Do Americans actually call teachers by their first name anywhere, or is it almost always Mr./Ms.?
Posted by Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 697 comments
Hello everyone, asking this because in movies and online, I sometimes see very casual student-teacher interactions, while in many places calling a teacher by first name would feel strange or disrespectful. Is using first names actually common in some American schools or colleges, or do most students still stick to Mr., Mrs., Ms., Professor, etc.? I would really like to know what feels normal from your experience.
Mystic_Owl_Card44@reddit
The only time and place I have seen instructors called by their first name was at the college level. Even then, I have only had like 5 professors go by their first name (most of them have been in my PhD).
Fancy_Elk565@reddit
For some younger grades students will call their teacher Mr./ms. First name but middle school and high school is almost exclusively by last name.
National_Employer_11@reddit
In some schools, yes, this is normal. At most schools — no. This would really only be a thing — first names — at certain private schools. I know that Quaker schools often have teachers go by their first name. I’m a teacher and allow Mr. [LastName] and Mr. [LastInitial]. Some teachers allow, for example, “Doc” if they have a PhD. Some teachers allow a nickname.
Some teachers will allow first names, as I said, at certain schools.
In college, it’s pretty normal for someone to be called their first name. 50/50 at the university I went to, which was a prestigious research school, so I think it’s pretty representative.
haightor@reddit
It’s not standard to call teachers by the first name and it’s often seen as disrespectful and rude. Certain teachers might be ok with it but one must never assume.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Yes, that was exactly my doubt because in many places students would never assume that level of casualness.
nope-its@reddit
Preschool kids do tend to call their teachers by their fist name, but also with a title in front of it (like Ms Brittany)
JessicaGriffin@reddit
Or “Teacher [First Name].” That’s how my sister’s class refers to her.
nope-its@reddit
I HATED being called teacher
Far_Shop_3135@reddit
I hate when the teachers at school make the kids call me Miss Firstname haha.. I mean I get they are trying to teach them respect but I'm uncouth, not a teacher, and am fine with firstname or Mrs Lastname.
SharpHawkeye@reddit
Especially when the teacher has a hard to pronounce name for littles. Shout out to Ms. Piscatelli!
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
Some teachers (and people in general) don’t like being called their last name and in most schools it’s their choice what to be called. In those cases calling someone something different than how they introduced themselves/what they ask you to call the is considered rude.
Sometimes students know teachers outside of school so that can be a factor too. If your teacher is your neighbor or your best friend since you were 5’s mom that can change the formality of the relationship.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That makes sense to me, so the teacher’s own preference matters a lot more than I thought, especially when there is already some outside familiarity.
Forsaken_Election708@reddit
Occasionally, you’ll hear Miss or Mister “first name” or “nickname”. I had Mr. K for photography in high school. My daughter had Miss Amy in her elementary school. This is common with people hard to pronounce last names.
Cheedanish@reddit
I have a friend that teaches special ed that goes by a completely different, very whimsical last name as a teacher, because her legal surname is hard to pronounce, especially for children that struggle with speech.
Zealousideal-Tap4767@reddit
This! When my mom taught elementary school a few years ago, the kids nicknamed her "Miss Watermelon" because our last name (which starts with a W) is hard to pronounce. I think a kindergarten writer came up with it and she just owned it 😂
StrategicCarry@reddit
My daughter’s current teacher goes by her last initial because her name is tough even for that age.
meganskegan@reddit
My MIL was an elementary school librarian with a long Polish last name that started with P - A - L. She was Mrs. Pal. Then her son (my husband) joined the Marines and became Ski.
American elementary school kids & Marines: eating crayons and screwing up names since 1775.
greeneggiwegs@reddit
Sometimes a shortened version/nickname of their last name if it’s long or difficult to pronounce too
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
Yeah Miss/Ms/Mr FirstName is pretty common for daycare/preschool and even older kids in more casual teacher situations like dance class. It’s a more casual setup and last names tend longer/ harder for kids to say. These places might also have teenage or college aged helper who it makes sense to go by Miss. Jamie.
Ill_Salad_1022@reddit
Though when my first child was in k5, her teacher called me (about something non school related) and called Hey it's Susie I was so confused bc I didn't "know" a Susie!
Bake_knit_plant@reddit
Yes. The teacher's own preference is everything. And also Mrs Bender (notice I am physically unable to call her Florence to this day and she's been dead 30 or 40 years?) had retired when my daughter met her and she was just a little old lady that baked cookies and collected glass. My daughter never knew her in her professional capacity.
flamesucks@reddit
some our teachers, they don't care if we just call them by their last name.
(ex, mr. smith -- "hey, smith, can you help me on #12")
we call our spanish teacher by his first name because he thinks that calling him by his last name is too formal and makes him uncomfortable.
a lot of teachers also shorten their last names.
(ex, mrs. prichards - mrs. p)
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
Yea kids can’t just decide to call a teacher by their first name. In some cases, especially younger kids, they might not even know their first name.
What media have you seen this in that made you think this was common?
Living-Pomegranate37@reddit
One of my kids had a teacher whose last name was Gay. This was 5th grade btw. All of her kids called called her Mrs. Karen.
Key-Signature879@reddit
One difficult name after another
Living-Pomegranate37@reddit
Yeah but this was Karen was a bad thing. I'm old.
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
This reminded me that I had a 4th grade computer teacher who’s first name was Gay (possibly Gaylord) and the kids def knew and speculated about him and his earring placement.
This-Function1789@reddit
In high school I was one year above my choir teacher’s oldest grandchild. She just always called her Grandma. It was… weird
TManaF2@reddit
I can relate. My Other Half is perhaps closer in age to his first cousins' children than to his first cousins, and later on, they had kids as well. When went down for Christmas, it was a bit of a shift to hear people who asked me to call them "Pop" and "Kitty" most often referred to as "Uncle Frank" and "Aunt Kitty"...
Realk314@reddit
Even being that one of my teachers being my best friends mom, At school I always addressed her as Mrs. xxxxx . I did it at while i had dinner at home, but the relationship didn't change how I approached it.
Bake_knit_plant@reddit
I had a fourth grade teacher who was old but fantastic. Very strict but probably one of the best teachers I ever had. Her name was Mrs Bender.
One day, I realized that she lived behind us two houses over. We visited a couple of times but nothing major -just saying hi as we passed.
My daughter came home and was talking about how Florence gave her cookies and Florence showed her her glass collection and Florence this and Florence that and I realized she was talking about Mrs Bender.
And I wanted to scream because my four or five year old daughter was calling her Florence at her request.
Bitter_Artichoke_939@reddit
U.S. teacher here. I prefer my students to call me by my first name and they always have except for at one school that required last names. Over 15 years of first name usage and I've never had students disrespect me because of it.
Responsible-Salad633@reddit
Unless you're dating them, then it's OK.
garster25@reddit
It's also to maintain a level of authority through respect.
RickySlayer9@reddit
Safe to say Mr or Mrs not safe the other way around
SabresBills69@reddit
in high school the teacher could be young in 20s they might allow first name. in college grad students can call professors by first name.
in my carer I’ve worked with MDs and I call them by first name.
Pudix20@reddit
Coaches too sometimes. Theylll go by Coach Firstname.
ClayWhisperer@reddit
I live in a very small rural community, in which the children address all adults by their first names. This does not change in the classroom (we have a Kindergarten-through-8th-grade school). But the teachers are also neighbors, so the kids encounter them frequently outside of school, and they may have already known each other for years.
Leather_External_755@reddit
Not American question here. Do teachers call pupils by the first name or defer to surname?
cjbanning@reddit
It's certainly not unknown for an American teacher to call a student "Mr. LastName" or "Miss LastName" but if they're doing it they're being deliberately formal, possibly in an attempt to elevate the register/decorum of the classroom. (Basically an attempt to model the respect they expect to be shown.) And it would be very unusual for a teacher to do so with pre-adolescent children.
ReturnMetoEarth@reddit
I only ever had one older teacher do this I think I might have been in 8th grade maybe? She botched my last name so bad I begged her to call me my first name. She would have the class practically screaming the correction at her all day. 🤣 She was not a fan favorite. She also never would call me by my first name. I just had to suck it up the whole school year.
TManaF2@reddit
I had a teacher misread my very basic, easy to pronounce last name as something moderately rude. I had to live with my classmates teasing me and insisting on using that rude name.
pudding7@reddit
First name.
Relevant-Emu5782@reddit
Depends. At my public highschool many teachers called students Mr/Ms lastname. Or if they were pissed at you they would shout Lastname!
TManaF2@reddit
I had two high school teachers who would call us by title and last name. Other than that, we were always called by first name (or first and last, or first and initial if there were, say, two "Johns" in the class) and our teachers were title lastname to their face, with an initial or first name added when discussing them in the third person if there were two instructors (or a teacher and a principal or guidance counselor) by the same last name. I think in one case we had to add a middle initial because we had two teachers with the same first and last names.
Ok_Depth_6476@reddit
Ah that reminds me of driver's ed in high school, where the teacher always called us by Lastname... if he felt the need to shout it, it was usually accompanied by a swat from a rolled up newspaper.
sluttypidge@reddit
A coach is probably calling you by your last name though.
2whatextent@reddit
That was my experience. First name for teachers. Last name for coaches and gym teachers, who were the same people at our school.
pippintook24@reddit
it depends. in my school there were a lot of kids with the same surname, so they were referred to by their first name ( lots of Asian and Hispanic names)
then there were the kids who had the same first name, so they had to be referred to by their first name and surname initial Carmen R, and Carmen V).
then there were the outliers (like me) who were the only ones who could be referred to either way because no one else in the school had our first or last names.
URInMyFace@reddit
First name. Unless it's the football coach.
GreenBeanTM@reddit
When I was in high school there was a legitimate rule against calling teachers by their first name. I found out about it because this one guy in drama club would *always* call our teacher by her first name and finally one day when he did it about 3 times in the span of like 5 minutes she turned to him and was like “look, I don’t care if you call me my first name, you’re not annoying me by doing it. But if Mr. *vice principal* walks in and hears it *I* can get in trouble, not you.”
Derwin0@reddit
Students are always called by their first names.
holymacaroley@reddit
The only one that used last names out of all the teachers I had (before university) was my art teacher who couldn't pronounce my last name. For 3 years I had to hear a weird, incorrect name. Very off putting.
Space-cadet-66@reddit
I’ve always noticed that in British shows the teachers often call the kids by their surnames and the kids often call a teacher just “Miss” rather than “Miss Smith.” We don’t do that often in the US.
Leather_External_755@reddit
Common here especially if it’s a “Posh” school.
haightor@reddit
Always first name. Maybe last name if you’re in trouble.
Leather_External_755@reddit
Gotcha
tlollz52@reddit
Depends. In college I had many professors who preferred to be called by their first name, especially once we were in higher level classes.
In highschool it was absolutely Mr/Ms/Mrs
haightor@reddit
At my college they were all Professor so that might have just been yours. It’s a little more common but still not the norm.
tlollz52@reddit
When did you attend? Would you say your teachers were older (50 or older) or younger?
haightor@reddit
About 13 years ago and definitely older so I’m sure that has something to do with it. My school wasn’t especially prestigious or anything.
tlollz52@reddit
Yea that was around the time when I was going to college but I didn't exactly go to a very prestigious school either lol. What did you major in? I did communication sciences then switched to teaching
haightor@reddit
I was a biology student at the time so maybe it was a little more formal. Are you a teacher now? I’m really grateful for teachers. They have difficult jobs and are so underpaid.
tlollz52@reddit
No, I spent one semester student teaching and thought "this is not for me." I work in Human Resources now.
haightor@reddit
Good on you for doing that!
Ckelleywrites@reddit
I had a biology teacher who started out as a sub. He asked us to call him Jim. He later got hired as a full-time teacher and we had to start calling him Mr. (Last Name).
Remote_Pick_1952@reddit
My last name starts with Mc... I taught high school. My students often called me Mr Mack. I was fine with that.
ar46and2@reddit
It's ok to call them by their first name if they sit in a chair backwards to show you how cool they are
ReticentBee806@reddit
🙄
ImColdandImTired@reddit
This. I’ve only ever had one teacher want to be called by his first name, and that was a young college professor.
Very different from elementary and high school. It’s generally considered disrespectful for children to call adults by their first names. So always Mr/Mrs/Miss Lastname, or occasionally Mr/Mrs/Miss Firstname for elementary teachers.
bugbee5848@reddit
I think in some environments (younger kids especially) Mr./Ms. (First Name) is a thing. Other than that, it's usually Mr./Ms./Coach (Last Name)
Separate_Positive728@reddit
I don’t know…….do you call your parents by their first names….
Emotional-Medium-929@reddit
no
Astute_Primate@reddit
I'm a teacher. I've both worked at and attended schools where both were the norm. It really depends on the school culture at the particular school. I personally would rather be called by my first name, tbh. Alas the school culture at my current school favors honorifics and surnames
MrBillinVT@reddit
My first college class tagged me with Mr. Bill and the name stuck. Even the college president and other faculty called me that.
glendacc37@reddit
In school, we always called them by Mr, Mrs, or Ms. Or if it were a language class, Señor/a, Frau/Herr, etc.
At university, there's little consistency -- some want to go by their first name, others as Professor XXXX, or Dr. XXXX...
Skatingraccoon@reddit
In primary and secondary schools it is almost exclusively Mr./Ms./Mrs. + last name. The age difference is just too great and they need to teach and instill that sense of respect for the teacher.
In university it ultimately depends on each individual professor. Some insist on using proper titles and last name, some may just tell you to use their first name. By this point the student is closer to being a peer as an adult, and it's presumed you will know when to still be formal when needed.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
This explains it really well. So the real shift happens more in university than in school.
Tigerzombie@reddit
My husband is a physics professor. He expects students in the big intro class to call him professor or doctor Lastname. But in the upper level class, using his first name is fine.
mrggy@reddit
Personally I never had a university professor who was ok with us calling them by their first name. It was always Professor Last Name. The students might casually call a professor just by their last name when they're not around, but generally not to their face
cheyannepavan@reddit
The vast majority of my professors were Dr. Last Name and the few that weren't went by their first names. I've never had a professor who used the title Professor. I don't know how common that is or whether it's regional because it was the same for friends/family who went to other schools (I went to a small private liberal arts college in the Northeast).
Skatingraccoon@reddit
I just use the title Professor since not all Professors have a doctoral degree and it's a generally respectful way of addressing someone.
Also though I've seen a few folks introduce themselves with the title. But most of my professors have not insisted that we use any title realistically
cheyannepavan@reddit
All of my professors did have doctoral degrees and introduced themselves with the title, but a few were happy to be called by their first name.
SeaworthinessIcy6419@reddit
It could depend on the major. I majored in Theatre and all my profs for my major we called by their first name. I remember once at a beginning of the year meeting one said as a joke, "and now Professor W will tell us about theatre etiquette." The prof in question said, "well the first rule of theatre etiquette is never call me Professor W." It always threw me when I'd be in a class with non-majors and they'd address the prof as Professor.
TManaF2@reddit
I had one professor who preferred us to call him by a simple, non-obvious nickname - the origins of which he, a linguistics professor, explained in our first hour of class.
brzantium@reddit
I suppose it depends on your field of study. All my professors for my core curriculum were either Dr. or Prof. LastName. But I was a fine arts major and there is no DFA (Stephen Colbert has an honorary one, but that's mostly a joke) and few of my art professors even had MFAs, so they just went by their first names.
When I went to business school in Europe, most of my instructors insisted on Professor.
AluminumCansAndYarn@reddit
I was at a junior college and a few of the teachers were very open about people using just their first names. One of my favorite teachers went by just her first name. She was pretty funny about it too because her first name was Margot and she was like whatever you do, do not call me maggot.
BreadPuddding@reddit
It was super weird going from undergrad to grad student at the same university, in the same department. Suddenly I’m meant to refer to Dr. Smith as “yo, Dave!”
Libertas_@reddit
Yo, Dr. Dave
XandyDory@reddit
I only had one teacher okay with it, my choir/singing teacher. This was due to the nature of the choir class being far more relaxed. The rest were still formal, even the other music classes
tawzerozero@reddit
When I attended University, in particular I found it to be pretty common for lecturers who didn't hold PhDs to prefer their first name rather than Mr./Ms., since they didn't hold the title of Dr.
whuaminow@reddit
I had this situation too, where an English professor I had (for multiple classes, I liked his classes a lot) a Master's degree, not a PhD. People either referred to him as Mr. Beck or Professor Beck, and if anyone slipped and called him Dr. Beck he always patiently corrected them. Out of respect for him I always called him Professor Beck.
TManaF2@reddit
The "Doctor" versus "Professor" distinction depends on which is more prestigious at that particular institution. In many smaller colleges, some professors do not have doctorates, so "Doctor Smith" is a more prestigious title than "Professor Smith". In more prestigious institutions, people don't get to be TAs (Teacher Assistants, who generally run the recitation sessions) until they are well into their doctoral research, or in the limbo between having been awarded a doctorate but not yet an Assistant Professorship or research position. In that environment, "Professor" is the more prestigious title and generally preferred.
msivoryishort@reddit
I'm in grad school in a small department and most of the time everyone is on a first name basis. Don't think thats the norm however
schonleben@reddit
There are also teachers who don’t like the formality of Mx. Lastname but aren’t allowed to just go by their first name, so you’ll get a lot of high school teachers who use Mr. LastInitial or even a completely unrelated nickname. I had a theatre teacher who went by Lou, short for Lucifer. I know a teacher (changing names here, but the structure still applies) named something similar to Jane Phillips = J.Philly.
Dlax8@reddit
And remember in America college/university starts at age 17/18. It is more common to have a teacher be okay with it the older you are, but it's still rare in high school (starting at 13/14)
violet_wings@reddit
At my university (back in the early 2000s) we universally called our professors but their first names. I went to a very progressive university, though, so I'm sure this is not necessarily the norm.
