would happen. It really isn't as easy to go no contact as people say.
She was always a very pushy, controlling person, but she got much worse with age. It turned out that she was undiagnosed bipolar. We had been watching alternating bipolar manic and rage episodes our entire lives and didn't know it. I wish she had gotten help decades before, but she didn't believe in mental health or mental illness, so she never would have done that.
Fr4nzJosef@reddit
You're already doing quite a lot for someone who refuses to move closer to you and make things easier for both of you. Protect yourself and do not feel guilty, just because someone gave birth to you doesn't excuse them being a trash human (and from your description of her behavior in your life, she is that). Takers never change, the more you are willing to give the more they will demand.
Reddiculusness@reddit
you're a better person than me, I had a mom like that and cut off contact in 1995 when my dad died . I have zero regrets , maybe she found happiness and peace in the life she led, or still leads today .
NostradaMart@reddit
You don't owe her that. why are you doing it ? she doesn't deserve it. place her in a cheap home and let her rot.
Lucky-Remote-5842@reddit
There are no cheap homes.
HousesRoadsAvenues@reddit
That is true. There really are no "cheap" assisted living or nursing homes.
Jude_the_obscurest@reddit
Unless she is mentally incapacitated theres not a lot you can do, except decide what you are willing to provide. My mother lived alone long past the time it was healthy for her to do so. Luckily we lived close so I could go if she needed something and my brother would also go help with things around the house. I tried to have a conversation with her at one point that maybe she shouldn't be alone and she didnt want to hear it. She ended up getting an acute illness and passed away a couple of months later. Your mother can live as she does because you help her. That is your choice. Withdrawing that help may push her to realize she needs to be in an assisted living place. I agree with others that having her in your home does not sound like a reasonable solution.
Nervous-Rooster7760@reddit
Biology alone doesn’t mean you are obligated to anyone. If they were shit to you and others as a kid they can reap what they planted.
HousesRoadsAvenues@reddit
Take my upvote. Although your response is harsh, it is truthful. I totally agree with you.
jaxdogg94@reddit
Amen….
JYoForReal@reddit
r/agingparents has been a lifesaver for me as I navigate becoming medical POA for my father after mom passed.
Public-Air-8995@reddit
I’m struggling and think I have burnout. (I’m seeing a psychologist not looking for advice).
I’ve been helping my elderly parents for years but now Dad is slowly slipping away and he’s mean and nasty and manipulative at times. I’ve barely coped and have had to stay away recently, I’ve been having angry outbursts to his.
He was physically and mentally abusive when I was a child and I never got over some of it. I struggle with relationships, anxiety and depression and am single and lack support myself.
My advice is watch for your own mental health, do not wear yourself thin, (a 6 hr drive is a lot, let alone caring on top). Your mother is as much priority as you choose, and sounds like you have a beautiful family also your priority
Chiccheshirechick@reddit
My narc mum died a couple of weeks ago.
We had a very complicated relationship.
The more you avail yourself the more they will take … and take again.
I had therapy to help me over the last 6 years and it did to a degree but the resentment was really acute at times.
If you can arrange care please do it. Don’t set yourself on fire to keep her warm.
Wishing you well OP.
herringonthelamb@reddit
I walked this road. Mum was a battle axe, got shit done no nonsense bad ass, successful small business, whipped husbands....STRONG personality. I was the golden child as a kid but even in that role she was a bit of a bear. I beefed up moving away (like 12,000km for decades) partly bc of her overbearing persona, some abuse by my sister etc etc.
Fast fwd 25 years and she's got stage3 cancer, my sisters have young kids and she's adamant that she's gonna fight this from her house. She needed help, my kids were going off to college so I volunteered to move back...within 6 months it was stage 4 and I was a primary carer for a hospice patient that didn't want me there, nor anyone else. She used to scream at me that she never asked me to come home etc etc. She threatened to call the cops at one point. Meanwhile I'm making all of her meals, dressing, bathing, taking her to her drs, taking her to say goodbye to all the people and places she wanted.
Then there would be flashes of appreciation between the shit storms of chemo outrage.
She had written me out of her will (upset l moved away), figured after I literally carried her through the last 6 months of her life, thought she might fix that. Nah.
From all that the takeaway was that all that old baggage can be set aside. We all carry so many crosses about our past and when a parent is facing death, it doesn't serve either of you to keep the score from all those decades. She won't change but you can now control how things impact you.
