Do you think the rise of doomer content is a sign that societal collapse is brewing?
Posted by mythicalhermit@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 83 comments
Do you think society is worth fighting for? I'm sure there are many who long for full-on anarchy. Total destruction of humanity. Many believe that AI is a gateway to this ending, among many other societal shortcomings of course. Doomers make lots of good points but all of the complaining seems more like cope more that a will to take desire to take action.
DissedFunction@reddit
there is reality and then there is being paralyzed.
Oligarchs seem to want to promote overall sense of powerlessness in people...so they, the oligarchs can stay in power.
True-Vast-3731@reddit
No
Yes
Not destruction of humanity. Just destruction of modern society that's causing so many pain and suffering. I don't want humanity to go extinct
This is the popular talking point yes but ultimately unfounded.
Thing is society is kind of destroying itself so there isn't really a need to act. But some do go full on accelerationist. There's nothing wrong with the laying flat approach though because it's not like society can maintain itself when people refuse to contribute. Apathy is what will ultimately kill this society
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Antinatalist and even some nihilist and gnostics would argue that humanity is irredeemable thus needs to be destroyed. They believe that destruction and reconstruction of society would only lead to the same problems largely because humanity is tge problem. Your thoughts on this perspective?
I think the accelerationist approach would certainly bring a well-deserved dopamine rush and "poetic justice"-like satisfaction, but you're right, I think apathy and will most likely be the primary route to destruction.
Fatticusss@reddit
Nihilists don’t advocate for things
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
They may not advocate for things but I'm certain most woukd agree that humanity is irredeemable and that complete destruction of the human species isn't something shame or fear.
Shppo@reddit
I'm nihilist and I don't agree
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
And many others feel say otherwise. Nihilism is a general belief system. Like any belief system, all people who subscribe to apects of its general principles don't subscribe to the entire belief system. Capitalism was created by humanity. Capitalism is the global standard. Conclusion: humanity is the problem.
Unless you believe humans have a fundamental nature contrary to what capitalism suggests, the root of the problem will always be human nature.
Shppo@reddit
late stage capitalism is controlled and forced on the rest by a small group of greedy sociopaths. its not humanity
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
It's most certainly humanity. A small group of greedy sociopaths can only get what they want if humanity at large goes along with it. It's humanity.
Shppo@reddit
humanity lived for thousands of years without capitalism
gnostic_savage@reddit
It's not merely an absence of capitalism. Capitalism is simply one facet of our primary problem, which is our anthropocentrism, and that problem has many forms. It has the problem of separating humans from the rest of nature, and in doing so it breeds disrespect for everything that is "below" the marvelous creature that us us, humans. Everything that exists is below humans in our scheme of things. It blinds us to the real value of the our world. Capitalism is just one version of our real religion of exploitation for things we don't need, that we can't make without destroying something else beyond our abilities to create.
I agree that humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without this insanity. We still had psychopaths, but at least we didn't create a system for those psychopaths to easily acquire the power of hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of people through wealth accumulation, which they could then use to destroy everyone else.
But all those people had something else; they were Nature cultures, and they had a whole world of different values that went beyond capitalism. They valued the world and its life. They didn't have wealth at all. The world itself was their wealth, and it was abundant beyond anything we can imagine. Being greedy made people social pariahs in a time when being a social pariah was a virtual death sentence.
I agree that it's not "humanity," and it really annoys me that so many people from the culture that is the biggest problem of all universalize in that way. It's a way of not taking responsibility, but also a way of denigrating other humans who did much better, something we don't even acknowledge. We are, we believe, the pinnacle of human evolution, and no one ever knew anything worth knowing compared to us. If they did, we stole the ideas and took credit for them, and we think we thought of it in the first place.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
No, it's a humanity problem. We wouldn't be having this conversation in 2026 if humanity wasn't the problem.
gnostic_savage@reddit
Yes, now I remember this specific point. In a way I do agree with you, because as you said previously, the rest of us go along with the insane program. Humans are "social" creatures, and that is based in biology. We need each other to survive. That need does hardwire us to conform. However, humans have conformed to sustainability as well as to this psychotic and psychopathic fervent belief in exploitation of everything that exists, including other humans.
