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"Turkey is the new Iran" , ex PM of Israel is set to win the next elections. What do you think?

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"Turkey is the new Iran" , ex PM of Israel is set to win the next elections. What do you think?
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RasputinXXX@reddit

People who keep saying, "Israel would never attack Turkey". are idiots. Of course they wont. They will have other countries do their dirty work. Its not Turks have a lack of enmity around. Just pour some gasoline to the embers, and voila. Anyone noticed an increase of hostile declarations to turkey lately? EU, France etc?
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od3795486159601@reddit

I don't like Erdogan and I don't like Turkey. Israel however is very obviously doing its best to fan the flames of the mutual animosity between Greece and Turkey. If they succeed, they'll have hit two birds with one stone. They'll have destroyed both of us. Turkey would no longer block their expansion and Greece will simply be a few purchases away from pretty much being Israeli land. This is already beginning to happen, by the way. Israelis are buying land in Greece (and Cyprus) en masse.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Exactly, you don’t have to like the Turkish government, even people/culture. I don’t care. We don’t have to fight each other. Our generation seems to forget how brutal war is. What even is there to fight? Lets say France, Israel, Greece axis won the war. Turkey is destroyed. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna deport millions of people? Are you gonna ethnically cleanse western turks? What is the game plan? Same goes for Turkey. War in the 21st century is plain stupid with nothing to gain. There are some external players trying to make us forget that.
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od3795486159601@reddit

We don't have to fight each other. But even if we did (which we don't) it should be our business and no one else's.
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Ineverything@reddit

This is the honored Greeks we Turks see as rival not as enemy. Respect to you.
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Available_Bus_9010@reddit

People call themselves Turks, but after doing my own research, I realized that many of us carry only a small percentage of Central Asian Turkic ancestry, while the rest of our genetics trace back to Anatolian, Aegean, and Middle Eastern populations. In many ways, this connects us deeply to the ancient peoples of Anatolia, including the Hellenic world. I also realized that, both genetically and culturally, I feel closer to a Hellenic and Anatolian identity. Sadly, most people either don’t know about this history or simply don’t care. What’s even sadder is that our peoples were turned into assimilated brothers raised to see each other as enemies. I hope one day more people in both Greece and Türkiye openly learn and talk about this shared history.
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BedroomUnusual@reddit

No one can attack you but us malaka ❤️ even in hate, there is love.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷
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happybaby00@reddit

Eastern Thrace returns to Greece and Bulgaria, hagia Sofia is no longer a mosque.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Are you willing to die for this?
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happybaby00@reddit

If it starts, yes. NATO isn't triggering article 5 for turkey over Israel even if the latter starts it, let's be honest.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Good luck dying for some stupid grudge then.
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Krisorder2point0@reddit

Anti-semtic trope masked as anti-Israelism
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Israelis slamming the anti-semitics label when they are getting called out for things they do. Please give me something new. Everybody is tired of your shit.
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Krisorder2point0@reddit

The anti-semitic part is assuming Israel is trying to heat up tension between Greece and Turkey - a conflicting older than the state of Israel - is a reality and not some stupid conspiracy. Israel doesn't have the option and resources to do that, there have been no statements, and the Greek government is already hostile enough to turkey. Also some bullshit about Israelis buying land in Greece - alluding to them stealing the land by somehow buying it?! Again not a thing that happens and some bullshit spread by bots years ago.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Why would assuming Israel is doing covert operations be anti-semitic? Almost all countries accuse each other with similar things and israel has a well documented past doing it again and again. Mossad being one of the most influential and effectual agencies in the world isn’t a secret. It’s at worst a plausible conspiracy theory.
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Krisorder2point0@reddit

Because it's compelte bullshit and uses the old anti-semitic accusation of Jews being able to "divide and conquer" everyone and they can't be trusted allies and friends. Good thing the Greek government is not stupid and understands Israel is a crucial friend in a future standoff with the Turks who openly state they want to expand their borders.
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BicycleOutrageous508@reddit

Give me one example of something negative that Israel has done that wont be claimed to be anti-semitic by you.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Turkey never stated that they wanted to expand their borders. Thats not a turkish policy. Thats an israili policy, so stop projecting. Turkey has been helping the children you guys trying to eradicate from the face of the earth. Do not come here and talk to me with a sense of moral superiority. You are the only country left with explicit racism in their law. You are the only country still doing genocide in 21. Century. Everybody is well aware of your settlers in west bank. Everybody is well aware what you are trying to do in gaza. Everybody is well aware how you used the Syrian civil war to expand your borders. Everybody is well aware how you invaded Lebanon again. Turkey on the other hand hasn’t grew their borders by 1 inch since the establishment of the republic in 1923. Do not even try that shit.
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DependentReview2916@reddit

The only country responsible for fanning the flames between Israel and Turkey is Erdogan. Are we just we going to pretend that Turkey didn't destroy its relationship with Israel because of Gaza? How Erdogan literally does this in a daily basis by using Islam for his populist goals. Erdogan keeps threatening Israel by saying “Just as we entered Karabakh… Libya… we might do the same to them.” or when Turkey invites Hamas to Ankara and offering them political support. But when Israel responds to this animosity, suddenly they are the ones picking a fight with Turkey lol. Israel doesn't need a huge boogeyman to keep existing, their neighbors do a bang up job keeping Israel societally strong. It is Sultan Erdogan who constantly has the need to glaze and pretend to be the vanguard of Muslims while shaking hands with zionists behind the curtains. And people are stupid enough to fall for it. I wish for Turkey to suffer a thousand more Erdogans in their lifetime inshallah.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Don’t talk about stuff you have no idea on the internet you look stupid
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DependentReview2916@reddit

Debate my points then
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ChaosKeeshond@reddit

People aren't noticing. And when the propaganda works, in five years time people will pretend they *always* thought Turkey needed invading.
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DoNotCommentAgain@reddit

What do you think public opinion of Turkey is in western nations?
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Ordinary-Resort9249@reddit

Free Byzantium from occupation - soon.
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Falcao1905@reddit

Reddit crusaders think that Europeans are heathens as well so that doesn't matter too much.
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DoNotCommentAgain@reddit

Plenty in western Europe. It's been really interesting to see the comments in this thread, you're all quite unaware of western perception of Turkey and have all assumed I'm American. I'll give you an example; one of the points talked about frequently during Brexit was Turkey trying to join the EU. That alone is a deal breaker for most of Europe which is why they'll never be allowed in. The majority of Turks posting in this subreddit are probably not even Balkan, it's mental that their opinions are even considered here.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro but as someone have been working on eu politics for a long time, Turkey will join Eu. One day or another. Turkey has deep military cooperation with almost all major european countries. Turkey and EU has deep trade relationships, with now a lot ot them seeing Turkey positively. I understand people like you exist, but you are a minority. Turkey isn’t a threat to EU and even if Turkey doesn’t join the EU in the short term, it’s a major EU ally.
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ChugHuns@reddit

Isn't the real concern about Turkiye joining the EU have to do with immigration? I think the powers that be in WE are concerned about immigration from MENA countries becoming even easier than now and being flooded with migrants. Is this on your radar?
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

I am pretty sure migration is a pretty small concern. In the last 2 years a lot of Turkish people even started moving back. People that want to move finds a way, it’s not that hard. I personally moved to germany to study my bachelors and stayed. It’s more about policies and attitude of the current government. Anti-democratic sentiments, refusing to continue necessary reforms etc. And of course some countries like Greece that would take a lot of convincing not to veto, but i am sure if it came down to it, Turkey with a proper government, with all the necessary eu reforms wouldn’t have much problem left.
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interiordiavolo@reddit

Its mental that Turks lives rent free in your head. Please get some help and talk with people
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

I don’t think those stuff is serious. Turkey has some ottoman memes pop up here and there to, nobody would literally go and fight with each other. The question is simple, what are you gonna do with millions of people living there. If in some weird scenario greece takes Turkish Thrace, population becomes 50% 50%. I don’t even wanna talk about istanbul, it woukd probably like 80% turkish majority.
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RaviDrone@reddit

As a Greek I can assure you invading another country is out of the question. Even the military oath is for defending only. It doesn't cover invading.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Bro Turkeys founding principals doesn’t allow for an offensive war. Ataturk has a famous line about it. Peace at home, peace in the world.
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magnificent_wts@reddit

A chad country with that on their foreseeable future would preemptively invade Israel. Just saying, not suggesting. Although it would be great. So great
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LibertyChecked28@reddit

If that ever happens they will force their American puppy [to kickstart that the nuclear war against the rest of the world that was promised to them 3000 years ago](https://joshuafund.com/learn/latest-news/war_of_gog_magog-2/) (Warning for severly schizoid NGO BS) and make Isreal $h!tting its pants everyone elses problem.
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ChugHuns@reddit

Chad Israel war is not what I expected but here we are lol
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writebyhand@reddit

So long as it's Christian in the end, not much else matters.
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jboggin@reddit

The EU and France might have released some strongly worded statements about Turkey, but those are baby steps compared to the marathon they've run to condemn Israel. A bunch of EU countries have cut most financial ties with Israel. Turkey might not be popular with the EU right now, but they're a hell of a lot more popular than Israel. At this point, Israel is basically a pariah state with the US as its only ally.
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Krillin113@reddit

Europe at large doesn’t like Erdogan and his power structures. Haven’t for close to 20 years. Also don’t like the Turkish presence on Cyprus. The population also doesn’t like Bibi, zionists or the idf. Europe isn’t even willing to fight Iran. They also won’t be willing to fight Turkey unless Turkey invades European countries.
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aasfourasfar@reddit

In what world would France or the EU attack Turkey for the sake of Israel who they have more and more trouble tolerating
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OddBreadfruit195@reddit

A few das ago, Von der leyen talked about China, Russia, and Turkey influencing the EU. This implies she sees Turkey as a threat comparable to these 2 countries.
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Professional-Log-108@reddit

As if EU hostility towards Turkey wasn't natural and obvious. Turkish troops are quite literally occupying a piece of EU territory right now, and they are constantly threatening to invade Greek islands, which are also EU territory. Why should anyone be expected to like their invader? And let’s not forget Turkey constantly plays along with Putin's schemes. Sending through millions of migrants to destabilise the EU, telling Ukraine to surrender and so on. Turkey is not a friend of the EU
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puzzledpanther@reddit

You think EU or France is going to attack Turkey? That's a pretty insane take and you really need to get out of your bubble. Israel has beef with Turkey but there's not going to be armed conflict imo. It's just fearmongering.
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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

Syria and lebanon are already invaded by israel, there isnt much that'd prevent a joint action of US, EU & israel against Turkey
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puzzledpanther@reddit

Delusional. Why would the EU attack Turkey?
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GayBaklava@reddit

EU will do what Israel and US wants. They would attack Luxembourg if Israel wanted it.
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>EU will do what Israel and US wants. Is that why EU is helping out with IRAN?
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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

Maybe as a result of provocation. Taking any chance from Turkey to be offended by whateven ersogan spews. France is already preparing european folks by spewing provocational propaganda, how long until brussel does too? Not saying it will happen tomorrow, but not recognizing any chance is naive.
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aasfourasfar@reddit

How did Syria and Lebanon not being invaded protect Turkey anw?
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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

More space between israel & Turkey = less chance of success for an invasion. An invasion also means seizing land, if the israeli ground troops cant enter Turkish territory, they cant seize it.
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aasfourasfar@reddit

Mate theyre a few kilometers inside Syria. It changes nothing on its capacity to invade Turkey, which Israel definitely doesn't have considering the size of this shitty state
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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

A breach of syrian borders means that syria is still trrritorially malleable. Meaning that theres nothing that'd stop israel from further inching towards the Turkish border since if they WERE stoppable, they'd already be dealt with much sooner. The fact that they're still in syria means that syria as a state failed to protect itself and thus its at the mercy of the israeli military. Theres no war in syria. So theres no excuse to why they'd let israel breach their territory without repercussions. Whats gonna happen if syria permitts israel to reach Turkey consentually?
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Lmao I remember when people said that about Iran. Syria is on the table and even if Turkey gives it up, I promise you Israel is eyeing eastern Turkey regardless
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saltedsnail2@reddit

Certainly nothing is off the table for Israel or the US but Europe would never attack Turkey. Europe is not attacking Iran they're staying out of it.
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Impossible_Nail_3967@reddit

Turkey has invaded Europe before many times lol. I wouldn't mind EU invading them for a chance 💪
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

🤓
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Do you think Greece would tell the US they aren’t allowed to use their bases against Turkey?
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saltedsnail2@reddit

I think that Greece would do whatever the European Union tells them to do. So yes, they would be forced to. I also hope that Europe would defend Turkey as they're obligated to do.
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Yeah I’d bet on the opposite of that. No one is sending shit to support Turkey. And partly because Turkey has been a shitty neighbour that may have outlived its usefulness. Boot up Duolingo and start learning Yiddish maybe?
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saltedsnail2@reddit

Yeah, defending Turkey may not be realistic but it does make strategic sense if they ever hope to stop Israeli and US aggression.
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

I think Israel would stop there. Greece is Israel’s ally basically. And they cant just conquer the whole world. If I was a betting man I’d bet on Turkey being the last of the promised land.
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New_Parking9991@reddit

thats ridiculous, we are not in an alliance with Israel. We are not bound to join their wars, we are litarally in NATO and did not join any of US's wars in ME or the bombings in Balkans. Why would we join Israel war? Israel was a much closer ally to Turkey, and especially Azerbaijan. We just find oppurtunity to buy defense systems and also agreed for training. There is no alliance style NATO where we are obligated to help israel in any way. Greek have no promised land and got no aspriation of gaining Turkish land, the treaties are clear, its Turkey that got different opinion. if war with Israel and Turkey breaks out we will grab pop corn and prolly help people that flee/refugees. If Turkey calls nato article then we will prolly help them. It will depend on how other allies react as well, we will follow common EU stance on this.
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e9967780@reddit

Are sure, “We will return”. Greek sentiments about western Anatolia is baked into the global psyche, not sure about contemporary Greece.
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PrincipleKitchen394@reddit

Do you think greece would live to tell the tale if they did that
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yeswhat111@reddit

Do you think that attacking EU will end well for Turkey?
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Nope. And honestly the current government would be happy to help the us and Israel.
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puzzledpanther@reddit