Pulp501@reddit
No offense, but this is askanamerican not askabrit
Maeriberii@reddit
This is the answer with one thing I’d like to add which is if the teacher isn’t so formal, they might let the students call them just by their last name without the title.
I had one teacher who got mad when students did this though.
I’ve had more professors want to be called by their first name than their last, but I go to a community college, so it’s a different environment.
Tankieforever@reddit
At my high school, almost every teacher was Mr/Mrs LastName, the only exception that comes to mind was the one guy with a PhD, who went by Stevo, instead of Dr. Stevenson.
TheFakeMachuga@reddit
In university the most credentialed professors were the most humble professors I had and preferred you call them by their first name or a nickname. Chuck said several times you could just call him Chuck, and not Dr. Allison. He was the department chair for a while, and was on the board that set C++ standards decades ago. Super chill guy, gave me the pdf file for his book on Discrete Math because I wanted a copy to give my father since he was interested...
lumpialarry@reddit
I’ll note sometimes it can be Mr./ms/Mrs +first name in kindergarten and maybe first grade if the last name is hard to pronounce
goddessofgoo@reddit
My school didn't care about how hard it was to pronounce, you learned that name. In first grade we spent half the first day learning the correct very long Greek last mame of our teacher and most of the kids still ended up mumbling Mrs Malalalos instead of the real name.
Low_Attention9891@reddit
I’ve only ever heard of one professor that does that at my University. It’s very uncommon at my University.
Aggressive_tako@reddit
It also gets fuzzy because you'll have grad students teaching some classes. I don't think I called any full PhDs by their first name in undergrad, but I had a teachers who was in the PhD program and like 25 teaching an intro language class. Not going to call a guy I could (and one of my friends did later) date "Mr. Smith".
schonleben@reddit
I think it depends on your field of study as well. In the arts colleges at my university, I can only recall a couple of the PhDs who used Dr. Lastname. The majority used their first names, or at a minimum, Dr. Initial.
any-baker414@reddit
I am an adult, and I call most of my children's teachers by Mr, Mrs, Ms and their last name. I am facebook friends with my 19 years old's second grade teacher ( the teacher she had when she was 8) and I feel uncomfortable calling him by his first name. Lol ( it must be mutual, because he calls me Mrs and my last name. 🤣
bdrwr@reddit
It's more standard to use Mr/Ms, but certain schools and regions have a culture of using first names, and it can even come down to the individual teacher's preference.
Going by first names is seen as more personal and less formal; you see more first name teachers on the west coast than you do in the Midwest or the south.
Salty-Gas-1172@reddit
In my experience teachers usually indicate what they'd like you to use. I've had everything from first names to doctor so and so. Grade school is almost always Mrs, Mr, Ms but sometimes it's Ms first name instead of last. Just depends.
groundhogcow@reddit
It's considered respectful to use mr/ms but if your name is Butkiss they might call you Mr B or use your first name.
ActuallyNiceIRL@reddit
In preschool and sometimes in elementary school, I'd say it's pretty normal to call teachers Mr/Miss first name (depends on the school culture), but in K-12, it's more common for Mr/Miss last name.
At college level... it could be whatever. I've had some teachers ask to just be called by their first name. Or one even went by Dr. First name. I've also seen a teacher crash out on a student for not addressing her as "professor." If the teacher didn't say how they prefer to be addressed, I would just ask them.
flaveous@reddit
Yes, under no circumstances did my children ever call their teachers by a first name. This question is about about children, but I want to point out it's also considered rude for parents to call teachers by their first names unless given permission. I always emailed or spoke to my kids teachers using their formal name - Mr./Mrs. Last Name.
Zealousideal-Tap4767@reddit
It's not standard practice. I'd say it's more common at the extremes: really little kids might call their teacher "Miss Sara" instead of "Miss Smith" (also nearly all students in K-12 say "Miss" whether the teacher is a "Ms." or a "Mrs."), and older high-school/college/postgraduate students might be on a first name basis with teachers/professors they're close with. But I can't imagine a kid aged like 8-16 calling a teacher by their first name and not getting in trouble for it.... except in special circumstances: for example, when I was in elementary school, we had two Mrs. Smiths new to the school at the same time, so the official rule was to call the 4th grade teacher "Miss Smith" and the guidance counselor "Miss Brittany;" my first semester of college, if was struggling to adjust to the switch from "Mr./Miss" to "Professor/Dr.," meanwhile one of my professors wanted us to just call him "Clint," so I mostly just didn't address him by name at all when I spoke to him because that felt too disrespectful 😅 More often (but it's still not super common), older students will call a teacher by just their last name without a title– I notice this trend particularly with teachers who are also coaches– at least when referring to them in third person, but sometimes also to their face. If the student has a decent relationship with the teacher and isn't being blatantly disrespectful, it usually goes over fine for them to do this. But also, my mom is a teacher who has worked at nearly every school in our area over the years, and a lot of teachers refer to their colleagues by last name only in this same way, so do with that information what you will.
Overall, it varies based on age, school rules/culture, student-teacher closeness, and individual preferences, but most often you would not find a student in the US calling their teacher by their first name (or at least getting away with it, but I will say that some of these Gen Alpha kids do try it sometimes just to get a rise out of people).
guildedpasserby@reddit
In marching band culture (at least in the South, but I assume nationally) it’s not uncommon to call your director by just their last name without the honorific
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
So there are specific settings where the formality changes a little, but overall, first names still seem pretty uncommon.
guildedpasserby@reddit
Pretty much, yeah
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Okay, got it.
mrpointyhorns@reddit
Very early grades they might do mr./ms. First name. But usually it is last name. Maybe depend on how hard the last name is for a kindergarten class to say
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That makes sense, so even when first names are used, it sounds more like a practical thing for little kids than a normal long-term habit.
MarqiMichelle@reddit
Never did k-12, but some teachers in college wanted us to.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Okay, so college really does seem to be the one place where first names start becoming somewhat acceptable.
GrannyTurtle@reddit
Small children get away with Mr/Ms (first name) for preschool and kindergarten. Once you get to regular school it is Mr/Ms (last name). In the upper grades you occasionally get a Dr (last name), but that is rare.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Interesting, so the first-name part is mostly limited to very early childhood and disappears once regular school starts.
GrannyTurtle@reddit
That’s my experience with it, both as a child and a mother. It can vary. Some preschools stick with last names, others allow first names. I think it lets the kids feel more comfortable at being away from their homes when they use first names.
There is a fun Arnold Schwarzenegger film where he teaches little kids: Kindergarten Cop. IIRC, the kids use his last name.
Very_Veri_@reddit
I will tell you it's really weird is that teachers call each other by Mr and Mrs. School is very formal. I would have gotten trouble if I left the kids call me by my first thing or even buy a nickname. The closest should get is to say something like Mrs M, because the kids who are not native English speakers find my name hard to pronounce.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That is actually more formal than I expected, if even teachers use Mr. and Mrs. with each other. School culture really seems to keep that boundary very strong.
Very_Veri_@reddit
Please forgive The typos it's my phone autocorrecting weirdly
WiseQuarter3250@reddit
usually no, but it may happen once you hit university. Especially in strong mentor/center situations. Though sometimes also coaches and athletes.
AssistanceDry7123@reddit
Through high school all of my teachers went by their salutation and last name.
In college most preferred to be addressed by their first name, but some preferred Professor (last name) or just Professor.
Unusual-Material9443@reddit
i think in most american schools we call teachers ms/mr/mrs. in college there were a few TAs that we called by their 1st name, and i graded for an english teacher and called her by her 1st name, but not when i was in her class. ( i started grading after)
NeverFailTheMayor@reddit
It was uncommon at my public school. But at my husband's hippie charter school, it was the norm.
Hearing him and his friends reminisce can be hard at first when trying to understand if they're talking about a classmate or a teacher.
KindraTheElfOrc@reddit
at my hoghschool there was a couple that were ok with it but for the most part teachers prefer their last name used
Minute-Frame-8060@reddit
No. This isn't Denmark!
Sparkle8022@reddit
When I went to private school (K-6) I had a handful of teachers who went by their first names in class, but in public school (7-12) no one did this except for one, and she was a substitute teacher.
seenstrangesights@reddit
It's rare. There were a few teachers in my school years I called by their first names (I remember specifically my high school gym teacher Todd), but not often. In college/university it's usually a little different, and professors were much more willing to be called by their first names ime.
Gallahadion@reddit
For several years I went to a school where all the adults, from the principal to the secretary, were addressed by their first names, though that changed to the standard Mr. or Ms. + last name sometime after I graduated. It was Mr./Ms. + last name at my high school, too, except for one teacher who told us to use his first name. In college it was Professor + last name, but in graduate school I was less sure; some might have used the same form of address as in college, but some would use the teachers' first name.
knitter_boi420@reddit
The only school staff I saw commonly called by their first name by students were preschool teachers (Mr./Ms. [first name]), instructional assistants (less common in high school), and coaches
MrsMitchBitch@reddit
I know of some independent schools where everyone goes by first name. But that’s the minority.
Level-Aide-8770@reddit
When I was younger we always used Mr/Mrs. However, all my kids’ teachers go by Miss. it’s weird IMO and they also do it for parents.
Gamecockgirl79@reddit
None of my teachers ever allowed/preferred it but my brother went to the same preschool that I did five years earlier and the teachers went by Miss "first name". In my experience, it's really not allowed after that.
pokematic@reddit
In general unless the adult is a close family member (at which point one adds the title of relation such as Uncle or Aunt), it's really rare for children to call any adult by their first name. If the adult is in their 20s or early 30s "Mr/Miss/Mrs [First Name]" is pretty common, but like the only example of "under 14 calling over 19" by their first name is if the child knew the adult as a teen (and teens are not referred to by their title and last name).
Spicy-ankle-hamster@reddit
My kids’ Brooklyn public school was all first names. Maybe not typical but it certainly happens.
TheOfficialKramer@reddit
Always Mr/Mrs. Unless you knew the teacher as a personal friend or a parent or relative. I had a teacher that was a neighbor of mine in a rural area, I knew her all mu life. I called her Kathy, but she was an elementary teacher and I was in high school. My buddy called our Math teacher "Mom," cause he was her son.
NekoTheSpookieCat@reddit
Mostly we stuck to using the honorific. There were a few high school teachers that didn’t object to it, but there were an equal number of teachers who would tear you a new one.
I also wanted to mention that in technical colleges, many instructors DID invite you to use their first name if you were an older student outside of class.
TheLurkingMenace@reddit
I never even knew any of my teachers' first names. I went through 3 full years of school before I learned they HAD first names.
Buffalo24601@reddit
At all the schools I’ve worked at,
it is Ms/Mrs/Mr last name. I’ve known a couple teachers who like to be called Mr/Ms and their first name, but that was unique to them as individuals. For reference, I’ve only ever taught middle and high school.
adrianlovesyou@reddit
It really just varies. My whole life, my private schools did first names. At my kid’s public school now, it’s Mr/Ms Lastname.
dinglepumpkin@reddit
I did for almost every teacher in grade school and high school, except for a few older teachers.
AmethysstFire@reddit
It depends on the classes.
Elementary school: everyone is Mr./Mrs./Ms. usually last name, sometimes first name. Even other teachers and administration use Mr/Mrs/Ms Last Name.
Middle School: kids are still to use an honorific and a last name. This begins to change is some of the art/art related classes. It totally depends on the teacher. Other faculty and/or administration begin referring to each other by firs name.
High school: absolute mixed bag. Core classes are usually still an honorific, but art/art related classes are first name basis. Again, it also depends on the teacher.
BasicallyADetective@reddit
I’m a teacher in a very diverse urban area. NONE of our teachers go by just their first name. Because of the mix of ethnicities, which make some names difficult for students to pronounce, many go by an initial such as Ms B, Mr P, etc. One unfortunate PE teacher has the last name Hooker, so he goes by Mr. Joe.
Lovebeingadad54321@reddit
My daughter is in speech therapy and eating therapy for ARFID. The speech therapy is through the school district, but the ARFID therapy is a private medical provider. At the private provider, the therapist all go by Ms. first name. There was an intern sitting in on my daughter’s therapy, and we referred to her as Ms. first name. When she finished her internship and graduated, she got a job at my daughter’s school as the speech therapist. Now my daughter refers to her as Ms Last name.
Kestrel_Iolani@reddit
Did you ever see the TV show MASH?
The first commanding officer was Henry, folks had one kind of relationship.
The next CO was Colonel Potter, folks had a different kind of relationship.
Same with professors. I had a debate teacher named G----- and a debate teacher named Mr. L------.
Mark_Zuckabitchorsum@reddit
Ms/Mrs/Mr/Miss. "lastname" I never called a teacher by their fistname even out of school.
normiepitbullmom@reddit
Never once called a teacher or professor by their first name. Maybe if it’s a pre-K teacher, you would call her “Miss Carrie” or something but that’s not normal.
AuntieWatermelon@reddit
kindergarten until high school we called all teachers “mr. or mrs./ms last name”. generally using their first name would be disrespectful. but when i went to college they basically had a school wide policy that you’d call the teachers by their first names. it was soooo weird and uncomfortable at first but i got used to it pretty quick.
SeaworthinessIcy6419@reddit
In K-12 it would be unacceptable to call teachers by their first name. Some may go by Coach Lastname if they coach a team at the school. I recall in high school referring to teachers by just their last name and dropping the prefix, but this was just when talking with friends, I'd never have addressed them this way.
Now college, it varied widely. The general rule was to default to Professor Lastname unless told otherwise. I had many profs who just had students call them by their first name. But at that point we're all adults so it made sense.
MasterOfPuppetsMetal@reddit
Better safe than sorry and refer to your teacher by Mr./Ms/Miss Smith.
I vaguely remember a few teachers here and there that were ok with being called by the first name, but most weren't ok with it.
helicopter-pp@reddit
it's really up to their preference and your relationship with them. just the first name is pretty unusual, but it's really common where i live to drop the "mr./ms./mrs." and just refer to them by last name. or, if you have that teacher as a sport coach, some are "coach (first name)" but you respect it if they prefer their last name. my bowling coach didn't even go by his first name in his personal life, so naturally we used his last name.
a teacher i had once had a pretty unfortunate last name (commonly mispronounced like a slur) and requested to be called "coach (first name)" by all his students instead. not sure how common that is.
not sure if this is unique to my school but if two teachers have the same last name (married, parent and child, etc.) we'll either re-add the "mr./mrs." or say "young/old (last name)". like if there's a mr. smith in his 60s who teaches science, and his son in his 30s teaches english, they'd be "old smith" and "young smith", respectively.
PhillyNickel1970@reddit
I've called my grade school teachers Mr./Mrs./Ms. TeacherName my entire life and I'm Facebook friends with a lot of them. Still won't call them by their first name.
Push_the_button_Max@reddit
My dad was a popular teacher in my middle school, and when he was my teacher, we discussed beforehand what I would call him in class.
I decided on “Mr. Last Name,” just because that’s what he was to all the other students, and I didn’t want to stick out.
ReeMayRe@reddit
Mr and Ms last name is the standard, unless it's one of those progressive charter schools where they allow first names or they have different titles, like Professor.
Reduak@reddit
Not only do the students call teachers by their formal names (Mr. or Ms.), but teachers call EACH OTHER by formal names. It's to keep students from thinking first name basis is OK, but it creates kind of a weird culture in education.
Parking_Champion_740@reddit
Usually just very progressive schools. Or maybe a preschool where kids would say miss Nancy or teacher Nancy
delishjams@reddit
I only had two teachers we called by first name. Both were drama teachers.
brzantium@reddit
Grade school is Mr./Ms./Mrs. LastName. The "cool" teachers might use their last initial instead of their last name. Teachers with difficult last names might do this, too. Foreign language teachers will use corresponding honorifics from the language they teach (Sr./Sra., M./Mme. Herr/Frau, etc.). Teachers who are primarily coaches will use "Coach" instead of gendered honorifics. My high school biology teacher was a retired US Army colonel who insisted we address him by his rank.
In college, everything changes. We completely drop gendered honorifics. Professors with doctorates are referred to as Dr. LastName. Most other professors are referred to as Prof. LastName. In my final arts classes (except Art History), we used first names.
Montessori_Maven@reddit
The school culture usually determines how students refer to their teachers.
I currently teach at a private school wheee everyone goes by first name. I’ve worked at another where we all went by Miss/Mr first name.
Onyx_Lat@reddit
In my experience, it depends.
In regular school up to grade 12, "Mr./Mrs. Whatever" is the norm. We had one teacher in middle school that we called Mr. K because he had a very long Greek surname that people would mispronounce if they tried to say the whole thing. Also he was the "cool teacher" and half the girls had crushes on him. To this day, if I met one of my old teachers on the street, I would still call them Mr./Mrs. Whatever, even though it would be socially acceptable to call them by their first name now. It would just feel wrong to do it.
In college it's a bit different. Some will insist on Dr. Whatever, or Professor Whatever. (I don't think I ever heard anyone use Mr./Mrs. because having a title from their degree or job trumps a simple gender based title.) But some will insist you call them by their first name since you're both adults. It just depends on how formal the person is, and how formal the situation is.
rels83@reddit
I went to a progressive private school and we did
Usuf3690@reddit
Unless there's been a cultural shift in the last 25+ years that I'm unaware of, calling a teacher by their first name would be disrespectful outside of perhaps a University setting where you might have a professor who doesn't like titles.
