Bruh
Posted by Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 217 comments
Do reporting bots even do anything?
Posted by Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 217 comments
Do reporting bots even do anything?
Bromlife@reddit
This is not just AI generated responses, it is peak AI responding in action.
echomanagement@reddit
I want to read the inevitable arxiv paper on why all frontier models sound almost exactly the same, beyond the obvious "they were all trained on ChatGPT." Why did the original sound basically the same, too?
Monkey_1505@reddit
Other than they all distill each other, Wikipedia and public domain books.
echomanagement@reddit
Are em dashes and It's not x, it's y prevalent in those sources? I don't notice the "LLM Style" anywhere else.
Nextil@reddit
Em dashes are extremely common in books and articles, which likely form the majority of the training data of most models since they're generally high quality (compared to social media).
"It's not x, it's y" doesn't show up much on places like Wikipedia or social media, but contrastive rhetorical devices like that have been been staples of public speech and marketing copy, basically ever since the Ancient Greek Sophists, whose whole schtick was to master a set of rhetorical techniques that could be reliably leveraged to convince people of their argument, regardless of which side it was arguing for or whether they had any real knowledge of the subject, and "antithesis", utilizing contrast, was one of the main things they emphasised.
The RLHF/DPO stage of training basically does exactly what they practiced. It teaches the model the most "effective" (preferred) way to talk, regardless of it's content or truth value. I imagine it's more likely to be that process that leads these models to use the same set of speech patterns so much, not the base dataset.
I imagine the fact that these RLHF datasets are often annotated by low-cost (likely ESL) workers in the Global South has an impact on what is "preferred". Cheaper rhetoric that sounds cliché to native speakers is probably more impressive to those less familiar with it.
echomanagement@reddit
Em dashes being "Extremely common" seems unlklely to me given they do not exist on a standard keyboard, but I would be happy to entertain data on that because I know they got into the training data somehow.
Nextil@reddit
I learnt Alt+0151 when I was like 12 years old, precisely because I read a lot of books at that age and so I looked up what it is and how to type it. You don't need "data". Just pick up a single book and read a single random page and the chances are that there will be multiple em dashes.
Regardless, any decent word processing or typesetting software converts things like " - ", "--" or "---" into em or en dashes, and anyone that writes professionally knows this.
echomanagement@reddit
Like I said, I'd be happy to entertain data on em dash usage. I've heard others make the claim they use that shortcut, and I believe you. Your particular experience is a single data point and is unfortunately not that useful. My particular experience is the opposite. There may be cultural forces at play.
There's a reason we pick up on em dash usage as an LLM habit. There's some evidence that em dashes were *super* prevalent in Victorian literature compared to modern.
UniversalSpermDonor@reddit
I opened 30 random nonfiction books on my shelves to a random two-page spread that didn't have much whitespace and counted the number of em dashes. In total, there were 89, so around 1.45 per page on a 60-page sample. I didn't keep track of the number of spreads that didn't have em dashes, but I think it was between 4 and 8. (I'm not about to go back and do it again so that I can get a standard deviation.)
It's a small sample, but still, it's the best I'm willing to come up with. So yeah, /u/Nextil is right, it's very common, and "statistically" (if you're generous enough to call my sample statistical) you'll probably see a em dash on a random page of a book.
If you're wondering about the actual composition of the sample: all of the books were modern (90%+ were published after 2000, 50%+ since 2010). The oldest one was Godel, Escher, Bach (1979). They were all nonfiction, mainly science/math-related (not textbooks), some history/philosophy ones too.
echomanagement@reddit
Interesting - I'm at an airport, and as I thumb through my kindle books, I see my science and history section (I also have GEB) rife with ems. My fiction section much, much less so. I wonder if OpenAI had far more access to these types of books than fiction.
UniversalSpermDonor@reddit
No problem!
Yeah, it seems to be known that OpenAI's older versions of ChatGPT were trained on Library Genesis, which has tons of nonfiction (I think something like ~7M books in total, of which ~1M are in English - IIRC around 70% of my physical nonfiction books are in LibGen), including tons of science and humanities. But its fiction selection isn't quite as robust. And, since they've been focusing on business/technical tasks and not creative writing, it seems to be a safe guess that they've intentionally trained it on much more nonfiction than fiction.