> I promise you Israel is eyeing eastern Turkey regardless What would they do with eastern Turkey? How would they keep it?
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MartinBP@reddit

This sub is populated by diaspora ultranationalists and left-wing Yugo-nostalgics. Yes, they do actually think that NATO/EU/"the West" are preparing to destroy their glorious god-given nation. Same argument Putin used to invade Ukraine to stop "the NATO nazi regime".
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StunningComment6064@reddit

France? Tell us more?
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GayBaklava@reddit

France recently said they would join Greece against Turkey if “there would be a war break out between the two”. This happened when there is no active conflict between the two and even east Mediterranean tensions cooled down. Only thing it coincides with is Israeli politicians declaring Turkey the new Iran
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Southern-Dish1485@reddit

i am not sure why do you want to imply that eu countries are working for israel because they denounce turkey backwardedness... turkey has so many flaws, it would never be able to compete with advanced societies, with modern countries that legalized same-sex marriage. turkey at most can compete with african and middle east countries.
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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

I could see Israel arming Kurdish seperatist groups against Turkey, they did this in Syria and Iraq.
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ShikaStyleR@reddit

Good! Free Kurdistan 
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Abigail_Blyg@reddit

Yeah! Let’s create a second Israel in the Middle East. 🥰🥰
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ChaosKeeshond@reddit

I'm not even against the *principle* of it, but the fact of the matter is that separatist-leaning MPs don't win in Turkey in Kurdish majority regions anyway. Turkish Kurds consistently vote for MPs that advocate for Kurdish interests within the context of Turkish nationhood. Westerners keep getting it in their heads that Kurds are a monolithic hivemind. They never speak to actual Turkish Kurds. Self-determination means self-determination. And sometimes, people determine they'd rather remain Turkish-Kurds than end up thrown into a brand new unstable war-torn landlocked Kurdish nation with no economy, no security, no infrastructure, and *they don't even speak the same fucking language because there are several Kurdish languages*. Overruling the will of Turkish Kurds by insisting their will is grouped together with all other Kurds is the same bullshit 'lines carved through badly drawn maps' phenomenon from the 20th century, but applied ethnically and socially rather than geographically.
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Oriokoliss@reddit

There is no "turkish" Kurds, nor iraqi Kurds or arab Kurds. Kurds are Kurds. Turks, arabs or iranians can't tell anything about who are the Kurdish people. turkey, syria and iran claiming Kurdish people is funny.
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Foreign-Building8231@reddit

That's not correct statement. First part is referring nationality, Turkish, Iraq, Syria etc. second part is ethnicity. I don't understand even simple logic too hard to understand.
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Oriokoliss@reddit

Kurds are Kurds and punctum. turkish and arab bots can bark on internet claiming Kurdish people.
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

Im a Kurd and i like living in Turkey, you wont change that fact lmfao
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Oriokoliss@reddit

I was recently on an Iranian community where they talked about Kurds and they had the same shit propaganda as you turks, claiming Kurds as "a part of iranian people" or "Kurds will fight for iran...". The same shit.
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

I love how you cant accept the fact that we arent that interested in independence here, We got Erdoğan giving us Islamic Benefits while screwing over thenon muslim Turks, so were cool
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Oriokoliss@reddit

This comment proves you are turk who say "Erdogan destroy Kurdish identity but turks are fine with this".
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Oriokoliss@reddit

There are milions of Kurds in iraq, milions of Kurds un iran, there are Kurds in Syria, what about comunities of Kurds from Kazahstan, Armenia, Azerbaijian, Germany, the West countries. Arabs, iranians and turks claiming the identity of Kurdish people is a joke. Kurdish people belong to Kurdistan. You as turk you can't talk for 40 milion of Kurds, 30 milions who live outside of Bakur Kurdistan.
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

I literally can speak for alot of Kurds in TURKEY, BECUASE I AM ONE, and i literally see first hand that alot of us are very much ok being in Turkey still, Cuz our other Option, which is "Independence", is led by the PKK, who did literalcterrorism and kidnapping
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Oriokoliss@reddit

I literally speak about ALL KURDS, ALL KURDS FROM BASHUR, ALL KURDS FROM ROJHALAT, ALL KURDS FROM ROJAVA. Over 30 milion of Kurds outside of Bakur, so you turks claiming Kurdish people is shit.
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

Kurd from Turkey here, literally yes. We dont ant statehood, we want Politicians that have our interests INSIDE Turkey, Being our own nation just makes us an easy target to be Stoolies for Israel
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ShikaStyleR@reddit

What about the Kurds in Iraq, Syria and Iran?
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Oriokoliss@reddit

Kurdish language has dialects as kurmanji, sorani, zaza, etc. Any language, like turkish, has several dialects. My Romanian language also has 4 dialects. These are dialects related to one language, not diferent languages.
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

Kurd here, we wont be Israel's bootlicker
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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

You want to create another ethnostate built on ethnjc cleansing and stolen lands? We don't need another Israel ![gif](giphy|Pk3ljzIDb4R0j3zpMU)
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ShikaStyleR@reddit

You mean like Turkey?
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AlternativeDizzy261@reddit

Turkey is etno state ?
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ShikaStyleR@reddit

Turkey have ethnically cleansed millions of Armenians, greeks and Assyrians in order to keep a majority of Muslim turks 
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AlternativeDizzy261@reddit

Turkey is founded in 1923 , in which year this so called ethnic cleaning happen ? You just defend anti turkish propaganda . By the way Turkey is no etno state its people is mixed
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yeswhat111@reddit

Then why do you use Ottoman Empire history as part of your identity? This is r/AskBalkans not r/randomWesternWelcomeRefugees. Please try to not insult our Balkan superior intelligence. $random_balkan_cursing
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ShikaStyleR@reddit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayfo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide
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lostarco@reddit

Wikipedia is your best source?
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yalnzaylak@reddit

supporting israel for your ethnostate? thats a new low man... https://preview.redd.it/urjszdxbqpyg1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=640be1ff80f8a36f799945c4f015090a6b392551
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villke@reddit

Kurds are collecting every possible feel for it again awards.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

They have been doing it for 50 years. Who do you think separatist groups in Turkey got their weapons from.
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Xpade16@reddit

it’s not impossible since there’s some history there, but doing that with Turkey involved would be really messy so I doubt it’d be that straightforward
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

Except Turkey has plenty experience to blast them to another dimension. Arming rag-tag groups works against developing nations. Turkey is a league above that. The drone industry leaves no room for escape and even if you shoot them down with manpads, more continue to come.
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CricketJamSession@reddit

History will teach you that every country that do not threat Israel is not threaten by Israel But you folks are not ready for that kind of independent thinking
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I_pinch_your_balls@reddit

What countries do you think would attack Turkey? Also, EU-Turkish relations have been bad for a decade, and Erdoğan contributed his fair share to it. Anyway, fuck Bennett and Netanyahu.
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RestaurantBoring417@reddit

Yeah, and who is gonna do that for them, huh? Greece? Lmao And btw it's Turkey's fault that their relation to the West is going bad since they are an islamist autocracy that tries to undermine the West by working together with Russia
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Fatalaros@reddit

Finally these countries noticed Turkey.
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trisul-108@reddit

I have noticed an escalation of hostile declarations about Israel coming from Turkey for over a decade. How is it you did not notice that? Furthermore, no one is going to attack Turkey, much less the EU or France doing it "for Israel". Be serious, this is completely ridiculous.
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Hezzyo@reddit

Remember when isis appeared and didnt attacked israel but attacked everyone else including other terror organisations? (They attacked 1 time and apologized lol). When some of their commanders were captured and turned to be mossad agents? Also rumours about them treating soldiers in hospitals to fight assad? You dont need to use a country,you can always do proxies like this and destabilize the region even more
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trisul-108@reddit

I am sure they were very careful not to threaten Israel, they did not want to get wiped out. I am also sure that Mossad tries to infiltrate all islamic movements. That is why they won all those wars that Arabs launched against them.
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vonPetrozk@reddit

No, I don't remember any ISIS leader being Mossad agent. Could you elaborate and provide sources?
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Hezzyo@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/wjco7lu6joyg1.png?width=791&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc23544286def246fd432ef154b6232fe476ec26 [https://www.sarahanews.net/923961-from-the-isis-industry-files-abu-hafs-al-israili-is-a-good-example/](https://www.sarahanews.net/923961-from-the-isis-industry-files-abu-hafs-al-israili-is-a-good-example/) [https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-11/ty-article-magazine/.premium/whats-wrong-how-israel-trained-and-armed-an-isis-linked-gazan-crime-militia/00000197-5aa3-deed-a9bf-5fef7d990000](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-11/ty-article-magazine/.premium/whats-wrong-how-israel-trained-and-armed-an-isis-linked-gazan-crime-militia/00000197-5aa3-deed-a9bf-5fef7d990000) there are more on browser but i cant post more images [https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wounded-syrian-rebels/](https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/11/exclusive-israel-is-tending-to-wounded-syrian-rebels/) [https://youtu.be/DLQc2dYikyU?si=UQGvK1w8cXlbVsNx](https://youtu.be/DLQc2dYikyU?si=UQGvK1w8cXlbVsNx) (here is the congress of us who said they gave direct or indirect aid to various organisations) [https://archive.is/aOlU1](https://archive.is/aOlU1) \- here shld be a report abotu us backed training Ofc if you search on mainstream media they ll say its a conspiracy theory or that ''gov didnt confirmed it'' ,but hey they deny a lot of things in which we also got video confirmation later and turned out to be opposite of what they said
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RasputinXXX@reddit

Not only from Turkey but from all over the world. Wonder why. Maybe got to do something everyone is noticing!? Hmm?
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DoNotCommentAgain@reddit

No one likes Turkey, they're only allowed a seat at the table because they control the Bosphorus Strait. They try to play all sides and now everyone hates them. They threw away the last piece of good will they had left when they attacked the Kurds in Syria fighting against ISIS and bought Russian anti aircraft missiles. As far as western nations are concerned they are the enemy we keep closer than our friends.
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Sulo1719@reddit

Do not comment again
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DoNotCommentAgain@reddit

Do not commit genocide again. Sorry forgot that's impossible for you.
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Fit-Medicine1583@reddit

Yea commuting genocide is his personal hobby bro
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Zrva_V3@reddit

Everyone hates you and Israel actually. You just live in your own bubble so you don't see it. Don't try supporting our decades long enemies next time regardless of the excuse and we won't demolish your proxies like we did to YPG in Syria.
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Abigail_Blyg@reddit

No geopolitical literacy in this comment right here
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calloutyourstupidity@reddit

Could it also be like because it is one of the strongest armies in the region ?
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KathenWalle6@reddit

Holy walking western propaganda. You watch too much bbc and fox news dont you?
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DoNotCommentAgain@reddit

Lmao at trying to discredit BBC
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Suspicious_Plum_8866@reddit

Why would Greece or France attack Turkey, Armenia probably has more enmity towards Turkey then those two combined lol
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Starfalloss@reddit

Good riddance they are getting a taste of their own medicine.
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kostence@reddit

This aggression towards Turkey is coming from Israel, a genocidal apartheid state, so Turks are very proud imho
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HugeSweatyHairyBalls@reddit

Then how come Arab Israelis can vote in Israel and become a doctor... politicians etc? Doesn't sound like an apartheid.
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kostence@reddit

Well, let a couple of them appear as token, then do whatever that filthy Talmud teaches to do, simply killing children.
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Sebajun7567@reddit

The irony… 🤦‍♂️😂
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kostence@reddit

I love when baseless accusations out of mass propaganda are perceived as funny😂
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Sebajun7567@reddit

Right. I’m sure the Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Laz, and all your country’s minorities will agree. Nevermind the fact that your people’s genocide of the Armenians and the Assyrians, was the whole reason in the first place that the term "genocide" even exists today. Not to even mention the fact that Hitler himself referenced it, in his Obersalzberg speech, August 22, 1939, as such: "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" Just a week shy of the invasion of Poland. Clearly, an inspiration.. Your people are no different than the nazis. But, I’m sure that it’s much easier to keep coping, that it’s just "lies" and "propaganda" from the "West," or whatever the hell you keep telling yourselves at the end of the day, so that you won’t have to face the fact that you’re a blight on humanity itself. Sleep well.
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kostence@reddit

I didn’t read the rest when I saw the first signs of that long lasting and baseless propaganda in whatever you write, good luck with your efforts to convince everyone for that matter. Start with Pashinian, he is among the deniers as well
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Sebajun7567@reddit

You can keep lying to yourself and calling it "propaganda" all you want, but at the end of the day, the only one spewing "propaganda" here is you. You should get used to, however, everyone hating and treating you like the pariah folk you are, if you keep actively trying to deny the existence of the multiple genocides and innumerous counts of ethnic cleansing perpetrated by your people, though. Because it’s not gonna stop, buddy. It’s just going to get worse.
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kostence@reddit

Ok, look, no sane person would ever go deep into an argument that has long been dictated without strong and sound evidence. Academia worldwide do not interfere, Turkey opened the archives for all researchers, still no evidence yet. I’m well aware of the economic and political benefits of urging a large military power into realm of shame, as successful done for Germany and Japan, still no one has proven large scale atrocities except for mass graves of Muslim Turks and Kurds which silenced a considerable number of allegations against Ottoman Turkey so far. I personally want to say, not against your idiotic arguments but for the chance of someone reading these, if Turks had decided to exterminate a group, ethnicity or population, not a single person would have survived that. The people you relentlessly cite above are still existing. So, I repeat, good luck with your agenda of smearing. Useless and futile.
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Sebajun7567@reddit

I’m not taking back my criticism of genocide denial, but I will admit I went too far with some of the stuff I said about Turkish people in general. That part was unfair. I still completely disagree with your argument, though. Calling everything "propaganda" doesn’t really address the actual historical evidence or why most genocide scholars recognize it in the first place. And "some Armenians survived" isn’t really a serious counterargument. No historian defines genocide as "every single person has to die or it didn’t happen." So yeah, I stand by my position on the history, just not the broader insults.
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kostence@reddit

Great, do stand with history and historians, and do tell your colleagues not to burn Stanford Shaw’s house down or condemn Justin McCarthy for they stood by the historical truth, and paid the price already. Btw I don’t bite the repeated lies being rammed into our throats, and I won’t.
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BouRock@reddit

Hope Greeks wont fall for this psychos. Israel probably would try to invade all Europe if it can
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Vesko85@reddit