In addition, this entire world is predicated in violence. It is inherent to life itself. As human animals we do have an understanding of when violence is necessary, as in hunting, which we have done since homo erectus, and when the suffering we cause is unnecessary, or wrong.
Humans aren't my favorite animal, for certain. But in term of sustainability, there have been many societies that lived sustainably for many thousands of years. We wouldn't be having this conversation if wealth seeking western civilization that has invaded the entire planet over 400 of the past 500 years hadn't violently invaded and destroyed all of them.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Humanity lived thousands of years without smartphones too. Humanity still and will always engage in behavior detrimental to society as new tools and systems are created to help continue the tradition of detrimental societal behavior.
Fatticusss@reddit
You don’t understand what Nihilism is
True-Vast-3731@reddit
I don't think humanity is ultimately the problem. I have very little issue with the ways humans have lived for 99% of humanities existence. I may not have agreed with the particulars but the basic structure was not a negative to me. We were far more egalitarian back then and are hard wired to live that way too.
I think humanity can be a net good on the planet. I think we can bring good things to the world just as we have brought destruction in our present times. I see antinatalism as a very reasonable response to the cancer-like way live in the modern world, but I don't see it as a condemnation of what humanity is capable of as a whole.
Bandits101@reddit
Right now 8.3 billion humans and supporting herds comprise over 96% of mammalian biomass. We’ve deforested, killed soil with artificial fertilizer, strip mined the ocean of fish, contaminated and used much of the fresh water.
Where in hell can you find “net good” for pity’s sake. We’ve caused the extinction of more species than we could account for and wildlife exists only if allowed by humans.
Humans burn stuff it defines us. We’ve expanded to every inhabitable part of the Earth. We behave like a pathogen spreading over the planet. I can’t think of any time humanity was a “net good”.
True-Vast-3731@reddit
Who's we? Have all cultures done this? It doesn't seem so to me.
Hunting animals to extinction isn't new although isn't a part of every humans culture. To the extent that it is apart of some, life still finds a way. However for your other claim - about expanding into every habitat on earth and killing everything - that is a feature unique to very specific cultures and if you don't understand that you are not read up on history.
autumn_ghost_boy@reddit
Antinatalism isn’t about destruction or humanity being irredeemable, it’s about the idea that procreation is a massive gamble of potential suffering that is taken on someone else’s behalf, which they can’t consent to beforehand as they don’t exist yet. It’s usually out of compassion for humanity that the stance comes from.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Most antinatalist believe most humans are irredeemable. Antinatalist believe that it is morally wrong to procreate. While the belief is rooted in compassion, the reality is mass acceptance of antinatalism would mean destruction of humanity. Maybe not smash-mouthed brutal destruction, but rather quiet, apathetic, non-violent destruction. Destruction is still destruction. Antinatalist believe in the destruction of humanity.
Avoate@reddit
I think you're describing a side effect of antinatalism here more than the core philosophy. But what I would like to point out is that the effects you're describing are in full swing right now in many developed countries.
"Mass acceptance of antinatalism would mean destruction of humanity" I mean it kind of already does. Birth rates are plummeting. Governments are fuming, but not helping. This kind of belief has become mainstream. See, for example, Japan, South Korea, Germany or even China nowadays.
People don't want to have babies due to the way society is constructed: Either they can't afford it, they don't know how to house themselves and a child (not to mention multiple children), some women feel discriminated against in motherhood, some may see the current course of humanity as undesirable (climate change, wars and poverty).
waffledestroyer@reddit
I don't think humans should reproduce at all, and doing so is highly morally questionable. You are imposing a life of struggle and handing out a death sentence to an innocent person without their consent. Suffering and death are guaranteed, but living a good life is not. Most people in the modern age spawn here and are forced to become slave cattle for evil pdf file elites. Reproducing today is arguably much worse of an idea than doing so 20-30 years ago when things seemed more rosy and hopeful by comparison. All I can really do is let people know it's a bad idea and hopefully spare some of the unborn from entering this hell realm. That said, people will continue to pump out babies until they hit some hard limits. Ultimately, given enough time, my side will win though.
trickortreat89@reddit
Yes, definitely. But is it just me or are we getting fewer and fewer in this sub?
