Next-Gen Chevy Camaro To Offer More Than One Transmission Choice: Exclusive

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NotoriousCFR@reddit

That wording is sus. Feels like the "choices" are going to be like, an 8-speed auto and a 10-speed auto

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If true, that basically means the next CT5-V Blackwing will get a manual transmission as well. Can't decide if this is surprising or not, though I think the take rate on the current one is pretty decent.

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real_fake_hoors@reddit

Holy shit. Fingers crossed they offer it in multiple colors, too.

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itsnottommy@reddit

Chevrolet is excited to announce that the new Camaro will be available in eight thrilling colors: black, dark gray, silver, primer gray, flat white, pearl white, maroon, and navy blue.

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franzn@reddit

Looking at Mazda too here. Soul red crystal metallic is nice but give me some more fun colors instead of white, grey, beige, and a very dark blue. Give me mariner blue, sunburst yellow, BRG, etc.

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itsnottommy@reddit

Coming from a fan, Honda is guilty of this too. Still Night Pearl is their Soul Red Crystal. With a few exceptions, every other paint color in their current lineup is pretty boring.

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Equivalent-Battle973@reddit

I would feel like bright red would be an option? THe 2010 ones had some damn cool colors like Synergy green, pullmeover red, tranformers yellow, and the right awesome light blue color.

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estephens13@reddit

I once heard Matt Farrah refer to modern color options as the German rainbow and I think about that all the time lol.

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Supernova_was_taken@reddit

The funny thing is, the Germans actually have some pretty cool colors. You just have to pay out the ass for them usually

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halotechnology@reddit

Please no I love my orange hot wheels color :(

Crush

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SenTedStevens@reddit

Don't forget Gr-acing Silver.

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zitch@reddit

Aw no onyx? I guess wrapping is the future of decent colors

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Paladinraye@reddit

And when they do offer an exciting color it’s gone the next model year…

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Mimical@reddit

RIP Sand Colorado's.

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RequirementLeading12@reddit

They still have the sand colors on Colorados

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Mimical@reddit

Oh damn I thought they discontinued desert sand?

Looks like they have a lighter one called coastal dune. Well that's excellent news! Tan is always such a cool colour for trucks.

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Anhydrite@reddit

So many late 90s to early 00s Chevys in tans, kind of want my next truck to be a tan to pay homage to my S10.

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Paladinraye@reddit

How I feel about Shock on the Camaros 😢

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ThatOldEngineerGuy@reddit

Damnit. I was really hoping for a graphite option.

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itsnottommy@reddit

Best I can do is the all-new Fuck Yeah Murica Edition Camaro, available exclusively in extra-cost black paint with Star-Spangled Graphite stripes.

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PorTroyal_Smith@reddit

Does that come with punisher decals pre-installed or do I have to do that myself?

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Cessnaporsche01@reddit

Yes. And the horn just plays the guitar riff from Bad to the Bone

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BeigeChocobo@reddit

Hahaha you nailed the textbook lame stock color palette where even the blue and red are terrible.

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sc0lm00@reddit

The Mazda color palette.

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itsnottommy@reddit

Saved only by that perfect, gorgeous, sublime red. Every other color Mazda makes is boring as hell.

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elkab0ng@reddit

No Bondo grey? 😔

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kinkycarbon@reddit

Any color available as long as it is black.

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UkonFujiwara@reddit

Coming in the second model year: Gunmetal, pearl white, white pearl, carbon black, and Red™. Please note that Red™ is an EXCITING and RADICAL color, so RADICAL that it has absolutely nothing to do with its name. Red™ is, in fact, a milky-alabaster creamy ivory.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

The American car manufacturers certainly don't have a problem with colors on new performance cars.

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Penguinho@reddit

The C8 has had some really good colors so far. The orange is fantastic.

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real_fake_hoors@reddit

I’m super excited to see how many shades of grey and silver we get.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

50 Shades of Grey?

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real_fake_hoors@reddit

Offered in gloss, metallic, and matte. We also have silver bullet grey, gunmetal grey, ceramic grey, cement grey, and of course if you’re feeling fancy, white.