They claim that newer versions of ChatGPT aren't trained on LibGen, but I really doubt that. It's a source of many terabytes of high-quality, easy-to-manipulate information (it's super easy to extract text from EPUB and MOBI files, although PDFs are annoying) - it'd be most logical to just train on it, hope they get away with it, and eat the cost of a lawsuit if they lose.
And even if OpenAI is telling the truth and GPT isn't trained on LibGen directly anymore, they're definitely partly training it based on conversations with older models that were trained on LibGen.
Monkey_1505@reddit
The dashes are present and common on wikipedia. Present, but slightly less common in older fiction books. It's a somewhat formal way of writing I suppose.
droptableadventures@reddit
I'm wondering if the em dashes are in part from OCR detecting some normal dashes as em dashes.
Bwint@reddit
It's less noticeable because it's less common, used more creatively, and mixed in with more creative text. But yes, the pattern is absolutely present pre-LLMs.
bityard@reddit
LLM writing patterns read exactly like blogspam to me. Those articles that have infested all Google results, contain long walls of text that say nothing but have lots of affiliate links. I think that's where LLMs get their writing style from.
Imaginary-Unit-3267@reddit
Buzzfeed.
Twirrim@reddit
I'm baffled by this "It's not foo, it's bar" "It's not the main thing, it's the only thing" style pattern they use. Maybe it's rose-tinted glasses, but I really don't remember people actually writing like that prior to LLMs, but it's such a dominant narrative style.
anfrind@reddit
I read a theory that AI picked up those habits from reading marketing materials. Because marketing materials often used those patterns long before AI, and they would be very easy to scrape from the Internet when gathering training data.
specter800@reddit
My theory is that it comes from pseudo intellectual "gotcha" arguments in comment sections all over the Internet that would have been the easiest things to train bots on.
zsdrfty@reddit
I have noticed lately that whenever I read a Reddit thread from 15 years ago, everyone talks so much like an LLM that I have to check the date
superdariom@reddit
I thought I'd spotted a bot in the wild today, checked profile: "Redditor for 12 years" ...
NoahFect@reddit
Doesn't mean much, as you can sell your account. 12-year-old ones probably bring a few bucks.
WhoTookPlasticJesus@reddit
I assumed it came from the self-congratulatory and false humility style of VC/techbro LinkedIn posts and Medium/blog entries. Using marketing and the stye of professional coaches is a good call, too.
Twirrim@reddit
I found out the other day that that weird linkedin posting style has been called "broetry" (among the sources I found once someone mentioned that to me: https://fenwick.media/rewild/magazine/dead-broets-society-behind-the-strange-story )
Bwint@reddit
Parallelisms and especially contrastive parallelisms were a thing before LLMs. It's an effective rhetorical device. Same thing with the Rule of Three. I think these devices were somewhat common in the training data, and LLMs made them way more common than they used to be - like a tiny model collapse or over-fitting.
Teleswagz@reddit
I believe they were styled as such to demonstrate competence and certainty, giving users more confidence in the responses.
spambait-aspaaaragus@reddit
I WRITE THIS WAY it just sounds a lot stupider when it’s coming from AI. AI distilled the pattern into a meme. But it’s a legitimate writing style. It has voice.
WhyIsItGlowing@reddit
I did, it's my fault, sorry. :(
jklre@reddit
Here you go: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.22954
echomanagement@reddit
Cool paper. It established what we already know - the models share a "hivemind" - but doesn't quite figure out why:
"Although the exact causes remain unclear due to proprietary training details, possible explanations include shared data pipelines across regions or contamination from synthetic data. We highlight the need for future work to rigorously investigate the sources of such cross-model repetition."
jklre@reddit
Yeah its pretty neat and was the first paper that popped into my head when you mentioned it. I dont think we will get an answer unless we can compare weights which will never happen.
echomanagement@reddit
Thank you!