SevereNameAnxiety@reddit
Yeah this sub has degraded in the last few years with what I see as hopium fill humans. I do actually believe that anarcho syndicalism is in need if we even have a chance but the bread and circuses are entirely too powerful. It will never be achieved and we are fucked. Fin
trickortreat89@reddit
Is there a way I can check how many subscribers there used to be in this sub? I’ve been a member for almost 5 years now lol… At first it was a rather “new” concept but nowadays I feel the signs are all there every day, although the big media do not mention it, or only mention it in some small sidestory. I basically get my news about what’s really going on around in the world from here.
SevereNameAnxiety@reddit
I’m sure there is but I couldn’t even begin to steer you in the right direction.
trickortreat89@reddit
Already now just a few days after I made that comment, the subscribers have dropped from 135K to 133K!!! What is happening seriously?
SpookyDooDo@reddit
Yeah what happened? And half the comments seem to be bots arguing with each other.
Did everyone go somewhere else and I missed the memo?
Ok_Repeat_1995@reddit
To me its more like "the world not ending is worse than the end of the world itself." While doomers might think the future is gonna suck, I feel that the doomer meme is centered around financial trading stuff and tech dystopia of trying to make it big in the world but failed and have to deal with living with scraps the capitalist world offers. And dont have in mind that the world is going to get ravaged by climate change way before a undesirable super tech dystopia happens.
No_Name_33@reddit
Not if people start voting for people who believe in using science, global cooperation, community, and good decision making to counter and compensate for the things that are causing the doom. It's in your hands folks, unless you let them take it out of your hands.
Copacetic_Chaos@reddit
I think it’s just a reflection of collapse, which is already well under way.
Bandits101@reddit
I wrote this on r/climate to give them a dose of “doomer content”, …….they are eternally optimistic that “getting off” fossil fuels will save the day.
Yeah “renewables” are extending the time we have to use FF’s. Electricity still requires the FF built and maintained power grid and millions of oil filled transformers. EV’s still need tyres and roads and highway infrastructure built and maintained with FF’s.
Renewables are required to maintain the hybrid energy system that is relied on. Europe and UK would collapse without input from renewables, simply because they don’t produce enough FF’s.
Although “scientists” supposedly tell us how to get off fossil fuels, do they fully explain what will be achieved IF and WHEN it is miraculously attained.
This minute atmospheric CO2 is at 430 PPM. CH4 and other GHG’s likely means it’s above 500 PPM. Those numbers will continue to rise and Earth will continue to absorb millions of atomic bombs of excess heat every second.
Ice is melting at about 300 B tons annually. Ice sheets, shelves and glaciers melting are exposing more ocean and land to warming, albedo is declining increasing warmth retention. Permafrost is thawing and releasing CH4.
So what will be achieved if 8.3 billion humans miraculously, from now on continue civilization with “renewables” energy? Less pollution of course and less plastic and forever chemicals, less atmospheric particulates to block the Sun.
What will be achieved regards to Climate Change and Global Warming……………I think absolutely NOTHING good. GHG’s will continue to rise as oceans continue to warm (even quicker as The Arctic melts) and atmospheric water vapour also rises, continuing a positive feedback of warming.
If you claim that GHG’s concentrations will quickly fall when emissions cease, show me the peer reviewed scientific papers that demonstrate it.
So continue with the so called energy transition but do not expect that to stop, retard, mitigate or eliminate global warming effects of GHG’s. The human caused outgassing pace of GHG’s has no historic precedent. The removal period for past GHG’s does.
The Earth’s carbon cycle occurs over geological time and that is tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of years. We’re at the stage that actually blocking the Sun is the only way to limit warming and allow natural process to reduce GHG’s. That’s very unlikely and dangerous in itself.
tyler98786@reddit
It will actually be worse because of the particulate cooling paradox. The more we switch to renewables and lose particulate matter (which is absolutely bad for human health don't get me wrong) from the burning of fossil fuels prior, the more we lose immediate cooling effects from them, increasing our immediate warming, and strengthening feedback loops even more. If a Carrington level solar event happened today, the planet would warm 1.5-2 degrees Celsius in WEEKS. We are like royally effed no matter what
Bandits101@reddit
True, although I mentioned it.
Siglet84@reddit
That’s the thing I hate about the climate change deniers. They sit there and say “oh so and so said if we don’t change by this date it will all be over and it’s not over”. Thing is, it is over, we’re just getting incrementally worse each year and no one is noticing.