Brilliant_Towel2727@reddit
If you see a teacher in a movie who wants kids to call them by their first name, it's probably a signal that they're trying too hard to be popular with the kids. In real life, it would be very rare in K-12 education and a teacher who did ask their kids to call them by their first name would probably get a talking-to from the principal or a senior teacher.
beccamaxx@reddit
My kids go to private school (K-12) and all of the students call their teachers Mr or Miss "First Name". The founder of their school is called Dr Tammy. All of the office workers are called Mr or Miss "First Name" as is their police officer security guard. I've never encountered this anywhere else. At first it was kind of weird to me but after a couple of months it wasn't. My kids are in high school and don't know any of their teachers' last names. 😂
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
They didn't know their teachers last names? Wow. That is wierd.
beccamaxx@reddit
Well, when the teachers introduce themselves to the students by their first names rather than their last names, it really isn't weird at all.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
It is wierd when you never heard of it.
deep_blue_au@reddit
My kids did the same when they went to a Montessori school.
TexGardenGirl@reddit
I think often language teachers will just be called by their title in that language without any name. My Spanish teacher was usually just called Señora, or sometimes Señora Piedra (because her last name was Stone). My first husband taught German and the kids called him Herr. I used to occasionally accompany them on field trips or whatever and expected them to call me Frau, but no their previous teacher was Frau, so I was called Mrs Herr. Pretty weird but also sweet!
christine-bitg@reddit
I never knew the furst name of most of my teachers. I graduated from high school more than 50 years ago.
Qedtanya13@reddit
Always Mister/Ms
Donald_J_Duck65@reddit
Never first name.
pixel-beast@reddit
Only the cool teachers let you call them by their first name
BbqGay@reddit
Never seen or heard of it happening anywhere, nor would I dream of calling any educator of mine by their first name. If they were someone I knew but were not my own educator, that’s a different story.
Asteroid_Blink24@reddit
You are thinking of Verde Valley School in Sedona, AZ. This private boarding school for international students was founded in the 1950s by “progressive” educators. Tuition is probably $60,000/yr by now. IB curriculum, mandatory evening study hall, music program, photography, pottery, horseback riding program and they still talk about the concert Neil Young gave there. Students call ALL the teachers there by their first name and always have. A really good school.
Clueless_Fig@reddit
It depends on the place, I think. In my early years, ages 3-7 we called them by their first names, then from 8-17 it was last names, then I switched to a different school and some were first names, some last, some just first initital, and now in college it's also a mix, art department all first names, English Comp professor said Prof, or Ms, or Mrs, was fine.
Just_Another_Day_926@reddit
I imagine PhD students doing research may call their professor by the first name like any normal working relationship.
I have never seen it. Even going back as a 30YO in an MBA program we would call them Professor X or Dean Y.
SkyPuppy561@reddit
No. If I’d called any of my teachers by their first name, I would’ve been in trouble.
TopperMadeline@reddit
We did with one or two college professors, but that was at their permission.
Far-Building3569@reddit
Maybe like a gym teacher, but I never met a teacher in the public school system who would’ve tolerated that
Even the school nurses were called by their last names. When we’d talk about our teachers amongst ourselves, we’d often omit the title and just say their last name (ex. Doe gave out way too much homework!)
Ironically, the most expensive school systems (preschool and university) are the only time I can ever remember a teacher wanting to go by their last name
Astro_Birch_317@reddit
Nearly half-ish of elementary teachers at my kiddo's school go my "Mr/Ms First Name" and the rest are "Mr/Ms/Mrs Last Name." Almost all middle and high school teachers go the more formal route here, with a few exceptions for an art teacher or culinary instructor, etc. Even as a nontraditional (ie, older) college student, it would have been weird to refer to a professor by first name on campus. I might use their first name at the grocery store or post office, but never on campus.
cowgirlbootzie@reddit
I still refer to my former teachers as Ms. Smith or Mr. Jones whenever I think of them and I'm an adult. 😆
Slight_Manufacturer6@reddit
It’s not standard but is a lot more common in higher grades and very common in college.
Pulp501@reddit
Im starting to see it with younger kids, not really sure what age range exactly but it was never a thing for me in the 2000s, we always called our teacher by their last name. But it does seem like at least younger elementary school students now often use first names, usually with ms, i think even if you're married it would be more correct to use ms (or is it miss? I think it is actually) with your first name
PrincessWolfie1331@reddit
I'm 45, and I'm friends with some of my former teachers on Facebook. It's still Mr., Ms., or Mrs.
Sea-Standard-6283@reddit
It’s mixed at my children’s high school, probably half and half, based on the teacher preference. I never saw it in elementary schools, also it would have been odd in other more urban places I’ve lived. Reference: small and touristy beach town in California where children already know the teachers from just living in the same small place. Also a very casual culture with no dress codes or other formality in most places. People here also usually call local physicians and similar professionals by their first names because we’re all neighbors.
Ginger630@reddit
All the schools I’ve been to and know of have used Mr/Ms/Mrs/Dr. Some college professors have asked to be called by their first names.
Judgy-Introvert@reddit
It depends on the teacher. I had several in high school that went by just their first names. There were others that wouldn’t be too happy if you did that.
tw1nkle@reddit
America is a very big country, and the level of formality is different in different places, at different schools, and with different teachers. My kid has called various teachers “Mr Firstname” “Mr Surname” and currently mostly by their first name. But it’s really variable.
pastrymom@reddit
No. My 6th grade science teacher taught my son a few years ago. She told me to use her first name and I refuse.
cat-kitty332@reddit
In my high school we have four variations depending on the teacher.
Some teachers we call by their first name, some just by their last name, some by their full name [first and last], and some using their title [Ms/Mrs/Mr. (Last Name)].
It’s the standard to call certain teachers certain things, so it kind of just gets passed down to the lower grades too.
Lacylanexoxo@reddit
We certainly didn’t in the 80s. No idea about now
DznyMa@reddit
No, almost always, Mr. or Mrs.
Throwaway-fizzy@reddit
In grade school it was Mr/Mrs/Miss only, anything else would be disrespectful. In college, I tried to call my professors Dr. ___ and they told me not to. The one professor who insisted on being called Dr. was considered cold and stuck up (even though it was totally within her right to want to be called by a title she earned).
Intrepid_Practice956@reddit
I went to a really tiny informal private school through 5th grade. We called our teachers by first name. From 6thgrade on, Mr. or Ms. (Or Mrs. If they insisted)
Intrepid_Practice956@reddit
College was back to First name.
Number-2-Sis@reddit
It's usually Mr. Last name, Miss/Ms last name, Mrs last name. However if the last name of difficult to say then they usually tell students to call them my Mr/Mrs first letter of last name
Common-Independent-9@reddit
I’ve seen people get threatened with detention/ suspension for calling teachers by their first name so I’d say no. We were only allowed to refer to them as Mr/Ms
BrotherNatureNOLA@reddit
My kids call me Mr/Ms First name.
elssi30@reddit
For the most part teachers here prefer Mr/Mrs/Ms, but at some schools with non-mainstream educational philosophies (read: hippie schools) it’s standard to refer to teachers by first names. Some teachers will introduce themselves with first names even at typical schools.
I think what you’re referring to is more a phenomenon where a certain group of students, often goofballs and mild troublemakers, will come back to their old classroom and say hi to their teacher by saying first name or another nickname. It’s a little disrespectful, but not usually in a way that’s minded too much by the teacher. Sometimes they’ll joke around with the former students about it.
LunaTheNightmare@reddit
Its usually mr/miss/whatever tho occasionally when a teacher was cool we'd call them just by their last name
Kbbbbbut@reddit
In preschool it’s actually usually Mr./Ms.first name for some reason.
In grade school it is always Mr./Ms. last name or last initial if they have a tricky name.
And in college I had a couple of professors have us use their first name but it is typically Mr./Ms./Dr./Professor last name unless the specifically request their first name
HeWizardsMyGizz@reddit
I always called my male teachers by last name, and they didn't care. Might just be a guy thing.
Salt-Routine-9388@reddit
My 4 year aged students called me Miss as well as my children’s friends when they were growing up The last name many people have not pronounced correctly nor is it the same as my children
The_Circus_Life_206@reddit
I hope not
Extension_Order_9693@reddit
At my kids old school, all teachers went by first name but at current school, its Ms/Mr. The first school was much more professional and respectful, and the programs were top notch whereas at current school they're just meh.
Architorture_66@reddit
Some college/university professors of mine have requested to just be called by their first name and I've followed that.
12th grade and earlier were always addressed by their last name. The only difference in my life in anything was a 6th grade teacher Mr. Krzyzacki(sp?) who just went by Mr. K to simplify and avoid middle schoolers struggling to say his name.
Khpatton@reddit
I’m a teacher and even though my students can be disrespectful at times, I’ve never had one address me by my first name. I had to ask a student to bring me something from my desk one time because my hands were full and I had to reassure her several times that she was allowed to because she felt even that would be disrespectful.
Impurest_Vessel@reddit
Depends. In elementary school, you weren't permitted to, and students would look them up on the school website to learn their first names (to call them that and make them mad), but saying first names was an automatic detention. In high school, one of our teachers was literally like "Mr. Christoper" and our headmistress was like "Mrs. Jane".
RuckFeddit980@reddit
It has become a lot more common in recent years for teachers to go by Mr./Ms. (First Name) - but not just (First Name)
BouncingSphinx@reddit
Most of the time, it's either Mr./Mrs. Lastname, or Coach Lastname.
More often than other teachers, a coach might go by Coach Firstname.
Baymavision@reddit
I grew up in the northeast and all teachers were Mr/Mrs/Ms. Last name. Some of my kids teachers in the DC area go by Mr/etc. Firstname but that's by their choice.
zephyrus4600@reddit
It’s been 30 years since I graduated high school. I still call my Latin teacher “Mr.” when I see him. I respect him highly.
LongInfinite1837@reddit
When I was in high school we called our teachers by their first names. There was a single teacher that wanted to be called Dr Smith.
It is not common and I went to a very small charter school.
It's common for teachers to either be Mr / Mrs first name or last name.
nctm96@reddit
It’s pretty uncommon. In high school we often called teachers by their last name only, or a nickname version of their last name- but only if they were cool and didn’t mind. For example- Ms. Flanagan was Flan. Mr. Dellachai was Dell. We had married teachers idek what their fully last name was but we shortened it to “Fry”. It was kind of a badge of honor to be called by your last name, like the kids had dubbed you cool and accepted you lol. But there were some we called by the full title too. But never the first name.
Roddy117@reddit
College, I think all my teachers wanted to be referred to by their first name. In high school and lower it was always Mr/ Mrs, even when I see my teachers now once in the bluest of moons I still refer to them as Mr/ Mrs.
astrologicaldreams@reddit
uh, no. most teachers are called mr./ms./mrs.
it's seen as disrespectful to adress them by their first name. there's actually some tiktok videos out there of american kids calling their teachers by their first name. most teachers do not react well to it lol
ToastetteEgg@reddit
Never. Parents don’t either.
No_Lemon6036@reddit
When I was growing up we always used the honorific, but my niece and nephew are in an elementary school where they call all the teachers by first names only, and it is always jarring to me.
Sataypufft@reddit
In elementary and middle school my kids always referred to their teachers with Mr/Mrs/Ms. In HS it changes a bit around here and quite of their teachers go by their last name. I've even heard other parents referring to the teachers by their last name, ie, Jones instead of Mr Jones.
grunkle_dan78@reddit
it really seems to depend on the teacher, and the context. when I was in high-school, my favorite English teacher was "Mr. Lastname" when I had his class but was just "Firstname" when I was his TA. Roll on to 30 some years later, my youngest kids have teachers young enough to have been my kids, and they go by "Firstname". It seems to be a bit of a cultural shift in the teaching profession, with some teachers being comfortable with a more informal relationship with students.
Apprehensive-Pop-201@reddit
It's usually, Miss/Mrs. Harris, Mr. Jones, maybe Coach whatever.
Turdulator@reddit
It varies by age…. Preschool is almost always “Mr. *first name*”….. then elementary school and high school is “Mr. *last name*”…. Then in college/university it’s mostly first name except the more pretentious professors make you say professor or doctor.
DrGerbal@reddit
Pretty much always Mr or Mrs. Sometimes coach than last name if they were a teacher and coach of a team. Unless they prefer it
MrDBS@reddit
In college we called the professors in our department by first name or a nickname. Outside our department it was professor or doctor Lastname.
MrDBS@reddit
My professors were Lani, Thad, and Doc.
Live_Barracuda1113@reddit
My students would NEVER call me by my first name. I've been teaching long enough that some are my colleagues now. I am still Mrs. Barracuda even when I tell them to call me otherwise.
I teach Juniors and Seniors but taught middle school for year. It is either my formal name or Miss. (Which is common for students who are from other countries.)
Remarkable-Hawkeye@reddit
Lately they’re all called “Bro.”
Affable_Pineapple@reddit
My son's best friend used to call me Mrs. Paul's Mom.
Polite_Bark@reddit
We only get to call teachers we're having sex with by their first name. Otherwise, it's Mr or Ms or Mrs.
Winter-Stuff-9126@reddit
Most of the time, it’s Mr. Or Miss or Mrs. followed by their last name. My middle/high school was the very, extremely rare exception.
Sugah-mama21@reddit
Depends where you work. Every school district is different regarding this.
ccoakley@reddit
I had a history teacher who went by Dexter (his first name). He said his last name was his “slave name.”
languagelover17@reddit
I teach Spanish and I go by señora. Everyone else I know goes by Mr or Mrs.
ohfuckthebeesescaped@reddit
In my college we use first names, but that seems to be nonstandard. In my high school we didn't use first names except out of disdain or endearment, but that was still more when referencing them than when actually addressing them.
HippityHopMath@reddit
In high school? Hell no. In undergrad? It can be common in smaller classes or in a class taught by a grad student. In grad school? Very common but not universal.
fadinglightsRfading@reddit
it's funny how as a European all the American teachers I had and knew all said we can refer to them by their first name
charcoal_kestrel@reddit
Yes. The custom at most universities is undergrads say "Professor LAST NAME" but address TAs as "FIRSTNAME." PhD students address professors as "FIRSTNAME." PhD students often have to be reminded this is ok. (I'm not sure how medical students, etc address faculty but my hunch is it's more formal).
I think it's ridiculous and petty to put "Dr" on your airline tickets but I insist on undergrads addressing me as professor. The only people on campus I refer to formally is the president. Everyone else, up to and including the provost is first name. Most faculty have the same attitude though I'm on sabbatical at a smaller (but still top-ranked) university and I have noticed some of my colleagues here refer to the president by his first name. A third university I spend time interacting with sticks to Chancellor LASTNAME but to faculty everyone else is FIRSTNAME, just like my home school.
dowagermeow@reddit
When I taught as a grad student, I always asked the undergrads to just call me by my first name.
Almost every email I got started, ‘Dear Professor Lastname’. I’d reply with my first name, and they were still terrified to refer to me by my first name. 🤣
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
The higher the education level gets, the more likely that casualness becomes.
pugdoglove08@reddit
I have only called two teachers by their first names and their both teachers that are very close with their students will just come to their classroom to just talk about random stuff
TemerariousChallenge@reddit
In K-12 schools I think it’s always Ms/Mrs/Mr. Though in my experience sometimes ppl do refer to teachers by first name but like not in conversation with the teacher, only with other students and kinda sarcastically. I’ve heard in college it varies but I thinkkkk for most ppl it’s Professor/Dr. It was very odd when I went to the UK for uni and everyone was suddenly calling the lecturers by first name
c4ctus@reddit
I had one teacher in high school who insisted we call him by his nickname. All the rest of the teachers I ever had were Mr/Mrs.
iamsiobhan@reddit
Some of my students did it as a joke.
insertcaffeine@reddit
My son went to a high school where the teachers and staff went by their first names. This was touted as a selling point, to show equality and community among the students and staff. (The school was started by hippies in the 70s and really is amazing)
This is extremely out of the ordinary.
LettuceInfamous5030@reddit
It truly varies. I had teachers who preferred dr.last name, professor last name, mrs/ms/mr initial, some went by first names. It depends on school and the teacher.
Keri2816@reddit
The only teacher I ever remember calling “Mrs first name” was my elementary school gym teacher. She was also the pre-school (4 year olds) teacher and she wanted them to call her by her first name, so it just spread to her other classes. I went to a very small elementary school and her daughter was one of my best friends, so it just felt normal. (I grew up calling my close friends’ parents by their first name- either Mr and Mrs or Uncle and Aunt (even if they weren’t related).
DrBlankslate@reddit
It depends on the school and the teacher. When I was a graduate student, my students called me by my first name (because we were still all students together), but once I got my doctorate, I expected them to call me Dr. Blankslate.
gracefulveil@reddit
I haven't been in high school in almost 15 years, and if I ever saw a former teacher of mine it in the wild, I'd still refer to them as Mr./Ms. [last name].
Turdle_Vic@reddit
Mr./Ms./Mrs. [Last Name]
I never called my math teacher, despite being neighbors, Jerry. He was Mr. Lu and still is even a decade after I took his class when I run into him in the neighborhood
lo--@reddit
In grade school, so kindergarten through 12, Mr./Ms. is all you do. I would’ve never dreamed of calling my teachers by first name. In college I referred to most of my professors by first name as they allowed that and I think with us all being actual adults it’s more acceptable? Granted if they said no to first name and wanted last name only that then I would respect that.
admseven@reddit
My son went to a smaller school. Up through sixth grade it was Ms/Mr FirstName. 7th & 8th grade was just the teachers’ first name. High school is Mr/Ms LastName.
CoachOpen1977@reddit
Wait I thought it was “Bruh” now.
BankManager69420@reddit
My school had a tradition where teachers were referred to by their first names, but even we understood that that was incredibly rare and unique to our school.
Mr/Ms/Mrs and last name are the norm, every so often a teacher might go by Mr [first name] or Ms [first letter of last name].
