How to apply for jobs?

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lewisluther666@reddit

Yeah, never say the company was bad. Say it's fine to move on, your ready for the next step, you want more money, you want to be closer to home... Anything like that. Make it more about improving your life positively rather than about talking about them negatively

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

Never say more money! lol

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lewisluther666@reddit

Why not? It's progression and I've never had a problem from saying that. If anything is only ever sparked better conversation with the employer. It's not like the US where your expected to work for the love of the job.

Though, I guess framing is important, I haven't ever said I want more money. It's always been through the lens that my liver is moving forward and I want to ensure more comfort on top of stability. Ég, when I was biting a goose or when each of my kids was born.

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

Are you for real?
That's one thing to say at an ainterview that will not get you hired. It shows you are greedy and will jump ship when a better paying role becomes available at another company. They will also think that they will train you and then you may leave after a month.

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lewisluther666@reddit

No it shows today you are an adult and have priorities in life. These people hiring you would have done exactly the same thing in their time.

Again, it's framing. You don't just say "I want more money" you say "My daughter is about to start nursery in a few months and we cannot afford it on my current salary."

I've always found that hiring managers are very receptive to people leaving roles for better paying jobs because that's the whole reason we are there. And it's part of the risk they are willing to take to hire the right guy. If you are the right guy they will do what they can to make you not want to go later on. But they know that very few people are 20-year hires.

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

The reason you are there is to make the company money. The hiring manager does not give a toss about if you have kids or if they are starting nursery. Your own financial problems are not their concern.

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lewisluther666@reddit

No, the reason I'm there is because I want money... Otherwise I wouldn't be in that interview for them to ask

And if they don't give a toss then the point of "why are you leaving?" becomes entirely irrelevant.

My last 2 jobs were this exact reason,I needed more money, they were offering more for the same role. I told them why I needed more money and used it to negotiate a higher salary because I shove through with experience and knowledge.

Having such a cynical opinion on this matter tells me that either you have had poor advice and are just passing it on or you have tried this and didn't get the job... In such circumstances either that manager is an AH who wouldn't be worth working for, or you didn't get it for another reason.

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

Mate, I have been working in white collar roles for big names for the last 20 years. I switch employers almost twice a year. So, that means I have had about 40 interviews.

Thank you very much!

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lewisluther666@reddit

Hold up, hold up. 2 things.

1: in those 40+ interviews, have you ever said it's good money and got declined for that reason?

2:So here I am, with my employment history of 7 years in my last role, 5 years in the previous one, and 5 in the one before that, whereas you are changing employer twice a year... And you think I'd look like I'd jump shop quickly because I mention money? Actually I'd expect that if YOU said it, it would look bad, but I have CV evidence of a history of loyalty to my employers... I think I'm pretty safe saying I'm leaving for the money.

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

Mate, you keep doing what you think is right. Whatever floats your boat.

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lewisluther666@reddit

👍

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Funky_Owl_Turnip@reddit

Tell me more about the goose

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lewisluther666@reddit

My god I hate my Google keyboard 🤣

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spreadsheet_whore@reddit

How do people get through life

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cloud__19@reddit

I don't think I've ever had to explain why I want to change jobs.

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bow_down_whelp@reddit

Seeking new opportunities

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chroniccomplexcase@reddit

Depends on the job you’re applying for. If it’s the same job title/ money but a larger company- say you want to move to a company with more potential to progress, if it’s smaller- say you want to work for a smaller company with a more “family feeling”. If it’s more money and a step up- say you are ready for more responsibility and to progress. If it’s a different job but similar field- say you want to diversify from your current role but remain within the same field. If it’s a completely different job/ field- say you realise your skills and interests lie in this area and you’re wanting to find a job that allows you to work in this new field (and then expand on this in the cover letter/ application form). Good luck

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Potential-Living-676@reddit

You don't tell them!
They will immediately think you are the problem and not hire you.

Always say that I was looking for new challenges and your role seems like it will help me achieve that.

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Jacktheforkie@reddit

Most companies don’t care about your story tbh, just apply

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CatsCoffeeCurls@reddit

The default catch all answer for this is "my current role isn't offering me enough by the way of growth and progression opportunities. While I've done X, Y, Z and it's helped everyone out in ways 1, 2, 3, I think things have been stagnating for me and it's time to think about a change".

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jean-sans-terre@reddit

I would be surprised if they even asked, and if they do as why you're leaving then focus on the positives about the new job for your reason for moving. Obviously if they're hiring, then most people they interview will be working in another company.

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MiguelBodrigo@reddit

You don't. You approach the new company with the positives with your current including skills learnt.

You're approaching the new job because they're something you value in a company and x, y, z specifically seem like a good fit for you. The interview is a place for you to showcase yourself and the company to showcase themselves.

Any negativity from a previous company is likely to make you look bad.

Think about any dating you've ever done. Do you want to hear about the ex half of the time, or would you prefer to actually know who's across the table from you?

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