One thing that might help the two of your bridge the chasm is to start taking her aural history. I recorded hours and hours of conversations w my mum, with her permission, staying from her earliest memories, asking questions to draw out the old stories and letting her run when she got going. It was awesome. I learned so much about why she was the way she was, why the men in her life had always put her wishes last, dating stories, old recipes...it was very bonding for both of us.
Good luck 🤞
Public-Air-8995@reddit
That sounds absolutely hellish and yet you rose to it, and above it! I’m in awe.
I say this as I’m struggling. I’ve been helping my elderly parents for years but now Dad is slowly slipping away and he’s mean and nasty and manipulative at times. I’ve barely coped and have had to stay away recently, I’ve been having angry outbursts to his. He was abusive when I was a child and I never got over some of it, psychologically.
I think I have burnout
herringonthelamb@reddit
Yeah you definitely need to approach their anger/abuse w a different lens. My mum's outbursts were about her losing control of literally everything when her entire life was her w her hands on all the levers. Once I saw it like that I couldn't reflect her anger anymore. Redditors being all "yeah fuck her" will have a very different attitude in 30 years.
And before you lionise me, mums death and my omission from the will destroyed my relationship w my sisters etc so there's always a price to pay.
QuarrieMcQuarrie@reddit
Yes, my mother - for whom nothing I did was of any value, use etc because I didn't provide her with a grandchild and have my own opinions. She was horribly narcissistic when I was growing up and very jealous of my relationship with my dad. Her son was bailed out many times over his life and could do no wrong.
I will say that she's mellowed considerably and now says she thinks I'm marvellous 🤷♀️. So I do what I need to do- she's 7hours away so I have a lot of road trips.
Specialist-Salary291@reddit
My husband and I moved in with my parents the last two years they were alive (the died a year apart). My daughters wanted assisted living instead which they couldn’t afford. I had a difficult relationship with them too - too many mistakes in their eyes but once we were all together they thought that I too was marvelous I don’t think I could have done it with criticism. I waited on them hand and foot, it was my last gift to them and myself.
newwriter365@reddit
I’m a mom and this breaks my heart. I also have a difficult relationship with my mom and I live over 800 miles away from her. Your mom sounds like an awful person and I’m sorry that you feel like you owe her anything.
I call mine once a month and allow her to blather on about the weather, the neighbors and their kids and then I ask her how my brother’s family (which lives near her and relies on her for financial support), and then I hang up and get on with my day.
I have three kids who are interesting, funny and haven’t seen or spoken to her in years. Her loss, not theirs.
Please don’t waste another minute of your life waiting for her to show you what love looks like. Go find your own happiness.
Public-Air-8995@reddit
Love this!
yanknga@reddit
OP check out the sub r/agingparents. It’s very helpful and full of people in situations.
Prestigious_Fox213@reddit
I’m sorry you’ve been through that with your mum.
With my father it’s been fairly easy. After years of putting up with him, I finally cut ties and walked away. He has other children (from his third marriage) who he’s always favoured. When his health eventually deteriorates, they can look after him.
With my mum, it’s more complicated. I suspect she was dealing with depression throughout my childhood (Silent Generation -so, of course there was no diagnosis.) She made it clear from when I was very young that she’d never wanted children, and she talked openly about having considered putting me up for adoption. I moved out for university, and never moved back to my hometown. So, I live nine hours away.
She is now 85, and is living with dementia, and is in long term care. We go down to visit her six times a year, and manage her care remotely, which I still somehow feel guilty about.
Unver1f1eduser@reddit (OP)
My mom is also silent Gen. She had to leave school at 16 to work to support her family and only left work when she got married. She lost her mom at 3 years old and had two step moms growing up. I've rationalized that cause she was not showed a mother's love growing up, she was so cold in breaking up or trying to break up my relationships.
Boycatmom3@reddit
Yes and I'm on my way out. I'm so over him that I'm going back home to look for housing. I've taken so much more than I should have. Enjoy your solitude dude.
Striking_Drink5464@reddit
On one side it's hard to let down a relative in need, on the other I would be tempted to let her drift in her soup. My aunt cared for her abusive mother as much as she could out of Christian sense of duty, but it undermined her physical health in an irrecoverable way. I say help, but keep a cold distance and try do develop emotional detachment and psychological support.
chicken-farmer@reddit
Hell yes. My dad was a Royal Marine Instructor. Ran his house like a base camp. Now he's 94 the boot(neck) is on the other foot.