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
Because those climate change deniers fail to notice that climate in countries around the world is indeed changing, and for the worse.
sgm716@reddit
Oh im noticing. The brainwashed business as usual people aren't.
ConfusedMaverick@reddit
They thought when we said "all over" that we meant when Wile E Coyote hit the ground.
No, we meant when he shot over the edge of the cliff.
Siglet84@reddit
Great analogy. We are in free fall now.
cohortq@reddit
Like a lobster in boiling pot
daviddjg0033@reddit
solar manahement by cloud brightening will lead to a time the temperatures are reversed/halted the questioms will be what is the over/under on the events that happen to force the hand as the last ditch effort. how much biodiversity is lost or why our need to document the deep sea has been met with trawlers that scoop up the sealfoor and everything else. not that this is happening this summer in our coral reefs but Amazon, deep sea and other ecosystems should have been on Mars to generate more interest. the acid test Hansen referred to has given us 21C oceans going into unfamiliar el/nino/nina natural variability with 430ppn and rising explains 2026-2046. or whenever the jerk or acceleration slows down. no not venus runaway just plain old earth radiatimg into space T^4. which tells you a lot about the fuckton of joules the earth is absorbing from co2 ch4 nox sf6+ H20 - aerosols. do you see anything slowing down without increasing the minus, albedo? and give ourselves time to ironically burn more or less fossil fuels to adapt for the "born too late." or place the seed vault in permafrost and watch it melt?
JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit
Get some sleep
TheIceKing420@reddit
why is the word scientists in quotes?
Bandits101@reddit
As I mentioned, it was a reply to a comment on r/climate, not relevant here.
bipolarearthovershot@reddit
I’m convinced r/climate is captured by fossil fuel related mods
Fatticusss@reddit
Yeah that sub is a waste of time
trickortreat89@reddit
Hard agree. Renewable energy alone is like step one on this downward spiral, we need to stop using more ressources as well that our planet can produce each year. We’re surpassing the planetary limit in almost every way possible. An electric car won’t stop that.
Ree_For_Thee@reddit
Agree with everything. It probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure this stuff out (that we're failing at civilisation). It's just that people are ignorant as all fuck these days. There's just very little time spent trying to understand, meaning you just don't care.
No_Specialist6905@reddit
Yes, we live in hyper technological times that accelerate rapidly the global collapse. Honestly I'm more afraid about what will happen if collapse doesn't happen. Misanthrope like me don't want to see the power of humanity getting bigger and strengthening it's grip over everything else.
GardenScared8153@reddit
"hyper technological times" compared to what is out there is caveman level of technology. In the grand scheme of things humanity is at has just discovered fire level of tech. Cabal have more advanced tech in black project hidden from the masses but even they are still at caveman level.
Avoate@reddit
Fermi-Paradoxon/Great Filter Theory
GardenScared8153@reddit
that's just human narcissism to assume nothing out there is a hundred times more intelligent than humans and that humans are at the center of the universe or dramatic music super gods enslaved by the demiurge
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Fellow misanthrope here. Agreed.
DaddyLongLegs867@reddit
It's definitely a sign of the times that we live in imo
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
It is a sign, especially for a post-doomer such as myself.
CocoanutVA@reddit
"post-doomer"?
TheArcticFox444@reddit
Here's an old one: "Shit happens. That's life. It ain't fair. Get used to it."
Iamnotauserdude@reddit
How much of this do y’all think has to do with finding out (in 2020) how little a majority of humans do not care at all about their neighbors, much less want the best for them?
hillierprotech@reddit
It's a sign that the majority of people are now chronically online. Remember when it was uncool to be online all the time? You'd turn the internet on for 2 hours to send a few emails and research for a project. If you don't remember, it wasn't that long ago at all in real terms.
Even as late as 2010 people weren't permanently online because it required turning on an actual computer. Once you left your house you were "offline". You were online via your work computer but you didn't scroll reddit all day.
Side note, when twitter came out and people were taking photos of their food on there, I thought this is a stupid platform it will never take off. You can only write a sentence or two, people aren't vapid enough to scroll through such nonsense. They want to read actual thought pieces and creative works. Remember this is the time of blogger.com et al.
I was wrong. Look where blogger is now.
boringfantasy@reddit
People being chronically online is a sign in itself of a societal collapse.