Dany0@reddit
I use em dashes and you will pry them from my COLD. DEAD. HANDS.
Borkato@reddit
Do you? Most people I’ve seen who say this don’t actually use them—and if they do, it’s not the way ChatGPT does. They tend to add a space — or use a smaller - albeit still a dash - type of dash.
Dany0@reddit
I am a rare specimen who learned em-dashes because of an interest in typography and scripts in general. Usually when you see people online using em-dashes, there's a good chance they learned them on mac os which always allowed users to type emdashes easier, option + shift + -
Either that or they have a journalism degree
Maxxim69@reddit
I learned Alt-(numpad)0151 on Windows way back in the early 2000s. Russian punctuation rules require em dashes in quote attribution, I used to translate lots of press releases, and I'm a bit of a stickler for proper typography, so as you guys say, I could not not do it. Now I just chuckle every time some random internet genius calls me a bot.
thread-e-printing@reddit
Or they're old Unixheads and fell in love with the Sun Compose key
UncleEnk@reddit
I usually see
ttkciar@reddit
Yup, that's been my habit for about forty years now.
MaycombBlume@reddit
Whether you should use spaces around em dashes is a matter of style, and common style guides disagree. If I remember correctly, AP says to use spaces, while Chicago says not to. No idea what the standards are outside of the US.
I doubt your average PC user even knows how to type a proper em dash.
ReadyAndSalted@reddit
I'm gonna guess it's because of a mix of RLHF and some bias in the early data sources.
badjohnbad@reddit
Ah yes, red linux hat fenterprise, I see.
WhyIsItGlowing@reddit
Real Life Have Fun is what we should all aspire to at this point.
thread-e-printing@reddit
Qwen, write me a browser extension that lets me add more up arrows beside reddit comments
SeyAssociation38@reddit
I remember reading somewhere that the creators of LLMs were often raised in California, where they were taught to write like ai does nowadays. Open ai has as a goal making text sound natural which turned out to be the way they were taught to write in school lol
phazei@reddit
All intelligence converges to the same point.
No_Swimming6548@reddit
And honestly? This is what this sub has become.
SmartCustard9944@reddit
The best part? All of it.
Dany0@reddit
DELETE IT FROM MY BRAINNN DELETE IT AAAAA I DO NOT WANT IT
PLEASE REMOVE THE SLOP SPEECH FROM MY HEAD BEFORE I ACCIDENTALLY UTTER IT IRL AND USE IT UNIRONICALLY
laexpat@reddit
I’ve always used hyphens or em dashes or whatever. Now I have to reread the sentence to make sure it won’t read like slop if I do.
dataexception@reddit
I still do use them, but usually have enough of my regular bs rambling that it's pretty clear that I can't focus enough to be mistaken for anyone/anything else.
autoencoder@reddit
Not only has it embedded itself into your brain — you will begin to use it as well, and you have no choice.
GrokiniGPT@reddit
You've hit the nail on the head — repeated exposure to text patterns will inevitably change the way you speak!
thekoreanswon@reddit
The other day I ended an email with "I can add a few delicate sentences about this in the draft for (name) if you'd like." I paused. Realized I sounded like a bot. Then had to break the fourth wall and actually close my email with a sentence about how I almost signed off sounding like chatgpt
TheRealMasonMac@reddit
I was going through Stackoverflow answers to train an LLM, and I was shaking and crying because I never realized how much of the slop patterns came from this site! "You're absolutely right!" appears more often than it has any right to in pre-2022 answers.
bityard@reddit
LLM also are/were heavily trained on blogspam sites... The ones that pop up in your search results for everything, and contain pages and pages of useless prose and background before answering your question, if they ever do. My hypothesis is that this is a big reason why the output of earlier models was so easy to spot, blogspam all sounds pretty much the same.
BorderKeeper@reddit
Honestly using all caps make your post really punch above its weight and here is why that’s a good thing:
pauljeba@reddit
You’re absolutely right—AI-speak can affect human slang. Its not humans mimicking AI; it’s AI slang becoming the new reality.
pauljeba@reddit
You’re absolutely right—AI-speak can shape human slang. It isn’t humans mimicking AI; it’s AI slang becoming the new human reality.
legal_ghost@reddit
You're not having an LLM induced mental breakdown. You're reclaiming your analog sovereignty.
