China Eastern A350-941 collision with aerobridge at Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport (SHA)

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Maruan-007@reddit

The pilot opening reverse thrust at the gate like he’s in the 90s lol

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YuriRosas@reddit

I believe that the structure is pushing the aircraft backwards.

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omega552003@reddit

I don't think modern engines provide actual reverse thrust. I think the C17 is the last plane to truly implement it.

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xxJohnxx@reddit

Possibly loss of braking - reversers are the only option to get you stopped. Well except running into a jetty of course…

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According to the A350 hydraulic system, the normal brakes are on the same system as the 2 reverser which we see open. They should have brakes. And if they didn’t you would just set the parking brake which has an accumulator.

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stealthraccoon@reddit

Just curious why the pilot use reverser instead of waiting for a tow or something?

Is there a checklist or procedure for brake failure?

Ps: not a pilot.

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Awesome_coder1203@reddit

Well if you’re already moving on the ground and you have no brakes, waiting for a tow is not exactly an option. How are you going to stop?

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stealthraccoon@reddit

Engine off, roll until the plane stops?

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Awesome_coder1203@reddit

It would take quite a while for it to stop.

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Wingmaniac@reddit

The engines take time to spool down, and the plane has a LOT of momentum, it could roll for hundreds of feet.

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xxJohnxx@reddit

Probably realized too late. Engines take time to spool down.

They would never pull into the gate if they knew their brakes wouldn’t work, so they could have been surprised by the sudden failure last second.

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Alternative-Bee-3594@reddit

That’s a mad lad

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3417-@reddit

Did he find the tv remote?

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MonsieurLartiste@reddit

Hi r/ThatLookedExpensive

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Overall-Lynx917@reddit

Pilot was determined to get the nosewheel on the the mark

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JetlinerDiner@reddit

On the A320 mark?

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Mendeth@reddit

The priority boarding lane mark

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NeutralArt12@reddit

Can’t stop a perfectionist

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Vast-Charge-4256@reddit

Did he..... ram twice?

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RIPGoblins2929@reddit

Like me when I'm drunk but she's ready

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Expensive_Ad_3249@reddit

Brake failure.

Using reverse thrust, but doesn't want to back up. So turn to idle, which will still produce around 20% of max. So you can choose idle reverse or idle forward...either pushing the plane with 20,000 ftlb. There is no neutral. Assuming single engine taxi, otherwise double it.

It will also take some time to spool down, looks like the pilots realized no breaks, went to reverse, didn't want to roll back into another airframe or kill someone walking behind so went back to idle hence hitting the bridge again.

Literally nothing they can do without risking life or damaging the aircraft and others.

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wolftick@reddit

Seems like it would be handy to have a neutral thrust position on the reversers.

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bohemian-soul-bakery@reddit

So - this was basically the best outcome.

Expensive but no one is hurt / died (theoretically)

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CarminSanDiego@reddit

Is parking brake not a different function/mechanism?

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bp4850@reddit

No, it uses the hydraulics, usually the same system as the alternate brakes (can't remember exactly for the A350).

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-burnr-@reddit

What?

No airline driver is going to taxi anywhere near a stand without a marshaller and wing walkers.

Given the lack of any ground staff in the video, i would guess one of 2 things...

This is some AI slop to drive clicks

Or

The plane is under tow and the tug driver just experienced a resume generating event

How TF did you get 20 upvotes?

Also, it spelled 'brakes'.

I appreciate homophones are hard for non-english speakers

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Initial-World1172@reddit

This is one of the reasons why passengers have to wear seatbelts until the plane is completely stationary, hopefully no fatalities reported on the plane and ground

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TheKobayashiMoron@reddit

Pilot was just proving a point for the guy that took his off before the chime.

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Gunpowderwigg@reddit

Looks fake, is the pilot an idiot?

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carrickshairline@reddit

Brake failure.

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Gunpowderwigg@reddit

Both green and yellow and accumulators failed?

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carrickshairline@reddit

That is more likely than your claim of the pilot being "an idiot."

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AussieDaz@reddit

Is it sped up? How does he reverse and drive back into it so quickly?

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Awesome_coder1203@reddit

Most likely sped up

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Muster_theRohirrim@reddit

Wow. Is this for real?

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Alternative_Week3023@reddit (OP)

https://www.cztv.com/m/newsDetail/870462

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Noootmynormal@reddit

Wow it looked so fake in the video

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Ruepic@reddit

Probably cause it’s sped up, and the fact they were using reverse thrust to stop.

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Maruan-007@reddit

Yes it is (brake failure apparently)

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Strict_Pipe_5485@reddit

Why the pilot didn't just slam on parking brake or get towed on bay baffles me.

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Metallifan33@reddit

This isn’t necessarily a bad thought. Generally the parking brake is on a different system than normal braking. If both systems failed, they are in a world of hurt. But in a loss of braking scenario, pulling the parking brake is definitely a step.

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Strict_Pipe_5485@reddit

Only 2 Hydraulic systems for the brakes, one for front wheels on each bogie, one for aft wheels on each bogie, emergency mode (park brake handle) bypasses the computers. Electrical issues should be isolated to each subsystem as the cabling runs a different route so one damaged wiring harness won't take out everything at once.

Hydraulics could easily be an issue but having 2x engine driven pumps on each engine offline along with both electric pumps offline is unlikely. I've seen hydraulic fuses popped but never more than one at a time and this would require 4 at once. Leaks would cause low hyd resivior causing low pressure but that's the job of the fuses to isolate.....