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chargedcapacitor@reddit

Ceramic matrix grey

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stakoverflo@reddit

Black AND white!? How will you ever decide

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JillierHaroldLamaar@reddit

Chevy has a few nice colors like Marina Blue Metallic, Sunrise Orange, and Radiant Red, so let's hope they get put on the new Camaro.

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

I hope it isn't a 4 door.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

Current rumors are 4 doors.

Nothing confirmed though.

I do wonder how they will differentiate the Camaro, and the Buick Sedan if the Camaro is a 4 door.

Obviously the CT5 will be the luxury version, but then you have 2 economy sports sedans?

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

I suspect the Buick will be like the current CT5 Sport and Premium, rocking a 4-cylinder. The Cadillac will be equivalent to current V and Blackwing, or maybe just a V8. I just don't see the point of Camaro being a 4-door with a 4-cylinder.

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FrozenUruguayBallbac@reddit

I feel the buick will probably be what you described, like a comfy living room with modest power, the camaro will be possibly both 2 and 4 door and be full Performance with no luxury just drivers car with the LT4/LT5 engines and the Cadillac will be luxury plat, V series, and then a model called the V with the N/A LTI, and then the V blackwing focused more on the S63 AMG, and the camaro against the M5/M3 which are more driver focused and buick a couch against whatever the fuck is in that space

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

The Buick will sit somewhere between the well optioned Camry and a Lexus ES

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argent_pixel@reddit

Camaro will probably get different performance trims but stuff like leather, ventilated seats, heated steering wheels and the like will be locked behind the Cadillac version.

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

Buicks have leather seats, heated steering, etc. I expect it'll lack the performance aspects like MagRide, no V8. Remember the Blackwing has a hand built LT4 engine which is why it's so expensive. I am interested to see if they swap it you a LS6 or if it continues to get a hand built engine

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caterham09@reddit

AFAIK the rumors are 4 door but that they are mulling the idea of a 2 door camaro as well. Supposedly they are hesitant to bring a 4 door sports sedan and call it a camaro (even if it's the same car)

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FSUfan35@reddit

GM shared the platform for the last Camaro and the ATS. Which they made in 2 and 4 door variants. I'm guessing it's a 2 door Camaro, a 2 door Cadillac and a 4 door Buick

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SummonerSausage@reddit

They did it in the 90s with the Lumina and Monte Carlo. They can do the same thing again, build basically the same car, but change it's name based on how many doors it has.

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cedarvalleyct@reddit

Hatchback would be a good choice. I regret selling my SS 1LE, even if my sight lines were hopes and dreams!

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itsnottommy@reddit

I wish the rumors weren't pointing to this being sedan only. IMO the Charger/Prelude liftback-disguised-as-coupe thing is the right move here.

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elon_free_hk@reddit

Agree. When I rented a Camaro, the trunk opening on the outgoing gen was horrendous.

Making it as a liftback (like my MkV Supra) would be awesome.

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Due_Entrepreneur@reddit

The 80s/90s Camaros were hatchbacks, and nobody had a problem with that feature. It's not unprecedented at all, and as you say it would make the car a lot more practical.

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The_Bucket_Of_Truth@reddit

You used to be able to say that the Corvette filled this role but now that it's mid engined what you're saying actually makes some sense.

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WaddlesJP13@reddit

I think people are blindly assuming it'll be a sedan because one guy saw that it would share a platform with two other sedans and everyone else went with it, forgetting the previous Camaro is related to Cadillac's sedans. It could be a sedan but I feel like a 2 door coupe, 2+2 coupe, or sedan with coupe variant would be more likely than sedan only.

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V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit

The rear seat size is no clearly different between 2-door and 4-door Charger, and CT4 rear seat is as tiny as Alpha Camaro. I don’t get why rear door able to catch so many buyers now, adding rear door doesn’t make so much sense unless you can really add more rear room size.

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roman_maverik@reddit

That's because half of this subreddit still doesn't understand the distinction between platform and chassis code.

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

There's not much sense in a 4 door when Caddy and Buick will be 4 door as well. I think the target in size should be liftback like a 2 door Civic - more usable rear than the Prelude is a must

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FSUfan35@reddit

It will be 2 door Camaro, a 2 door Cadi, and a 4 door Buick

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atomicskiracer@reddit

Time for a shooting brake

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Seeker80@reddit

That can get the 'Nomad' badge.