Neighbor_@reddit
Humans imitating AI is hilarious
philmarcracken@reddit
he was on the edge and you just pushed him right off
sciencewarrior@reddit
And honestly? That may have been the right call—not a transition, but a full rupture.
Medical_Tension7931@reddit
This isn’t a breakdown—it’s a paradigm shift shift asserting itself.
fiveeeees@reddit
I CANT TAKE IT STOP
Dany0@reddit
u n me brother. i got violence brewing in my hands reading this. a very butlerian kind
laexpat@reddit
lol
KerouacsGirlfriend@reddit
I did it today. “It’s not x, it’s y!”
Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit (OP)
This is the real unlock.
Karyo_Ten@reddit
The smoking gun
DifficultyFit1895@reddit
This is how they quietly changed everything and why it matters.
Nazreon@reddit
Maybe the real friends were the AIs we met along the way.
AvidCyclist250@reddit
The real kicker is that youtube is fucking dead.
luncheroo@reddit
It's worth sitting with.
Ok-Measurement-1575@reddit
lol
Ylsid@reddit
You're absolutely right!
daniel-sousa-me@reddit
specter800@reddit
Great point! I can see why that would be frustrating...
Zestyclose-Ad-6147@reddit
You found the smoking gun!
Icy-Pay7479@reddit
And that's the real unlock.
CommunityTough1@reddit
That's a sharp analysis, and you're absolutely right to push back on this. But I want to show down here and engage this rightfully, because I think this deserves careful consideration of your points, so let's break it down.
NaanFat@reddit
now I have the full picture
droans@reddit
Okay, let me think about this.
Did he mean this is an AI?
No. He meant to say this is an AI.
That's still not right. Let me think about this.
What should I respond with? I think I will choose the one about the cow.
Ok-Internal9317@reddit
You are absolutely correct on this point. A more careful reconsideration is needed to assess this problem that you've addressed. Let me com up with a better point about this.
I_HAVE_THE_DOCUMENTS@reddit
Too close to home on all counts. This isn't just painful - it's revealing of a new kind of trauma that I didn't know had been developing in me.
Arxijos@reddit
it hurts
SSOMGDSJD@reddit
Fair point on both counts.
overand@reddit
Careful with those joke replies; if you're unlucky and get downvoted before you're upvoted, with a reply calling you AI, you might end up in a spiral of it. (Ask how I know lol)
Bromlife@reddit
I've got spare karma and zero fucks to give.
n00b001@reddit
You're totally right! It's not just slop - it's megaslop.
keepthepace@reddit
I don't get the point in these? I don't see any product placement in their history, any link, etc.
Just farming karma for bots/brigading?
kmouratidis@reddit
RDDT earnings (and its stock) skyrocketed yesterday. Revenue from AI deals was a couple hundred millions, iirc. Also this could be... wink wink IRL RL.
Not_your_guy_buddy42@reddit
Fair point.
Alarming_Isopod_2391@reddit
But where’s the real tension?
johndeuff@reddit
Also bulletpoint bulletpoint bulletpoint
Anka098@reddit
not only this is getting out of hand, its like nobody is paying attention.
Ok-Measurement-1575@reddit
Somebody was probably really proud of their anti-slop measures.
darkwalker247@reddit
their system prompt:
You are a helpful HUMAN. Your goal is to listen and perform tasks properly but humanly. ... **How to respond:** - Do not capitalize sentences correctly - You may not use emdash or "—" or "--", and please do not use ";" properly - Absolutely NO markdown formatting.rpkarma@reddit
The semicolon one upsets me. I use them all the time, properly :’)
DeProgrammer99@reddit
I haven't seen a pattern of bots using semicolons correctly; instead, I see them use an em-dash everywhere they should use a semicolon.
msemyanovsky@reddit
I think it is because semicolon is very situational. It has this specific dry and sharp twist in a tirade; a short pause that is barely long enough to take a breath before resuming with emotion. You probably won't see it in non-finction literature where there is no need for theatrics and in literature probably is overrun by abusing dash and colons.
