It looks like China gets it.
Posted by FlapXenoJackson@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 121 comments
Posted by FlapXenoJackson@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 121 comments
Lopsided-Bath-8404@reddit
Huge lie lol 😆
salmanahmad_10@reddit
Also love it how china is in ai race but not like how west is doing it. They are working more on open source ai models afaik
Ok-Serve415@reddit
See, China is 2 steps ahead
2dollahollaballa@reddit
Considering how many vids of Chinese people dying in industrial accidents, Id rather AI took a few jobs.
korok7mgte@reddit
Yeah, this is what I keep trying to articulate to people.
AI robots are going to replace the hazardous jobs and the simple jobs first.
Nobody really wants to break their back moving boxes. The same way people don't really want to get lava samples from a volcano.
But after the truckers are automated. They will use the data to make it illegal to drive your car without an AI bot in total control, all in the name of "safety".
Literally scifi has been calling this out nearly as long as the automobile has been around.
heebro@reddit
AI bots will never be able to control a heavy vehicle safely.
korok7mgte@reddit
Neither will people...
Tractorista@reddit
what about the people who retire with millions of safe miles under their belts
korok7mgte@reddit
All AI has to do is be slightly better than people on average at driving. They will market it as less deaths on the road. They're already informing everything with cameras. Nobody asked for this. AI doesn't get tired, and it doesn't have to be perfect to replace human drivers.
Down vote me all you want. I'm not stating something I believe in. I'm stating a pattern that makes sense, that I've observed. I don't like it either.
heebro@reddit
Wrong. Operating a heavy vehicle safely means more than just driving the vehicle.
Who is 'they'? There are 750,000 trucking companies in the US. Many of these companies have mega fleets of tens of thousands of trucks. These companies, collectively worth trillions, are not going to change the way they are doing things. They are simply not interested. They know what they are doing, they do it well enough, and they are not dumb enough to think that putting a clanker in control of a 40-ton death machine is a good idea.
The 400 driverless truck experiment going on in Texas will most likely run its course and cease operations in the near future. After that, nobody in the trucking industry will adopt self-driving vehicles.
korok7mgte@reddit
Ah yes, you're absolutely right. They're just wasting money and I'm absolutely wrong. There was no merit to anything I said. Thank you for gracing us with your superior opinion.
You know what's fun about reddit? We can come back in 5 years and actually see who was right. Honestly, for your sake. I hope you're right. I'm not looking forward to it at all.
But we already have self driving Tesla's. You're the one who stated "Nobody in the trucking industry will adopt self-driving vehicles.
Let's just see how that plays out.
heebro@reddit
Who is wasting money? Nobody in the trucking industry is invested in self-driving trucks. None of the 750,000 trucking firms that I mentioned have any desire whatsoever to change what they are doing. Because it is a stupid idea, and they know it.
There's barely a handful of companies testing driverless trucks in Texas. Those people are wasting money, sure, but in the trucking industry it amounts to a rounding error. When the capital dries up those companies will close up shop and that will be all she wrote for autonomous trucking.
The Silesian weavers win this time around, because the tech will never be good enough to trust it with a 40-ton death missile. Not to mention all the other things involved in trucking that have nothing at all to do with driving.
And we don't have self-driving Teslas. Musk has been promising FSD for what, over 10 years now? FSD has been 1 year away from reality for 10 years. Probably always will be a pipe dream since Musk refuses to adopt lidar.
AggravatingGrade755@reddit
Doubt that. I'd imagine a lot of larger trucking companies would be interested in using autonomous vehicles for certain routes.
heebro@reddit
well, it is true that people do stupid shit all the time
AggravatingGrade755@reddit
I'm guessing you're a trucker?
AveragePoster17@reddit
You're joking, right? The ai is literally taking the creative and non-dangerous jobs first, right now. It's actively happening. Have you heard of vibe-coding? How people are using ai to make art and track charts, when it constantly halucinates random nonsensical garbage? Physical robots are expensive to make and maintain. Underpaying people is cheap. They're not making anything safer for anyone for a very very long time.
cheesy_chuck@reddit
a lot has changed in china since the liveleak days
Summersong2262@reddit
They're still a Capitalist nation driven by exports and internal secrecy. People are still dying in the factories. They're just better at concealing it, and their international partners like the West still don't care.