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Mimical@reddit

Man, We have gone so far from the great days its not even funny.

But yeah, Chevrolet Nomad, bring it back baby.

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caterham09@reddit

It's not going to be a hatchback. It's going to be a lift back if they go that route

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4r4r4real@reddit

Massively regret selling my SS 1LE as well man

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cedarvalleyct@reddit

We’ll see! So long as it has a stick mated to that V8 I’m interested. Too bad Dodge pooped the shower with that Charger; Edmunds just slayed the EV version over their year’s review.

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funked1@reddit

Me three

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cedarvalleyct@reddit

What a gem of a car! Chevy can build a performance car, can’t they?

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

GM is certainly on a roll recently, especially if this pans out.

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KMKtwo-four@reddit

If it won’t have Apple CarPlay….

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Equivalent-Battle973@reddit

Yeah thats one major reason why I would never get a newer camaro, but personally I really loved the design of the 2010 camaro, but I am biased.

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wh1pp3d@reddit

All new GM ICE vehcles have CarPlay

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5tudent_Loans@reddit

It won’t. Nothing from GM will unless it specifically becomes a reason sales fall through. Which dealers will actively avoid mentioning or even lie about if they notice the trend

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OldRed91@reddit

Especially since Ford seems to be fumbling every chance they can lately.

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peaked-at-7@reddit

I mean, no shit? If GM revives the Camaro again and doesn't offer a manual they're morons.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

Originally the rumors were it was going to be an Electric SUV.

So, the fact it will be a manual is very good news.

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wootiown@reddit

Good news, it's a manual electric suv.

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Outrageous_Sand_8226@reddit

So they took some lexus experiment?

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Luis0224@reddit

manual electric

Treadmill system that generates power by the passengers’ feet i.e. the flintstone

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peaked-at-7@reddit

I don't believe the EV SUV rumour at all. That rumour was basically at peak EV-all-the-things time and the Camaro had just recently ended/was ending production. I don't believe GM was ever seriously considering doing it.

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DingDingDao@reddit

More manuals available on the market is always a good thing.

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Anonymous8630@reddit

Automatic and CVT

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cedarvalleyct@reddit

Don’t you dare!

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tablepennywad@reddit

Hear me out. You are always in the power band….

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MumpsyDaisy@reddit

So good it was banned in F1 they say

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Moth92@reddit

It sounded like shit, like when you hit the speed limit of a car in a videogame.

Then again, F1 stopped caring about the sound when they got rid of the V10s.

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JangoDarkSaber@reddit

Foregoing progress for “sound”

Something F1 and Harley riders have in common

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Moth92@reddit

Not all progress is good. Progress for the sake of progress rarely tried out good. You can have technological progress with v10s.

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JangoDarkSaber@reddit

F1 pushing forward the developmental progress of CVTs would have been a great thing though.

This is a case of good progress be stifled for “the vibes”

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PEEWUN@reddit

I think you mean F1 fans, mate.

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cubs223425@reddit

Actually, CVT for the ICE one and a fake transmission to simulate shifts in the EV meant to compete with the Mach-e.

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Relevantspite@reddit

Nah it’s gonna be CVT and broken CVT

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No_Bed_7363@reddit

All of the naturals

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_Thorshammer_@reddit

It’s a Chevy, not a Nissan.

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Vizslaraptor@reddit

Nut tap

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franzn@reddit

Just cvt but there's a button to make it simulate gears so it "had options". Oh also it's now a generic cuv.

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Idk54323@reddit

Dam

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zeromadcowz@reddit

Flappy paddle CVT

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RazingsIsNotHomeNow@reddit

It will share a chassis with a new Buick sedan and ct5 replacement, so that will probably means a hybrid option. You might not be all that far off. I'd feel a lot more comfortable if the rumor explicitly stated manual transmission.

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Eggith@reddit

This is a war crime

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blainestang@reddit

Thanks. Now I don’t have to click the article.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

The enthusiasts dream!

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Tricky-Ad7897@reddit

8 speed at and 16 speed at

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cocoabeach@reddit

Not sure how I feel about a four door Camaro, but if it can pull it off as well as the Aston Martin Rapide four-door fastback, I might be onboard.

https://static0.topspeedimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/rapide_s.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=825&dpr=1.5

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Optical_reality@reddit

I just want my Camaro yellow.