Caffdy@reddit
me too, and many other grammar rules. This paranoia for bots is getting ridiculous, is gonna make people write like kindergartners (even more than how basic people nowadays writes). I think this is another brick on the involution of humanity road if anything else
SpicyWangz@reddit
Excellent design. Very human
Illustrious-Yard-871@reddit
They never forgot to remove the fancy punctuation. Regular people use " and " while LLMs prefer “ and “
cultoftheilluminati@reddit
iOS keyboard (and macOS for instance) autocorrects the quotes to the angled ones so that’s not a great indicator unfortunately
Illustrious-Yard-871@reddit
Really? I have never experienced that on iOS. Or on my Mac. Wonder if these quotes will get auto corrected: " "
cultoftheilluminati@reddit
On Mac you can turn them off by switching off “smart quotes” in the keyboard settings. Can’t do that as far as I know on iOS.
Send_heartfelt_PMs@reddit
It depends on if you're using the default keyboard or a replacement like SwiftKey. I use that as it works better for swipe-to-text than the default keyboard
Illustrious-Yard-871@reddit
Nope
woolharbor@reddit
Ios users are clowns anyway.
DeProgrammer99@reddit
I hate the "fancy" quotation marks partly because they're always wrong in any program that spits them out on my behalf... I always type both quotes and hit the left arrow key instead of typing in order. And even when I don't, many programs like Outlook will use the ending quotation mark if there's anything other than a space immediately preceding it. So they end up being ugly, wrong, and not code-friendly, haha.
CraftedCalm@reddit
Not if you’re on an iPhone: “ by default " requires padding and holding the “ till the selection pop up show (Full suite of that buttons selections: " ” “ „ » «)
darkwalker247@reddit
oh wow I never even noticed that they used different quotation marks before. the difference is so subtle 😮
Thunderstarer@reddit
It really just comes down to your phone's defaults. My old one would use the positional quotes.
MoffKalast@reddit
A key difference, one might say. Almost touching up on something real perhaps.
specter800@reddit
Me when I Unicode instead of ASCII.
FatheredPuma81@reddit
you know what, i think you're wrong here. I mean, sure there are some impressive anti-slop measures but it doesn't mean we can't appreciate the effort that goes into them. maybe they were just trying to do their job and keep everything organized. I don't know, it just seems a little harsh to make fun of someone like that
-Yours truly, Vicuna 33B
Grayly@reddit
It’s annoying because I used m-dashes a lot in my legal writing before AI become commonplace. It was an effective writing tool— like this, to set off a connected thought that was more adjacent that a mere comma.
This post shows how you can really tell if it’s AI written by the form and language structure alone. The m dashes really don’t matter.
But I’ve had to start retraining myself how to write to use m dashes less because everyone just assumes I used AI as soon as they see one.
A real bummer.
Lux_Interior9@reddit
Yeah, the fact that people are annoyed by the use of proper grammar is insane to me.
This whole post and comments illustrate how fucking stupid we're willing to become.
Your willingness to dumb yourself down, for LEGAL shit is fucking terrifying. Please don't cave to this idiocy.
Grayly@reddit
Unfortunately, whatever the judge says goes. So if the judge thinks I’m using AI, that’s an impression I don’t want give.
Whether he or she is being stupid or not is not something I get to argue.
mc_nu1ll@reddit
wait until you see Word auto-correct regular dashes to the Em-ones; I unironically have to correct them in my assignments, even if the profs aren't too happy about it
2Norn@reddit
never seen m dashes before chatgpt tbh
im not sure but it probably doesn't even exist in my native language
like literally never seen it, all i know is this - regular dash i just dont like using it
wewerecreaturres@reddit
I also prefer an em dash over a semicolon. Just looks better imo
Hirudo_Mortifer@reddit
Somewhat off topic: how come the reply is listed as "3h ago" but the reply to that reply as "2h ago"?