Jswazy@reddit
I think it's the only place people still use Mr and Mrs. I've never even worked at a company where you call the CEO Mr something but in school that's what it always was
myfourmoons@reddit
Never lol
lc367@reddit
i had a teacher who wanted us to call him his first name but i could never do it out of habit so not really
Aquarius_K@reddit
My daughter is in elementary school and both of her teachers so far have used "Mrs. First Name". But the Mrs/Ms is always there. I see both of them outside of school (they have children the same age as my daughter) and while in the presence of my daughter I use the Mrs. If my daughter wasn't present and it was an interaction outside of school I might drop the Mrs. But in general no it's not normal to use only the first name. Till you're an adult teachers are like giants both literally and figuratively.
Now I have one college professor who everyone simply calls Courtney. No Mrs/Ms. Even the other profs introduce her as Courtney. Idk what the deal is but it never felt weird, however she is super nice and a very approachable person.
Personal-Road-8162@reddit
In preschool you call your teacher ms then first name
tmorse85@reddit
The only instructor I ever had who allowed it was a philosophy professor. His first name was Mohamed, and nearly everyone called him Mo.
ConcertinaTerpsichor@reddit
Most teachers go by Ms or Mr or Dr.
Asking students to call you by your first name is a statement about how you feel about being a teacher.
Ill_Industry6452@reddit
I taught. I expected students in k-12 to call me Mrs (or Ms) Last name. When I taught younger college students, the same. But, I often taught off campus for our community college with a large percentage of adults, some older than me. I didn’t care what they called me. I wrote my full name on the blackboard the first night of class and answered to anything said respectfully. Many of my students called me by my first name, and that was fine with me. I have run into a lot of former students outside of school. All are now adults. Most call me by my first name now. I’m ok with that.
Visual-Fig-4763@reddit
It’s not common but some teachers choose to go by their first name, often because their last name is difficult to pronounce. If’s generally considered disrespectful if the teacher hasn’t said it was ok.
DrBoots@reddit
I called all my teachers by their first names. Except for our headmaster who we all called "Boss" or "Jefe."
But I went to a very small, very progressive school so thay kind of familiarity was actively promoted.
finnbee2@reddit
I was a special education teacher. My last name is difficult for some students to say something I went by Mr. I. There were two other teachers with difficult to pronounce last names Mr. R and Mr. K.
QuitTalking81@reddit
Usually pre-school, maybe kindergarten goes by first names, but every teacher I remember was by Ms./Mrs./Mr./Coach. And I still call them by that moniker to this day - I’m 30.
bugga2024@reddit
I had college professors who insisted on going by their first name, but my school teachers up til then, I'd never dare.
trickyfelix@reddit
We did in my high school.
Prometheus_303@reddit
We just called our German teacher "Frau" (German for Mrs)
My mom yelled at me, thought I was using her first name said I should call her Mrs whatever... Had to explain I was (sort of - minus the last name bit)
At university level it might be more common to use first names. We had a husband and wife couple teaching in the same department so they were both Dr. Smith. So we often used first names so we knew which was which. But otherwise I think we still mainly used Dr or whatever.
ShakeWeightMyDick@reddit
I’m not sure how it’s done today, but when I was a student at a Montessori school in the 1970s, we called our teachers by their first names.
Desert_Kat@reddit
At college I referred to the professors in my department by their first name. It was a small program with around 80 undergrads in a university of 25,000.
Aggravating-House620@reddit
Public school: always last name Private school: often first name, but not always
Reddittoxin@reddit
I used to teach, it's extremely rare and kinda frowed upon, and administrators are the ones upholding that. Like, in most of the districts i taught in, we teachers would also get in trouble if we got caught letting students call us by 1st names. Mr/ms, or "coach" (If you were one of the coaches of the sports teams on campus) last name were the only acceptable ways to address teachers.
I remember when I was student teaching one of my classmates had this problem lol. He had volunteered for the school for years prior with the sports teams, so he already knew most of the students in that small school. Bc he wasn't an actual employee of the school, just a volunteer, they didn't care if the kids called him by first name then.
However, once he was hired on as a student teacher, they told him he had to start correcting students and demand to be "Mr. Smith" lol. So he was telling us how he spent a lot of his day going "not my name" and retraining the kids to call him by his last name lol.
Sometimes it's kinda preformative, but I remember my professor saying something that made it make sense. He said those kinds of policies are for the new teachers more than the older ones, bc when we get our licenses and start our careers, we're not that much terribly older than our students. We could be teaching 17-18 year old high school seniors as 23-24 year Olds. We dont visibly look that much different from those kids lol.
So for the sake of classroom control, it's important to establish a sense of authority and distance. We don't gotta be stuffy jerks, but we also gotta be careful about how "close" we get to our students or its easy to lose control of a class. So my professor always advised, especially before were tenured, even if your district doesn't require it of you, dress professionally, and demand a minimum degree of respect from the students (such as being referred to by mr/ms), to firmly differentiate you from the students. Administrators apparently like that in a teacher candidate anyway.
stellablue02762@reddit
I went to a Quaker HS school. All teachers were addressed as "teacher Dot, Teacher Steve, etc, The headmaster was addressed as "Headmaster Alex."
QuentinEichenauer@reddit
In the 80s? Call any teacher over 40 by their first name? DETENTION.
fireflypoet@reddit
I was a community college adjunct at times, part time. I had the students call me by my first name. A portion of them were older, going back to school. It was fine.
ReinReid37@reddit
My high school teachers that I were friends with were offended if I called them by anything other than their first names but I grew up in California and then moved to New York for college and when I told my college friends that they acted like it was the most insane thing they’d ever heard and said they’d be disciplined for calling their teachers by first names so I think it varies state to state. Judging by their reactions to other stories from my middle and high school experience California might just have exceptionally chill teachers.
hellofellowcello@reddit
I had one high school teacher I called by her first name. She was the theater teacher and was pretty young.
I wonder if the long hours rehearsing with teenagers who have stage fright encouraged a more relaxed atmosphere.
304libco@reddit
It’s crazy. I’d actually never heard of the Miss/Mr/1st name thing until I moved to West Virginia and then it was only like after school program leaders or Sunday school teachers and I’ve also never heard of calling a teacher by only the last name without an honorific. I have had college professors that I called by their first name, but not during class
Conscious-Science-60@reddit
So I’m a teacher in California and there are many schools where teachers go by their first name. My observation is that it’s more common at charter and independent schools. Plenty of schools still use last names though, it just depends on the school.
serendipitypug@reddit
I’ve worked in schools where it’s unheard of to use first names (except for paras) and now I work at a school where it’s just up to the individual teacher. I’ve worked with multiple who drop the Mr./Ms. altogether and just use first names. Here is why I like it:
Easier for our queer staff members. They aren’t the only ones who aren’t using traditional teacher names.
Honors personal preference.
It’s ironic that we think it’s disrespectful for kids to call us by our first name on principle but that paraeducators were always called by their first name and that’s fine. Make it make sense.
I use the traditional teacher version because I’m in a two-mommy household where our child uses our first names to distinguish, so hearing my first name all day like that would be death.
304libco@reddit
Mr, Ms, Professor, Dr
Zealousideal_Law8297@reddit
Elementary through high school was always Ms./Mrs./Mr. Last name. College was first name basis.
Square-Lake-9651@reddit
I mean I exclusively called my mom, mom when she was my teacher lol. But nooo for any other teacher I called them by there mr/ms and last name.
AdmiralChancey@reddit
Growing up here, I never heard any one refer to our teacher by their first name, I don’t think most of us even knew their first names. Not sure if that’s changed now but in the 90’s it would have been super disrespectful
Initial_Fill_2655@reddit
Go through any reddit thread about teaching/education in America and you will find answers that vary enormously.- you may be getting answers from a ten year old or a ninety year old. In some schools a principal may set the tone- in others there is a head-master.
The1930s@reddit
In my montessorian school they did first names in 7th grade. My math teacher was Angie my history teacher was Doug and English was david
Weekly_Barnacle_485@reddit
I still call my old teachers (that are still alive) by their last names, and I’m 63 years old.
AtheneSchmidt@reddit
In school, it was considered disrespectful to use our teacher's first names. Iand even if the teacher was ok with it, I know my county had a policy against letting students use first names.
In college there wasn't a rule like that. We still use honorifics for most of the teachers, but occasionally there was a professor who started the year out by telling us to use their given name.
Teachers outside of formal schooling, like a class at a recreational center, or a tutor tend to just go by their first names, depending on their age and the ages of most of their students. For example a swimming teacher instructing small children might be called "Miss Katie," by her students, and "Katie" when teaching teenagers or adults. A dance instructor teaching exclusively adults will probably just go by their first name.
AdGold205@reddit
The only exception I can think of is maybe coachs. Like Coach Mike. But even then, I don’t think it’s very common.
idling-in-gray@reddit
In college there was one professor who went by her first name and lne professor who let you call him by his first name if you were close enough and everyone else went by professor last name. I've never had an elementary, middle, or highschool teacher that went by first name or even Mr/Ms firstname. Sometimes if there was a helper they might go by their first name
DrFaustPython@reddit
I had a few professors in college that wouldn't mind being called by their first names. Their logic was that "we're all adults here, let's act like it." But anything prior to that, you never call a teacher by their first name.
stubbornkelly@reddit
Sometimes. In many areas it’s traditional for all children and teenagers to call any adult by their title plus last name.
However, when I was in early elementary school, we called adults my their first names as a matter of course, even in school. And this was in Virginia, which is pretty traditional in most parts, especially over 40 years ago, so that practice was unusual. In college it was typically “Professor/Mr/Ms So and So” until I went to a college founded by Quakers and run according to Quaker principles, one of which is equality. So, in practice that meant we all used first names with each other.
HitPointGamer@reddit
One of my favorite elementary school teachers was Mrs. Curtis and we are still friends online. I’m nearly 50 and she is still Mrs. Curtis. I know her first name but would never feel comfortable caller ing her by it, even if she asked. As far as I’m concerned, her first name is Mrs.
Dapper-Presence4975@reddit
We called teachers by their first name in pre-school and Kindergarten. I actually remember that being a “new rule” when entering 1st grade. I’ve heard of Montessori-type private schools that allow first names.
dobbydisneyfan@reddit
The only time I ever called a teacher by their first name is when my mom was best friends with my teacher. I already knew her by her first name long before she was my teacher. I did call her Mrs. [Last Name] whenever we were in school though.
College is different. You might get more first names spoken around there, especially if you’re in graduate school
pndfam05@reddit
I think I was in middle school when I found out teachers had first names.
nikkinj@reddit
They do not
flannely@reddit
Once a teacher always a teacher. I’ve had professors and teachers that I’d stayed in contact with. They insist that I can use their first name. I would never feel comfortable doing that. Even if they were my elementary school teacher I’d still use Mr. Or Mrs.
Ahlq802@reddit
Yeah there was a really cool art teacher growing up who we all called by his first name! He’s wasn’t at all like the lame other teachers.
He’s on a list now and isn’t allowed near kids.
Honest_Lunch4637@reddit
Never ever called a teacher by their first name. One exception might be in daycare where someone might be called Ms. Sue or something like that but never without the Ms.
Bent_Kairosphere@reddit
If you know a professor well and they’ve said they’re fine with it, yes.
High school and below it’s a big no. At least in my experience. If anything you’ll call a teacher just by there last name and cut the Mr./Mrs. as an informal
jedooderotomy@reddit
To clarify, "professor" means a teacher at college/university. Where everyone is an adult, including the students.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
So it really has to be invited by the professor first, not something students would casually start on their own.
junkmail0178@reddit
I’m a teacher and many students will call me just by my last name by the end of the school year. I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all. I think I make them feel comfortable and welcoming enough that they just start doing that. I take it as a sign of respectful affection.
sluttypidge@reddit
Typically it depends on how they introduce themselves for the first class and what they tell you to call them.
Prior-Soil@reddit
Yes. Exactly this. But if the teacher fails to say anything, the student will probably call them professor last name or doctor last name. Or just professor.
In my old job I interacted with a lot of faculty. I was coached to refer to all of them as Professor initially because anyone can get a doctorate, but it's much harder to become a professor at a top university.
Even when you become an adult, you will still refer to your teachers as Mr. And Mrs. when you talk about them.
ParticularYak4401@reddit
In a lot of daycare/preschool classes the kids call their teachers miss. First name. By elementary school you are calling your teacher by their prefix and last name. Heck I even called my Sunday school teachers until middle school Mr/mrs. T
FionaOlwen@reddit
I called all my teachers by first name, but I went to smaller weird schools…
Little_Duck90@reddit
So, it depends on the age. Most of the time, daycare teachers get called Mr./Ms. First Name, since the children are small and often, last names are more difficult to pronounce. However, once they reach elementary school or higher, it's always Mr./Ms. Last Name.
To call a teacher by their first name is often considered extremely rude, because, as an adult, they should be addressed with respect.
Oomlotte99@reddit
Mostly Mr/Ms and Dr/Professor unless they ask for something else.
Dizzy_Lengthiness_92@reddit
The town next to where I went to school the high school students called teachers by their first name and that’s the only school I’ve ever heard that bring a thing
CultofEight27@reddit
I went to an alternative high school where we called teachers by first names, but most schools it’s Mr/Ms or for principals sometimes Dr.
HermioneMarch@reddit
Little kids might say miss first name, but not without the honorific.
I’m sure super progressive schools exist where teachers go by first name, but it is not the norm.
leavesandgrassart@reddit
Normally I’d always refer to my teacher as Mr./Ms. Or “Professor” when I was in college. That said, I had lots of teachers that would tell us on the first day that we can call them by their first name and then from then on I’d call them that.
bull0143@reddit
It depends on what the teacher prefers. I had some teachers that went by their first names in K-12 and college/university, and some that did not.
Intermountain-Gal@reddit
K-12 students address teachers with Ms./Mr. In college it depends on the teacher. Some prefer first name use, some prefer title use, and others prefer the Mr./Ms.
Ok_Reaction7603@reddit
Really depends on your school, when I was in elementary school we called teachers by their first names.
colthie@reddit
At my private progressive school we use first names. But that’s unusual.
Pitiful_Lion7082@reddit
In K-12, definitely Mr./Ms./Mrs., colleges vary by the professor's preference.
ParticularBuyer6157@reddit
It’s very uncommon to call a teacher by their first name
Professional-Pungo@reddit
It’s pretty much based up to the teacher.
Some are chill about it and some aren’t
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Interesting, so it sounds like there is a rule but also some teacher-by-teacher flexibility.
itmightbehere@reddit
I've been out of school for 10+ years so things may have changed, but general rule for very young children is Miss/Mrs/Mr First name, then as they get older they're taught to "be respectful" by using their last name instead of first along with the title, and you'll keep using that for almost all teachers through graduating highschool (at 18).
Some teachers are much less formal and allow first names - these teachers are either the best or worst you'll have, in my experience. (Best treat you like PEOPLE, which is why they allow first names. Worst don't have boundaries. )
In college, it's best to ask. You're learning from so many kinds of instructors that they'll all have different titles and expectations. I had some who preferred Professor, some Doctor, some Miss/Mr/Mrs, some first name.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That progression by age is really interesting. So it is not random casualness, it is more like schools slowly decide how much formality to keep as students grow.
whuaminow@reddit
As you level up academically you become closer and closer to being a peer, rather than an underling. At some point if you achieve a doctorate degree, when you see one of your old professors it can be awkward not to call them Dr. Lastname, because to you that's what their name is! I had a peer at my University that went on elsewhere to get his PhD, but came back to a professorship at our original school. He told me how difficult it was to call people he had as professors by their first names for several months. Occasional slip ups happend for a year or more.
itmightbehere@reddit
Yes, in my experience at least. As you get older and more capable of handling adult responsibilities, they tend towards more informality.
Practical-Ordinary-6@reddit
All my teachers (after kindergarten) were always called by Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss and last name. And I can't even imagine someone in junior high school (13-15) calling a teacher by their first name. I can sort of imagine it possibly in high school with the right teacher but I never had one like that.
That doesn't mean students didn't sometimes call their teachers by their first names behind their backs. But that's a completely different thing.
actualhumannotspider@reddit
It changed by education level for me. No first names in elementary school, one in high school, maybe half in college, and most in grad school.
I don't ever remember seeing an explicit rule.
CJgreencheetah@reddit
Yeah this was very similar to my experience. In college, it seems like the professors with doctorates prefer "Dr.Lastname" whereas the ones without prefer to be called their first name. I can't speak to grad school though.
Traditional-Cook-677@reddit
Over my — excuse me — over the Juniors’ dead bodies.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Ohh so it gradually becomes more normal as the education level goes up, that is interesting because I was trying to understand at what point that shift usually happens.
FoggyGoodwin@reddit
The older the student, the greater the possibility that the student uses the teacher's first name. Sometimes a young professor is "cool" and uses their first name, but I honestly don't recall first names being common even in grad school. Maybe it depends on the program, school, region, or year (has it gotten more common?)
OK_Stop_Already@reddit
even if they were chill with it i would feel so uncomfortable calling a teacher by their first name if i was a student. that's a level of familiarity i don't want with a teacher.
GiraffesCantSwim@reddit
My daughter has trouble calling my grandkid's teachers by their name. It's so funny to me. Last year the teacher even said 'you know you can call me Firstname, right?' and Daughter came home said "No, I can't!" 😂
OK_Stop_Already@reddit
exactly! I think it crosses too many boundaries
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
Why would you feel uncomfortable calling a person what they want to be called? That’s a weird take.
OK_Stop_Already@reddit
Is it a weird take? I like how you remove all context from the situation. Like an adult authority figure asking for more familiarity from a child they are not related to is weird, to me.
This is not the same as misgendering someone or calling someone by a name that is not theirs.
Raddatatta@reddit
It's not always up to the teacher there can be rule from the school about that.