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halotechnology@reddit

YES

I want to get yellow but only offered on earlier years

Got orange instead.

At least it's not black or white.

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Vhozite@reddit

By far the biggest thing I want from my next car is for it to be yellow. It’s shame it’s so hard to find

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

A new Transformers is reportedly in the works.

So a new Bumblebee isn't out of the question.

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Optical_reality@reddit

I like transformers

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Vhozite@reddit

Till all are one

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AndreLeGeant88@reddit

Direct correlation between Bumblebee and Camaro sales

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BlackDS@reddit

I just want them to offer windows this time

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Temporary_Shirt_6236@reddit

8 speed or 10 speed auto

I know weaselspeak when I see it.

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costafilh0@reddit

As long as there is a tremec and a v8 option, they can offer everything else they want as options.

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TheSixSpeed@reddit

So we’re getting a an affordable V8 powered sedan with a manual? A good one? I’m a fan.

I know that internally GM is still deciding whether to call this the Camaro or not, and I hope they decide to call this a Chevelle instead that way they can bring back an actual 2 door Camaro later.

That was their original plan with the 6th gen anyway: Have the Camaro be sold alongside a 4 door Impala with the same running gear, like Dodge did with the Challenger and Charger.

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caterham09@reddit

Affordable is relative. This will probably be 50kish for a modest spec when you consider the current market. I know this sub will likely balk at that

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anonymouswan1@reddit

This will be $50,000 base model that GM won't produce any of. They will produce more fully loaded $70,000 models that dealers will promptly mark up to $80,000+ for the first two years until inventory overflowing.

Then GM will say they are stopping the Camaro production again because the cars aren't selling.

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AndroidMyAndroid@reddit

Ehh, GM still has to keep the Corvette on its sacred pedestal. Ford has no such car it needs to protect.

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caterham09@reddit

I really doubt it. GT mustangs start in the mid to low 40s. It's probably going to have to be competitive or they wouldn't release it. My guess is a pretty well specced option is going to cap out around 60k similar to the mustang currently

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

We will see, could go either way.

Right now, Mustang GT's are seeing some pretty hefty discounts from Dealers($5k-$8k off).

Especially with the new Charger, and the Mustang GT competing, it should help bring the prices down on all of them.

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narwhal_breeder@reddit

8 speed auto or 7 speed DCT.

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MaybeNext-Monday@reddit

DCT would go nuts tbh

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caterham09@reddit

Except for the fact that the one dct gm makes right now is suspect in reliability and is a 20k replacement. I'd rather have a traditional auto if that was the only choice

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RichardNixon345@reddit

I'd say they could use the DCT out of the GT500/Dark Horse SC but given that it hasn't been offered in a car under 95k that's probably unlikely.

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56killa@reddit

Why would GM use a Ford part?

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AndroidMyAndroid@reddit

Like the 10 speed automatic that Ford Mustangs and the last Camaro shared?

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RichardNixon345@reddit

Because it’s a Tremec part, not a Ford part.

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56killa@reddit

I actually did not know that, thanks for sharing that

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funked1@reddit

Don’t care about the manual. But 4 doors is a dealbreaker.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

I would honestly be happy with a V8 Manual sedan that is not $100k...

The literal only option right now is the $100k starting CT5V Blackwing.

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cthompson07@reddit

I wish my 5V just had a NA V8.

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narwhal_breeder@reddit

Still absolutely wild toe Cadillac doubled down on the TT 3.5 V6 when they had a 6.2 in the stable.

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caterham09@reddit

Cadillac executives thought the lt1 was too brash for the Cadillac brand and wanted a more "refined" engine for the 4vbw. Then they turned around and put the lt4 in the 5vbw for whatever reason

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The_Bucket_Of_Truth@reddit

The 4BW motor is childish and stupid sounding when you have the exhausts in the more aggressive settings. It drones too. A V8 sounds way better. Anyway I could theoretically be into a new Cadillac or Chevy sedan with this new 6.7 liter V8 they put in the Corvette Grand Sport.

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narwhal_breeder@reddit

Nothing says refinement like ditching perfect primary balance V8 for a V6.