Poopocalyptict@reddit
I’d rather they value life a little more. I feel like AI would allow them to continue with their unsafe practices w/o the threat of litigation. But if that’s how they reach the realization that people aren’t disposable, I’m all for it.
Microshlongg@reddit
With how society is trending I’m sure there will be ai life activist who want ai not to be abused and used as much
qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit
Crazy people are simping over the country with concentration camps participating in ethnic cleansing while running sweatshops 7 days a week that are so brutal they require suicide nets.
Not really a country I care to get my labor law ideas from, but you do you.
Tsars_Ball_Scrubber@reddit
Like America's ICE facilities?
Or the ag centres where they take away people's passports and force them to work stupid hours
Also to add-on to the sweatshop point more, china by and large doesn't have that nearly as often anymore. They still have long hours compared to the west, but nowhere near sweatshop
DreamsServedSoft@reddit
bro you can find so many better allies than China in this world
qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit
Tankies are a special breed of delusional
Tsars_Ball_Scrubber@reddit
I'm a tankie now?
My god man, it makes sense why America is in the situation it's In now. It really does
Montreal4life@reddit
Ouighur genocide is fake news. Pure projection from the collective west
Crazyscorpion77@reddit
But city shiney at night with beautiful colors
(Sarcasm)
coldafsteel@reddit
If you want to live under centralized economic rules you should move to a communist country.
heebro@reddit
of all the ills of capitalism, perhaps the most tragic is the way in which it convinces some proles to suck its cock
amp804@reddit
You know extremes go the other way too, right?
coldafsteel@reddit
Agree. I’m simply saying if OP wants to use China as the bases for their argument they should know what it is they are actually asking for and where to get it.
Dude wants to be free, but wants to live under an economic system without freedoms.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
You are already living in a centralized economic rules with surveillance and your info in in a database owned by corporation. The taxman actually knows how much you make and how much in your bank account . You drive a truck your info is already stored but you don't have access to it. So what are you saying again?
coldafsteel@reddit
I am not surprised you know nothing about national economic policy. You should absolutely complain about your situation if you don’t like it, whatever it may be. But, I wouldn’t go around claiming to understand things you very clearly don’t. Like tuning your 30 at the island, it ain’t a good look.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
Yeah moron. Try it and don't pay proper tax and you will soon not gonna be able to drive a truck or get employed . You are monitored in everything you do. So say again ?
coldafsteel@reddit
I am very familiar with NSD-42.
But hey I get it, someone has to be the old man yelling at the clouds 🤡
LuckyLystrosaurus@reddit
Can't the centralized economic rules I currently live under just be made into communism?
TheFringedLunatic@reddit
So you’re cool with chameleon carriers and foreign labor? Good to know, comrade!
Radiant_Swan187@reddit
So you want the government to be able to come in an executive your newborn daughter? Good to know scum!
WulfgarofIcewindDale@reddit
Do you read your comments before you post them?
TheFringedLunatic@reddit
What does that have to do with economic planning? You know, the thing you were originally bitching about? Or are you conceding on that point and changing your argument to authoritarian tactics as a whole now?
Inquiring minds want to know!
WulfgarofIcewindDale@reddit
What about a de-centralized planned economy?
Quizzii@reddit
Lol
Human_Lecture_348@reddit
Pretty sure the article or full idea was that they can't replace you if all they want to do is cut costs (paying you). If the goal is to make things safer, more efficient, etc. then they still can. Which means people are still gonna get replaced by bots
neoben00@reddit
Social responsibility has big consequences in china dont poke the poo bear. They execute people for skirting laws there
Summersong2262@reddit
It means scrutiny and people not getting fired from the accounting office. That's a win.
Unused_Content19@reddit
Well, kill me for asking, but isn’t that better?
If they want to make it so that a job is more safer, isn’t that kinda a good thing.