CJgreencheetah@reddit
Yeah I remember my class getting in trouble because we called our teacher Conrad instead of Mrs. Conrad. We didn't even use her first name we just dropped the title because she didn't like being called that. She just told us to use the Mrs anytime the principal was in earshot.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Never seen a teacher called by their first name..
nomuggle@reddit
You want to call me immature, but you are the one who keeps replying to me then deleting your comments. Sorry you got upset about getting called out I guess.
nomuggle@reddit
There are definitely more progressive private schools where students call teachers by their first names. I used to work at one.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
As did I and they didn't do that. I am going by my experiences
nomuggle@reddit
Oh sorry, I didn’t realize you were the only person on Reddit allowed to share your experience.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Idk why you being rude. I just am going from my experiences..fyi I work in education with a teacher went to a teacher college and been in education for decades..
nomuggle@reddit
I was just matching your energy.
FYI, I AM a teacher who went to “teacher college” and have been in education for decades.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
I was not rude to you but you certainly are..
nomuggle@reddit
Twice.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Go away
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
I don't want to engage with anyone who is rude..
nomuggle@reddit
Yet you still replied.
Zealousideal_Cod5214@reddit
In my elementary school, we called most of them by their first name. Only exception I can remember is the gym teacher.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Interesting never heard of that in an elementary school.
Zealousideal_Cod5214@reddit
I don't think it's super common. I went to a Montessori elementary school, but idk if that has anything to do with it or if it was specifically that school.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Ah ok.
krittyyyyy@reddit
Our gym teacher went by her first name, but with miss as a prefix. Like Miss Amanda (that wasn’t her name), and all our recess monitors, same thing but they weren’t teachers really. Mister Jake or whatever. And I guess that’s also how I referred to my dance teachers but kid ballet isn’t school, another type of teacher though.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Interesting we go by last names.
Super_Direction498@reddit
In my public highschool there were a few teachers that went by their first names. This was late 90s.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
I went to a public school in the late 90s and never heard of that.
Wild-Sky-4807@reddit
I wasn't even sure that my teachers HAD first names lol.
stringstringing@reddit
Through my whole 12 grades of public schooling I’d say about half the teachers went by their first name.
HFrog2k@reddit
I’m guessing that was how they chose to introduce themselves and it was always preceded with Mr/Ms/Mrs?
That’s how it was for me too. Seemed to swing more towards last names as I got older and eventually in college it was Professor or Dr LastName.
stringstringing@reddit
Nope, not preceded by Mr or Mrs just literally first name. I grew up in seattle in the 90s and it was very non traditions and granola. As I got older I’d say less teachers went by first names but in elementary school it was almost all of them.
OK_Stop_Already@reddit
that's crazy to me
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Say what? Never heard of that.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
So movies definitely made it look more casual than it really is then.
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
What shows or movies have you seen this in?
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Mostly in American teen shows and college movies, the student-teacher conversations sometimes look much more casual there, so I was curious how real that actually is.
WhatABeautifulMess@reddit
Any specific examples? I haven’t been the target demographic for teen shows in a few decades but I can’t think of any I’ve seen where this happens.
I guess there’s Pacy and the teacher but that’s portrayed as an obvious inappropriate relationship. When Rory Gilmore’s mom starts dating a teacher it’s a whole thing about how she still doesn’t feel comfortable calling him Max.
Ok-Office6837@reddit
I agree
At my high school, we called a lot of teachers by just their last name or a nickname involving their last name, dropping the Ms/Mr. I can’t think of anyone we actually called by their first name unless it was in a jokey way.
At my college we kinda did the same. There were only a few teachers we used “Dr” for, and also a few teachers who wanted to be called by their first name.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Interesting, so it really is much rarer in normal school life than the media makes it seem.
msabeln@reddit
I work at a public school. The naming convention is somewhat complicated:
I refer to everyone by their first name unless students are around.
Enough-Secretary-996@reddit
The only time I ever did call a teacher by their first name was my elementary school computer teacher (by her preference, understandable since I imagine little kids would have trouble pronouncing her last name) and one of my high school English teachers (and that was only because she was my cousin and I had already known her by her first name my whole life).
amphibious_mustard@reddit
It’s the standard at Montessori schools (although these tend to be largely private schools)
Amarastargazer@reddit
I substituted at my high school starting at 19 because of my state’s requirements and classes. I always called my teacher Mr/Ms/Mrs despite pretty much all of them saying, “You know you can use my first name now?” Even with teachers I was closer with and started to develop more a friendship relationship with, it was really hard. That is how engrained it is in me.
In school? ALWAYS. But there are other types of schools where first name is the standard for kids to use. My basis is public high school.
DecoyOocctopus@reddit
I've worked in Illinois and Missouri as an assistant. I'm from IL and it's last name only, none of the adults know each other's first names either.
In Missouri I'm Mr. First or last name. I'll intro myself as last name, which is the default to me. The other assistants go by the first name and they mess it up my calling me first name. So the students call me both, so I'm like "whatever".
Lippmansdl@reddit
It depends. In public schools, almost no one calls teachers by their first name.
It is entirely different at a lot of private schools. I transferred to a North East Quaker high school from Kentucky (which is a very conservative state.) At the private Quaker school we called the teachers by their first names where we would never have done that in Kentucky. In Ky and
the south, close family friends and neighbors are sometimes affectionately called by their first name but a Miss or Mister is in front of it. I am
Miss Susan to the children and grandchildren of my friends.
Some_Cicada_8773@reddit
Some I used their first name, some just last name, and some wanted to keep it formal. Just depends on the school and individual teacher
Kdub1971@reddit
I had one teacher, in high school, who asked us to call him Corkie. I can't even remember what his full name was. He was quite the character and taught environmental science and horticulture. I loved those 2 classes!
ReturnMetoEarth@reddit
This truly depends. It's not standard to refer to a teacher as their first name it's usually Mr./Ms. Then their last name. However, I've had teachers with unfortunate last names that were replaced with Mr./Ms. And then their first name.
Had a teacher with the last name "Bates" who was a Karate instructor that we had to call "Master"... we called him by his first name.
Movies usually get it wrong though. While kids in highschool do form bonds with teachers they like, it's usually still a boundary with the Mr./Ms. formality. Even in colleges, a lot of the time, had nursing instructors that were divided. Some said "You're adults and you're about to be my colleagues in the hospital when you graduate, call me by my first name" and others who if you dared call them by anything else other then Ms./Mr. They'd report you for professional misconduct. So there are situations where it's tricky.
But yes, typically it's Mr./Ms. Last name. Short of these instances, I almost never knew most of my teacher's first names unless I spent a lot of time with them, it was really unique or they made it a point to tell us.
Frenchitwist@reddit
Calling teachers by their first names happens in like .001% of schools. Like my K-8 school. Only time I ever called my teachers by their first name.
Western_Nebula9624@reddit
Ms/Mrs./Mr. first name happens sometimes, usually at preschools (I think maybe because first names are frequently easier to pronounce?). There's a teacher's aide at the school that I work at that has chosen to be called Ms Firstname because the teacher in one of the rooms she works in has the same last name (married to brothers, actually) and it's way too confusing.
One of my college teachers (and I say teacher because she was very insistent that she was not a professor) asked is to call her by her first name. That's the only time I've run into just a first name, though.
SailorKronos@reddit
Where I am (Northeast) a lot of schools in more liberal areas do first names with teachers
squidtheinky@reddit
Only in college with permission from the professors. Some of my professors preferred to be called by their first names and they would let the class know on the first day.
All the teachers I had in elementary through highschool would have considered it very disrespectful to call them by their first name.
Infinite-Penalty-495@reddit
For kindergarten, it's Techaer Firstname, but grade school it becomes Ms./Mrs./Mr. Lastname
txlady100@reddit
Depends on how hippy dippy the school is. But generally it’s Ms. and Mr.
DemonaDrache@reddit
I'm older but have continued education well into adulthood. I've never addressed a teacher by their first name. As an adult, i always called my professors Dr. even when they were younger than me. It's a form of respect. They earned it.
Particular-Move-3860@reddit
I was in a class in high school in which the teacher was the older sister of one of my classmates. She was unmarried, so they continued to share the same last name. (This was back in the late 1960s.) He always addressed her in the traditional way, as "Miss ___." He also always sat in the center desk in the front row, where she could keep an eye on him and where he would occasionally make funny faces at her. Despite the close relationship though, their usual interaction was standard teacher - student.
Phoenix_Court@reddit
Standard practice in preschools and pre-K. Not standard after that. However, best practice is to call them what they tell you they want to be called. K-12 is usually Mr./Mrs. LastName and College is usually Professor LastName. But if they tell you something else (my best friend goes by Ms. FirstInitial) then call them that.
Substantial-Train-39@reddit
I don’t know how common it is but we called a few teachers by their first names. I was in high school during the 70s.
SAMixedUp311@reddit
When I taught I was preferred to be called by my first name. At my favorite school, most of my teachers wanted to be called by their first names. I think teachers should have a choice and kids should respect whichever they want. But not all teachers want to be called "Mrs./Mr." and I think that's okay!
quietly_annoying@reddit
My kids had a elementary p.e. teacher who the students called by a nickname instead of his complicated "mouthful" of a surname... like "Wiz" instead of "Mr. Wojnarowicz," but he's been the exception, not the rule.
TheMarshmallowFairy@reddit
It really depends on the setting.
In early childhood education up to about kindergarten (5-6 years old), Mr./Ms. First Name is the most common. Ms. Amy, Ms. Becky, Mr. Joe, etc.
In elementary school through high school graduation, Mr./Ms./Mrs. Last Name is the standard. Although I will say that most kids don’t actually SAY “Mrs.” or “Ms.” They’ll say “miss” for both Ms. and Mrs. lol
In college/university, it’s a lot more common to have instructors prefer to be called by their first name, especially in grad school. Professors who hold doctorates are more likely to be addressed by Dr. Last Name, but even then it really can go either way. Pretty much every professor I had who did not have a doctorate asked to be called by their first name, no honorific.
Range-Shoddy@reddit
I’m a parent and I call my kids teachers Mr and Mrs. Their coaches are called coach. Professors are dr. I can’t imagine anything else and I’m pretty casual about things.
MardawgNC@reddit
Gen X here. I don't think anyone called teachers by their first name when I was coming up. In fact, even KNOWING their first name seems rare in my memory. It was always Mister or Missus whatever and using their first name would be rude and disrespectful. At least in my experience, but I'd assume experiences vary.
wkuace@reddit
I work at the same university i went to and I still call my professors there Dr. I graduated like 15 years ago.
jade7slytherin@reddit
No, not in my experience.
What I thought was kinda weird when I became a parent of school-aged kids is that parents are ALSO expected to call teachers Mr./Ms. So and So.
turnerevelyn@reddit
Montessori school for my grandchildren pre-k through 8th used first names.
Smolmanth@reddit
As a teacher I have had to write up several disciplinary reports for kids using my first name. There is no situation in education (excluding post-secondary) where it acceptable to call a teacher by their first name. This is instilled in students from the beginning of primary school.
The US is vast and diverse, therefore few honorifics (such as those in Japan for those who are elder) are standard practice everywhere, except when it comes to education. Preschooler and some places in the south might use mr./ms. First name, but I have not heard of it being practiced elsewhere.
Movies and TV shows do things that make them interesting to watch. Having a “cool” teacher who says “just call me Brad” is not realistic, but probably serves a purpose for a show’s plot.
LineRex@reddit
In middle school every teacher was Mx, in high school 50% of teachers were first name, in university almost every single instructor/professor was first name.
peoriagrace@reddit
My daughter went to an alternative High School, where everyone was called by their first name.
Positive-Avocado-881@reddit
I just so happened to go to one of the only high schools in the country that the policy was to call teachers by their first names 😂 that included everyone, even the principal.
prntmakr@reddit
We addressed some of our art professors by their first names but it was at the college level and at their insistence.
nik_el@reddit
I don’t even know what any of my teacher’s first names were. It’s always “Sister Mary” or “Sister Anne”. I think if any of us had called them anything else we’d have gotten the ruler on our knuckles.
Br0_Hammer@reddit
This depends on the schools. Last names is more of a public school thing. I went to 3 private schools and all used first names. The one public school and public university used last names.
purplishfluffyclouds@reddit
It's not uncommon to combine with with Mr./Miss/Ms. [first name], but pretty rare just first name only. I personally go by Miss [first name]. All that said, I know of a PE teacher (in elementary school) who goes by her first name only. I would not say that is the norm, and probably PE teachers fall under a slightly different category.
0utlaw-t0rn@reddit
Public schools universally use last names and Mr/Ms/Mrs.
Private schools have more variety. Progressive private schools often use first names.
Remote_Pick_1952@reddit
I'm 68 and I don't think I've ever called a teacher by their first name. Even my college professors were addressed by a title and their last name.
cats-n-cafe@reddit
I married the son of one of my college professors and 20 years later, I still have a hard time not calling him Professor …..
SalishSeaSweetie@reddit
In preschool, with special needs kids, I went by Miss (first name). In elementary school, it was Ms. (last name).
macrocosm93@reddit
If I saw a student call a teacher by their first name, my first thought would be that they were in an inappropriate relationship.
Some teachers tell students to call them by their first name if they want to be seen as "cool" or "chill", but that's very much not the norm. Mostly like art teachers or drama teachers, etc. But in this case it would apply to the whole class, not an individual student.
cats-n-cafe@reddit
I never called teachers or college professors by their first name. I also never refer to my child’s teachers by their first name. I’m not personally familiar with any of them and it’s a sign of respect for their position of being a teacher.
When I was a young child, I remember being in elementary school and literally thinking my teachers actual name was ms/miss/Mrs/mr teacher….like the prefix was their first name.
WoodwifeGreen@reddit
I feel like this was more common, but still not that common, in the 60's and 70's.
I had an elementary school teacher who had us call him by his first name, I think he was a student teacher.
Also much more common in college.
rjbonita79@reddit
As a retired teacher I let my kids call me what made them comfortable and still expressed the value and respect they should have for me. I did the same for them. When we clashed we discussed it like people in a relationship. That's what good teachers are. Kids respect, like and depend on you if you care about them. I think MayMay which is the beginning of my last name repeated said with such affection and appreciation for the recognition as them as people and the willingness to say things or do things differently so they could comprehend was my favorite.
PamCake137@reddit
I'm a retired ESL teacher and most of my students simply called me "Miss". As the majority of my students came from Spanish speaking countries, I found that this is cultural and considered a sign of respect. I loved it!
GrowlingAtTheWorld@reddit
The teacher will tell you what they want to be called. In jr high one teacher just wanted to be called Mr his first initial of last name cause he said using his last name made him look around for his father. In college most of the fine art teachers preferred to be called their first name so it was Jim, Steve, Duncan, Anita, Ann, and Perry.
RepliesOnlyToIdiots@reddit
At my kid’s school (4th through 9th grade), all the kids refer to the teachers by first name, with a Mr. or Ms. to distinguish where ambiguous. We like it a lot.
non-rhotic_eotic@reddit
A student using a teacher's first name would be seen as inappropriate by most people. It's excessively friendly and too intimate for teacher/student interactions.
cookerg@reddit
College or University professors might sometimes go by the first name, especially with more senior students or graduate students, because the students are adults. Up to grade12/senior year of high school they wouldn't (or shouldn't). Mind you, in my high school a very popular teacher was Gordie McLachlan (not his real name) and in the class we all called him Mr McLachlan or sometimes Mr M, but outside the class the entire student body and probably a lot of staff fondly referred to him as Gordie.
Universally-Tired@reddit
Small children might use their teachers first name with the Mr./Ms. First. Ms. Shelly.
Mike_in_San_Pedro@reddit
Almost exclusively Mr. Ms. and when the person prefers it, Mrs.
I will say, while I understand that you are probably referring to academic settings, I work in Special Education and the convention there (at where I am at), is to use both the first name and the honorific. Mr. Mike, Mrs. Nathalie, Mr. Tim are quite common, especially when a last name can be difficult for some students to pronounce. In some cases where the first name is hard, the student may be encouraged just to use the first initial, such as Mrs. K.
East_Vivian@reddit
My daughter had one young teacher in middle school that went by Teacher [first name], but that’s the only teacher I personally know who has done something different than the standard Mr/Mrs/Ms/Mx + [last name].
Adorable_Dust3799@reddit
I had a couple teachers that went by first n a names, one that was mr ken, and the rest were mr smith or whatever.
FireHammer09@reddit
It's been Mr/Ms/Mrs "X" my entire life unless you're in municipal academy like a fire department or police department then it's Captain "X".
joreanasarous@reddit
I did in elementary school and in college.
InviteForsaken2857@reddit
The trend I've seen in middle school at least is they just say "Miss". No first or last name. Not sure if they extend that to Mr or Mrs. And if a teacher is a coach, even if they are teaching a non-athletics class, they are still referred to as Coach. With it without the last name.
Cold-Channel-5341@reddit
I have never in all my years of schooling heard a teacher called by their first name by a student. However I have heard them use their last name just without the Mrs/Mr at the beginning if it’s a casual interaction or with a coach in high school
mistypatch@reddit
My daughter calls her teachers by her last name and they do the same for her.
DeFiClark@reddit
In Friends (Quaker) schools it’s traditional to call teachers “Teacher (first name” like Teacher Jane or Teacher Bob. Some progressive private schools use first names. In elementary school and high school using Mr/Mrs/Ms and last name is customary.
In graduate school almost all of my professors would ask to be called by their first name, and some of my undergrad professors as well, but polite address unless asked would be “Professor Smith” etc
rawbface@reddit
No, it's rude and disrespectful.
Using titles and last names also helps keep the relationship professional and appropriate with students.
orcas-@reddit
Only teachers i called by first name were nuns so it was Sister XYZ. But even as a 40 yo when I communicate to former teachers theyre still Ms. ABC, and as PTA president I still only call my kids teachers Ms. Mr. Dr. Etc
Maiace124@reddit
I've never called a lower level teacher by their first name with the exception of Ms. Jessica and she still had the Ms. (Lower level being through high school). Some college professors are okay with it because they see us and treat us as future colleagues. I'd say maybe 1/3 of my college professors are like that.