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funked1@reddit

That's crazy. You could easily calm down the exhaust on the LT1 and it would be fine. If they offered the LT1 in the 4V or the 5V we would probably have bought one.

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cthompson07@reddit

The 5V just has a 3.0 TT. Over 100 less hp than the 4 BW. With all the little cost cutting measures in the 4 vs the 5 (no electronic door poppers, non auto windows on all 4 windows, etc), I’m surprised the 5v wasn’t more similar in power to the 4BW.

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funked1@reddit

Yeah I get it, we would buy a 4V or 5V if it had an LT1 in it. But Camaros are two door cars period.

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norfatlantasanta@reddit

Just be happy we’re getting a sedan at all.

If I were GM I wouldn’t call this a Camaro. Like it or not the Camaro name implies an undeniable track weapon that is excruciatingly hard to see out of and live with on a daily basis.

Call it the Monte Carlo

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caterham09@reddit

Supposedly gm doesn't want to call it a camaro if it has 4 doors. They are apparently still debating if they want to do a coupe version and call it a camaro, or do the sedan and call it something else.

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nonaveris@reddit

Impala.

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funked1@reddit

Chevelle

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MachWun@reddit

Just remember guys, the Chevy Blazer was supposed to be part of the Camaro brand!

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WhippersnapperUT99@reddit

I hope the next Camaro is more rounded and less blocky-looking than the last one and that they offer a coupe convertible.

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V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit

It will still use Tremec, won’t it ? If Camaro would receive MT, I don’t see any chance to see Corvette getting back MT option. GM never want to see Corvette and Camaro too close each other, both car should’ve its clear difference and own positions.

Maybe, we wouldn’t see that Tremec new MT in future Corvette model, but we’re very likely to see it in Camaro.

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enfuego138@reddit

Wait, four door Camaro? So, a Chevy SS with a Camaro badge for marketing purposes. Will probably be 4,500 pounds.

No thanks.

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hundredjono@reddit

You don't know anything about the Alpha platform

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wasapasserby@reddit

The Zeta platform Chevy SS was just under 4000 lbs, and Zeta was an over-engineered steel porker.

A 4 door Camaro on Alpha 2 should be under 3800 lbs.

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Seeker80@reddit

The Zeta platform Chevy SS was just under 4000 lbs, and Zeta was an over-engineered steel porker.

It was still good, though. Feels like they could bring back a Monte Carlo as a nice GT on the platform. Sort of a peace offering to the people who miss their FR Corvettes.

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enfuego138@reddit

The Alpha 2 V8 cars are far heavier than the last gen SS.

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

I don't think 4500 lbs would be super realistic.

The current CT5V Blackwing, which is much bigger is only 4100 lbs with tons of luxury features(massage seats).

A 4 door Camaro would probably be similar in size and weight to the CT4V Blackwing(3800-3900 lbs), which is pretty close to the last gen ZL1.

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enfuego138@reddit

The CTS5V Blackwing is 6 inches longer than the sixth gen Camaro and has a massive 116 inch wheelbase. Even if they manage to find the 250-350 pounds of weight savings for the new Camaro SS you claim (I’m skeptical), the 1SS manual was under 3,700 pounds and had a 110 inch wheelbase. This thing will feel as nimble as a barge compared to the last one.

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caterham09@reddit

The Ct4-v blackwing is also on the same platform and has a wheelbase of 109 inches. And it (again with all the luxury features and 4 doors) weighs 3850lbs.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions that it's going to be some heavy beast. We just don't know much yet

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enfuego138@reddit

The CT4 isn’t a V8. I’m going by what they’ve got and the fact that they’re doing a four door because they don’t want to spend money on development (clearly). The CT5 is the most likely comparison.

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caterham09@reddit

I'm going by what they got

Except you said the car would weigh 400lbs heavier than the heaviest, supercharged v8 luxury barge car that they offer right now. You're making assumptions about a car that we know very little about

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LongjumpingLock5875@reddit (OP)

Unfortunately, we likely won't see anything until late this year at the earliest.

Reportedly starting production fall of next year as a 2028 model.

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RadioFist@reddit

e-power glide

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olov244@reddit

I hope it's good, but it's not a camaro to me

the fbody died in 02

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neueziel1@reddit

Oh yeah lol

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Heisenburg7@reddit

We're so back.