The hatred toward Israel is so intense that people are starting to make up complete nonsense and fantasies. Maybe it’s time to stop for a moment and take a look at yourselves in the mirror.
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BouRock@reddit

have you ever checked what their politicians are saying?
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LibertyChecked28@reddit

That guy is Rad Lib with media fabricated opinion on Leadon and Palestine, don't even bother with him.
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jostyouraveragejoe2@reddit

israelis are not liked much in Greece and jews in general get a lot fo hate (unfortunatly) so i think it will be very difficult for them to do this.
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eddymeshgood@reddit

"unfortunately"? :D
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Believe me gulf countries didn’t like israel either and i am sure still don’t. Israelis just use your hate for the other country so they can use you as a pawn.
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>Hope Greeks wont fall for this psychos. Dude you are delusional. Why would Greece attack Turkey? What would that accomplish?
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BouRock@reddit

It doesnt have to directly attack. Think about UAE and other GCC in Iran war. If you host enemy installations and forces you get involved inevitably. Bytwy i dont thnk Israel and Türkşyw will go to war anyway, there might be some incursions in Syria only
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Adistaktos34@reddit

the only military installations that exist in Greece are those of Greece and the US. With what excuse will Turkey do what Iran did to the UAE? lol
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>Bytwy i dont thnk Israel and Türkşyw will go to war anyway, there might be some incursions in Syria only I agree.
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brainbigaaaooouuu@reddit

That would be honestly so sad because the only hatred I’ve seen since I was a kid always came from the governments on both sides and some dumb right wing trolls. The civilians always tell you that we have way more in common than differences. ​It would be better if Greece would protect Turkey alongside all the western neighboring countries because an unstable Turkey means the Middle East would border Greece directly if Turkey falls. You can think of them what you want but they control that area better than any other country could because they are used to it after so many anti terror operations and negotiations with groups no EU country would even notice.
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AlternativeDizzy261@reddit

TURKEY IS NOT FALLING BRO WHERE DID THAT COME FROM 86 million people , modernized nato standart army . Dont mistake Turks with arabs and persians .
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brainbigaaaooouuu@reddit

I didn't mean to offend you it was just hypothetical.
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AlternativeDizzy261@reddit

Okey danke bro
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longtermistCarrot@reddit

Yes. They are planning to invade all of the planet. /s. They are currently planning to invade even the stars of the galaxy too and alien civilizations as well.
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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

Europe was promised to them 3000 years ago
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Natopor@reddit

Oh well in that case there's nothing we can do /s
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goatstation@reddit

As Greek this is my biggest fear.Our goverment is a puppet of USA/Israel if Turkey and Israel go to war they will try to involve us for sure.Whenever there is tension between Israel and Turkey local media trying to remind us the Cyprus conflict or something about the balkan wars 100 years ago.
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ThingCandid9553@reddit

lol delusional
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Otherwise-Strain8148@reddit

So who is the new turkey then?
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Allrrighty_Thenn@reddit

Assuming Turkey is just countries on the list to be fucked with, Egypt will be the new Turkey while Turkey is the new Iran. Once they fuck with Turkey, then Egypt will be the new Iran
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Excellent-Schedule-1@reddit

Egypt is already the bottom in a relationship with Israel, meaning they’ve already gone off that list.
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Allrrighty_Thenn@reddit

Well, extra spanking is good, retake sinai and shit
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Excellent-Schedule-1@reddit

Why would they retake Sinai officially when instead they can control the whole country from behind the scenes/indirectly?
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Allrrighty_Thenn@reddit

To build settlements. To defend themselves.. idk.
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Excellent-Schedule-1@reddit

I think they will shift their focus towards Syria, especially since Turkey will try to meet them there. Syria is one of Turkey’s wildcards.
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Allrrighty_Thenn@reddit

This is the Turkey scenario lol
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liberalskateboardist@reddit

macedonia
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BrilliantHyena1215@reddit

easy Aizerbaijan
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Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit

Greece has taken the role that Turkey traditionally had in the region (in respect of NATO).
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Who-do-child@reddit

Tunisia
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jons98@reddit

You have 4 hours
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Sniffer23@reddit

To find out who the new Turkey is?
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jons98@reddit

Lmao yes I was just kidding
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ZemlyaNovaya@reddit

Kinda curious if Israeli animosity towards Turkey (and vice versa) would continue if Turkey voted in a different government as well. After all, this deterioration of relations appears to stem more from Erdogan and Netanyahu’s personal disconnect rather than actual disputes between Turkey and Israel. In fact I’m pretty sure Israel and Turkey legit had good relations before these two fossils took office. Either way Turkey would clap Israel unless zios somehow manage to scam Greece into a war with Turkey though. I pray for peace and prosperity in the Balkans as always, may the sane minds prevail.
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

Israel is trying to steal lands from everyone. Every government would oppose them.
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MartinBP@reddit

You're literally occupying and settling an EU country right now.
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cagriuluc@reddit

European takes on Cyprus never cease to amaze me in their one-sidedness
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

When everyone in the room says you are wrong.... Maybe you are?
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mistRbit@reddit

In what kind of world are you living? Hoping for world war and endless destruction. Do you ever look in the mirror?
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cagriuluc@reddit

The fact that you consider military action against northern Cyprus, let alone wishing for the contemporary genocider to declare war in their war for land and.. genocide… I think I will pass on listening to you (maybe I should also generalise and not listen to any Bulgarians, huh…)
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

There are literally comme ts here from Turks saying how it's bad of Israel for wanting parts of Turkey, while you sit on almost half of Cyprus. You are either insanely nasty or insanely stupid to say this about Israel with what you are doing in Cyprus
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cagriuluc@reddit

What the hell do you think we are doing in cyprus????? The Turkish operation ENDED the bloodshed on the island. Nothing ever happens there in terms of military or racial violence. Turkey has decided to segregate the island, which is basically a population exchange in the style of the peace treaty and Greece after the Turkish independence war. It is debatable whether there was a better way to intervene against the racial violence that resulted in the war, but it was far from a knee-jerk reaction or an attempt at land grab. It was a decade of racial tensions and violence before that. Now there is peace and stability. Also… What do you think Turkey does in Northern Cyprus? We do not have control over that territory politically. They have been self governing for 50 years. They are not a Belarus. They are HEAVILY dependent on us because who else they have to turn to? Receiving immigration is normal for a “European” nation, but because Europe thinks nothing of Northern Cyprus or Northern Cypriots, they can only receive immigration from Turkey! Then it is “Turkey is settling into occupied lands”…. There were attempts, you know, to unify the island. Southern Cyprus was the one that rejected the Annan plan, and then they didn’t try at all after that since they got into the EU, since they thought they have all the advantage against the northerners which isnt even recognised by anyone let alone being a part of an international organisation like the EU. This is enemy mentality. You want Cyprus to conquer a land and a people.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

Colonizing it. You imported legit 400k Anatolian Turks lol. >There were attempts, you know, to unify the island Where Turkey refused to send back the colonists. Demanded a permanent large Turkish military force on the island. Demanded a rotating government system where the Island would be at times Turkish ruled. Refused to give back all the stolen houses. Send all the colonists back, give the houses back, then come to the table. The Greeks would agree to reunification instantly.
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KillerPalm@reddit

> Cyprus was 15% Turkish in 1970. If you want to reunify, send the colonists home. It was between 18 and 20%. Never as low as 15%. At least get the most basic facts right if you want to be taken seriously.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

18% not being 15% is a game changer, meanwhile Turks refusing to explain how peace keeping = importing colonists is ok is somehow forgiveable. This is why the whole world doesn't recognize north Cyprus btw.
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KillerPalm@reddit

It is actually if you want any people to take you seriously at least know the most basic of facts. Why should anyone listen to you if you can’t even get that right?
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

Keep talking though. Israel are getting in bed with Cyprus, and they don't like what Turkey are doing/saying in the middle East. With any luck the issue might have a solution in the next couple of decades. One slip up from Turkey and you'll have Israel/Greece/USA/France/UK breathing down your necks. We'll see what the "it's ok to take by force" Turkish opinions say about that.
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KillerPalm@reddit

I'm Turkish Cypriot, how but nice of you to advocate for my annihilation. I guess we're just animals who deserved to be wiped out right?
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

You edited the comment. No I think Israel are completely wrong repeatedly taking land in the West Bank.
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KillerPalm@reddit

And yet you're fine with them attacking me.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

The Israelis?
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

Not your annihilation, simply giving the Island back to its owners. No, no one deserves to be killed. But the Greeks deserve their houses back in the North, as do the Turks deserve their houses back in the South. If Turkey refuses to remove it's military and deport colonists, what other choice is there?
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KillerPalm@reddit

> Not your annihilation, simply giving the Island back to its owners. So me. Or are us Turkish Cypriots invaders too? You're an idiot if you think the Israelis, French or whoever attacks will try and differentiate between me and mainland Turks. An attack will be the destruction of my people and you're here advocating for it. Horrid person, I clearly see you value GC lives over mine.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

15 to 18 isn't a huge deal. Why should anyone listen to Turks if they refuse to explain why colonizing Cyprus is ok, but simultaneously complain about Israel?
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cagriuluc@reddit

lol just take İstanbul as collateral bro
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koltuklanmis_kargi@reddit

>You imported legit 400k Anatolian Turks lol. The claim you've made being wrong aside, the word "import" is used for goods and commodities, and it is dehumanizing to use it for people. Especially so in an island with a history of ethnic conflict. It reflects your sick soul pretty well.
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koltuklanmis_kargi@reddit

>You imported legit 400k Anatolian Turks lol. The claim you've made being wrong aside, the word "import" is used for goods and commodities, and it is dehumanizing to use it for people. Especially so in an island with a history of ethnic conflict. It reflects your sick soul pretty well.
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sikevux@reddit

Can’t we just give the whole island to Iceland or something? Play nice or some random small country gets your territory.
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ayfint@reddit

Two words: EOKA B
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ThatOneCloneTrooper@reddit

Both sides spilled blood. Plus the British won't leave either despite being told to. And UN is happy to have some "eyes" to operate out of near the middle east too. The world could end tomorrow and people still won't leave that island.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

British have not been told to leave by Cypriot government. British have not imported 400,000 colonists.
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kekobang@reddit

Get aerial assaulted, nerd.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

Crazy not a single Turkish person has been able to answer why it's ok for them to import so many Turks. Meanwhile they cry about Israel, the hypcrosy is unreal.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Because it’s not a real question. It’s a greek talking point. Nobody imported anything, contrary to what you read on your propaganda media. People are allowed to move wherever they want. People wanted to move there and make a life. In turkey, Cyprus isn’t scene as some occupied territory. People go there to find a job, study, live their lives. Who are you to tell them what to do? What kind of authority do you have?
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

Propaganda media? Turkey has stolen half a country. Or are you saying people can just go take half of turkey and everything is ok?
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Who’s country? Nobody stole anything. There is just a clear border between two peoples living there. Turkey doesn’t control a single inch of cyprus.
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TesticleSandwiches@reddit

The Cypriot's country. Who are about 85% Greek. Ok then the Turkish military should just get off the island then.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Turkish military is there defending it’s ally who is getting threatened by you every other day. Just as greek forces defend southern Cyprus. Cyprus theirs as yours. They represent about a third of the population and a third of the land what is the problem? Are you still said you guys didn’t get to ethnically cleanse Cyprus as you did in balkans?
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ThatOneCloneTrooper@reddit

Why is it ok for Turks to send Turks to land they believe is Turkish? It's like asking why are Brits sending Brits to land they believe is British (like Gibraltar for example)? I'm not even Turkish and that's a nothing point.
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New_Parking9991@reddit

because cypriot land was promised to them ....but of course it is very different than Israel.
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

They just believe whatever they are told. Easiest spoon fed story must be true because it agrees with my world view!
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lignadis@reddit

That tends to happen when a third party (junta Greece) tries to murder the head of state of Cyprus and starts killing Turkish civilians
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Lux_Tenebris_@reddit

This is literally first time I hear a Greek say this. You are amazing, no sarcasm I'm dead serious. I really wish for us to never have any conflict again in future.
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lignadis@reddit

We are brothers, we shouldn't excuse the shitty behaviour of both our governments trying to divide us <3
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Lux_Tenebris_@reddit

Yea brother, fuck them both. They are just thinking about the elections and not thinking how much we can achieve if we work together. How much prosperity we can bring to Eastern Mediterrain. We nearly have no difference just one is Christian and other is Muslim majority shouldn't be impossible to live in peace together and even cooperate for good stuff for our geography and the goodness of our people. Always seen Greeks as brothers especially after seeig how much friendly they were when I was in Greece even tho they knew I'm Turkish. Hope one day we both get rid of this stupid foreign policies of our governments. Peace <3
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

there is a pretty large difference between immigration and genocidal occupation.
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curb-stomp-a-tankie@reddit

Literally no one recognizes the TRNC, Turks are unironically this image https://preview.redd.it/gt5ztnjte9zg1.jpeg?width=349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d444ae50182d37e1d781c5d66128a8ac623c1d49
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

Lol are we still there? Turkish Cypriots are a standalone group, despite Erdoğan's meddling. They will never go away despite the orthodox priests' genocidal attempts. Just move on
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curb-stomp-a-tankie@reddit

Okay using your logic there’s no point expelling Israeli settlers out of the West Bank, they will never go, just move on
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

It's fine they can stay, they just need to be persecuted for genocide
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psychedelic_13@reddit

Literally all of the country you settle is stolen from the Turks around 100 years ago, give us your country back, then we let north cyprus independent, deal?
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Itchy-Engineering440@reddit

This. They already want parts of Turkey.  So no matter what, they will create a made up reason to start attacking Turkey. They are literal mafia. 
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WigglySchlong@reddit

Which parts of Turkey do they want
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mufurber@reddit

Google "Arzı Mevud"
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an27725@reddit

Turks literally live on stolen land. Turks came out of western China and stole Anatolia, the original colonial settlers. As a Turk you should know this and stop pointing fingers at others.
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

Lol stolen land bullshit. That's every human then
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an27725@reddit

I didn't say it's a bad thing, just pointing out the hypocrisy to call one country a colonial settler when you've done it yourself, as did most of our ancestors. Normally people that say this think "back then it was ok but now it's not" - but that's basically saying "when we did it it was ok but now we don't want anyone else to do it". Most Turks are really hypocritical about this topic because they invaded Anatolia and throughout centuries killed and kicked out the Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, etc and still do with Kurds who are much more native to the land than Turks would ever be - but then they go and say shit like this about Israel. Kurds are to this land what Palestinians are to that.
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Lux_Tenebris_@reddit