Failure logic follows that chances of having 4x computer failures plus 2x hydraulic system failures at the same time is exceptionally low.

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Maruan-007@reddit

Well to early to ask this question but if it was actually a brake failure and lost all the brake systems you can’t slam the parking brake.

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Strict_Pipe_5485@reddit

Yeah look I grant it's early with little info, but pretty much the only scenario where the brakes don't work is dual hydraulic failure which is not something you can ignore, the flight deck becomes VERY noisy.

At this point there's still hydraulic accumulators where you have 3-5 brake applications before the brakes run out, so either they took the risk hoping they had enough accumulator left knowing they had no hydraulics available or they had brake management computer failures in which case the park brake would have worked perfectly.

The architecture of the primary, alternate and emergency braking systems is designed to make this scenario expectionally hard to end up at and even if you do you stop.the aircraft somewhere ona. Taxiway....

Personally I would have expected they requested to be towed on bay if brakes weren't working.

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Twitter_2006@reddit

Comes weeks after the door of an A350 was damaged - same airline.

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TotallyNotMe8969@reddit

that was china airlines (taiwan) not china eastern (mainland)

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D0ntC4llMeShirley@reddit

Yes but the video is sped up for sure.

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HelloSlowly@reddit

In Attenborough’s voice

*restrained by her brakes, the mighty Airbus has had enough. She strikes fiercely at the aero bridge. Taking down her long needed prey not once. But using her impressive reverse thrust to strike at it again.*

*The other aerobridge looks on haplessly. It’s going going to be a long night at the gate.*

*The XWB has had its meal*

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Puzzlehandle12@reddit

Nice! Very well written, did you use ai to polish the wording?

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HelloSlowly@reddit

Mate I would rather get shot in the fucking face than to ever open up those slot machines.

No, this was just me typing from my ~~toilet seat~~, I mean my morning desk during my morning “duties”

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Puzzlehandle12@reddit

lol great job!

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AdamN@reddit

Your morning doodies you say??

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HelloSlowly@reddit

Those whale noises weren’t from an A220

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Apart_Watercress_976@reddit

Mods, make this guy narrate every video.

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laforet@reddit

Alleged ecam messages indicating multiple break failures.

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Awesome_coder1203@reddit

Interesting! Where can I see this? Do airlines publish their aircraft’s fault messages?

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HeReddItNotMe@reddit

No they don’t. It’s accessed via SHM (airbus) or AHM (Boeing) through airline access

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laforet@reddit

Yes, somebody from within the company leaked it on social media.

It was accompanied by another alleged message from dispatch informing the ground operations at SHA that they saw these indications from remote monitoring but thought it was a instrument error rather than actual brake failure, which might have factored into the decision by flight crew to not call for a tug after landing.

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Strict_Pipe_5485@reddit

Wow ECAM would have been having a party, that should have been towed on bay for sure with customers on board. Brake resivior low pressure is a no go stop in place where I come from precicley because of the risk of what just happened.

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Quantum353@reddit

That’s gonna be expensive….

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Twitter_2006@reddit

Yeah.

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TheCaptMAgic@reddit

You're good! You're good! You're good!

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so-sick@reddit

Very similar to a parking lot in Rosemead and Monterey park, on any day..

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Horatio-Leafblower@reddit

Hey FO did you feel that?
FO - What?
Captain - hang on …… what about That?

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wanliu@reddit

At least three times. You can see wing damage when the video starts.

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Deep_Fry_Ducky@reddit

“Why can’t I move further, let’s pull back and push harder”

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Glad-Mongoose2914@reddit

The jetbridge has connected successfully

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GlynHugh@reddit

If at first you don’t succeed…🤣

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No-Arugula8122@reddit

Please tell me this was an Asian woman driving that thing

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Stick to day labor. It fits your abilities better.

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Rusty-Dildo-Inside@reddit

Me trying to park in the center of Lisbon

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1320Fastback@reddit

If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

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amand8@reddit

The second hit makes me think this was intentional and they really wanted to prove a point to the gate bridge. Not to mess with the a350

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kajeyn@reddit

Double Tap!!

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Old_Lengthiness_250@reddit

Guy in the wheelchair at economy class bridge gonna have a wild story.

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mach1alfa@reddit

Probably the safest plane crash

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biggsteve81@reddit

Not if anyone was in the jet bridge.

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LogExpert5281@reddit

I don’t know how you can blame brakes for this.

If I run over someone. Then back up a little bit. And then run over them a second time, can I blame brakes failure, too? (Asking for a friend 😝)

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Migglle@reddit

Thats not how it works. Theres no neutral gear. You either go in reverse (idle reverse thrust), or you go forwards (idle thrust).

The pilot clearly put it in reverse to stop them from hitting the jet bridge, but didnt want to hit anything behind them, so put back in normal idle instead

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Micesmoi@reddit

Lucky it didn’t go straight into the terminal

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https://youtu.be/i5qpZZBlrq8

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https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/569864

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CapPsychological8767@reddit

looks expensive

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lorkan100@reddit

ooh that first jolt... rip that airframe

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Conradical314@reddit

You can park there mate.

Just not like that

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Conscious_Award1444@reddit

Its the the Battlestar Galactica ramming the Cylon hive ship

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Me_be_Artful_Dodger@reddit

She broke her back, she’s not jumping anywhere

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More videos of the incident on https://x.com/turbinetraveler/status/2050461812940788098?s=46

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IATA	ICAO	Name	Location
SHA	ZSSS	Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport	Shanghai, Shanghai, China

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