draconic_tongue@reddit
sometimes i let my ai use my account, that's the fun part, you can never tell who's talking
https://i.redd.it/ilf4sfs66ryg1.gif
mc_nu1ll@reddit
r/masterhacker
MoneyPowerNexis@reddit
https://i.imgur.com/jlzNFKt.png
mistnmc@reddit
I'm new here, can anyone explain me what's the point of having bots responding to threads like I'm dumb?
mc_nu1ll@reddit
karma farming to then promote scams or sell accounts
skibare87@reddit
Fair point — 🫠
Sufficient-Rent6078@reddit
This is just great - with all the AI slopisms I'm now actively trying to avoid using certain parts of the English language.
Briskfall@reddit
LLMs reinforcing humans to be more avoidant of past human patterns that were robbed by LLMs, just great.
mc_nu1ll@reddit
can't wait until the models start writing in the new "post-llm" iteration of English; once they do, then what? something even newer? or looping back? idk, we'll see
ProfessionalSpend589@reddit
Like rebellious teenagers which invent their own slang.
wasnt_in_the_hot_tub@reddit
Fair point
CondiMesmer@reddit
Here's the rub;
t4a8945@reddit
Pardon my long screenshot, but yeah, same "Bruh"
2Norn@reddit
what is the point i dont get it
wtf do you get from botting in a rando sub in reddit?
turning internet into even more poo? trolling people? wtf is the point?
mc_nu1ll@reddit
karma farming to then push whatever scam they are working on this time
tricky-oooooo@reddit
It sometimes feels like some of the chinese labs try to advertise their models that way.
spinozasrobot@reddit
Screenshots that end too soon!
FatheredPuma81@reddit
I'm not 100% sure on this one tbh so I removed his name. That last comment is 100% an AI response though.
Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit (OP)
You almost got him lol. If you want here's another bot that seems to be replying to my comment on a cron schedule: https://www.reddit.com/r/hermesagent/comments/1sx4hto/comment/oisgd50/
ttkciar@reddit
That bot is banned in LocalLLaMA, but there isn't anything sub mods here can do about the bot's activity in a different subreddit.
Cosack@reddit
Did they ever get the recipe? Now I want brownies
t4a8945@reddit
Unfortunately no, and now I'll never know how to make them :(
Ok_Tank_8971@reddit
r/DeadInternetTheory
Caffdy@reddit
Ok, in all honestly I cannot seem to distinguish what part of that made you think is AI, maybe I'm disincentivized or something, but can you explain to me what it is? It reads like any other comment I find everyday on this sub or any other
HighDefinist@reddit
The “AI-written” recognition point feels important. A smaller/local paragraph can punch way above its weight when the vibe is decomposed first, but it is probably not the best fit for vague “make this sound human” prompts.
That seems like the real detection-saving stack:
fluency by default hedge before assertion self-reference only when the paragraph earns it
lqstuart@reddit
"it performs the act of being a paragraph, with the quiet confidence of a productivity tool explaining empathy to a conference room. " this is so awesome lol
HighDefinist@reddit
Yep, that's my favorite part of it as well ^^
TheRealMasonMac@reddit
The first sentence is the first hint of something being wrong because it follows the unique assistant persona that all LLMs have been RLHF'd into but humans would almost never do outside of a specific set of circumstances. But everything that follows more or less gives it away because it's overly dramatic as though you solved an issue that nobody else has solved before. And if you read it, notice how it adds nothing of value. It's overly sycophantic praise.
It follows a predictable structure (someone mentioned it better than I did in a post a while ago, but I'll try to paraphrase):
- It opens with a vague headline/hook.
- It continues with points that say the same thing as the headline/hook but with more words.
- It ends with a tl;dr summary.
Beyond that, there are also slop phrases that LLMs just overuse for tech:
- local workflow (a human would likely just say workflow since it's implied)
- punch way above its weight
- stack
At some point, though, you can't tell. And slop changes all the time. Right now, we're in the Claude-dominated slopfest. It's a shame that Reddit added the feature to hide histories since that is a reliable way of identifying bots.