Bro seriously you know we are actually genetically Anatolian right? And yes as a Turkish I'm really sad for people who are forced to immigrate (Turkish, Greek, Armenian doesn't matter). But you can't compare us with Israelis at all. Not a fan of my government aswell but Natenyahu government is a whole new level
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

Again, you assume just because we speak Turkish that we are somehow purebred. Anatolia is a melting pot of genetics, we didn't kick anyone out. I grew up with Armenians and Jews for neighbors
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an27725@reddit

You're correct about the mixing with the locals hence the genetic diversity of modern Turks but to say you didn't kick anyone out is quite hilarious. Armenian genocide and forced exodus, Greek population exchange, Thrace pogroms, Dersim massacre, etc.
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

greek exchange was both sides. my family was exiled form crete. armenian conflict is very much debatable in terms of who killed whom. dersim and the following kurdish problems is regretable but kurds will always be the whipping boy from west, turkey, iran, syria.
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Itchy-Engineering440@reddit

You most probably think Science don't exist.  Turkish people are Anatolians.
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an27725@reddit

Read a book buddy.
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Itchy-Engineering440@reddit

No wonder you don't even know what science mean. Next you will deny genetics and say DNA is some sort of magic.  Go educate yourself 
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

There are 600 million Turks in the world! Noooo it's just a cultural and language thing, they are not related! We've lived in Anatolia for 15k years! Noooo you walked over from central Asia!
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an27725@reddit

This is the most delusional statement I've ever heard. That's as true Americans saying they've been living in North America for thousands of years because they took over that land and mixed with the natives. On one hand Turks are like "we are so strong, Alp Arslan defeated the Byzantines and we conquered Anatolia" but also "we are native to this land". Pick a lane buddy.
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Final-Nebula-7049@reddit

that's the whole point of the post. any lane is wrong in western eyes. i personally think i'm anatolian mix and have very little in common with central asia. i have european features, cultuer, etc. but anytime we pick a side, we are told we are actually the other side.
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Itchy-Engineering440@reddit

Yeah man, their hypocrisy is unreal. 
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enesulken@reddit

listen brother i'm not even near the correct guy to talk about this but its really simple logic. if theres a god and he didn't make the earth yesterday as it were, your ancestors did also fight for their land and spilled blood. like holy fuck y'all must be an idf agent or something.
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FatherMozgus@reddit

Occupying settlers vs occupying settlers, who wins? The rest of the world, probably.
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GayBaklava@reddit

Israel does not want any large and functional country around it, that’s the long term goal. Their doctrine is basically “even if they are friendly today they can turn enemies in future so it’s best to ensure there are no countries lying around that can measure up to me even if they wanted to”.
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Mountain-Yard-928@reddit

You forget that Syria is now Turkey's satellite, and that is a huge reason for animosity.
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Even if Turkey gives up Syria, I doubt they are off the list. They are going for everything they can get, and I don’t think anyone would step in to help Turkey.
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Firestrike9@reddit

You guy us are unhinged a country the size of a fucking ant makes you guys shit in your pants with your made up “Greater Israel” propaganda. It was funny if it wasn’t sad.
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AlternativeDizzy261@reddit

Pakistan
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dante_55_@reddit

I don’t think ‘scam’ is the right word here. We want full drilling rights for the oil in the Aegean Sea and we’ve been arming ourselves for war with Turkey over it anyway. I don’t see how war can be avoided in the long run and the best way to do it is if Israel also attacks. Source: I’m Greek
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goatstation@reddit

''Full drilling rights'' lol Greek people will gain nothing , if we go to war will be for the drilling righs of Shell,Chevron,Exxon etc no for ours
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dante_55_@reddit

Everyone will get their percentage and everyone will be happy
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ToyrkaEisaiGiaRomia@reddit

Yeah war always makes everyone happy. I call all this bullshit.
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dante_55_@reddit

The Jews will give us loans it will be fine. We’ll pay them back with the oil money once we win
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Key_Witness7016@reddit

With which oil?
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dante_55_@reddit

The one well drill from the Aegean Sea after the war, pay attention
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Key_Witness7016@reddit

There is no oil in aegean worth fighting. İf there were it was already being drilled.
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dante_55_@reddit

Of course there is, don’t be silly
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

We can talk about it when you turk 18 lil bro
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ToyrkaEisaiGiaRomia@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/lxe3rzrdwpyg1.png?width=779&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cc24a269b9af0d67eec6a12c36015656fcc961a
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Key_Witness7016@reddit

How about you getting your percentage of defeat. Hope you did consider it as well
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dante_55_@reddit

Obviously that’s a possibility. I guess there’s only one way to find out
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Killabeezz999@reddit

It's not just Netanyahu and Erdogan. Israel wants to expand and Turkey is next road block that needs to be destroyed after Iran. So it doesn't matter who is in power in either state.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Greater Israel is Nazi propaganda supported by a few fringe psychos like Ben Gvir & Smotrich. And even then the borders of this supposed "Greater Israel" are disputed even among it's supporters
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Good goy
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Killabeezz999@reddit

"Fringe " Lol. Those two are ministers and key part of the ruling coalition. Plus it's not just them. Israel is crazy terrorist state. Only diffrence in opinion is how to achieve greater Israel, not if they should go down that road.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

>Those two are ministers and key part of the ruling coalition. Yeah, so ? Erdoğan is a neo-Ottomanist who invaded many countries in the region. Does that mean all of Turkey wants the Ottoman Empire back ? >Plus it's not just them. Israel is crazy terrorist state. Only diffrence in opinion is how to achieve greater Israel, not if they should go down that road. Uhu. That's why Israel offered the most compromises while the Arabs almost always said no to every offer that wasn't "Muslim Arab state from Jordan to the Mediterranean" ? Puh lease!
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mehwhateverrrrr@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/353w2vriusyg1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4abd567a673cdf845875564efae4e2cf936fd0a6
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LastHomeros@reddit

Many countries? Turkey withdrew all of its troops from Syria. I don’t know which country you are talking about.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Syria, Iraq, North Africa, Caucasus (not direct intervention but support for it's proxy in Azerbaijan).
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LastHomeros@reddit

Did Turkey invade those countries to incorporate them into a larger Turkish empire? Supporting friendly regimes is something every country does to protect its national interests. Romania supports Moldova, Greece supports Armenia, Cyprus, and Serbia, etc., etc. Just because Turkey has more reach to different regions due to its historical and cultural ties, it doesn’t make them an invader, but rather a fortunate country. I am sure Romania would have done the same—actively engaging with other regions—if it had more political influence.
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Ok-Club-7675@reddit

>Turkey has more reach to different regions due to its historical and cultural ties, it doesn’t make them an invader, but rather a fortunate country. What cultural or historical ties does Turkey have? It's a "fortunate" invader country. >I am sure Romania would have done the same—actively engaging with other regions—if it had more political influence. Only Turkey has this talent.
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LastHomeros@reddit

Turks are the legal heirs of the Ottoman Empire, which controlled the Balkans, the Middle East, and North Africa a little over a century ago.
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Ok-Club-7675@reddit

Pls clarify for which part of my post is this answer for?
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LastHomeros@reddit

Read some history then you might understand.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

>Just because Turkey has more reach to different regions due to its historical and cultural ties, it doesn’t make them an invader, but rather a fortunate country. Now replace Turkey with Russia and see how that sounds like. If US or Russia do it it's imperialism but when Turkey does it it's all cool
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CaptainTurko@reddit

Dude thinks Ukranian civillians are playing Hide and Seek. There is a literal war there and Russia is the only one responsible. Turkiye never started the wars you are counting. They started by mostly US and Russia. Turkiye is just trying to defend their borders.
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LastHomeros@reddit

What I’m saying is that supporting friendly regimes or groups in other regions is not the same as committing ethnic cleansing or invading other countries to take their lands. Also, I’m not arguing whether engaging with other countries is good or bad. What I am saying is that it’s natural. Even Romania, which has little influence abroad, actively engages with Moldova because of shared cultural and historical ties. Greece, again, actively supports Cyprus and Armenia because of its national interests against Turkey. As you can see, it’s all about capacity. It’s up to us to decide whether we approve of who’s doing it or not. That’s why the EU put an embargo on Russia for invading Ukraine but stayed silent when the US kidnapped the Venezuelan president. Or that’s why Europeans condemn Turkey for the Armenian Genocide but stay silent when France did the same in Algeria in 1960s.
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TechnicianTimely2879@reddit

Turkey invaded none of them what are you talking about?
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stevosteve@reddit

Cyprus joins the chat 😂
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Yes you did. You had troops occupying Northern Syria before your proxies took over, you also had Turkish troops in Northern Iraq slaughtering Kurds until last year, Turkish troops still in Libya and Mali and mercenaries sent by Turkey in the Karabakh War.
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KillerPalm@reddit

You'll believe anything wouldn't you? As long it's anti-Turkish
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theanxioussnail@reddit

This isnt a negotiable thing. It is a fact that russia and turkey have been fighting over control in lybia after the fall of Gaddafi
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KillerPalm@reddit

No mention of France and Greece supporting the same side that Russia also supports? And last I checked Turkey was literally supporting the UN backed government.
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SirAdorable5381@reddit

He probably thinks al Cypriots are greek also lol
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KillerPalm@reddit

Probably thinks us TCs should go back to Turkey.
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More_Ad_5142@reddit

Slaughtering Kurds? I believe states have a right to fight designated terrorist organizations like PKK. Turkish actions were not directed at civilians.
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melts_so@reddit

"It didnt happen but if it did theu deserved it" /s
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yamankara@reddit

I think your problem is not really knowing what 'invasion' means.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

So occupying Northern Syria, launching raids across the border with Iraq, sending troops to defend your assets in North Africa are not invasions now ? If the US did them they'd be "imperialistic invadions" but ehen Turks do its suddenly they're not.
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Zrva_V3@reddit

Only country here that has Turkish troops in it against the government's will is Iraq, and even there Turkey has KRG's consent and only controls some remote mountain bases to block strategic mountain passes into Turkey, which the PKK has historically used. Not by direct intervention but by proxy means it's not a Turkish invasion at all. You failed to provide any meaningful examples.
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calloutyourstupidity@reddit

Bed time
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Kitsooos@reddit

Em ... Cyprus ?? 1/3 still occupied ? 500.000 illegal settlers ??? 160.000 Cypriots expelled from their homes ??
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LastHomeros@reddit

Turkish armed forces landed on Cyprus in 1974, not in 2014 when Erdoğan became president. The whole operation had nothing to do with Neo-Ottomanism. Get your facts right.
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Killabeezz999@reddit

Intention to do harm is not enough, you need capacity. So it doesn't matter what Erdogan wants. Israel is the issue here.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

Moving the goal post are we ? First it was "Israel wishes to expand because some ministers said so" but when I point out to Sultan Erdoğan's desire to bring back the empire and his invasions and occupationd of neighboring territorry suddenly that doesn't matter because he supposedly doesn't have the "CaPaCiTy". Russia doesn't have the capacity to conquer Ukraine yet they're still seen as a threat to Europe (especially Eastern Europe) even for trying. But we write Turkey off as a threat because of it's supposed lack of capacity ? Really ?!
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Berk-Birkenstock@reddit

Which invasions do you speak of?
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NemesisBates@reddit

Eretz Israel isn’t a goal in a physical sense as much as it’s a geopolitical goal for Israel. There’s no possible scenario where Israel annexes the entirety of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan, while also taking significant chunks of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. The world powers would unilaterally declare war on Israel the second they tried. But they can create a scenario where none of these nations are capable of threatening Israel or arming resistance groups in the territory it already occupies. You already see this with Israel backing different jihadi and ethnonationalist groups that have been destabilizing their neighbors for the last 40 years. This isn’t anti-semitism or whatever buzzword you want to throw at me to defend a genocidal imperialist project, this is plain geo politics. Israel has interests that it will pursue, and as they have shown throughout their near 80 years of recognized existence, there is no length they are not willing to go to see those pursuits satisfied.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

LMAO! Israel offered many compromises over the years. The 1947 plan, return if the Sinai to Egypt, withdrawal from South Lebanon, Camp David, withdrawal from Gaza and the Olmert plan. Meanwhile the Arabs almost always said no unless Israel is replaced by an Arab state and the Jews are either all killed or return to being 2nd class citizens under Arab rule. But sure, Israel is the evil, genocidal, imperialist here.
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NemesisBates@reddit

If by the 1947 plan you mean the UN partition of Palestine, Israel violated that immediately and repeatedly. They wiped their ass with it. It was illegal anyway so who cares. And they only gave the Sinai back because they seized it after they simultaneously attacked all their neighbors before the 6 Day War. And they haven’t withdrawn from Gaza, they’re still actively committing genocide there. Don’t be naive. Levantine Jews had a much better time of it under the Arabs than European Jews had it under the various European despots that spent the previous 2,000 years pogroming them from Spain to Russia. Just do any basic research into Jewish-Muslim relations pre 1900 and you’ll see that there isn’t some ancient hatred between the two groups, that under the different caliphates and states that came after the Jews were more protected than they were in Europe. They even had more economic opportunities and weren’t forced into ghettos. It wasn’t until England and France divided up the region at the end of WW1 that things began to move in the current direction. There was a legitimate chance for a multi-cultural, multi-religious Levantine state but Sykes-Picot killed that in its crib. And yes absolutely, the state of Israel is a genocidal entity. You can give them whatever excuse you want, they are a nation built on ethnosupremacism and religious intolerance. They have been since Ben-Gurion too so we can’t just act like it’s Bibi.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