ButterscotchOdd8257@reddit
It is very rare for students to call teachers or professors by first names.
Here's a funny video of students breaking that rule and showing the teachers' reactions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nNTrU_DJEQ
anneofgraygardens@reddit
Yes! I went to a public elementary school in San Francisco where we called everyone, from the lunch ladies to the principal, by their first names. I remember reading books where people used the terms "Mr" and "Mrs" and being unsure of how to pronounce them because I had never heard them. (Obviously I knew what Mister was, because I'd seem Mister Rodgers, but I was unclear on "Mr". I think I thought it was pronounced "mur".)
When I was still a kid, my family moved to the suburbs and I changed schools. We had to address teachers with honorifics and I found it so weird. it seemed very old-fashioned to me as a child.
Jdawn82@reddit
In primary and secondary, it’s pretty much always last name. At university level, it depends on the professor. Many are casual, but there are also just as many who subscribe to “I earned the Dr. title, you will refer to me that way.” I went to a small college. Most of the professors I personally had went by first name with the exception of my Piano Proficiency professor, all of the science professors, a few of the Bible professors (though I called my mom’s cousin by his first name anyway and he hated it), and a couple of professors who taught my parents 30 years prior.
Charlesinrichmond@reddit
first name would be very rare
SherLovesCats@reddit
When I was a university lecturer, we taught smaller classes. In these classes, students worked together on small discussion points, activities, and peer review. I allowed my students to use my first name.
tarheel_204@reddit
You’re expected to call them Mr, Mrs, Ms, etc. It was always disrespectful to call them by their first name
I graduated HS well over 10 years ago and even though some of my old teachers have told me to call them by their first name now, it still feels weird and I still call them Mr or Mrs 😂
wismke83@reddit
I went to a small school is a small rural town. Until high school, we would never address a teacher other than Mr/Mrs/Ms. In high school there were some teachers that didn’t mind being called a nickname, which was usually a different version of their last name, but it was their choice as a teacher and it was usually used by students who had the teacher as a coach outside the classroom. Example I was a runner in cross county and track and other runners called our chemistry/physics teacher, who was our coach by a nickname (Jake, which was short for his last name of Jacob’s). Other students of his who weren’t on the team generally would address him as Mr. Its also was more commonplace for a junior or senior to use the nickname for a teacher than a freshman or sophomore, again small high school so you know get to know all the teachers and by your senior year you’ve had them for a lot of classes.
calcato@reddit
I'd say it really depends on the students. My late husband was and elementary Special Education teacher so he had his students call him Mr. [Firstname]. One syllable is easier to say than three syllables; gotta set the kids up to be successful.
Forward_Tank8310@reddit
I didn’t even know the first names of most of my teachers
macoafi@reddit
Sometimes in college. I had a lecturer who was not a full professor, but his parents were, so he refused to be called a title he had not earned and insisted on being called by first name instead.
TokyoDrifblim@reddit
K-12 definitely not. College, maybe, A lot of professors will start the semester by telling you to address them by their first name if they would like that, and if they don't say anything you should default to addressing them as professor or doctor Lastname. In grad school, every single one of my professors and advisors asked to be addressed by first name so I did.
WhompTrucker@reddit
Sometimes happens in college/university but rare in secondary education.
gutclutterminor@reddit
In high school, never, unless intentionally disrespectful. In college, certainly possible, ans age difference can be pretty close at times.
TallWalmartCovington@reddit
Closest we get is Mr Bob or Ms Betty or whatever. If I walked into most classrooms in my school and was like "Hey, Brian!" I'd likely not get a good reaction. Our teacher got onto a girl for just calling her by her last name with no Ms in front.
TehLoneWanderer101@reddit
All my professors had the same first name: Doctor.
I'm a community college instructor with a Master's but I try to keep the student-teacher boundary so I don't like to be called by my first name by my students.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
I’m a professor and I definitely want to be called by my first name, as have most of my professors.
Alternative-Law4626@reddit
We called all our college professors and law school professors, “Professor ______” regardless of level of escalation. I had an Organizational Theory and Org Behavior teacher in college who had her masters but was still pursuing her PhD, still professor. Not sure of the niceties of the distinction but almost all my law school professors had a Juris Doctor, not an LLM or an SJD. They were all called Professors.
cjbanning@reddit
I'm wondering if you actually meant "escalation"?
In part especially because there are two levels of hierarchy at work here. One is the level of education: some instructors will have a doctorate, some will have a terminal degree that is not a doctorate (e.g. an MFA), and (especially at less prestigious institutions) some may have a non-terminal degree. The other is the academic position: some instructors have a title other than professor, and while U.S. universities tend to not be as strict about policing such distinctions in speech as some foreign institutions, there are still scenarios where the difference between a professor and an instructor or lecturer is taken seriously, especially since non-professor titles are almost always non-tenure-track positions (although there are also professor titles, like visiting professor, that are also not tenure-track positions).
Alternative-Law4626@reddit
Never heard of any of that at US institutions (though I only had my 7 years of experience with it an don’t claim to be any kind of expert on the ins and outs of the ivory tower).
I’ve only heard of lecturer in relation to titles for European university instructors. I’ve never heard of “instructor” as a title. That’s my experience.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
I am seeing that even in more relaxed settings, many teachers still prefer that professional boundary.
sunfish99@reddit
I've found that it depends on a couple of things. Young professors may keep the title + last name because they need to reinforce with undergrads that they aren't on the same level. Women of any age may stick with the title + last name because there can be a lack of respect granted to women otherwise, particularly by male undergrads.
In grad school, instructor's personal preference and institutional culture come into play. At my grad school in the Northeast, first names were common. In some colleges and universities in the South, you had better use the title.
elena_ct@reddit
Imagine the odds of that! You must have taken so many professors of both genders, and they all had that same first name lol :)
LoveYerBrain2@reddit
My kids are 14 and 11. The first few years of elementary school were in Massachusetts and now we are in New Mexico. It's been the same in both places, so I don't think it's just a regional thing. Somewhere between a third and a half of their teachers have gone by Miss/Mr (i.e. Miss Megan, Mr Joey, etc).
TTHS_Ed@reddit
At my high school, most teachers have chosen to be addressed as Ms/Mr FirstName. I'm older than most of the rest of the staff, and I and a few others go by our last name. Students are not permitted to call staff by their first names without the Ms/Mr.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
I’m a professor and I ask all my students to call me by my first name. I hate honorifics.
volcanosnowman@reddit
Some schools are. I went to school New York City and I knew a few schools were a lot of teachers went by their first name, including mine in high school.
RedSolez@reddit
K-12 public schools tend to be Mr./Mrs. In college, all of my adjunct professors had me call them by their first name and the faculty professors had me call them by their title. In classes I've interpreted for at other colleges it's been a mixed bag.
I work in a school now as a sign language interpreter and have the students call me Ms. First name because in the Deaf community no one goes by Mr/Mrs, you always go by your sign name which is unique to you, so it feels too strangely formal to have the hearing kids refer to me by my last name.
boopbaboop@reddit
Even in schools where they use first names, it’s still Title+Name. Like Ms. Rachel.
WorldWearyWanderer23@reddit
The ONLY time I ever called my teachers by their first name was when I went to trade school and they insisted on it. No Mr. or Mrs., it was Scott, John, Barbara (only had the one female instructor) but the other women from the front office and administration even insisted on being called by name.
OkayDay21@reddit
I went to a Friends school and we called our teachers by their first name. It’s not common outside of that specific setting though.
TJH99x@reddit
Maybe in preschool, ex. “Miss Jessica” because last names can be hard for 3yo.
TessOfLesJoueurs@reddit
It is rare, but does happen. Summer h as Coach Mike or Prof Jane. Not the norm at all.
Einaiden@reddit
My child goes to a Montessori school where it is emphasized that they are all friends, so yes everyone goes by first name.
dehydratedrain@reddit
Standard in schools is always last name. You might find Mr./ Miss (firstname) in a more casual setting like Sunday School/ church, scouts, daycare.
I had a church friend (Miss Cindy to the kids) who was also a school worker, and told me that she had to correct the poor confused little girl who hugged her and said "Hi, Miss Cindy" in front of a bunch of very shocked kids and staff.
Ask_Aspie_@reddit
Preschool, special ed, and kindergarten students can usually call teachers by their first names. But like as Mr. John or Mrs. Mary.
Some professors in college will let you call them by their first names, without the Mr. or Mrs., but that isn't really common.
Everyone else calls their teachers Mr. Last Name, Mrs. Last name, Dr. Last Name and so forth.
the-magician-misphet@reddit
If you were close with a teacher you might call them by their first name as a joke. Our music teacher in high school had the first name Elon (before that tech billionaire ruined it) so he used to get called E-Money as a term of endearment- we also were a majority black school.
diaznuts@reddit
As far as K-12 (primary school) goes, it’s extremely uncommon for students to call teachers by their first names. However, once in college/university it becomes less uncommon, though most refer to their professors by calling them “Doctor/Professor Smith,” as an example.
No_Satisfaction_7431@reddit
No its usually rude to call a teacher by their first name. However some teachers don't like being called by their last name or in elementary school they feel it may seem too formal/not approachable by kids so some teachers go by Ms./Mrs./Mr. First name but rarely just by their first name.
GrimSpirit42@reddit
Teachers are ALWAYS Mr. or Mrs.
My wife is a Nursing Instructor. All her students call her 'Mrs. Spirit'.
She, in turn, calls every single one of those students 'Mrs. Smith' or 'Mr. Jones'. No exception.
But, the first time she sees them AFTER they've graduated and passed their NCLEX to become licensed nurses....she will great them with their first name. And she asks that they call her by her first name.
Why? Because they are now peers.
Thyrach@reddit
Some of my schools there were students who just called the teachers “Miss” - which at least some of the teachers saw as disrespectful but there really wasn’t a way to fix that.
I know some teachers with more difficult names would choose a nickname or ask to be called “Ms. Susan” instead of “Mrs. Tchaikovsky”, depending on the age and capabilities of their regular students.
All my personal teachers introduced themselves as Mrs/Mr (or Coach) LastName until college, where most of them were Dr.
reaper2161@reddit
In my experience it’s super regional. In northwest Tennessee, our teachers introduced themselves by their first name and preferred to be addressed that way. In northern Georgia and North Carolina, teachers go by their last name unless you’re more familiar with them (we called our drama teacher by his first name, but math teachers by last). It very much depends on the school itself, but more often than not it will be “Mr/Ms/Mrs/Mx Last Name”
XayahTheVastaya@reddit
Only at the 20 person total farm school I went to for a few years
Boston_Brand1967@reddit
Teacher here. As many others have said, the normal is to say Mr./Ms/Mrs. XYZ. I know of SOME folks who are moving to use Mr. FIRST NAME...I went to a summer stop motion film camp to help teach and the team decided to use our first name, which seemed off to me.
In College, I called all my professors Mr/Ms/Mrs/Dr.
I also only call students by their first name, or a preferred nickname, unless formally introducing them to an assembly or something.
yuukosbooty@reddit
My experience was we didn’t call our teachers by their first names until college and even then I feel like it was mostly the professors that we had a lot of classes with and really liked
JacobDCRoss@reddit
Where do you see American Media portray students calling teachers by their first name? That is not the practice anywhere, as far as I know. The amount of schools were such a thing would be okay. Is probably less than one half of 1%.
Anyalovesreddit123@reddit
My highschool is weird and we call them by their first name
Grindar1986@reddit
First name is very unusual for a teacher. For the younger kids often a teacher's assistant will be Mrs. Jessica but the teacher would still be Mrs. Smith.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Interesting, so first names are mostly reserved for assistants or younger child settings, not the main teacher.
MooseYearner@reddit
I personally go by my first name but still require the Mr. in front of it, but that's just because I really don't like my last name and don't want to hear it constantly. I've also known a lot of teachers who ask students to call them the first letter of their last name if it's long or hard to pronounce like Mr. A or Ms. H.
Capital-Designer-385@reddit
Sometimes in primary school teachers will go by miss firstname too. For example, the YouTube teacher Miss Rachel.
It’s always best to use last names though unless they introduce themselves and then use whatever name they give you
sluttypidge@reddit
This was actually an interesting problem at the school my mother/sister teach at.
Obviously, my sister same last name as she is unmarried.
My sister and the teacher she works with have a similar last and first name.
4 and 5 year old students. Mom and my sister just go by Ms. Lastname.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Never heard of teachers called Mrs Jessica etc
phoenixRisen1989@reddit
That’d be in like preschool and maybe kindergarten but even there it could go either way.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Always known them as last names. Most of my friends are teachers and work in pre k and kindergarten.
phoenixRisen1989@reddit
I mean, definitely not always because I’ve seen examples to the contrary. But I think it is definitely more common to have last names for sure. Or last initial if it’s a difficult last name for a four-year-old to pronounce.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
I think it harder to say a first name than a last name. For example some teachers names are Guadalupe but can say lopez or jones. Most just say miss. Or mr..that is not hard to say.
phoenixRisen1989@reddit
Ok but that’s why I specified “last initial.” The first letter of a difficult last name. So Miss W instead of Miss Wojciechowski. I was agreeing with you that it’s more common to use last names.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Okay
mayonnaisejane@reddit
Preschool teachers are all Miss/Ms and never Mrs.
See also: Ms. Rachel. (She's married.)
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Lol so you can't call them ms. But can call them by their first name.
RaeWineLover@reddit
It's common for preschool where I live, usually Miss First Name.
Open-Neighborhood459@reddit
Interesting never heard of that. Always by last name. Just a respect thing.
mayonnaisejane@reddit
At my kid's preschool they're ALL Ms/Mr firstname. Except the cook. She's just firstname.
It'll switch to Ms/Mr Last Name at Kindergarten and stay that way till High School or College at which point the honorific is often lost unless directly addressing the teacher. As in "Can't go out tonight, Smith gave us way too much homework."
iowanaquarist@reddit
In college, it's 50/50. In elementary school, particularly the younger grades, it's usually Ms Firstname
nunyabizthewiz@reddit
I’d say usually Mr. Or Mrs. But sometimes if the teacher is a coach they just go by their last name. It’s funny, my team of all female teachers always refer to each other by our last names “Hey, Smith!”
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
My neighbor growing up went to a school where teachers were called by their first names. It was a small, alternative public school with less than 100 kids in k-5.
Financial_Emphasis25@reddit
I went to private school in middle school (7th and 8th grade to get away from our horrible middle school system). The teachers there called everyone by their last name, and the kids themselves called the other students by their last names. We called the teachers Mr or Miss last name just like in public schools.
Thefearfullam@reddit
almost always Ms. (or whatever other thing like Mrs.) or Mr.
drnewcomb@reddit
It is not uncommon in the South to refer to adults as Mr/Mrs/Ms [First Name]. If this is allowed at school depends on the school. Certainly very early grades (e.g. Kindergarten) allow it.
Poltergoose1416@reddit
Not sure where you're seeing Americans call their teacher their first name. That's not normal here no
Chickadee831@reddit
Never. It's rude.
cozybear3636@reddit
At least where I went to school in Pennsylvania we were required to call them Mr. and Mrs.. But there are a lot of quaker schools where I live. In those schools the "Friends Schools" (thats what they're called) you are required to call teachers by their first name.
I don't really know what happens at Catholic school. In the city the vast majority of families regardless if they are catholic or not send their kids to catholic school. I think Catholic school is more strict at least it seems so. LOL they got yelled at A LOT when I would pass by them playing in the parks at recess.
Certain_Bit3809@reddit
It’s considered rude. And that was probably the subtext of whatever show/movie you were watching.
Emily_Postal@reddit
Until university. Then it was a first name basis.
bizoticallyyours83@reddit
It was mostly Mr./Miss/Mrs. when I went to school, it was the same for my daughter. Though some teachers are more casual about it then others. I had teachers who went by their first names too.
wairua_907@reddit
I have never called a teacher by their first name . I knew the first name bcuz of the yearbook but it felt .. wrong ..
INS_Stop_Angela@reddit
We did in the ‘70’s at my So Cal high school, which was nicknamed Hippie High! There was only one teacher who wanted to be called by “Mister.”
Dizzy_Description812@reddit
Kids have a way of using your forst name in a disrespectful manor as well as any personal info. I take that power away by being Mr. Jim.
RoLandaMamba@reddit
My daughters public elementary school in the united states all teachers are called by their first name only including the principal and staff.
sharkycharming@reddit
College was different; there were very few professors who had us use their last names. (Usually just the really ancient ones.) But I think there were only two high school teachers who asked us to use their first names, and they were in their early 20s.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
It may be different now, but back in the 1980s when I was an undergrad all professors were called by their first name.
Sea-Bill78@reddit
I wouldn’t let them call their teachers with the first name even if the teacher is ok with it. Always with the right salutation, if they are Dr with Dr.
Gh0st412@reddit
It really depends on the student. I’ve always referred to my teachers as Mister, Miss, or Misses. I find it to be rather rude and disrespectful otherwise. Sometimes when you’re close to a teacher they’ll let it slide, but I’ve never personally done it. If it’s a rude student they’ll do it, they often find themselves to be above their respected elders or they think it’s cool. Just depends on how you are raised, I suppose.
No-You5550@reddit
1-12 Last name only. In college I had a few teachers I was friends with so in class by last name out of class first names. I was first names with all TA even when they were teaching in class.
Vachic09@reddit
In my area, the default is Mr./Mrs./Ms./Mizz/Professor/Dr. You only use their first name if they ask you to do so.
jvc1011@reddit
Teachers, very very very rarely and only when everyone does so because the teacher asked for it. In that case preceded by an honorific - Mr. John, for example.