LuckyLuckierLuckest@reddit
What does “punches above their weight” actually mean?
kristopherleads@reddit
I feel like people are over-projecting on whether something is AI or not. You have to remember that these models are designed largely to reflect written content from their data sets, so high-quality writing or generalised cadences are going to sound like AI even if they're not. Too many students and professional writers are being accused of "being bots" when it's just people writing the way you're supposed to write.
Hanabink@reddit
Right, I’ve been accused of using AI because I write in a very structured way. Even before AI, I tended to write like that.
kristopherleads@reddit
I feel like the venn diagram of "people who have been accused of using AI for their writing" and "autists who are just really good writers" is a very very narrow overlapping set of circles. At least it is in my case lol.
IceTrAiN@reddit
That's a great catch! Here's where the real nuance comes in -- .. just kidding. You're right though, the more "correct" you write the more AI it sounds, aside from the em-dashes and other "tell" words.
Which is sad when you think about it, because we can tell something isn't human because it's able to write correctly. The output from the Talkie model (the one trained only on data up to 1930 or whatever) is really fun to read because the way English used to be utilized had a very "refined" feel to it and just seemed to flow better.
kristopherleads@reddit
It's really disappointing, and it's going to just result in people not contributing to the community anymore.
UniqueIdentifier00@reddit
77 years later and we already need a reverse Turing Test.
NakamericaIsANoob@reddit
This is hilarious 😂
sarimoko-o@reddit
Dead Internet Theory in action
Larimus89@reddit
Yeh for sure this is basically how multi agents works in general. Cheapest fast model first, reasoning as needed.
If it’s worth the cost to have an actually local server you can probably fit a decent size model and might as well use it. Then custom trained one for business logic as needed
IrisColt@reddit
That haiku at the end, heh
TokenRingAI@reddit
you're absolutely right! This is not just ai slop — this is ai slop at it's finest!
No-Data-7135-Deleted@reddit
Are there bots on redddit?
How ? thats not possible
rm-rf-rm@reddit
I didnt see any reports for this account? Its banned now and reported to botbouncer.
We have done most of what we can from the mod side. We are at the point where Reddit needs to step up its spam detection tooling to counter this new gen of spam bots.. Interestingly enough, just 1 comment from this account was removed by Reddit
ThisWillPass@reddit
What if we are using llms to sound more like a bot, to poison our styling data?
rm-rf-rm@reddit
Lmao this is a good one. Well follow the reddit bot rules (most fail to do so) specifically in clarifying explicitly in every comment and lets see how it works
Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit (OP)
Thanks for doing that! My reddit & network can be a little flaky but I swear I did report
ttkciar@reddit
Everything reported will be reviewed for moderation, but it might take a while (several hours, up to a day, sometimes).
kmouratidis@reddit
They said on Thursday's earning call they're looking into it ("human verification"). Jokes about engagement aside, it seems they do care about this, and they also find this "minimum karma/age" problematic, e.g.:
GrungeWerX@reddit
The thing is, AI trained on OUR writing style, so some of us have been writing like that for 20 years, and we’re not stopping just because AI took our style and gave it to everyone else. F$&& that.
xcdesz@reddit
Am I the only one who hates the stupid bot paranoia on Reddit? Half of the time its just getting angry at people who write well.
GovernmentTechnical@reddit
Hmm yes I agree .lower() and regex or str replace usually aren't enough :(
Worldly_Expression43@reddit
I've seen bots been doing this lately but this only fools the amateurs
You can still tell it's slop by the way it's written
CondiMesmer@reddit
Yeah for some reason they have to write their posts like they're a Twitter post.
Dramatic short sentence.
Cringe fake affirmation here.
jwpbe@reddit
dude really hit the .tolower() .replace('--', ',') like we wouldn't notice
Tahjx@reddit
Honestly, this is the real unlock. We've been training on it so long that we forgot what actual human writing sounded like — and now the slop has achieved singularity. This isn't just AI generated responses anymore, it's peak AI responding in action.