>If by the 1947 plan you mean the UN partition of Palestine, Israel violated that immediately and repeatedly. They wiped their ass with it. It was illegal anyway so who cares. The Arabs literally threw a hissy fit, rejected it and started a war. How the hell did Israel violate it when they said yes and Arabs not only said "no" but started a war over it ? Also it came from the UN. How tf was it illegal ? Nowadays if someone breaks the slightest UN law everyone is up in arms about it as if they sinned against God but when Arabs do it it's "Illegal" ? What the hell kinda logic is this >And they only gave the Sinai back because they seized it after they simultaneously attacked all their neighbors before the 6 Day War. You conviniently leave out that said neighbors imposed a blockade on Israel (AKA an act of war) and were massing troops at the border like Russia did with Ukraine. And again, regardless of what happened Israel still gave that back to Egypt when they could have just kept it since it was very strategically important. >And they haven’t withdrawn from Gaza, they’re still actively committing genocide there. First of all they widrew 20 years ago. Forcefully evacuated all Jews and destroyed every settlement only to wake up with a hail of missiles from Hamas. They only came back after October 7th. >Levantine Jews had a much better time of it under the Arabs than European Jews had it under the various European despots that spent the previous 2,000 years pogroming them from Spain to Russia. That's like saying people had a much better time under the Soviet Union than under Nazi Germany. Just because the Europeans were worse doesn't mean that life under Arab rule was a Utopia. >Just do any basic research into Jewish-Muslim relations pre 1900 and you’ll see that there isn’t some ancient hatred between the two groups, that under the different caliphates and states that came after the Jews were more protected than they were in Europe. They even had more economic opportunities and weren’t forced into ghettos. It wasn’t until England and France divided up the region at the end of WW1 that things began to move in the current direction. There was a legitimate chance for a multi-cultural, multi-religious Levantine state but Sykes-Picot killed that in its crib. Bullshit! Jews (just like all non-Muslims) were literally 2nd class citizens who needed to pay protection tax for existing. It was like America under Jim Crow. Hell even the Quran has some rather anti-semitic bullshit in it. Also "multi-cultural, multi-religious state" LMAO ! Arabs can barely tolerate each other if they worship a different denomination of Islam let alone another religion. Just look at all the ethno-religious groups Sykes-Picot stitched together Willy-Nilly and all the civil wars and discrimination it caused. You're calling me naive when you come up with this bullshit, unrealistic hippie feverdreams ? LOL! >And yes absolutely, the state of Israel is a genocidal entity. You can give them whatever excuse you want, they are a nation built on ethnosupremacism and religious intolerance. They have been since Ben-Gurion too so we can’t just act like it’s Bibi. Literally 20% of it's population is Arab and they have better rights than any minority in any Arab state. They can be Muslim or Christian or Druze and speak their language no problem, they have cities and towns with Arab majority, bilingual signs in Hebrew & Arabic, they can serve in the army voluntarely instead of being forced to like the Jews and there are even IDF army officers. Not to mention Arab politicians, MPs, judges etc. Compare that to all their Arab Muslim ethnostates surrounding them where very few people are not Arab or not follow Islam and if they do they're discriminated or straight up murdered.
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shikso@reddit

Some of their army battalions have the greater Israel badge on their uniforms 💀 dafuq are you talking about?? They literally say it on live tv and are constantly taking over more Palestinian lands in the west bank…
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

And some Ukrainian troops use UPA and Nazi symbols. Does that make Ukraine Nazi ? Also those who say it are the more extremist factions
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shikso@reddit

You are comparing apples to oranges. In Ukraine there are known Nazi factions buddy and that is fine, every population has its shitheads. Hell even Germany has a new Nazi party (AFD). In Israel this rhetoric is in every aspect of their society. The army, the police, the settlers(it’s in their FUCKING name), the politicians, the UN delegations and the avg israeli. Get real man
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

The same Israel who withdrew from Gaza only to get a rain of missiles from Hamas ? The same Israel who withdrew from South Lebanon only for another Hezbollah attack 6 years later ? The same Israel who proposed a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank twice only to be declined both times in favor of more bloodshed ? The same Israel who gave Sinai back to Egypt ? The same Israel who was ok with an Arabs state in the British mandate only for the Arabs to reject said plan in favor of war ? That Israel ? If anyone should "get real" it's you and your disgusting ignorance.
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BWC_Python@reddit

ba de ce tii cu zulufatii? esti roman sau ce esti?
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NoDevice2698@reddit

Is that why Israel is invading Lebanon?
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

No. They're invading Lebanon because of Hezbollah. No Hezbollah, no invasion
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NoDevice2698@reddit

There was no hezbollah but Israel invaded Lebanon back in mid 1900s. They invaded Palestine in early 1900s.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

>There was no hezbollah but Israel invaded Lebanon back in mid 1900s Define "mid 1900s". If you're referring to the war in the 80s that was because of PLO attacking from Lebanon. >They invaded Palestine in early 1900s. There was no Israel in the early 1900s so no invasion. Also Palestine was not a country, just a British mandate
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NoDevice2698@reddit

Oh no. So they colonized a modern society and commit genocide/force migration to get majority in population. Sounds familiar.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

First of all there were Jews living there for thousands of years before the Ashkenazis arrived (a minority, sure but still). Jews who were treated like 2nd class citizens by their Arab overlords. Even today the Mizrahi Jews (Middle Eastern) are the majority there. 2nd of all even if you ignore that. Diaspora Jews didn't come as some Tatar Horde ready for conquest and pillaging. They arrived as civillians who legally bought land and settled there no different from how I could go by land in France and settle there. Third of all it was the Arabs who started it with pogroms and refusal to cooperate. In 1947 they were offered a to split the mandate and they launched a war in response. So the Nakba is no different from Poland expulsing Germans from Prussia after WW2 or Croatia expulsing Serbs during the war of independence. Also bold of a Turk to talk about colonization and ethnic cleansing when your shithole's demographics were created by ethnically cleansing Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians from their homeland which the Ottomans conquered.
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NoDevice2698@reddit

You are defending literal force migration and genocide on Arabs but it's bad if Muslims do it on Christians.
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OsarmaBeanLatin@reddit

First of all there's a difference. In the first one Arabs started it. They conquered the territorries of modern day Israel, treated Jews like 2nd class citizens, started pogroms against them when Theodor Herzl was not even a sperm and continued to antagonize the Jews with pogroms and wars while refusing any peace offering that didn't result in a Muslim Arab state from the Jordan to the Mediterranean and all the Jews dead or back to being a 2nd class minority. Meanwhile in the 2nd one Turks are the aggressors for invadeing the lands of the Christians, keeping them as 2nd class citizens for centuries and then massacred them for daring to revolt. Also I brought up the comparison to point out the obvious virtue signaling and hypocisy. Israel being an evil, illegitimate state for kicking the Arabs out even if they started it and refused to share the mandate but Turkey who appeared in it's current form by slaughtering and deporting thousands of Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians is not
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ictp42@reddit

They can't even hold southern Lebanon. Israel is overestimating itself and the US' support for it.
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MartinBP@reddit

No one is planning on expanding towards Turkey. This is the same mentally deranged propaganda Putin used to justify his invasion. No, the tiny country with less people than Istanbul isn't trying to destroy your empire built on genocide and religion zealotry.
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bRiCk404@reddit

>Greater Israel borders Turkey Greater Israel **includes** Hatay, Kilis and Gaziantep. >even occupies small part of it There is no "small part" of a country for anyone to casually occupy. These religious lunatics won't stop on their own. They see Türkiye as the next big thread in the region. But I think these so called hatred between leaders is just theatrics and AKP government has been an asset of Israel since the beginning.
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dimitriri@reddit

It is somewhat related to Erdogan. Netanyahu knows if the Turkish opposition is elected, first thing they would do is to close ties with new Syrian government, allow usa to use its bases for attacking Iran. Allow Kurdish militia groups in Syria and Iraq to be active and used against Iran. All these are in the interest of Israel and them dominating middle east and expand. Of course Turkey will be next but by the time they understand this, it will be too late for Turkey. They will be sureounded by Greece, Cyprus and Kurds all backed up by zios.
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D3m0nSl4y3r2010@reddit

>So if Iran folds As if that would ever happen. Iran is doing fine for itself against the US military. Ground invasion would be the final blow to trumps international and national reputation. If he manages not to be impeached and wins the next election (becoming a dictator). Iran would probably become the US' Ukraine.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

100%. I can tell you, there is literally almost none anti-semitism in the population but almost every turkish person you are gonna meet is gonna be an anti-zionist. Zionism is the last western colonisation project, people are slowly waking up.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>Kinda curious if Israeli animosity towards Turkey (and vice versa) would continue if Turkey voted in a different government as well Israel is a fashist country. Would putting Musolini in charge of the 3rd Reich change the outcome of Nazi Germany? >After all, this deterioration of relations appears to stem more from Erdogan and Netanyahu’s personal disconnect  Israeli foreign policy didnt start with Netanyahu. Turkey's stance against israel might have started with Erdogan, but it is a global shift in perception. Spain has nothing to do with Israel either, yet it has a clear anti-Israeli stance.
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MartinBP@reddit

Spain has a far-left party propping up the government. They're carrying on animosity inherited from the Soviets. And it's very convenient for Sanchez to distract from domestic politics. Turkey is an expansionist state occupying and actively settling Cyprus, an EU country. Not to mention the minorities they genocided to get their current borders and demographics. Peak hypocrisy to be accusing the Israelis of fascism.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>Spain has a far-left party propping up the government. They're carrying on animosity inherited from the Soviets. And it's very convenient for Sanchez to distract from domestic politics. Spain was an example. It is multiple EU countries. It isnt a far-left party topic. >Turkey is an expansionist state occupying and actively settling Cyprus Imagen attempting a genocide on turks just to get slapped and afterwards some orthodox nationalists spin the story as some kind of expansionist policy. What an utterly disgusting take. You are saying this, while Israel has a bufferzone for their bufferzone. >an EU country.  Because Greece blackmailed the EU in accepting Cyprus. Yes. No EU country is allowed to be part of the EU with any kind of territorial dispute. >Not to mention the minorities they genocided to get their current borders and demographics. "GUYS +100 YEARS AGO TURKS GENOCIDED PEOPLE! THEY ARE EVIL!" >Peak hypocrisy to be accusing the Israelis of fascism. you need at least room temperature IQ to understand the topic.
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New_Parking9991@reddit

how can comments like this get upvotes.Your opinion is the same as Israelis, Israelis are just defending themselves according to Zionists. Truth is military junta tried enosis and there was intercomunal violence, Turkey interevened but then despite peace and junta falling decided to divide the island force out 150k\~ GC from their lands and tried to establish new state. The invasion killed more people than the supposed attempted genocide. I.e. Like Russia did the ''military intervention'' to protect Russians in donbas. You just landgrabbed the north of the island. Most of GC were not supportive of the junta at all, and some died too.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>Your opinion is the same as Israelis, Israelis are just defending themselves according to Zionists. It is not an opinion that the slaughter of turkish civilians on cyprus triggered the turkish invasion. That much is a fact. You can deny it. You can pretend that this didnt happen, but that wont change the reality of things. But even if we assume that this purely and only happened for expansionist reasons: What does that have to do with present day politics? Turkey is not against the unification of the islands, nor are any expansionist policies being conducted. Syrian territory is entirely handled by syrians. Turkish military intervention in Iraq or Libya entirely happen with the agreement of these countries. You bunch just make up fake stories in order to justifie your racist world-view. >The invasion killed more people than the supposed attempted genocide. So what do we learn from this? Turkey evil or maybe dont try to genocide turks in the first place? Mind you these killed do include turkish civilians. >You just landgrabbed the north of the island. >Most of GC were not supportive of the junta at all, and some died too. You know I have no issues with the unification of the islands. However, people like you make me think that you guys fully deserve it and that the island should stay split for the rest of times. There is 0 remorse. 0 reflection. 0 accountability. It is always "Turkey evil". Greeks start an entire genocide and somehow you still see greeks as the victims. The levels of delusion geniuenly disgust me.
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New_Parking9991@reddit

>Turkey evil or maybe dont try to genocide turks in the first place? Mind you these killed people do include turkish civilians. There was no genocide attempt, it was a coup with a junta, the junta was not elected nor was it supported by GC. It was intercomunal violence. Your opinion is same as Zioninsts....'' they want to genocide us, so we steal land in westbank'' it dont add up. Turkey intervened but the junta fell, then turkey invade 2nd time and forced 150k people of their homes and used what was GC land to try establish new State. It is the turkish side that thinks ''you were promised a turkish state in Cyprus''. This is exact same logic as Zionists. >Greeks start an entire genocide and somehow you still see greeks as the victims. The levels of delusion geniuenly disgust me. Your propaganda is what should disgust you, same propaganda as Zionist. If genocide is what the events of 74 was,then what your army did was even worse. Thats exactly what zionists, they try to genocide us we just protect ourselves. For other countries they also say same, ''kurds ask us for help, or terrorists there attack us '' etc... There is no racism here, just calling a spade a spade.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>There was no genocide attempt, Yes it wasnt an attempt. It was one. Greeks slaughtere turkish civilians purely for being turkish, which is classified as a genocide by UN law. >It was intercomunal violence. Started by greeks with the aim to murder turks. You can make as many mental fart noises as you want. This is a text-book example of a genocide. Just because it wasnt systematically organized by the country, it isnt less of a genocide. By this logic, the adana genocide against the armenians were also just "intercommunal violence" and should not be regarded as a genocide. What an utterly disgusting human being. >Your opinion is same as Zioninsts....'' they want to genocide us, so we steal land in westbank'' it dont add up. It isnt. I didnt have any issues against the unification of the island. I was in fact a support of it, but after your comment: Fuck it. Hopefully it stays split. Hopefully we make it into a full blown turkish province. You guys show no remorse and accountability anyways. >It is the turkish side that thinks ''you were promised a turkish state in Cyprus''. This is exact same logic as Zionists. 1. Turkey doesnt recognize northern cyprus as turkish (as in part of Turkey) territory, nor is it against the unification of the island. 2. This has arse to do with my comment. What Turkey did is in no relation to what Israel is doing rn. This is entirely whataboutism by you guys. >,then what your army did was even worse. Name it buddy. It was ethnic cleansing, which is far better than genocide. People are alive. Not dead. >Thats exactly what zionists, they try to genocide us we just protect ourselves. If you remove the stick up your arse, you will realize that unlike Israel, no one here is justifying any kind of military intervention against any greek state. >For other countries they also say same, ''kurds ask us for help, or terrorists there attack us '' etc... Which kurdish country asked for assistance from Greece you clown? >There is no racism here, just calling a spade a spade. Of course it is racism. Full blown racism. You are not just racist, but also fashist.
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shiwonozomu_majochan@reddit

no need to waste your breath, you're arguing with a bulgarian
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Ouvolk@reddit