Tiny_Time_4196@reddit
To be the devil's advocate (not a doomer in this case), it could also just simply be a symptom of most people never being taught how to cope with stress, frustration, tiredness, etc. properly.
Nobody is born with self-control, discipline, and a sense of great responsibility. When these are not transferred from older humans to younger ones, you get what is happening today.
Now why are these principles not transferred to most young people early on in their lives? That is a whole other can of worms.
I am not trying to say it is all people's fault, all I am is that every coin has two sides, and the world doesn't inflict everything on everybody. It takes two to tango as they say.
Popular_Dirt_1154@reddit
Religious indoctrination has been largely replaced with consumerism.
Buying things, shopping, browsing or scrolling are all things that are bad for us as human individuals trying to be happy but are very good for the economy.
I would say this is largely or entirely dictated by ones environment, and the environment of the modern day is one that is fundamentally opposed to having or developing these things. I have been diagnosed ADHD I have been given drugs by doctors to help treat it, when I was young I thought my brain was broken and that's just the way it was, I was always going to struggle with motivation and focus. I don't take the stimulants anymore and have been trying to find a way to progress without them for a couple years.
Then I visited a monastery, a free retreat offered by monks in my area and everything felt very different. the environment was different. No internet or screens, just a small library, some nice walking trails, and a basic schedule with chores and meditation. And I didn't have any problems, scrolling reddit become reading for 4-5 hours a day because I was bored and there was nothing else to do. Meditation was much easier, the life was simpler. It was basically just having a few choices to make at any moment. Reading/Studying, meditating or walking.
This is all to say that the experience at the monastery fundamentally changed my views regarding ADHD, motivation and discipline in general. I think the world humans have built on greed and excessive consumption is a massive drain on everyone's effort towards being disciplined and the happiness that comes from it.
We need to simplify our lives but that is very hard, because the world and all the pleasures it offers to our insatiable senses are very alluring, but lead to disaster.
hillierprotech@reddit
Societies have collapsed before without such lightning fast methods of communication. This is probably the first time we get to watch our own frenzy and despair as it falls apart.
During the Luddite revolution the Home Office failed to appreciate that the northern UK counties were devolving into violent armed (muskets and pistols, early 1800s UK society was probably closer to the militias of the early US) riots because mail was so slow and open to misunderstandings.
These things have been happening for a while, but previously they were documented in longer prose and from a longer time horizon where the authors look somewhat prescient in their arguments. Think Club of Rome, or Small is Beautiful. It is of course hard to be alarmed about an event that you are predicting 25-50 years into the future.
To your point of being chronically online is a sign in itself of a societal collapse, I don't see the correlation. If anything being chronically online is what has brought about social collapse. It is a fair part of the cause imo but not the symptom. You are alluding to the idea that a symptom of a collapsing society is people return inwards (through despair?) and stay online longer. It's an argument that is hard to evidence either way because the rise of smartphones and 24/7 connectivity has grown up around a collapsing world.
The last time we had societal breakdown during the great depression we had large patterns of migration. Out of work men left their families and rode trains in the freight cars or illegally or just walked in search of greener pastures. In a world of instant communication perhaps know that there are no greener pastures to migrate to and will doomscroll instead.
No_Recognition_9354@reddit
I recommend the song Another World is Inevitable by Thou. Angry, loud, and a lamentation for what should be, and what we’ve missed
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
There's also End Of The World by Beast in Black. That song explains some point about the end of the world, also known as the Armageddon.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Angry, loud lamentation is what a lot of people need right now.
NyriasNeo@reddit
"Do you think society is worth fighting for?'
Whatever I think is irrelevant. It will go down the expected path. Clearly few cares enough and there is no fighting for it. "Drill baby drill" won, you know.
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
Because over 70 million American citizens voted for Donald Trump during 2024's Presidential Elections, while a similar a number of American citizens didn't vote.
It's a clear sign of apathy.
Wrong_Organization29@reddit
We are in collapse, it's not 'brewing'. It's just really painfully slow. We should have 'collapsed' in 2008 at least financially.
ampliora@reddit
The systematic suppression of the truth is the only sign of societal collapse.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Every single time.
MaestroLogical@reddit
Honestly, no.
