Move the entire human race to the moon, allow greenhouse gas levels in Earth's atmosphere to return to pre-industrial levels, then move everyone back.

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fore___@reddit

How long would that actually take

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beastpilot@reddit

Total surface area of the moon is less than Asia, so time to get cozy.

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Tyrrany_of_pants@reddit

Well it's not like you'll want to go outside

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ground__contro1@reddit

Sounds like a great way to leave the poors behind

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jarious@reddit

Let's just let the billionaires leave the planet ,I'm sure everything will get better down here eventually

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Either_Lawfulness466@reddit

Someone needs to grow the food, bottle the oxygen, make the parts, make the fuel….

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ground__contro1@reddit

They can do most of that here on earth before they get left behind Sure we’ll bring a small servant class but it won’t be everybody

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SwoodyBooty@reddit

The moon base fuels the space station. We just add the multiple tiers of poverty back.

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xrelaht@reddit

That’s only 560 people per square mile, a little more than Delaware.

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baby_got_yak@reddit

That only sweetens the deal for me

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Strict_Jacket3648@reddit

Cheaper just to stop pouring poison into the air now.

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That works because we all die. Humans can't live in low gravity long-term and the CO2 will take hundreds or thousands of years to naturally go back to pre-industrial levels or whatever PPM you're shooting for.. Plus, there's absolutely no way to move all the humans to the moon even if you had room on the moon you have no mechanism that can move that much mass to the moon. Like the amount of pollution, you need to create to take all the humans to the moon would virtually destroy the atmosphere Earth in the process. If you're gonna come up with completely fantastical solutions, why not just put like all 8 billion humans in some kind of stasis hero on earth, why transport them to the death trap that is the moon?

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Please do not apply logic and reason to ideas posted on this sub.

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

I know this is r/CrazyIdeas but the climate apocalypse pseudoscience is so out of control. I really wonder how much destruction from the last 20 years could have been avoided if such a large chunk of the population wasn’t bullied into believing they’re a cancer killing the Earth.

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Augustus420@reddit

The irony of this comment is most of the mainstream science media reporting are the mild and best case scenario estimates for what consequences we could be facing. Edit, goddamn garbage auto moderator

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

I don’t even know what to do about this level of cognitive dissonance. The sheer number of apocalyptic predictions that never came true just goes on and on. This is why I have no pity when you guys lose your mind and start dishing out ultimatums on everything. You did this to yourselves.

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Augustus420@reddit

You folks only make that argument by including shit that has nothing to do with climate change and sensationalized news reporting about climate change. Climate change is a fact buddy. Stop being so stubborn about a scientific reality.

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

What years WAS it acceptable to openly debate impending man made apocalyptic climate change? At what point did the scientific method stop being sufficient before we had to go to Science 2.0™️?

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Augustus420@reddit

Moving onto another nonsense point after your first one did not work? The science is clear enough to the experts and has been for decades. (Following previous decades of research)

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

There was zero substance to respond to, you just declared your position was “a fact”. Case in point, you just declare it’s been settled “for decades” after “decades” of research. You’ve clearly never thought through this or considered what would falsify your position. You just have a bunch of appeals to authority. This is where it always leads with midwits.

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My dude, you're the one making weak points that I'm responding to in kind. First you tried to claim there's a bunch of failed predictions by scientists, which there aren't. Then when I rightfully dismissed that instead of trying to bring up specific instances, you switched gears to trying to claim there hasn't been any actual scientific research done. Another nonsense claim backed up by nothing which I understandably dismissed out of hand. You're the one in the conspiracy theorist anti-science position. You have a position that flies in the face of the scientific consensus. If you feel so damn strongly about it you're the one that needs to justify your position. No different than if I was arguing against a creationist or a flat earther. Am I supposed to atart releasing word vomit about scientific concepts you probably don't actually care about?

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“Word vomit” is the only relevant phrase in your entire response. (UN Environment Program) in 1989 warning of coastal flooding, crop failures, “eco-refugees,” and p0l1t1cal chaos by \~2000 unless action was taken within 10 years. James Hansen (NASA) forecasts included more regional droughts and many more extremely hot days in places like Washington, D.C. Maldives and other nations were predicted to be obliterated or underwater by 2000–2019. Claims by Al Gore of ice-free Arctic by 2013-2018 The Guardian in 2004 claiming Britain would have a Siberian climate by 2020. Like I said, the list goes on and on. We’re only limited by the amount of time I want to waste debating a midwit. I never claimed “no research has been done”. I’ll take the fact that you can’t articulate my position honestly as you taking the L quietly.

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Disastrous_Ad1260@reddit

Not the earth, the rock will go on. Just the happy little equilibrium that finally lasted long enough to build a civilization. earth will eventually find a new equilibrium after a few thousand years of bat shit weather swings.

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

What year was the first convincing computer model of the entire planet completed? You know, the one that they ran and calculated the time and manner of the apocalypse. Also, how many years after being proposed was it until the science was settled?

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SeanFromQueens@reddit

The moon circumference is about the size of Australia, so building habitat enough for all of the +8 billion humans would require about as much manufactured materials as there is land mass of the continent of Australia, probably more.

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Excellent-Practice@reddit

The moon's diameter is roughly as wide as Australia. The surface area of the moon is about five times that of Australia

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SeanFromQueens@reddit

So it's far more building material than all of Australia, right.

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SamHandwich0@reddit

How pre-industrial? Like 1900 or precambrian?

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

Pre industrial revolution. 17th century.

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derbrauer@reddit

1900 is pre-industrial? You're missing the mark by about 150 years!

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BaitmasterG@reddit

Are you sure? We studied industrial revolution at school, and I distinctly remember something big we studied started in 1914. Trust me, I paid attention

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derbrauer@reddit

I know (sure hope) you're making a joke, but in case you're not...it's been 35 years since I studied it, but I distinctly remember 1750 being mentioned. Let's see what Encyclopedia Galactica says: >Beginning in [Great Britain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Britain) around 1760, the Industrial Revolution had spread to [continental Europe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe) and the [United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) by about 1840 So I was off by 10 years. 1914 is the commencement of the first "industrialized war".

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sick486@reddit

did you? second industrial revolution *ended* in 1914. something else might have started that year though

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Fuhugwugads@reddit

Are we going to pretend that moving the whole planet to the moon won't create an astronomical amount of greenhouse gases?

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

We're going to build a ladder. No fuel required.

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H4llifax@reddit

This takes like 800 years

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Radiant_Fondant_4097@reddit

The Earth Federation already tried this, don’t go down so well…

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gc3@reddit

Also how do we make sure everyone is alive and well fed?

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Blocked-Author@reddit

Likely the would actually just kill a lot of people off and then say that everyone is alive and fed.

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atom644@reddit

This would solve the overpopulation problem

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Mundane-Caregiver169@reddit

Are we forgetting the disco balling-strobe lighting-sub woofing-candy flipping-gravity defying-moon party that we’ll be having to pass the time???????

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DirtyWormGerms@reddit

What year was the first convincing computer model of the entire planet completed? You know, the one that they ran and calculated the time and manner of the apocalypse. Also, how many years after being proposed was it until the science was settled?

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BranchLatter4294@reddit

How would you provide energy for the people on the Moon?

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Atalkingpizzabox@reddit

That's the secret you don't so everyone dies

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