You know Turkish Republic is built after the Turkish Independence War, right? Turkey is created after repelling occupying forces. Brits, French, Russians were occupying the land before Turkey got it back. Turkish State is fundamentally very different than Ottomans in every way.
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Positive-Schedule901@reddit

You dreamin if you think erdogan is against israel or something. Where do you think the azeri oil flows to israel from? Never in the history of the 2 countries has there been a bigger trade volume. Erdogan is just another populist figure put there to distract the crowd while the evil people get what they want.
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DocGerbill@reddit

Israel really wants Kurdistan to happen and turkey is doing everything possible to prevent that.
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ilhanguvenerol@reddit

It's easy to talk shit on camera when %90 of the people dislikes isreal, while keeping the jewish money flow
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Zealousideal_Fox3012@reddit

No. The only thing they care about is colonialising more countries and making meaningless wars.
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HistoricalSky8726@reddit

Israel seems to be hostile towards any country that is serious about arming and economic independence. Any Turkish administration ticking those boxes is a possible target.
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Tenchi_Muyo1@reddit

Türkiye will need to clap USA before it can clap israel
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Atilla-The-Hon@reddit

No. In fact the animosity might even increase.
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Free_Caterpillar_223@reddit

As a greek man I feel obliged to say that I despise the so called alliance with the Israelis and I hope the best for our Turkish bros
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odanwt99@reddit

Israel is a valuable ally for Greece against Turkiye though. It's Turkiye who poses a significant threat to Greece so supporting them over Israel doesn't make sense.
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BlackHand27@reddit

Turkiye has no intention of attacking Greece at all. Stop spreading fearmonger. Greeks have to wake up before it’s too late.
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odanwt99@reddit

According to countless statements from Turkiye politicians over the years and based on it's actions concerning Greece and other neighbouring countries it definitely seems like it intends to take greek territory if given the chance.
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BlackHand27@reddit

You have to be an absolute fool to believe what the politicians say. The reality is the people of both countries. No one wants to go to war against each other except for the ultranationalist morons.
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odanwt99@reddit

In any case, you need to take those words seriously and prepare accordingly.
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mistRbit@reddit

What? No yo don't. Don't be fooled by your lying generals. No Turk ever wanted to invade Greece in a 100 years.
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kekobang@reddit

So there's a country that is hedhehogging you because you form a C shape against it and then theres another that is literally commiting genocide and attacking every fucking neighbour it has and you think the hedgehog is dangerous because the spikes are scary or smt bruh
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Ill-Dragonfruit4394@reddit

Vive la grece et vive la turquie!
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CanPavlus@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/lzrngdlbbxyg1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8913b360ddc7fffe7c5986209cc84216bf2f938f
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Zealousideal_Cry_460@reddit

Thanks bro İ hope we can archieve peace and fairness together
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athvellos22@reddit

It would be so epic if we could tag team the Israelis somehow....
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MindlessScarcity3641@reddit

that would be the best crusade ever
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Adistaktos34@reddit

As Greek i love this i love this alliance and will fight alongside Israel if needed.
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athvellos22@reddit

As a Greek, i would gladly do the exact opposite.
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globeglobeglobe@reddit

Phull sapport 4 ijrael
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lignadis@reddit

As a greek I would frag my superior officers if they ever made me fight side by side with the ethno terrorist state
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WASDKUG_tr@reddit

> "As Greek i love this i alliance" > look at account > "joined 3 months ago You aint fooling anyone Bibi
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Adistaktos34@reddit

Oh ok you got me
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prsutjambon@reddit

That Israel needs another clash with someone else or they get an internal civil war/troubles in a few years. After Iran, they need another enemy. Turkey is right there. Israeli propaganda machine and its western minions (sadly everyone because of reasons) is pushing for it. Israel, geopolitically, is the Satan of the entire world. Fuck them
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MartinBP@reddit

Sure Ivan, sure. Let's pretend it's Israel, not Russia threatening to nuke us every month. Let's pretend it's Israel, not Turkey occupying an EU country. Let's pretend it's Israel, not Iran funding terrorism in Europe. Lunatics.
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mistRbit@reddit

Hahaha Bulgarian is afraid anyone is going to nuke Bulgaria. Dude. No one ever thinks of bulgaria.
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prsutjambon@reddit

Shalom Aviad, sure. It's Ruzzia!!! ISRAEL GOOD!! Russia is bad! Israel is good because they really know how to ethnically cleanse Gazans, blackmail the western political elite and tell Trump to bomb children and start the dumbest war. Razzia pretends to nuke us every second! Not like our glorious Israel that literally has the fucking Samson Option. Those ruzzies are badder! Turkey is occupying an EU country! They should be ethnically cleansed to make Greater Israel! Northern Cyprus should be Israeli! PS: fuck russians, but Israel is the Satan of the world. BAD JIDF BOT.
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Successful-Long-1316@reddit

Israel is more likely to beef with Iraq right after Iran if everything goes smoothly
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od3795486159601@reddit

What Israel needs is nuclear annihilation.
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0BS3RVR@reddit

Even if Trump were to allow Israel to use nukes in the war, I doubt Israel could survive the political backlash and public downfall that comes from using a weapon of mass destruction, and especially a nuke at that. And I dont think they'd ever want to do that either, as they seem to be having fun killing lebanese civillians, and are probably planning on stealing land from them as well.
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od3795486159601@reddit

No, I mean that Israel needs to be nuked into oblivion.
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0BS3RVR@reddit

Eh, I wouldn't mind a big portion of Israel's current rulers being executed, as I do just see their current government ad fascists or at least fascist adjacent, but there are arabic and jewish civiliams there man, and Jerusalem is kinda important to quite a few religions... But if Iran ever manages to nuke Israel, I would let it go just because the following fallout would be hella funny.
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blockybookbook@reddit

Looking at the approval ratings for the Gaza war machine should immediately make one hate Israeli society as a whole
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Firestrike9@reddit

Does that logic work in Gaza as well with their 80% support of Hamas and act 7th?
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blockybookbook@reddit

The Gazans were in an open air prison in which their airspace and coast were tightly controlled by their settle colonial oppressors, all rationels that the Israelis use to justify their sentiment actually applied to them The Israelis were basically completely in the clear in 2022 and STILL decided to vote in Hitler 2.0, there is no excuses with them, their whole nation is built on evil
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Firestrike9@reddit

So I ask again, because less than 30% voted for Netanyahu it is justified for you to use that blanket argument, but for Palestinians with 80% support for Hamas it is not because “reasons”. Don’t be a hypocrite.
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A-Slash@reddit

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Fay-1990@reddit

Jerusalem IS the problem, Balian told Saladin in 1187 : "I will burn everything in Jerusalem, our sacred monuments, yours, and everything that's making humans mad".
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meternik@reddit

After Iran you mean After DEFEATING Iran, which is very unlikely considering the current situation about the war.
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A-Slash@reddit

Keep sucking Ayatollah cock you fucking pieces of shit.This has to be one of the most pathetically tankie threds i have ever seen.
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Utfarberget@reddit

Israel would be unwise to try to pick a fight with the Turks. It's a pity the EU will not use its economic muscles and sanction Israel over its actions in Gaza,  the occupied territories and Lebanon.  Sadly,  Germany will stop any such actions. 
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liberalskateboardist@reddit

no, turkey is more like middle eastern china hehe
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Sea_Pickle_927@reddit

If they help us liberate North Cyprus why not?
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FriendshipRemote130@reddit

why would you ally yourself with a genocidal nation?
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Humble_House_9900@reddit

Ask the countries that allied with germany during ww2.
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Solid_Swimmer_9998@reddit

The countries that allied with the USA won WW2, so we are sticking with the USA block
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ISuckAtSmurfing@reddit

Meh, fuck Turkey. Constantly attacking coalition members in Syria/Iraq, bombing the Kurds relentlessly, messing with Greece (a nato ally btw), buying Russian equipment, etc. etc. Should be kicked out of NATO honestly. They’re more loyal to Islam than anything else.
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FriendshipRemote130@reddit

wait until you hear about what Israel is doing
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CoastalNomad06@reddit

First Islamist Turkey should be kicked out of NATO, somehow, then it’s game on.
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FriendshipRemote130@reddit

uh?
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Nicktorious87@reddit

It could be also referring to the fact that Turkey has been evolving backwards (in terms of policy) like Iran for a few years now
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FriendshipRemote130@reddit

im sure we can trust a country committing etnic cleansing and genocide to put them on the right track again then
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Unfortunately not
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SUURBECK@reddit

Turkey has one of the larger military forces of NATO. Let's see what happens!
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Voidsterr@reddit

Our military isn't very modern and doesn't have a good officer corps. We'd hold but it'd be a bloodbath and send as many reserves to any possible invasion tho I severely doubt it'll happen
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turkish_wifey_izmir@reddit

This does not reflect reality mate :) Turks are one of the few ready to infiltrate and manage a prolonged war against any country including above her weigh class. Wake up.
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WigglySchlong@reddit

And what do you do about Israel’s nukes?
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turkish_wifey_izmir@reddit

Curious to see what happens if Israel intends to use it. I do not think there will be such country on the Earth if it risks it. Israel is not an island country 10s of thousands kilometers away. It is an arms length to Turkiye.
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Voidsterr@reddit

Bwahahaha. Cool sounding slogans won't get you far. We'd only see large swathes of conscripts slaughtered by enemy air forces in such a hypothetical scenario. Their land forces, although inexperienced and lacking in number posses much better tech than us. Not to mention most of Israel's superiority lies in the air. They'd destroy our air force which would leave our navy vulnerable and then all they have to do is get enough bullets to cut down the amount of people we'd desperateley throw to the frontline. Our strength lies in sheer numbers
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turkish_wifey_izmir@reddit

You are nothing but a false flag :) Good on you pretending to be a Turk! War is not video game. I wish no war in the region but if necessary then enemies will taste the reality.
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Voidsterr@reddit

Lmao, keep living in your delusions. Nationalist education truly is one of the greatest evils committed to Turkish youth
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turkish_wifey_izmir@reddit

Sure sure!
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GIOVKRUG@reddit

I don't think an invasion of Turkey would be even 1% easy, for a number of reasons: 1. Population 2. Even if the army isn't as well equipped, you guys still pack a punch with indigenous made weapons, that's a massive advantage regardless 3. Your army is tested and battle ready Whatever you are trying to say, you are not nearly as screwed as my country Egypt, we literally have a flat demilitarized desert between us and Israel, our Army is corrupt af and uncareful, very limited indigenous industry, and focused on business and politics.
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Voidsterr@reddit

I agree that an invasion of Turkey would be very hard but not impossible and it'd be a massive bloodbath for us
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GIOVKRUG@reddit

They are not pulling that without massive intense help from the U.S, and I think it's really difficult for the U.S to back Israel on Turkey because of their proximity to Russia, Europe and the Bosporus straight which basically passes through Turkey and is one of the most important straits One fatal flaw of Israel is their small population, their military might have technological superiority but they are dependent on foreign supply, invading that much territory and keeping it is borderline impossible, especially for a nation with a very strong army with indigenous manufacturing and a large population
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abki12c@reddit

Turkey doesn't have nuclear weapons and Israel has other weapons Turkey hasn't even dreamed of
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mhmetglrq@reddit

You can’t solve any war with nuclear weapons. Israel may have many kinds of weapons, but it doesn’t change anything. Look at the war with Iran—what has changed? Also, if they tried to attack Türkiye, it wouldn’t be like Iran. Our people are committed to their causes, and we have geopolitical advantages.
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abki12c@reddit

15-20 million of your people are Kurds. And Israel doesn't want to invade Iran, they just want to destroy their nuclear program. The Turkish army is too weak to compete with Israel and USA. The only experience the Turkish army has is fighting Kurds who have no air force and limited equipment plus arming other groups against them, they don't pick equally strong opponents. North Koreans were also committed to their causes in Ukraine yet they dropped like flies by drones.
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mhmetglrq@reddit

What do you think all the kurdish people like you against the Türkiye. You dreaming boy. You think Turkish army so weak like greeks economy. Wrong, we are the 2. Army in the nato boy. Where do you live like a fucking cave? You have so many wrongs. Do some research and learn how great the turkish army and what the kurdish peoples problems. We have so many kurd soldiers in the army they love our country and they ready to die for our country. You cant understand this ideology. We are born to save this country. Look i am half Turk and half Kurd and i love my country. If it’s necessary I would die for my country.
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abki12c@reddit

You're not a Kurd, you're a turkified Kurd just like there's Muslim Greeks. Imagine fighting for a nation that massacred your own people. https://preview.redd.it/rzk5vnmv1yyg1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=9903541c72b1205f1a3f38858b992cbb10448401
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Angelically_@reddit

You don't even deserve having a response that dismantles your shitty "argument"
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Lucky-Finish7331@reddit

Serves syndrome
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EvilInGood@reddit

Performative speeches. Neither sides truly oppose each other.
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GIOVKRUG@reddit

It's more complicated than that, it's a regional power game Rn, Turkey no matter what Israel tries to do, a very dominant and strong power in the region Also, my country Egypt even started to align with Turkey heavily after realizing Israeli threat on the region
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EvilInGood@reddit

It's completely about influence. Turkey would never get into a conflict with Israel. Even though our country seems to have many disagreements with Israel, we would never risk escalation of tensions since what USA says matter to our geopolitics.
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MindlessScarcity3641@reddit

there is no such thing as an opposition party in i-rael
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Kitsooos@reddit

Hey look. Someone in here gets it.
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TrainingHeavy1666@reddit

Other than your turkish politicians which they are a pain in the ass for Greece cause "casus beli" and cyprus, or whatever they say about Greece, greek people would NEVER agree to give help to any country to attack Turkey.When i think about you may have war ,as our neighbors, I get really anxious and worried cause you are like us actually. I don't have any best friend from Turkey, but I used to have clients from Turkey and we r like you. We have same songs,same rhythm,similar food and so many more. If a government would agree to help a country to attack you,def the people would be asking for elections ASAP. We r a country that we HATE war.We don't even think about it. We would never agree. I would LOVE if you had a more gently government and you were like our Italians neighbors f.e or Bulgarians. Easy going and full of peace. We have SO much in common ,we are like siblings. We might fight over yogurt if its greek or turkish or in a football game but at the end of the day, we are fine and life goes on
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GIOVKRUG@reddit