Doomer content has always been a thing, it's just that in the past you had to purposely seek it out, subscribe to fringe publications and 'fanzines' and typically surround yourself with other like minded individuals in makeshift militias or others such groups in order to hear about it.
Now, all you have to do is scroll for a few minutes.
Just like we used to have to buy tabloids to hear conspiracy theories and gossip, but now they are omnipresent.
The internet amplifies everything and it can make it seem like things are new, when in fact they are time honored and ancient.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Good point. I recently went down a habit whole of a bunch of nostalgic videos from the 70s to 90s and was blown away by how similar the ideas, trends and vernacular was back then to now. I find my self having certain thoughts thinking no on has ever put them out before only to stumble upon vintage videos of people saying the exact same thing.
I do think the main difference is the amplification of everything due to the internet. While certain things have always been around, you can't deny that these things are having a much more potent effect in society. More people are being affected than ever and you can't deny the clear collective shift in general social behavior from then to now. All of the technology has drastically changed ir amplified how people function and behave. Even if the thoughts were always there, technology has made people a lot more bold in doing and saying things they likely wouldn't have said or done generations ago. For good or bad.
va_wanderer@reddit
The more people see something reflected in their daily life, the more they consume content related to it. And people have developed a tolerance for hopium.
Bread is short, circuses can't make up for it. Historically, that usually ends up in collapse.
adamsoutofideas@reddit
The more people talk about something, the more real it gets
Financial_Long_1588@reddit
There is a market for misery right now. A big one. It's not some coincidence
MonoNoAware71@reddit
There's an alarming rise in 'content'.
GardenScared8153@reddit
We absolutely do need full on anarchy(no rulers that is) because the people driving with everyone on board are just downright evil, sucking the life force out of everyone while turning this planet into a reality tv game show. Anarchy(no rulers) would be much better than our current situation, if done in an anarcho syndicalism flavor it might bring humanity out of its short term pursuit of profit and towards resilience+ ets might finally come help us out without having to worry avout getting blown up/kidnapped by our fascist states.
You are very much gaslighting individuals who don't have a lot of power or enough power to make substantial changes to the world order beyond at most growing their own food forest as part of a community assuming they have some level of land ownership /wealth(they aren't one paycheck away from homelessness so they are trapped by their 9 to 5) to sustain themselves while doing so and the right knowledge to bring about a solid resilient food forest and process what it provides to meet their needs(considering they've never farmed in their life before and food forests are super complex to do right). Note that a food forest takes 10 years to build up soil amd get really productive so meanwhile we still have to get food from the farmers raping the earth wirh round up.
With the upcoming climate change onslaught, short of some lightyears more advanced et race showing up to terraform the planet or do some magic engineering to get us back to a stable climate not even the wealthiest most powerful individuals on this planet can do anything to stop the incoming calamity even if we were to all stop burning fossil fuels in this very minute. The warming is already locked in, feedback loops are gonna kick in and take us to venus, that's all without mentioning the myriad of existantial problems we have regardless of stable weather like soil depletion, pollution, microplastics, biodiversity collapse, insect apocalypse, urban planning built around cars with abudance of oil, peak oil, peak everything, endless wars, a really powerful cabal hell bent on destroying humanity on their way out. You won't vote your way out of this because no matter who gets elected they'd end up working foe the cabal at gunpoint, so et race coming to terraform the planet would need to bring assassins to violently deal with the cabal.
AI definitely speeds up collapse by consuming an ungodly amount of energy and water to output slop and reduce wages, it's still the least of our problems. cope with that.
mythicalhermit@reddit (OP)
Wasn't trying to gaslight anyone. Though I guess considering this question is centered societal change rather than change in one's own personal life, I can see how it looks like I am undermining the lack of a power many people have to make a substantial difference on a societal level. However, in the video I talk about at minimum making a change in one's own personal life. I know asking someone to be response of society at large is a large order, but I notice there are lots of "doomers" who don't even want to use the power they do have to make a change in their own lives.
Bleusilences@reddit
Doomer content always existed and it's kind of part of the system to discourage people to actually do something to change their material condition.
For example someone who doesn't vote in an election de facto vote for the winner.
HardNut420@reddit
The algorithm rewards people mid crash out
autobots22@reddit
Algorithm
IntoTheCommonestAsh@reddit
I don't think a fear can't be a sign of what it's afraid of. Surely the logic goes the other way.