And they can’t replace you to cut costs so…
LuckyLystrosaurus@reddit
NO CHINA BAD ALL THE TIME NEVER CHINA GOOD ALWAYS BAD
Tractorista@reddit
China is bad, USA bad, Europe bad (governments that is)
Tractorista@reddit
make it safer by slowing things down, not by increasing robotics / automation / AI (which is the goal of technocrats across the globe)
The 1% in every country are working together behind the scenes to make the power disparity gap uncrossable
Human_Lecture_348@reddit
They'll just say its for other reasons, even if the truth is to just cut costs, and make up a different reason. "Less insubordination." Boom, robot replacement.
CUBuffs1992@reddit
Yeah the US won’t do shit.
MartinSilvestri@reddit
lmao yeah they dont have problems like that in china, glorious paradise that it is. trying to control people's every economic and social decision by law works so well for them
SteppenAxolotl@reddit
That law doesn't stop a new competitor startup to employ AI/robots and under cut the existing business with expensive human workers.
Such laws cant stop the tide.
WorknForTheWeekend@reddit
and yet people will focus their energy on copium because somebody said the Ch-word. so easily manipulated to work against their own interests
beavismorpheus@reddit
It's the rise of America's Broligarchy.
angrydeuce@reddit
In one hand, you have peoples livelihoods.
In the other, 30 pieces of silver for your campaign war chest.
I do think my head would explode if any sitting representative picked the peoples livelihoods over their bribe money. Our entire government has suffered regulatory capture, and frankly, I dont see that changing without a lot of suffering being borne by the people already struggling to survive.
History is replete with examples of why the current paradigm is unsustainable. What's so frustrating is that we just refuse to learn from the past, and continue making the same fuckin mistakes over and over.
Mr_Michael_B99@reddit
I’m very curious. All the China experts in this thread are obviously not posting from inside China, as Reddit is banned there. How are the experts so qualified to be experts?
This is an honest question! I have so many questions about Chinese society, and how everything really works there. I have visited, and on the surface, everything seems like any other western society. I was surprised at the amount of prostitution in Beijing.
If anyone actually lives in China, I would love to have some extended private conversations. If you recently left China, why did you leave if it’s so great? Are there opportunities for a normal person to move up in society? Is the “social scoring” a real thing that is monitored like was portrayed in western media a few years ago.
I realize China is a huge country with every area being different from the others! I would honestly like to learn. Is it possible for Westerners to immigrate there and successfully fit into society well? Is Chinese society very social, or is it more like the U.S. where everyone works and goes home with minimal IRL interaction? Are you free to practice any religion you want openly? How does China feel about LGBTQIA+. I’m honestly curious about all of those things. Also. Is the President really in danger of being replaced by hardliners?
ToastyBob27@reddit
Cause I believe the CCCP 😂
Hot_Brief_330@reddit
You can’t stop progress. A lot of people want the world to slow down to give them a better shot at life. It won’t happen. Not in a capitalist society
TheRtHonLaqueesha@reddit
Looks like another stupid policy decision on their part like the one child policy lol.
aFalseSlimShady@reddit
"why not give them spoons?"
GoMake_me_a_sandwich@reddit
YES! Let's make the same laws as China!!
GoMake_me_a_sandwich@reddit
Before the idiots respond like this is real let me just declare this is sarcasm.
LuckyLystrosaurus@reddit
Make it not sarcasm comrade
GoMake_me_a_sandwich@reddit
Hell yeah brother! Turn in all your guns. Get rid of free speech. Get rid of jury trials. Institution a social credit system. Block the Internet. No YouTube or Google and... NO REDDIT!!!
Tsars_Ball_Scrubber@reddit
You are aware we literally have our own social credit system in the form of the literal credit system. Right?
LuckyLystrosaurus@reddit
Damn
I'm going to start checking real estate trends in China
KoneCat@reddit
Every time I see something about China and its working conditions, I remember the story about how they installed nets in their factories as people were offing themselves, so this would prevent it. Not sure the validity of that story, but man, that is horrifying.
globalistnepobaby@reddit
Seeing as the Chinese government seems to be be full sadists, i'm not sure that their reasoning for doing this is what people may think. The US government seems to be more of a covert illusion of choice type.
the_immovable@reddit
Move to China then, tankie
lorenzodimedici@reddit
It’s probably cheaper to employ people in China to be honest
Wadester58@reddit
Slave labor forever
deadpat03@reddit
They limited their population from gaining artificial intelligence to maintain control over their population. It was not about jobs, or humans it was to maintain power over people and prevent them from weaponizing against the communist party.