Damn, as an Egyptian I love Turkey and Greece very much As my country is a melting pot of both Greece and Turkey
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MindlessScarcity3641@reddit

agreed and we arent really satisfied with our current government either i mean they started togg and improved our defense industry and i acknowledge that was good but economy has suffered alot in the last 6 years
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StamatisTzantopoulos@reddit

Israel is the new Russia more like
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Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit

Yeah! Unfortunately Turkey moved away from Europe and Western Civilization, so it's the next target of the Western world. NATO is trying to keep a distance from Tuekey, Ursula von der Leyen recently made some negative remarks about Turkey, and also Emanuel Macron recently commented about a Greco-Turkish war in which France will take the side of Greece, no matter what. Furrthemore Greece is deploying Patriots all over the place (even in Bulgaria) and have constant increased military presence in Cyprus. Things seems bad if you ask me. But in any case I believe it's a unique opportunity for Greece to increase its territorial waters to 12 nautical miles (which is 100% legal act), since all the odds at the moment is in favor of Greece. If Turkey activates the casus belli then I guess EU+Israel will be on the Greek side. Probably it will also give US a reason to leave NATO (in order to also side with Israel against Turkey). All these will be bad for both Greek and Turkish people, but I don't think that anyone really cares.
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MohaTi@reddit

Netanyahu and his government literally committing a genocide and half of the Israeli population still votes for him. And even Bennett is pro Genocide but not that open about it. Totally brainwashed
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Areago@reddit

Guys remember that all these surveys are always false, they only show you made up results without specifying who they asked, what did they ask them and how. This is true for both wings. Surveys suggested that trump vs kamala was supposed to be a close competition favoring kamala and we saw what happened. They do this to affect people with weak minds who can’t think for themselves and it probably works to some degree.
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Few-Interview-1996@reddit

I do not worry and I do not care.
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Content-Departure-77@reddit

You shouldnt care. You are in NATO and even if you aint, you alone would obliterate Israel if you want. 
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wareth-@reddit

There is 0 chance Isreal attacks Türkiye alone. It would be together with PKK America and Grecee. Eu and Nato would do nothing just like they are doing now.
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>and Grecee Just thinking about this scenario shows how completely out of touch you are. What would Greece gain by attacking Turkey?
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wareth-@reddit

Greece started signing pacts with Isreal as soon as Isreal started talking about a war with Türkiye. Also considering US will be also in it, they can convince Greece pretty easily. I am not saying Greece would attack for sure but US will pressure you into it. Promising you total control over Aegeans and possibly even Istanbul. They tried to same thing in Iran trying to pull Turkiye into war. There were a few bombs from Iran that was destroyed by NATO while Iran had no reason to attack Türkiye. After Türkiye refused to help in any way Isreal started the talks about attacking Turkiye next. Just think what would Greece do in a similar situation. Do you think you can say no to the pressure from US and you new ally?
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Marakajin@reddit

Offensive wars are basically unconstitutional, unless they're part of coalition forces sanctioned by the UN. Additionally, the core military force of Greece relies on its citizens. There is no plausible scenario in which Greece could be involved in a military action against Turkey (considering the proximity) without drafting and ain't nobody sending their sons to die to take back Constantinople or anything like that. Manipulation \*could\* occur (like a false flag operation) and this makes political navigation from Turkey very difficult and delicate, but there is no legal basis for an offensive operation in Turkey.
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krejmin@reddit

Do you think laws have a meaning anymore?
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Marakajin@reddit

I hear you, but these laws do mean something in a country where everyone will be asked to go to war. It's one of the few good things about this kind of system, you have a say in these things.
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wareth-@reddit

1.US army uses Greek islands to attack Turkiye. 2. Turkiye retaliates hits Greek islands. 3. Greece declares defensive war on Türkiye.
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kekobang@reddit

Greeks are smarter than that. I like to believe they would recognize that letting a country use your bases to attack another (your ally btw) is an act of war. Only we get to act like Greeks are dumb, watch yourself. 😡
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>Greece started signing pacts with Isreal as soon as Isreal started talking about a war with Türkiye. You are misinformed. Greece has had a military alliance with Israel way before that. >I am not saying Greece would attack for sure but US will pressure you into it. Other than using a Nato base or somewhat, why would US need us? Greece's military doctrine is defensive, we wouldn't know how to even attack anyone, let alone a country EIGHT TIMES our size with a stronger military. >Promising you total control over Aegeans and possibly even Istanbul. You are absolutely delusional. Greece already controls most of the Aegean and how would Greece control a city with more population than the entire country? >There were a few bombs from Iran that was destroyed by NATO while Iran had no reason to attack Türkiye. There were a few targetted towards Cyprus too. >After Türkiye refused to help in any way Isreal started the talks about attacking Turkiye next. I honestly do not think Israel is going to attack Turkey. It's all just posturing and fearmongering.
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wareth-@reddit

Would have said the same thing a few months ago but they are a rabid dog. I just hope Iran destroyes both US and Israel's self confidence enough that they won't be ready for a long time. Aagean thing is the main reason we are not getting along right now. Cyprus actively is an alliance with Isreal while Türkiye said no to any kind of help to Isreal and US. They even questioned our NATO membership for some reason. Also I am not saying US is gonna give you Istanbul but they will promise to give it to you. Greece will probably try to use that to gain support from extremists. Also just like you said giving US base of attack would be going to war. You have to know that you have islands visible from our coast. You think Turkiye will say: hey us army is based on Greek islands but Greece didn't declare war nor sent troops so let's just ignore them?
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>Would have said the same thing a few months ago but they are a rabid dog. They act like that against armies who are vastly inferior to theirs. Turkey's army is much bigger and not as weak as Iran's. >Aagean thing is the main reason we are not getting along right now. The main reason we aren't getting along is Turkey's occupation of Cyprus, the toxic nationalism in it's politics and the fact that they apply UNCLOS in the Black Sea but refuse to apply it in the Aegean. >Also I am not saying US is gonna give you Istanbul but they will promise to give it to you. Disregarding the blatant bullshit carrot dangling, why would Greece want it? How would they handle a city which has a larger population than the entire country? >Greece will probably try to use that to gain support from extremists. Why would Greek government want support from extremists? In fact putting Golden Dawn in prison is actively regarded as one of their biggest accomplishments... now you're saying they'd want support from people like that? Why? >Also just like you said giving US base of attack would be going to war. Are you saying that Greece is at war with IRAN?.. Because some of the US ships currently in the Middle East stopped at the Chania port on Crete. >You think Turkiye will say: hey us army is based on Greek islands but Greece didn't declare war nor sent troops so let's just ignore them? If Greece does that, then I think Turkey will be justified to bomb those bases on Greek islands.
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wareth-@reddit

You do realise Iran attacked every nearby country it can that gave US military bases right? Turkiye was an exception because it's part of Nato and was against the whole war from the start and gave information about Pkk movements towards Iran. Greece similarly was safe because it's part of Nato and Turkiye is between Iran and Greece so basically every missile has to go over us to reach you. I genuinely won't argue with you about why we are not getting along but in the end we aren't and US will use it. As for Istanbul, US republican senate candidate said make Hagia Sophia Christian again in his tweets. Their aim is clear on that front they want you in the war and unless EU backs you up and stands against US I don't see Greece standing up to US and Isreal. I agree that neither Isreal nor US can attack Turkiye directly. Thus they won't. Probably will start with PKK bomb the cities and Turkiye will react and they will say Turks are committing genocide against the Kurds. Some Islamist communions will join in to make it more chaotic because they are all funded by US. Then US and Isreal will attack claiming to bring peace to the region. The Greece involvement is crucial because with that Turkiye will have to fight on multiple fronts. I don't think Armenia will join because they have Azerbaijan to the east and they would be surrounded. Ofc these are all hypothetical and there is a high chance it won't work. Turkiye can handle PKK and Islamists quickly enough that it wouldnt weaken the military. US and Isreals inability to so anything to Iran is also another factor. Failing there probably set things back. Also I doubt Erdogan can win another election so the whole Turkiye is ruled by a dictator thing won't last long.
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puzzledpanther@reddit

>As for Istanbul, US republican senate candidate said make Hagia Sophia Christian again in his tweets. I do not understand how you can take anything in US politics seriously, let alone a fucking tweet... do you not see how much shit their politicians say every day? >Probably will start with PKK bomb the cities and Turkiye will react and they will say Turks are committing genocide against the Kurds. Some Islamist communions will join in to make it more chaotic because they are all funded by US. Then US and Isreal will attack claiming to bring peace to the region. The Greece involvement is crucial because with that Turkiye will have to fight on multiple fronts. This is an asburd fictional scenario... You've bombed the Kurds numerous times and noone did shit. The US abandoned them. Why do you think it will be different this time? >Ofc these are all hypothetical and there is a high chance it won't work. Why do you waste your time thinking about shit like this?
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wareth-@reddit

I mean if US politicians threatened you, you would have taken them more seriously imo. Everyone knows Trump is a manchild but that manchild is bombing Iran. As for Kurds, Russia was a threat until recently and US needed Turkiye. Russia is stuck in Ukraine and Isreal and US started to act freely. That's why they don't give a fuck about Nato anymore. Thats why Iran is important. If US and Isreal are stuck there for too long or lose they will lose the Super power status and respect. Also PKK is trained by CIA so they were always an expendable pawn to US whose aim was to weaken Turkey and other middle eastern countries. As for the scenario; fictional or not we will see in a few years. I genuinely hope you are right but I don't expect any sort of peace while Israel exists. Lastly if Isreal ans US started to talk about attacking Greece and getting it kicked out of Nato and Eu you would also start creating scenarios.
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Separate_Link_846@reddit

Lmao not to rain on your parade but how? Iran is far stronger and far richer of a country and they will fall, it’s a matter of time. Also Turkey is easier to attack. Armenia, Kurdistan and Greece would all “help”. Even though Turkey is part of the NATO, I promise you Europeans won’t even bother.
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Puzzled-Leader1@reddit

R/confidentlyincorrect
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Zrva_V3@reddit

Iran is far weaker and far poorer than Turkey actually. It's not even close.
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everyonelikescookies@reddit

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Amazing_Ant_6991@reddit

oh no,poor greek soldier
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Responsible-Plum-199@reddit

It shows it's the Israeli voters problem for voting such , not the Zionist ideology itself .
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mantequilla_8@reddit

If they think Greek people will support this, they are dreaming.
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Humble_House_9900@reddit

Ποιο από τα μεγάλα κόμματα είναι κατά της συμμαχίας;
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Kitsooos@reddit

Κατά της συμμαχίας κανένα. Αλλά να κάνουμε ντου στην Τουρκία, όλα.
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mantequilla_8@reddit

Ναι με αυτό το πλευρό να κοιμάσαι.
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Kitsooos@reddit

Μερικοί είστε τελείως γίδια και δεν ξέρετε ανάγνωση. Έγραψα ότι προφανώς κανένα μεγάλο κόμμα δεν υποστηρίζει ντου στην Τουρκία και εσύ κατάλαβες το αντίθετο.
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mantequilla_8@reddit

Στα χαρτιά κάνεις. Αν όμως γίνει κάτι που απαιτεί την εμπλοκή του λαού τότε να δεις τι έχει να γίνει.
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Consistent-booper@reddit

All I see are terrorist being ejected
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sjedinjenoStanje@reddit

So many scumbags in this sub.
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RestaurantBoring417@reddit

Nah, Turkey is the old Israel if anything. The worst Israeli war criminal would blush if they saw what the Turks did to the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and Kurds
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

This is just projection bro. Because you killed millions of turks in the balkans you think we did the same.
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nwswaf@reddit

Isn't that true? The Islamization of Turkey is progressing very quickly. Of course, it's not as bad as in Iran, but there's still a long way to go.
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

Who told you islamisation of turkey is progressing? Turkish people never been this secular.
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kurwalover@reddit

what's the stance of the guy on the left?
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Few_Winter_3453@reddit

He is the guy who said Turkey is the new iran
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KikiRiki2255@reddit

Actually it does make sense.. Turkey is NATO. USA (Israels bitch) slowly removes itself from NATO obligations and is obviously preparing for a war between Israel and Turkey at some point so that they dont feel responsible to act or make a stance.
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sta6gwraia@reddit

Nothing in common.
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Vast-Camp-4046@reddit

I smell New 60000 but who knows 😅
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NetraamR@reddit

Let them try. They're already overstretching as is. Turkey and Iran coming closer together is a good thing.
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

Long live sevres syndrome. But it will happen. Zios want a great israel without a thread. Kurds, greeks, armenians are to rub one’s hands in anticipation, lol.
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PotentialBat34@reddit

We really should be worried about this. Time for a push for autarky and maybe even towards a soft enough war economy. I am old enough to remember people in the West start talking about Iran, just after they were done in Iraq.
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ictp42@reddit

That does give us like 20 years to plan though. We need a semiconductor industry. We don't need to compete with Taiwan, but we do need to build semiconductors of high enough quality for kamikaze drones and drone interceptors, since we can't just import them from China in the event of a war.
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

+1
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OmadaPyravlos@reddit

Greeks and Armenians do not have any claims in Turkey. It doesn't really make sense for us to get involved. The US though might, especially if they dismantle NATO by then
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ieradp@reddit

You, I need to confirm something what do kohlis and kolestevra mean? This is how we pronounce it, it may be hard for you to understand but I believe these are greek words. I am just trying to figure out something about myself, so any help would be appreciated.
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goatstation@reddit

Kolhis is what ancient greeks called the area where Georgia is nowdays, kohili means seashell and kohlias means screw,no idea what the second word could mean
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ieradp@reddit

Thanks a bunch, I needed that.
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Kitsooos@reddit

Kolestevra sounds Slavic. Ask the Bulgarians. It COULD be some heavily butchered and mispronounced Greek word, but I can't think of anything. How do you use it ? What does it mean ?
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ieradp@reddit

Lizard
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OmadaPyravlos@reddit

Kohlis, if I get it right is ancient / pontic Greek for snail. Kolestevra sounds similar to cholesterol? Cholisterini in modern greek
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ieradp@reddit

Thanks, so it is greek that makes a lot of sense.
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KathenWalle6@reddit

Puhahah never read a comment more untrue. Your people and armenians do have claims on turkey and would try to take it back if they had a chance hence why cyprus and greece is trying to hold hands with israel currently And also US is ALREADY intervening in every single country out there on globe they dont need to wait for nato to disband to commit their shenanigans.
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OmadaPyravlos@reddit