Professors and lecturers in a university setting are different. In a certain sense, upper division students and graduate students are colleagues as well as students. In fact, there are graduate students who teach graduate classes. So more of them will be on a first-name basis with their students.
MomRaccoon@reddit
Preschool only if accompanied by "Miss" or "Mr". Even if you are an adult and a teacher you see frequently says Call me (first name), it does not feel right.
Artistic_Scene_8124@reddit
It depends on school culture. At the first school I taught at, students called their teachers professor. At my current school most teachers go by their first name.
pikkdogs@reddit
Never first name.
Consistent_Damage885@reddit
Every school I have been to it has been Ms. Or Mr., but when I worked at a tutor center, they required that we go by first names.
Jaaaaampola@reddit
I’m 30 years old, still see a teacher I had (babysit for her) and still can’t bring myself to call her by her first name even though she had me in class half my life ago
drevictorious@reddit
At my night school there were a few teachers we would call just their last name. Hartman instead of Mr. Hartman. Looking back, it was only the male teachers we did this with and it was casual but still respectful
Vivid-Internal8856@reddit
I'm a high school teacher in Texas, students call teachers by last name. Usually using Mister or Miss. Some teachers and schools, just using the last name is fine. Others, Mister or Miss is expected. At most schools I know of, if you called a teacher by their first name, even if that teacher was okay with it, the principal would not be okay with it, to maintain the respectful learning environment. May be different at some types of schools, but generally, it's last name only (with Mister or Miss, in most places)
Dudeus-Maximus@reddit
I mostly went to private schools where we always called them by 1st name.
In public schools it was always Mr/Mrs last name.
tn00bz@reddit
Nope, it's always the last name for teachers. It's wild how sticky it is too. I am friends with one of my old teachers, I still call her by her last name. Now I'm a teacher and everyone still calls me by my last name. We even call other teachers by their last names. I went on a europe trip with my teacher friends over spring break and we still referred to eachother by last name.
Penguin_Life_Now@reddit
I am a bit older, and it has been decades since I was in school, but in my experience, no it is not common, though in the younger ages, here in the south it has became common the last 20 years or so to refer to refer to teachers as Mr or Ms, and their first name such as, Ms Cindy's class had a field trip today, instead of Ms Miller's class with the teachers name being Cindy Miller.
Evenfisher01@reddit
Professors might like to be called by there first name but school teachers never do
Serious-Mongoose-387@reddit
i don’t think i even KNEW most of my teachers’ first names. it was like prying into their private lives if i happened to find out one of them.
patty202@reddit
Always Mr or Ms. I have never called a teacher by their first name.
Low-Restaurant8484@reddit
In college Inhad a professor that insisted on being called hy jis first name. But thats college, very different dynamic
In gradeschool, everyone is 'Mr', 'Ms', or 'Mrs'
By middle and high school, some kids will just call a teacher by their last name with no 'Mr', 'Ms', or 'Mrs'. This is the casual option ig. First names though isn't really a thing
weeniehutjunior1234@reddit
Until college age (18+), no. Exceptions are teachers who encourage kids to call them by their first name, but that’s not common.
Torkin@reddit
My high school had a policy to call everyone by their first names. Not a hard rule, but I only recall one teacher who asked us to use his last name, but in turn called his students by their last names. He was British and couldn’t bring himself to use first names. Hope you are well Mr Anderson.
Duque_de_Osuna@reddit
I am Gen X so I cannot speak to current policies, but when I was a kid that was never ok.
VinegarMyBeloved@reddit
Very few teachers would be okay with it. College professors, on the other hand, are a mixed bag
waitingforgandalf@reddit
I've been teaching for a decade, and when I was student teaching I was in one high school where calling teachers by their first name was common (it was generally up to the individual teacher and the students didn't seem to care at all). Everywhere else I've experienced, including my current school, Mr./ Ms/ Mrs. Last Name is standard.
museworm@reddit
In preschool, daycare and camp settings its pretty common to use first names like ms./mr. First name, teacher first name, or counselor first name. Then in elementary and secondary it's generally last name. In college it varies greatly by professor, I had many who wanted us to use first names and saw us as colleagues and some who demanded more respect and wanted us to use their full title (Dr. Last name, etc...)
a_wrennie@reddit
at the high school in the town over from my hometown, it was and still is the norm to call teachers by their first names, but that was very specifically THAT school’s culture. the standard is that it’s always Ms./Mrs./Mr. LastName. (context: I’m a teacher and I get very annoyed when my students use my first name unless they genuinely can’t pronounce my last name)
FluffyBunnyRemi@reddit
Depends on the age and field, in my experience.
Up until college, it was always last names and titles. I don't think I even used my theatre teachers' first names with them.
Once I got to college, it depended on the field. More arts-focused professors usually preferred their first name, particularly with theatre. Other departments still used last names.
In graduate school, the professors for my program were typically referred to with their first name (their preference), though my electives preferred name and titles, I think.
Space-cadet-66@reddit
I went to a very hippie alternative elementary school and we called out teachers by their first names! It was weird transitioning to middle school where we used Mr. and Mrs. My friend also refers to his grad school professors by their first names.
lesbian__overlord@reddit
it went the other way around for me! i attended a normal public school where we called teachers by their last names until midway 10th grade, and then i went to an alternative high school for 2.5 years where teachers were all called by their first names.
astronomisst@reddit
My kids went to a K-8 school in MN where teachers and admin staff go by their 1st names. It started 13 or more years ago when the principal decided they wanted to do that, and it continued with subsequent principals. It's not a whole district thing; there are half dozen more schools and none do that.
I remember telling my son the first day of kindergarten that he's going to have to get used to calling his teacher "Mrs. Doe" agter using first names in preschool. Then he came home saying "Jane taught us this...."
Lingo2009@reddit
In my religion, historically we didn’t use titles. However, nowadays, most schools in America of my religion do use titles as a sign of respect. But I did interview at a school that was a little more liberal. Think typical Christian private school with sports, but still of my religion. For some reason, they didn’t use titles, even though they were a lot more mainstream and not as conservative. Right now I teach in a school of my religion that is very conservative. But we definitely use titles.
Bluemonogi@reddit
I did not call any teacher or professor by their first name when I was their student.
krittyyyyy@reddit
The only teachers in high school we used first names for were the nuns and monks, Sister Mary, Brother John, etc.
StrongStyleDragon@reddit
Almost always Mr/Mrs/ms. last name. If you’re cool with them then you can remove the honorific. My world history teacher was like that. We just called him by his last name.
Completerandosorry@reddit
In schools, it’s almost always Mr/mrs X, but I do find it to be somewhat more common (though still not the norm) for college professors to go by their first names.
cdb03b@reddit
In elementary school it is common to call a teacher by their first name combined with the proper honorific. So Miss Hayley, for example. But this is mostly limited to Pre-K, Kindergarten, and First or Second Grade. By third Grade most kids have transitioned to honorific plus last name.
From that point onward through college you will use Honorific plus last name unless specifically instructed to do otherwise. I had a college choral director who went by Doctor First Name because he did not like sounding stodgy when he earned his doctorate but we as students refused to not use the honorific of his recent achievement.
Use of a first name or last name without honorific is absolutely unheard of and would be taken as an insult by all hearing.
GreenBeanTM@reddit
When I was in high school there was a legitimate rule against calling teachers by their first name. I found out about it because this one guy in drama club would *always* call our teacher by her first name and finally one day when he did it about 3 times in the span of like 5 minutes she turned to him and was like “look, I don’t care if you call me my first name, you’re not annoying me by doing it. But if Mr. *vice principal* walks in and hears it *I* can get in trouble, not you.”
BreadfruitRegular631@reddit
The two are not mutually exclusive and according to the one teacher I know it's both where she teaches. In other words: Say her name is Karen Smith.....her kids call her Mrs. Karen.
Nickvv52@reddit
Even the most chill teachers I had preferred to be addressed as mr/ms whatever. The best teacher i had preferred Dr. (Name) I wish I could take him again, but I've already completed the courses he instructs.
kbell58@reddit
We do not call teachers by their first name all the way through university. It’s Mr, Ms, or Dr.
CheeseMongoNJ@reddit
I've always called my teachers Mr or Mrs/Ms, even long after being out of school. My 6th grade teacher was a regular customer where I worked, and I always called him Mr. _. Finally one day he said to me, "I've known you for 30 years. You can call me Pete." I still don't though.....
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That is actually so interesting 😄 it really shows how deeply that habit of respect stays even years after school ends.
Marmatus@reddit
In high school I only had a few teachers who were on a first name basis, but in college it was probably about half of my professors. You'd never go into a class and immediately call a teacher by their first name, but it's not uncommon for teachers to give permission to call them by their first name.
duckbrick@reddit
In high school we often called our teachers by just their last name ("Smith" instead of "Mrs. Smith"), but I can't remember how often we would address them that was vs just refer to them that way.
BAMspek@reddit
Typically the closest a teacher would go is to be called by Mr/Mrs First Name. So Mr. Frank or Ms. Stephanie. The Mr/Mrs helps to maintain a boundary in the teacher/student relationship.
Pandaburn@reddit
It depends on the school. I went to a Quaker elementary school and we called our teachers by their first names. When I went to public school it was always Mr/miss/Mrs something.
gsxr@reddit
My wife is a public school teacher. Know a bunch of teachers. It’s Mrs/ms. Heck I call them Mrs ….unless we’re in an adults only social situation. And some Of them I’ve knows for decades
wmp8@reddit
Talking to them it is always Mr/Ms unless they have insisted otherwise. Talking about them with others is often last name only.
OK_Stop_Already@reddit
Never. Always Mr/Mrs Last Name.
Jayn_Newell@reddit
It’s unusual at a minimum. We did have a couple we called by their first names when I was in high school in Canada, but that was because they had the same surname and it was the only way to distinguish them.
fleetpqw24@reddit
In general, especially once you move to 1st grade and beyond, no, not common at all to call a teacher by their first name. In Pre-K and Kindergarten, the teacher may allow their students to call them Mr/Mrs/Ms. First name. When I drove a school bus, I let my students call me Mr. T**** (which is my real first name, lol) Hell, I’ve been out of school for 20 years next year, and still call the teachers I keep in contact with Mr./Mrs./Coach Last Name.
pawsplay36@reddit
In High School, a lot of teachers would be called by Mr. or Ms. "Firstname." That seems more familiar but still acknowledges a hierarchical distinction. A formal Mr. or Ms. Lastname is still the norm. I knew a few teachers who were Firstname Lastname to everyone, staff or students alike; I couldn't tell you the reason but maybe this is a Quaker norm that has spilled over.
I can't think of a single teacher I've ever had that was just called by their first name by a student. I worked with a teacher who was Jay to the other professors and some of his TAs, but he was still Dr. Dowling to other students, and I as a TA and undergrad assistant would call him Dr. Dowling unless I was alone with other people who all exclusively called him Jay.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Mr./Ms. Firstname actually sounds like a middle ground between friendly and formal. Plain first name really does seem rare from all these replies.
Rare_Vibez@reddit
Not a teacher but a librarian and we do that. I’ve known a couple of teachers to do that as well.
elena_ct@reddit
Did you go to school in the South? I think Mrs. or Mr. firstname is normal in the American South, but uncommon in the rest of the United States.
pawsplay36@reddit
Yes, South, Midwest, and Southwest.
elena_ct@reddit
Oh that is interesting, it is more widespread than I thought!
pawsplay36@reddit
I will say Mrs. is all but extinct unless someone writes it on the board that way. Ms. or a Miss with plausible ambiguity is the norm.
elena_ct@reddit
I think my kids both have a Ms. but I could be wrong. They woudn't care at all anyway.
CaptainAwesome06@reddit
Pretty much always Mr./Ms./Mrs.
I had a teacher that we called by only his last name in high school. He hated it.
ABelleWriter@reddit
In college all TAs go by their first name, and a lot of professors do to. If the professor has a doctorate they might go by "Dr Soandso" or by their first name. A professor could go by "Professor Soandso" but that's pretty uncommon where I live
Zealousideal_Cod5214@reddit
It very much depends.
My elementary school, we called them all (except for the gym teacher) by their first name. After that, it was by the honorific.
ExposedId@reddit
In grad school, my professors went by their first names. The program had courses in topics like labor movements and social mobility, so everyone was aware of power dynamics.
When I started teaching courses, I told students to refer to me by my first name unless they were uncomfortable with that. Some international students continued to refer to me by my last name.
TsundereLoliDragon@reddit
In preschool and maybe college if you have a cool professor. In elementary through high school, basically never.
This-Reindeer6063@reddit
Almost always Mr/Ms
But there are definitely places where their first name is used. Some schools have a policy where they cannot ask students to call them by their first name, some it would be up to the teacher.
p4ll4smonstrosity@reddit
the only time i did that was at an expulsion school i went to, and it was just a few teachers who specifically said they preferred it. it’s otherwise extremely uncommon
96HeelGirl@reddit
I've never heard anyone do this, with the minor exception of the the graduate students who taught some of my undergrad classes. We called them by first name.
Friendly-Gur-6736@reddit
I had one college professor that told us to call him by his first name. Said he disliked the formality and pretentiousness of being called "Dr" all the time.
But that is very rare.
xannieh666@reddit
The norm here is to use honorfics and the last name. There are exceptions of course. Example. My son in kindergarten had a teacher with a complicated last name. Instead of trying to get the kids to pronounce it... she went by Miss Amy.
Soggy-Advantage4711@reddit
At the high school where I teach, all kids refer to us by first names. It was odd my first year, very awkward to get used to. After five years it’s normal to me.
In fact, we had an extremely conservative student who refused to use first names. It felt very out of place every time he’d say “Mr. ———“. It somehow felt like he was being condescending. Weird, I know, but that’s what happened.
Longjumping_Ant7025@reddit
As a teacher I've always preferred Miss. Firstname. Some of the schools I've taught at wouldnt allow that so I would switch to Miss. Last initial. Despite what some people think. It doesn't take away from my "authority" in the classroom. Nor is it disrespectful, because that's what I've been asked to be called. In fact there was one child I let drop the Miss and just go by first name because it worked best for him and improved his behavior and grades.
lunajmagroir@reddit
When I was in public school it was only Ms/Mr Last Name. When I switched to a private Quaker school in high school we called all the teachers and staff by their first names, which is more in line with the Quaker philosophy of equality. I think that's pretty uncommon though and mostly only happens at alternative type schools.
beardiac@reddit
In American high schools, both through my own exposure and being married to a teacher now, I've never known of a teacher at that level who would go by their first name with students. It's very uncommon and I think is generally considered a path to undermining authority if taken.
College is a different story, though. While you're likely to still call your intro-level professors Mr. Smith or Mrs. Jones, etc., you're more likely to at least be aware of your teacher's first names, and as you get closer and past the graduate level many professors drop that formality in favor of preferred names as they will have more familiar relationships with the students in their programs. E.g., my wife when taking earth science related courses for her BS in secondary education had several professors who were simply known as Steve, Maria, Gill, etc. By that point you've taken multiple classes with these professors and have a more interactive and collaborative relationship with them.
qu33nof5pad35@reddit
The only time I’ve ever called a college professor by their first name was someone who was like 5-7 years older than me. All the other times, it’s been Ms/Mr or Professor.
CornucopiaDM1@reddit
I think it is rarest to call them by ONLY their first name, but in elementary school, or some southern areas, it is common to have the honorific preceding it.
nis_sound@reddit
Not in school. But places like daycares and such, it is.
I can't think of a teacher I called by their first name, but I had a couple who were "Mr. D" or "Ms. S" because their last names were hard to pronounce, but even then, the letter was the first letter of their last name.
CraftyFraggle@reddit
We used our teachers first names at my private elementary school in the 1980’s.
And then in college it was probably about 50/50.
But it’s far more common to use last names here beyond preschool/preK where Ms/Mr First Name is common.
cjbanning@reddit
All of my elementary/secondary schools used Mr/Ms LastName except for a Quaker (Society of Friends) I attended that used Teacher FirstName. (But this wasn't even universal among all the Friends schools in the region!)
Used_Emotion_1386@reddit
Niche thing, but at Quaker schools it’s standard to call teachers by their first names.
Traditional-Let9530@reddit
Mostly Mr./Ms. in schools and Professor in college, first names happen but usually only in super casual or alternative setups, not the norm.
Carinyosa99@reddit
My son is currently is finishing up 11th grade (so only one more year of high school) and has not once called any of his teachers by their first name. He does have one teacher where they're a bit more casual with him, but they just say his last name and no Mr. before it.
wieldymouse@reddit
Mr., Mrs., Ms., or Miss
tcrhs@reddit
I never called a teacher or a professor by their first name. It was always Mrs., Ms., Mr. or Dr. last name.
Csherman92@reddit
We do this is college. Not in high school.
ManateeNipples@reddit
My kid goes to a very liberal private Montessori school and the kids refer to all the adults by their first name, including the principal. No it's not standard here, but some exist. Not that many though so I'm not sure why it's portrayed that way
Weary_Capital_1379@reddit
Never called by first name. At least not through high school.
Lzinger@reddit
Very uncommon in highschool, but I college some professors will go by their first name
No_Arm_931@reddit
When I worked in elementary schools, it wasn’t uncommon for kids to call certain staff Ms/Mr FirstName (but never just their first name).
It was typically school staff who weren’t teachers (custodians, paraprofessionals, administrative staff, etc.), and only because that’s what they told the children to call them.
WildlifePolicyChick@reddit
Yes, we use honorifics. Very rarely would you use a teacher's first name, and that would be after you are out of school and at their invitation.
MotherOf4Jedi1Sith@reddit
Very uncommon. I'm sure it happens, but I've never called any of my teachers by their first name (even after graduating, I still called them Mr./Mrs.), nor have my children.