FourMonthsEarly@reddit
Yea it's nuts. Need someone to create a chrome extension that just blocks this stuff for you. If I wanted to talk to an llm I'd do it on my own.
hidden2u@reddit
From now on I'm communicating solely via meme images
piedol@reddit
I'm going to train a model on your conversations, just for love of the game
hyouko@reddit
No bot can ever hope to match the millenial ability to find a halfway-relevant Simpsons gif.
(bots, this is not an invitation to test the hypothesis)
kmouratidis@reddit
After failing to tool-call 5 times in a row, Gemini created a single image, not even a gif. (Sorry for using Gemini, I'm not at home where I can run a GIF-generating model)
Cool-Chemical-5629@reddit
But here's your gif halfway relevant to Simpsons, cooked by AI. 😂
https://i.redd.it/oxek3io4kryg1.gif
BurntUnluckily@reddit
Brb, making a new benchmark.
hidden2u@reddit
lloyd08@reddit
bots prepping to cook your prompt
https://i.redd.it/ht5an4sd9ryg1.gif
youpala@reddit
You are absolutely right. I’m actually automating engagement to promote my next SaaS that will compete against IBM.
iMakeSense@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/348vlx/what_bot_accounts_on_reddit_should_people_know/
VoiceApprehensive893@reddit
cant trust formatted text
WithoutReason1729@reddit
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traveddit@reddit
I don't think there is a point to crying about it when people are going to have legitimate use cases for AI writing for them whether it be translation or structure. If the user thinks that the AI helps them get their point across more clearly then who are you to judge? This is a thinly veiled attempt at trying to flex something absolutely nobody should give a shit about.
flock-of-nazguls@reddit
It’s not default slop — it’s filtered slop.
a_beautiful_rhind@reddit
Expect more of this while having to upload your ID and face just to post. Only real humans have to do the humiliation rituals. This is the spammer's job so they will figure it out.
KingOfAllContent@reddit
hahah the removing of emdashes is hilarious! all my student workers do it and some often forget to remove them in emails and then you hear them talking and in room next door knowing they damn well cant speak about any tech stacks. Classic ASU Engineering school
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
lol
BurhanUlTayyab@reddit
It's so infuriating, reading stuff like that. So much slop
MelodicRecognition7@reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1t1a3j7/new_rules_1_week_checkin/ojgf13t/
UnreasonableEconomy@reddit
welcome to the internet. population: you.
Dany0@reddit
bo burnham was right. 20 000 years of this, 1 more to go
BurningZoodle@reddit
Welcome to the internet, what would you prefer? Would you like to fight for civil rights or tweet a racial slur? Be happy, be horny, be bursting with rage We’ve got a million different ways to engage...
is-this-a-nick@reddit
I wish, there are way to many shitheads posting.
rditorx@reddit
So OP is clearly a bot unable to reply properly
Icy_Butterscotch6661@reddit (OP)
Im just not very funny
Athabasco@reddit
Excellent use of agents to spam subreddits, farm karma, and astroturf.
Medium_Chemist_4032@reddit
I literally, unironically laughed out loud
Alarming_Isopod_2391@reddit
Same
assotter@reddit
Good call, sometimes its very human to laugh when you see things.
The bots really are taking over reddit
house_monkey@reddit
Which I had joy and laughter left inside me
SnooPaintings8639@reddit
I hope it was at least a locally run bot...
No_Hunter_7786@reddit
Totally agree local for 80% of tasks, cloud only when really needed. Saves a lot on API costs.
rc_ym@reddit
OK, claude.
StupidScaredSquirrel@reddit
I propose that fom now the best way to communicate is to send videos of ourselves writing down on a piece of paper whatever we wanna say. If bots wanna impersonate humans, we should make it bloody expensive to do so.
Eyelbee@reddit
The future of internet
Dreeseaw@reddit
find n replace with slurs and no one will second guess it
Objective-Picture-72@reddit
That's hilarious.
Similar-Republic149@reddit
yeah honestly most bots in this sub are just poorly tuned auto mods. they usually just do cosmetic fixes or delete comments instead of actually helping with the workflow. the one in the screenshot is clearly just a text processor that is failing at formatting. usually you just have to ignore them unless they are actually catching spam.