Take what back, there is no Greek population there anymore. You can't instill settler mentality in 5 years as well, and we don't even have the birth rate for sending settlers 🤣. So how are we going to take them back and how are we going to manage the land? At most what we can get is get Turkey to sign unclos to close the Aegean dispute, that's it.
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dark_veles@reddit

What about constantinople?
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OmadaPyravlos@reddit

A city with 20 million Turks ? Come on man 😂
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puzzledpanther@reddit

You think Greece wants to take back Constantinople? The city alone has more population than the entirety of Greece. How would it work in your mind?
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

Yea, west armania my ass.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

What a surprise- Turkish person blaming Kurds for everything?! Who was expecting this?
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NoDevice2698@reddit

Like Kurds dont support Israel and American gains in any of regional instabilities. Kurds are innocent but their armed notable persons are working for zionism
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goatstation@reddit

It seems kurds have learned their lesson after Syria and Iraq,last time US/Israel tried to use them(iran) they took the guns and run off
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NoDevice2698@reddit

Yes. That's good news
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KillerPalm@reddit

I mean you'd have to be crazy to think the seperatist Kurds won't jump to the occasion to possibly weaken Turkey.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

Hope they will. Wish them luck, they deserve it
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KillerPalm@reddit

Hope the same for the Turkish minority in Bulgaria, they deserve it. Let's recognise North Cyprus as well while we're at it.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

So Turkish minority in Bulgaria is not allowed to learn Theo language in school and basically subject to cultural genocide? Could you provide a single evidence?
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KillerPalm@reddit

Well if your knowledge of Kurds is stuck in the 80s then sure let's go back see how the Turks in Bulgaria were treated back then shall we?
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TheFennecFx@reddit

Are they treated now or the last 30 years the same way Kurds are treated? Why there are no PKK equivalent in Bulgaria? Apart from Bulgarian not being ultranationalist genocide maniacs, of course.
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KillerPalm@reddit

No you just expell most of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_expulsion_of_Turks_from_Bulgaria
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TheFennecFx@reddit

To accept Kurds here? Gladly, they are hardworking and really nice people. As the Turks living here.
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KillerPalm@reddit

Ah yes the same Kurds who are also 'culturally Genociding' my own people btw.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

So Kurds forbid to learn your people language in school?
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KillerPalm@reddit

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/turkey-is-committing-cultural-genocide-in-cyprus/ They have a hand in it, yes.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

So Turkish government is doing the same to your people as to the Kurds and now Kurds are to blame?!
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KillerPalm@reddit

The Turkish gov which is made of many Kurds. The settlers who are also made up of Kurds. The criminals who come here who also consist of Kurds. Did I say Kurds are only to blame? They have a hand in it whether you like it or not.
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

Yea, same for turks living in bulgaria.
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TheFennecFx@reddit

There is a tiny bit of difference as I explained.
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

tiktok.com/@jeliboncu_/video/7493605159667305746
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TheFennecFx@reddit

Care to elaborate? I don’t have the bandwidth or any interest in watching TikTok
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

Yea, tiktok sucks i know. Try instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR1ctg3gEWG/
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Falcao1905@reddit

Armenians probably dislike Israel more than us lol.
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Radiant_Put_3609@reddit

Well, pragmatism has its benefits. But they dislike everyone but themself, lol.
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tolgayucel@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/q7gi20xkfsyg1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=cacfb48d389905eeb2834f8e9d65e10af2dd4cfe
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>Israel Greece alliance will grow. Double it and they can still do arse. Neither of them, combined or not, have capabilities to invade Anatolia.
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abki12c@reddit

Hahaha you're delusional. The Greek army alone almost reached Ankara
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>The Greek army alone almost reached Ankara Greece lost a 3 front war against Turkey, while being better equipped and having numerical advantage. That was +100 years ago and they lost the war. What is even your point?
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abki12c@reddit

Greece is better equipped now too and has aerial superiority in the Aegean. Greece was fighting far from it's home base and lost the war because it wasn't supported properly, due to political instability in Greece etc. The point is Turkey is not a strong country as Turkish nationalists like to portray it. The Israelis are not stupid to invade a country with no plan. They will destabilize your government and replace Erdogan with weak leaders, they will make Turkey be involved in a short war with Greece so that Greece activates article 5 of Nato, they will help the Kurds establish Kuridistan this time because they have common interests, they might get Russia involved too and they will destroy the Turkish army in Syria. Mossad is already on it.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>Greece is better equipped now too No one said anything else. However offensive capabilities are a different subject. You dont just need good equipment, you also need a lot of it and most importantly: you need more people. It is a pipe dream to think that Greece can conduct a successful operation against Turkey. That is straight up not happening. > has aerial superiority in the Aegean.  They dont. Having a couple of Rafaels or F35s doesnt auto translate into aerial superiority. Turkey has a magnitude more of aircrafts and indigenous radar systems, as well as indigenous anti-air systems. The greek airforce can certainly punch above its leauge, but it isnt going to have "superiority over the aegean". That is utter nonsense. Greece wont even be able to hold the islands of the coast of Turkey. >Greece was fighting far from it's home base and lost the war because it wasn't supported properly, due to political instability in Greece etc. THREE FRONT WAR BUDDY. 3 FUCKING FRONTS in Anatolia. NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY. It is pure cope to flip this as some kind of evidence that the greek army is somehow stronger than Turkey. >The point is Turkey is not a strong country as Turkish nationalists like to portray it.  It is by every metric. It aint a US and it is lacking in certain aspects, but it is among the strongest militaries on earth. Easily in the top 10. >They will destabilize your government and replace Erdogan with weak leaders, they will make Turkey be involved in a short war with Greece so that Greece activates article 5 of Nato, they will help the Kurds establish Kuridistan this time because they have common interests, they might get Russia involved too and they will destroy the Turkish army in Syria. Mossad is already on it. Is this what you dream of every night?
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abki12c@reddit

> is a pipe dream to think that Greece can conduct a successful operation against Turkey. We're not stupid to launch a successful operation against Turkey, we'll do it when Turkey is weak of course, just like Turkey will launch an operation on the Greek islands when there's political instability in Greece and arms Pakistanis in Greece to do sabotage. > They dont. [Even your own politicians are saying it](https://nordicmonitor.com/2022/02/security-advisor-admits-greece/). Military equipment developed by France, USA and Israel cannot be compared to what Turkey produces who sells them to third world countries and faces supply issues for foreign parts for the Kaan fighter Jet. > It aint a US and it is lacking in certain aspects, but it is among the strongest militaries on earth. Easily in the top 10. Hahaha you're delusional > Is this what you dream of every night? This is the dream of Mossad and what God revealed to his prophets which are now being confirmed one after another with extreme accuracy. The end of Turkey is near after Erdogan.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>We're not stupid to launch a successful operation against Turkey, we'll do it when Turkey is weak of course, Buddy it didnt work in the past and the longer it isnt happening, the less likely it will happen. Greece is running into a demographic fallout. Even if Turkey falls into political instbailtiy tomorrow, the war would cost Greece so much young men, that Greece would collapse even faster. Where is this pipe dream and nationalist bs coming from? This is utterly delulu. >just like Turkey will launch an operation on the Greek islands when there's political instability in Greece and arms Pakistanis in Greece to do sabotage. Utterly delulu x2. >[Even your own politicians are saying it](https://nordicmonitor.com/2022/02/security-advisor-admits-greece/). Read your own fucking source you clown. 1. Mesut is an advisor. Not a politican. 2. He is not a military expert, but studied fucking law. What is next? Random turkish dentist claimed that Greece can conquer Istanbul in a day and that is a fact now? Utteraly delulu x3. >Military equipment developed by France, USA and Israel cannot be compared to what Turkey produces who sells them to third world countries and Buddy we have western equipment in our investory and the newly developed tech is on par with what is being sold by these countries. You are just racist, which is why you are automatically assuming that turkish equipment cant be as good. >faces supply issues for foreign parts for the Kaan fighter Jet. And is currently not **yet** fully developed, but that is not my point in the first place. This is an utter strawman by you. We have radar and anti-air systems, as well as hypersonic missiles. Air superiority over Turkey requires not just fighters in the air, but also the anhilation of anti-air- and radar-systems. That is simply not happening. You created this fantasy in your head, where 3 dozens of 5th generation fighters somehow miraculously overturn an entire war. Makes you wonder why they arent sent to Ukraine. 3 dozens seem to change the entire war in your head. >This is the dream of Mossad and what God revealed to his prophets which are now being confirmed one after another with extreme accuracy. The end of Turkey is near after Erdogan. Idk about the end of Turkey, but the end of your IQ surely already has happened.
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od3795486159601@reddit

And Turkey doesn't have the capabilities to invade Greece. If it could, it would have done so long ago. What Israel is trying to do is to pit as many countries against each other, to ensure mutual destruction, before they realize that Israel is an existential threat to humanity and needs to be removed from the face of the Earth.
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NecessaryDisaster498@reddit

>And Turkey doesn't have the capabilities to invade Greece. "Greece and Israel cant invade Anatolia. They can do shit." "YEAH BUT TURKEY DOESNT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO INVADE GREECE!!!!!" What is this mental gymnastics? > If it could, it would have done so long ago. Or the likelier explanation: We dont want to invade Greece. >What Israel is trying to do is to pit as many countries against each other, to ensure mutual destruction, before they realize that Israel is an existential threat to humanity and needs to be removed from the face of the Earth. They dont have to do any of that. You get into a mental rage for someone stating that Greece cant invade Anatolia. You are already at the point of making a dick measuring competition.
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od3795486159601@reddit

You're the one getting into a mental rage because I told you that the country that's been after our islands for decades can't actually invade us because if they could they would've just, you know, invaded us and taken our islands. Obviously Greece and Israel can't invade Turkey. Neither has enough manpower. Why are Turks so obsessed with thinking that Turkey is some kind of superpower? It isn't.
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moranmonov@reddit

The fact that a PM that is responsible for the deaths of more than 2000 people is running again is saying a lot about this country. 
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

Turkey is allied with nato. I hardly belive isreal will go in a war with turkey. In such instence according to nato law isreal will go in war with all nato members including usa and european nations.
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od3795486159601@reddit

The USA are owned by Israel lmao if you think they'll protect you (or anyone) from Israel you're living in a fantasy world.
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

There is even american airbase at incirlik where american war planes and crew land rest and launch missons on iran today.
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

Ah down vote me all you want this will not change turkeys position as american puppet. Turkey became one during marshall helps arrived at turkish soil and during adnan menderes's rule later he was executed by hanging in yassıada. There was even a back room army in turkey (gladio) during turgut özals reign which was called milli harp dairesi. So even tho turkish goverment and extrimists may cliam turkey is indipendent surprise surprise it isn't.
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

Dude usa owns turkey too hahaha.
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_zurik_@reddit

I guess NATO won’t react, because Israel.
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

İsreal is not a nato member mate. Its not about what they want its what they have to do besides turkey is a one tough nut second largest army in nato not the mentiion drone tech of turkey
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Pelicans-de-la-NO@reddit

NATO will never protect Turkey over that of Israel.
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TurkishEngineer35@reddit

Well it will unless they want russians at thier border like the end of ww2
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yeswhat111@reddit

Turkey is a sitting turkey for such geopolitical play. It ticks many boxes. A shady leader, poor economy, critically big, meaning they will easily find multiple groups that will happily assist in claiming territories as oppresed minorities and most importantly Turkey is currently in a very bad place regarding allies. I certainly hope for our brothers and sisters on the other side that this will not happen.
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Capital-Stretch1026@reddit

I hope Israel makes that mistake.
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DocGerbill@reddit

This isn't news, everyone knows Israel is eyeing turkey next. I'm really curious to see how they go about attacking a NATO member.
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kostence@reddit

Greek fellas are happier with the news then
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Humble_House_9900@reddit

If israel was really to turn against turkey, this could increase tensions in greece and grow the current military frenzy even more. Regardless of who's in office at tel aviv, the greek government is at fault for this disgusting alliance. Unfortunately, even if ND doesn't get re elected, the other candidates will also continue supporting the alliance and keep us on this dangerous path.
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Vesko85@reddit

Why is this antisemitic thread still open, and why are such things allowed to be written in it?
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Voidsterr@reddit

99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler
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Few_Construction9043@reddit

Brown people and Brown people. I care not.
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nickkamenev@reddit

Everyone in this country is a rabid dog
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The_Zionist_Enemy@reddit

Turkey is not the new Iran but Sultan Erdogan has given refuge for terrorists, armed militias in the region and is openly anti Israel. Sultan Erdogan has been de facto in power for 23 years straight. Prime minister for 11 years and has been President since 2014.
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SnooMuffins4587@reddit

Oh my god what would we do if big strong muscular Israel try to do something to us I'm so scared
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Key_Witness7016@reddit

Israel policy is based on expansion. It has nothing to do with security at all. They create their own enemy and then invade them by this lame excuse. Palestine then lebanon syria jordan egypt and finally Türkiye. They have got their plan and west Asia is bigger than they can swallow now matter They bough all politicians in usa and eu. No matter how much europeans are against Turks . Turks are Alot less dangerous when compared israelis. Muslims did nothing to jews and see how jews genociding them. Europeans genocided them and didnt pay the price . İf muslims are the first . Europeans are the second target. Have fun.
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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/lpn9256xcpyg1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e68c904115763d431af19fed5380247f6f850dd
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Narrow_Safety_957@reddit

It's all about ambitions, to be honest all of the regional powers are shit, Turkey, Iran or Israel all are expansions super nationalist states. Probably best outcome would be if they all fight each other and break up
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Antique_Evidence72@reddit

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Money_Swordfish4097@reddit

there are around 10 million turks in Germany alone. me for my part made my research already which israeli facility to target in such event :)
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Knarrenheinz666@reddit

Elections in IL are always a coin flip since there are so many parties and electoral alliances involved. Bibi got his majority only because he convinced Smotrich and Ben Gvir to join forces.
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Potential-Teacher31@reddit

Greece wont even support this shit.
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SavageDriller1@reddit

Man .. what can I say is that if Israel thinks he can F around with Turkey, go on ,please. See what happens.
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crispyfunky@reddit

Ah, great masturbation content for poor Balkan neighbors. Go bake some bourek tonight.
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Starfalloss@reddit

Wtf I love Israel now!
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