Forest_Lincoln@reddit
The closest to that casual that I’ve gotten was referring to them by solely their last name, no honorifics. But I was a teacher’s assistant, so more subordinate than student.
Unless I was given direct instruction to use their first name, it’d feel improper to not use their last name. It would still feel improper even after permission anyway, and it would still be Ms/Mr First Name. The only semi-exception was nicknames.
When I was a kid, it was near a sin to even ask for the teacher’s first name, much less to call them by it
Quix66@reddit
No. Students do not call their teachers by their first names.
In my experience, the teachers who encourage the students to use their first names are generally not well respected by the students.
ChickyBaby@reddit
Because there is a difference in the relationship within the classroom than the relationship in public.
NagathaChristie91@reddit
When you aren’t sure, use Mr./Ms. It’s a respectful default. If they invite you to call them by their first name, which does happen, you call them by their first name. The difference in how often you call a teacher by their first name will mostly be based on a combination of regional and generational cultures. I’m in the south. I didn’t have teachers growing up who you could just call by their first name until college. Now, please call me by my first name
BubbhaJebus@reddit
For me, we did in preschool and kindergarten. Beyond that, it was always Miss X, Mrs. X, or Mr. X.
Mumchkin@reddit
Even now as an adult (51), if I have an interaction with one of my teachers, it's Mr/Ms/Miss last name . Despite them saying I can call them by their first name, I just can't do it. It feels disrespectful lol.
jezr3n@reddit
I went to a high school for the arts and about half of the teachers went by their first names. There were also some that went by Mr./Ms. Firstname. Definitely not a common thing though. And I honestly found it to be kind of awkward.
RodeoBoss66@reddit
I've been seeing a few videos online lately of some sort of Tik Tok challenge where students record themselves addressing their teachers by their first names, and the teachers usually react to it with disapproval and correction, sometimes angrily. A few will react with "ha ha, very funny," but the generally accepted norm is for students (and often parents) to address teachers and school administrators as Mr./Mrs./Ms. (Last name).
Derwin0@reddit
Teachers are always called Mr/Ms by students.
Every_peach_2676@reddit
In Montessori it's the norm. Source: I work at a Montessori school, children 2 years through jr. High.
deafinitely-faeris@reddit
In college some of my professors preferred us to use their first name or Mr/Ms FirstName.
High-school and anything below that however you'd probably get in trouble. I even had a relative that worked at my school when I was a kid and it was grilled into me that when I saw her at school she was Mrs. Smith only, not Aunt Sharon. I had a few slip ups and would be quickly corrected, so they typically do take it quite seriously - although I guess you might get a "cool" teacher every now and then that might let it slide. The closest I ever had to that was a teacher who let us call him Chris P. Bacon because Bacon was his last name. 😂
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
Aunt Sharon becoming Mrs. Smith at school really shows how seriously that boundary is taken 😄 this is actually very helpful.
V-Right_In_2-V@reddit
I have never seen this at any level of education. Maybe if you are in some graduate program and you spend significant time doing research with current or former professors. Maybe.
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
So it is rare enough that even seeing it in movies gives the wrong impression, then.
V-Right_In_2-V@reddit
Yes. Very much so
Remarkable_Table_279@reddit
It was uncommon but we still had Dana…we were supposed to use a title but we never did. Everyone else was Mrs last name of Miss first name or Mr last name (in 90s, Mr first name sounded like a hair stylist so wasn’t terribly common)
Sea-Evidence-5523@reddit (OP)
That is interesting, so there were exceptions, but still not common enough to feel normal.
emaddy2109@reddit
It’s typically considered rude or disrespectful to call a teacher by their first name which is why it’s usually done by the troublemaker in movies and TV shows.
I did have a college professor that went by his first name but he was also very young, mid 20s without a doctorate.
Party-Yak-2894@reddit
Every teacher in my child’s elementary goes by Ms/r first name including the principal
Maleficent-Ad-8649@reddit
As a public high school teacher it is almost exclusively last name with an exception for our ASL program where 1st name is the norm and in some of our trade school classes where there is a different vibe led by industry professionals instead of teaching professionals.
Beneficial_Layer2583@reddit
High school and below, Mr./Ms.
In college pretty much all my professors went by their first names. I can’t imagine calling my grad school advisor “Professor” or “Doctor” lol so weird
MillieBirdie@reddit
Occasionally a young/new teacher will prefer to go by Ms First Name, but it is the exception in my experience.
Athrynne@reddit
I grew up in a very hippy part of Northern California, and in the tiny school I went to for K-8 (200 kids) we did call most of our teachers by their first names. That changed when I went to high school, it was Mr./Ms. like everywhere else.
hisamsmith@reddit
The only teachers in high school that first names were used were three history teachers who were brothers. In their individual classrooms they were still Mr. Last name but in hallways or anywhere that they could be in the same place as their brothers they were first and last name.
I lived in a small town. At least 1/2 of the teachers lived in the town and the other half lived in the next small town over. One of my teachers went to my best friend’s church and we knew her outside of school as Sister first name. Four of my teachers were parents of my friends. I knew them either as Justin’s mom, Sarah’s dad or first name depending on my friendship with their kid. I babysat 3 or 4 teachers kids between 14-18. There was a strict separation between in school and outside of school on what I called them.
No-Lettuce-5783@reddit
We always call our teachers by Mr., Mrs., Ms., Miss., In fact even after we become adults, I think the majority of Americans still call their old teachers by Mr., Mrs., Ms., Miss., We have "Miss" here in the southeastern US. Sometimes children call adult women who aren't related to them, "Miss." It's a respect thing that children are taught here. I never did this in the Northeastern US. It's weird to hear my daughter's boyfriend call my wife "Miss."
Leona_Faye_@reddit
The professors in my major preferred it. It took some getting used to.
IconoclastExplosive@reddit
Well some of it comes down to the students age. If you're 10 and in grade school you're probably not doing it but if you're 20 and in college it's pretty possible. Then it's down to the teacher or professor, I had a business prof years ago who wanted us to call him T-Bone.
bsj72380@reddit
The only exception I've seen to the Mr./Mrs. Last Name model was a kindergarten teacher who had a last name that was a bit of a mouthful, particularly for the students who needed speech therapy accommodations. That teacher went by Mrs. First Name.
Bethlebee@reddit
Sometimes we drop the Mr./Ms. and just call them by thier last name.
SummitJunkie7@reddit
Depends on the school culture. In elementary and high school it was Ms. and Mr. for all teachers. At the school where I went to undergrad, it was generally professor, sometimes doctor (for the PhD's who were also feeling pretentious), and occasionally first names. At grad school, it was all first names.
They'll tell you on the first day of class what to call them. It would generally be considered impolite to refer to someone more casually than they have invited you to - as in, if they introduce themselves as "professor" then calling them by their first name is rude. If they say "call me " and you instead call them "professor ", they might care and ask you again to call them by first name, or they might not mind, but it's unlikely to be viewed as disrespectful.
MethodNo5756@reddit
Throughout all my school years, I had only 3 teachers that wanted to be called by their last name. The other teachers would go by their first names, but with an honorific first (examples: Ms Veronica, Mr Dave, Mrs Beth)
dontpolluteplz@reddit
It’s very uncommon to just use their first name lol maybe if you’ve got a really chill college professor but still it would be more likely for you to just drop the Mr/Ms/Mrs/Professor and use their last name.
bigbbpuddingsnatch8@reddit
My husband’s brother was in my mom’s class in high school. He still calls her by her last name even though it’s been well over a decade.
Wolf482@reddit
If my student called me by my first name id be thinking if they're trying to start a fight.
thejt10000@reddit
In elementary school where I am a lot of times it's Mr/Ms and then the given name. So "Ms. Barbara" or "Mr. Alex."
Hoosier_Jedi@reddit
I’m a teacher. Call me by my given name at your peril if you’re a student.
cyvaquero@reddit
Gen X, grew up in rural PA, it was always by title. Gen Z kids in San Antonio, they did the same.
Apocalyptic0n3@reddit
I had teachers/professors in college that just had us call them by the first name, but that was the only time I ever saw that. Their argument was "you're an adult now and we're peers" or something like that. This was a rare occurrence, but it seemed like one a semester would be like that.
In high school, I had two teachers who wanted to be called by just their last name. No Mister/Misses prefix. Otherwise, all teachers were called "Mr. Jones"
GurProfessional9534@reddit
I didn’t even know any of my teachers’ first names.
Nobodyville@reddit
All the way through school it was Mr/Mrs/Ms last name. College was Dr or Professor Last Name. Law school was the same except that I worked in our clinic and eventually called those profs by their first names but that was more because I was like a coworker.
To this day I can’t bring myself to call my former teachers by their first name
420dykes@reddit
When I was in highschool there was one teacher that insisted everyone call him by his first name. He was the rock band teacher :) Punk rock dude
electrizai@reddit
I went to Reed College in Portland, Oregon. The norm there is to call all professors by their first name! Reed has a lot of cultural quirks though, it’s definitely not the norm in most academic settings.
mcalesy@reddit
I feel like it’s only in higher education (college), and depends on the department.
Relevant-Emu5782@reddit
Sometimes. My daughter attended a Montessori school from age 3 to grade 8 (age 14). Most of the teachers there went by their first name. There were a few that were older and had come from other backgrounds and wished to be called Mr/Mrs Lastname, and the headmaster went by Dr. Last name..the kids adjusted and called each person what they preferred. The teachers that went by first names didn't have less authority than the others. But it was also a very egalitarian school, being Montessori, so authority wasn't a big thing there anyway.
At my public highschool, some teachers went by Mr/Ms X - single initial, like for ex I had a math teacher that was Mrs G. And a few had nicknames they went by: a popular history teacher went by Mo, and her actual name was Mrs Maurice but she liked Mo.
Top-Web3806@reddit
I never had any teacher go by their first name or know of any who did.
Neither_Internal_261@reddit
Not in k-12 (grade school). But in college, especially grad school, usually first name basis.
rockettaco37@reddit
Not really in school. College/University is a bit different though
SeannyCash03@reddit
For me, you always addressed your teacher as Mr, or Ms/Mrs from elementary (primary) school to middle school. I’ve seen kids get sent out because they thought it would be funny to call our teacher by their first name.
Some of the teachers at my high school don’t really care if you call them by their first name but a lot of them still prefer the title of Mr or Ms/Mrs. I think that’s to keep a professional boundary between the students, especially the seniors who are 18 and think they can be best friends with their teachers.
question10106@reddit
West coast public school education here in a liberal area from the 2000s to mid 2010s, then a large public university:
In elementary school I think all my teachers went by "M(r)s. lastname." In middle school, probably close to 60/40 last name vs first name, depending on their preference. By high school probably 60/40 the opposite way.
In college, basically all the grad instructors went by their first name, majority of professors went by Dr./Professor last name, but some preferred their first name only.
Domidude@reddit
Throughout elementary, middle, and high school it was always Mr, Ms, or Mrs [last name]. The only exception i ever saw was in high school and it was because one of my classmates knew our teacher incredibly well. The teacher was their mother’s best friend of 30 years. She was basically an aunt to him.
When I was in college i had two professors that preferred to be called by their first name instead of their last, so it was Professor [first name]. The overwhelming majority went by their last names though.
visitor987@reddit
Grades 1-12 its Mr., Mrs., Ms. with last name many student don't even know their teachers first name. pre-school thru K its often Mr., Mrs., Ms. first name or just first name. In College its more flexible.
Kgb_Officer@reddit
I've known some teachers who were ok with it in High School. It wasn't super common, but it happened.
It depends on the teacher, but it's safest to just default to Mr./Ms. (Last name) to be safe.
No_Importance_750@reddit
Idk about everyone but at my school it’s disrespectful to call a teacher by their first name. We always say “Mr/Ms” and their last name.
GeauxCup@reddit
I'd never dream of doing that, and I can't imagine a teacher would go for that, as it blurs a dangerous line.
I have a had a few college professors offer a first name bases after graduation as a sort of rite of passage.
webbitor@reddit
Dangerous?? The line is just a convention.
GeauxCup@reddit
Calling an elder Mr/Mrs is just a convention, but it's very different when there's a power dynamic between the two.
For example, optics wouldn't be great for a young high school teacher in their 20s to be on a first name basis with a minor high school senior. It implies they're more than just professional.
webbitor@reddit
Not if all their students do the same.
Complex_Committee_25@reddit
Dangerous indeed. Hahaha
FunTricky903@reddit
>Dangerous
That's a little dramatic.
misagale@reddit
Even if it’s first name, it’s Ms/Mr. First Name.
False-Cookie3379@reddit
I’ve never seen it, in my experience it’s either Miss/Ms/Mrs/Mr/Dr/Professor first name or last name.
OodalollyOodalolly@reddit
There is a bunch of videos on YouTube where a students call teachers by their first name and films their reactions. Most of them are stunned/not amused! It might help answer your question on how rare it is!
DeathofRats42@reddit
In the lower grades through high school, it's Mr/Mrs/... . Always formal.
In college, it's more teacher's choice. Some will insist on the formal. Some of them will drop the formal address and just go by their last name. More rarely, they will use just their first name.
Sassifrassically@reddit
In grade school it was ALWAYS Mrs/Mr but in college a lot of the time it was the teachers first name, but not always.
CupBeEmpty@reddit
In my 12 years I never had a teacher go by just first name. Like when I was really little some went by Ms. Susan or something but by first grade it was all Mr./Mrs. Lastname.
This was also late 80s and 90s.
commanderquill@reddit
I would never call a teacher by their first name, but my friend went to a private high school and said people did over there.
thirdeyefish@reddit
Mrs. Kimmy is a children's TV show. Our teachers were always Mister/Misses/Miss Family-name. Never given names.
wfbhp@reddit
I can remember having one teacher in high school who allowed students to call him by his first name if they wanted to. He was one I was actually pretty close to (for instance, he'd play games on the school LAN with a few of us when he had class time that involved students completing an assignment and didn't involve him standing and lecturing, and he was the faculty advisor for a couple of extracurriculars I was in), but I didn't call him by his first name. The small group of us that knew him well like that all called him Mr. L (literally just the letter L, that's not me abbreviating his name here for privacy). So, no, that was not common in my experience, it was almost always Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms. Surname.
In college, there were a small number of professors who would let students use their first name if we liked (they always announced this policy on the first day of a class). I still didn't really do this with any of them. For almost all cases, it was Dr. Surname (about 95% of the faculty had PhDs) or Prof. Surname. On the other hand, I also worked part-time at a job in the school's IT department while I was enrolled. Everyone there went on a first name basis with everyone else in the department, student and staff alike, so the difference there was the student/teacher relationship vs. the full-time staff/part-time student-staff relationship. The full-time staff all called the faculty by their titles too, unless they were really close.
Artistic-Fish1125@reddit
I didn't know the first names of many of my teachers.
gumdrop83@reddit
From PhD Comics. Most applicable in large research universities
https://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1153
marteautemps@reddit
This was a long time ago but in 7th grade I had a teacher who wanted to go by her 1st name, it lasted about 2 days and then she told us she wasn't allowed to do that. For part of high school I went to an "alternative" high school and it was all by 1st names but every regular public school it wasn't allowed no matter the teachers preference.
Queermagedd0n@reddit
Traditional public school is Mr./Ms./Mrs./Mx.
I went to an alternative public high school were it was far more relaxed: most teachers and administrators used their first name with students.
big_bob_c@reddit
In high school and below, it's pretty rare to call your teachers by their first name. Most colleges you call them "Professor", my undergraduate college was unusual in that professors were expected to be on a first name basis with the students.
Icy-Arm-2194@reddit
High school and below it will always be Mrs/Ms/Mr. Last name, and using a first name is unusual. Though coaches may be different. Calling someone Coach first name, wouldn't ne out of place.
College, they will tell you the first day how they want to be addressed. Some it is their first name, some it is dr last name, some it is dr first name.
Even as someone now in their 40s, I had a high school teacher say I can call her by her first name since i am no longer a student...I was like "that's ok Mrs last name".
elena_ct@reddit
I'm 30 and when I was in school, you would always call a teacher Ms. Smith or Mr, Smith. And it is like that for my kids now. It is just an honorific to give them a little more authority in the classroom.
tyoung89@reddit
Almost always Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms.
Some students will call them by their first name, but it’s usually either a student that is very close with that teacher, or a student doing it to be funny/disrespectful.
DooficusIdjit@reddit
Sometimes it’s Mr or Ms “first name.”
Professors? Absolutely not. It’s usually doctor, or at the least professor.
Corrid21@reddit
It’s very odd to call a teacher by his or her first name, especially in grade school. When I was in college (i.e., university), I’d call all the professors either Dr. [Name] or Professor [Name] when I wasn’t sure whether somebody had a doctorate or not.
Hell, even when I was a student researcher during undergrad, I’d always address the principal investigator (PI) as “Doctor,” even though he told me many times that he’s fine with being called by his first name. Calling teachers/professors by first name just feels wrong to me.
BusterBuddyGuy@reddit
It’s only first names in college.
Slight_Literature_67@reddit
Teachers were Mr./Ms./Mrs. Last name from K-12. In college/university, it was either Professor Last Name or the professor's first name, depending on the instructor.
PhotojournalistNew6@reddit
I barely knew any of my teachers first names. They got embarrassed if students found out.
SoStarstruckk@reddit
I’ve never done that.
Head_Razzmatazz7174@reddit
I only called a few college professors by their first names, but they were the ones who asked us to. Other than that, no. It was Mr./Mrs./Ms. Last Name.
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
I had a professor or two on college who used a first name, but that was it.
I think preschool teachers often use Mr./Ms. First Name, but I don't remember what mine used back in the 80s.
calicoskiies@reddit
Very uncommon. I’ve somehow made it all the way to grad school and have only had one teacher asked to be called by their first name.
ChipsAhoyMccoy14@reddit
There were a few teachers that I called by their first name in college but everybody else was by their last name.