You people are freaking idiots.
AutumnBrooks2021@reddit
That’s because China can’t enslave computers like they can humans.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
Yeah western brainwashed sheep. China is 10 times more modern and have better life for its citizens than US.
AutumnBrooks2021@reddit
China steals technology from US companies, companies throughout the world and other countries. They also commit some of the worst human rights abuses throughout the world. They’re a communist country that kills their own people. If that’s what you think is a better life then you’re a fool.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
why did you remove your post Moron? Here is China and Asia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkop0LoNbM
AutumnBrooks2021@reddit
15-18 million people worldwide were killed by Covid 19 because of China and their lies and cover up.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
Yeah brainwashed sheep. It's a bio weapon that was released by Fauci. Keep believing your brainwashing
AutumnBrooks2021@reddit
Didn’t remove any post dumb ass.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
US and israel has committed genocide and starved and improverished nations. Brainwashed sheep.
AutumnBrooks2021@reddit
China killed millions of people throughout the world with Covid 19. They created it, they lied about it and covered it up. Millions of innocent people died because of China. Keep riding that China dong, you shill.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
Except those tech are invented by Chinese born scientists and engineers with PhD's . What you are saying is 2 decades ago. Now China has 2 times more patents than US. Even Tesla is selling a chinese car with chinese made parts invented by China.
ArtReasonable2437@reddit
God bless China ☭🇨🇳
Hubble_Eye642@reddit
Except that China leads the world by far in the number of machines that have replaced workers….this is dumb propaganda.
FlapXenoJackson@reddit (OP)
For those that last be doubting whether or not this is true. From Google….
May 2026, Chinese courts have ruled that it is illegal for companies to fire employees solely to replace them with artificial intelligence (Al) to reduce costs. A landmark ruling determined that Al integration cannot serve as a justification for unlawful termination, placing the responsibility on companies to protect workers' livelihoods.
heebro@reddit
cryptocurrency is also strictly forbidden in the people's commonwealth.
East_Indication_7816@reddit
Wrong. It's not in Hongkong plus they just use VPN. It's not illegal per se. Just that all the chinese crypto exchanges are not inside mainland china. Even online betting is legal but in countries like Macau , Philippines, catering to Chinese customers.
So your statement is wrong and you are fed with western propaganda where it is illegal to participate in polymarket prediction markets, and open non-US crypto account.
So what is the difference? US is more communist than CHina.
heebro@reddit
That's all you need to know about this reply
Diamondangel82@reddit
I hate AI just as much as the next person.
But this has to be grandstanding or China will never truly catch the US economically and will start to wildly fall behind.
Its the same reason why Europe with all its vacation days and parental leave will also never catch the US
The U.S, good bad or indifferent, is wired for efficiency of scale, and has been since the 1860s
Because the U.S grinds its workforce into the dust, it is more productive, and A.I. is simply the next evolution of that.
Yes, A.i and robots will put a ton of people out of work. But the U.S will adjust in the same way the nation adapted to the manufacturing line, or the printing press, or steam engine, or the auto assembler, or online shopping etc, etc, all of which say 10s of thousands of jobs cut with their introduction into the production chain.
speedbumpdoom@reddit
The rest of the world is already passing America, we just skew the numbers and use bullshit information to cope ourselves into believing that America is the greatest country in the world. Most of the stuff that the gdp consists of is truly a negative. Medical care caused by shitty food and stagnant lifestyles shopping online are a sign that we're not doing great.
After ww2 America kicked back and checked out of the global progressive advancement. We decided to focus on building monster trucks and race cars while Europe and Asia rebuilt with a greater focus on efficiency and longevity. We figured that we could just keep selling grain and meat to everyone and we'd always have a market no matter how shitty we treat others. Meanwhile, other countries actually looked into advancing technologies, health care, building materials, metals, safety, worker rights, and all kinds of other factors. We pay other countries to create and build equipment and electronics... because we can't. You know the old phrase, "use it or lose it?" We lost it. We reduced the funding for education to such a degree that most Americans don't even realize how fucked we are. We're the bully that barely graduated high school and just stayed in the same town partying while the rest of the graduates went to college.
Diamondangel82@reddit
Yeah, Europe is really focused on efficency, Kinda like how Germany closed all its nuclear power plants...
Sometimes, people post things on this site that are truly exceptional...
speedbumpdoom@reddit
The world is switching to electric vehicles and solar panels. We're trying to justify oil and coal. The future is all around us and we're closing our eyes.
NS-13@reddit
Lol. The only reason euro countries are behind us in terms of things like production of goods is because they are smaller nations physically speaking.
As a union of states, they've got us beat in just about everything other than like corn and soybean production. Woohoo 🥳
SexyWampa@reddit
Do you not understand how economies work? It requires money to circulate through the system, there won't be any money circulating because AI in the US will eliminate millions of jobs. CEOs are already bragging about how many jobs it will eliminate.
WulfgarofIcewindDale@reddit
LOL!!! Yeah, the US will adjust… with massive homeless encampments the likes of which have never been seen before.
Reasonable_Mood1288@reddit
The U.S is a joke. A cruel joke.
stripperjnasty@reddit
Is this real? Cuz if it is, im moving to china
East_Indication_7816@reddit
THis is a fake news. China already has humanoid workers in factories and now most trucks are now driverless but the driver is just sitting in the cabin
PsychologicalRace739@reddit
China literally has concentration camps and forced abortion
Royal-Application708@reddit
Absolutely crazy that China is doing stuff right and the United States isn’t
Frogspoison@reddit
Fucking CHINA is starting to have better workers protections then AI.
AND they execute their rich over there.
At this rate, China will become more progressive then the US!
awr90@reddit
How’s this going to bail China out of its 10 year population collapse?
b512780w@reddit
When was that prediction made ? And who made it?
Robert_Fowley@reddit
Xi just made an 180 if true, he caved due to the pressure the people made.
spambait-aspaaaragus@reddit
Downvote for stupid fluff screenshot
GiantEnemaCrab@reddit
As a general rule if a website requires you to click through a slideshow to read an article just exit, the website is tabloid trash.
Also lol, lmao if you think the same country that will work people in sweatshops 7 days per week wouldn't replace them with machines at the first opportunity.
SamuraiJono@reddit
Except they actually did, tabloid article notwithstanding. Helps to fact check yourself, you know.
modularpeak2552@reddit
That’s not what happened, they just can’t state that’s the reason you were fired.
Testyobject@reddit
Makes sense. it dosent solve the problem but makes it look like they are solving the problem = money
tajake@reddit
Thats literally every "China does this awesome new thing." Article.
When you can control your media, its shocking how awesome your government appears.
A US politician could pull 15 kids from a burning school bus on video and the other side's media would still do a hit piece on it.
If only there was a middle ground between rich people controlling the media and the state controlling the media.
Lightyear18@reddit
So you didn’t read the article but still commented lol
WulfgarofIcewindDale@reddit
Absolutely right, the US sure likes to work their impoverished citizens to death, until they can replace them with ai, that is. The US courts should make it illegal to fire workers and replace them with ai to cut costs, like China just did.
lasair7@reddit
Ride that dick any harder and it gonna break
WulfgarofIcewindDale@reddit
Weird sub to be talking about riding dick, is that a trucker thing? You truckers in America will have more time for chugging dick when AI legally takes your jobs I guess 🤷♂️😂
Fucknjagoff@reddit
China understands that political upheaval comes from out of work (historically men) people.
thxby@reddit
Does it say anything about new jobs though? Or current jobs that can't be filled by workers?
3amGreenCoffee@reddit
I'm surprised to hear that China is handicapping its own economy and artificially reducing productivity. One would think they would want their people to prosper.
Shut_It_Donny@reddit
I wonder if any countries made it illegal to replace workers with machines during the industrial revolution?
theHagueface@reddit
Just get it over with and rule us already
xm1l1tiax@reddit
But but…Trump says they’re evil and communists