i have the stock SUZUKI IGNIS FH 4WD bought for 1000 Euros with 197KM and im super intrested in reworking the car to transform it into an full city and offroad like in the second image. Whats your thoughts guys?
Posted by WarOk8799@reddit | projectcar | View on Reddit | 33 comments
FalseRelease4@reddit
try to find tires that are close to the stock size, otherwise theres a great chance that some place will have clearance issues
SomeJayForToday@reddit
Everyone’s already had something to say about the technical aspects, but considering one of the aesthetic aspects: I think the drab colour is very boring. Everyone’s offroad build already has poorly applied matte olive or sand paint. The factory gives it way more character in my opinion.
JPNG1@reddit
I have an Ignis sport so fairly familiar with the platform and have taken it to some silly places on trackday tyres and coilovers
My advice would be get a sump guard, keep the lift minimal, if you lift at all then look into the suspension from the 4wd ignis variant, and get some Panda 4x4 tyres from italy.
If you keep it lightweight and pick sensible lines you’ll get further than you think without dumping loads of time and money into modifications where you’d be better off getting an actual 4x4.
Lifting the rear is pretty easy with solid rear beam, you just need longer springs and shocks. (don’t know if anyone sells them for the ignis but can be custom made relatively cheaply if you shop around) or spring platforms (again, doubt anyone sells them already), but lifting the front you will quickly run into the limitations of the suspension. Raising the front will give you lots of positive camber. The ignis doesn’t have a subframe so subframe drop isn’t an option. Engine and gearbox are mounted at three points and would require fabrication work to lower, the steering tie rods run through a hole in the chassis so can’t travel far.
WarOk8799@reddit (OP)
By the way mine is the 4x4 version
Kennylobster8899@reddit
This will make the car horrible to drive on the road and horrible to drive off road. Get a road car and an off road suv and if you must have one, pick which one you'd use more
Massive_Blueberry630@reddit
It's already horrible to drive on the road
Junt_Tog@reddit
Im probably showing my age here, but whatever. If you need aux lighting, I would drop the LED bar in favor of some KC Daylights. I've just always thought round aux lights looked 'cooler'. But hey man, your car, you do you. Just throwing my opinion out there. Overall though, it looks dope. I like the direction youre headed.
JPNG1@reddit
KCs are nice but pricey, I’d get some second hand hellas on ebay
Massive_Blueberry630@reddit
Ep92?
sgt_Berbatov@reddit
I'm showing my age here, but I think he should sack the light bar off altogether and stick spot lights on the front of it, like a proper 90s rally car. He could have a pod on the bonnet.
Junt_Tog@reddit
Yea... Thats where my head was at too. I was thinking pod on grill or full roofrack with rounds on the front of the rack.
JPNG1@reddit
They did sell a bonnet pod as a dealer option on the sport but they are hen’s teeth and prices reflect that
sgt_Berbatov@reddit
If they were going for the roof rack/box thing then yeah, spot lights there. But if it were me, I'd put two big spot lights in place of the fog lights (like what the Subarus used to have in the WRC), then I'd guess 3 spot lights across the front of the grill.
I have started looking at the Ignis now wondering if I should get one myself now!
themanseanm@reddit
I think light bars almost always look horrible. On or off. Doesn't look nearly as cool as round lights, especially when they have the covers on.
Once they were actually used by offroaders to see but realistically the only use for this is to blind people.
Threewisemonkey@reddit
Crash bar with 2-4 lights in front of the grill. Keep th car yellow and throw smiley face covers on the lights
nerfnerf630@reddit
I think that's a terrible idea. Good luck
techstyles@reddit
I love it - will probably make the car worse on the road but it's cool. Make sure to post it on r/battlecars when it's done!
bretti_kivi@reddit
Couple of starting point on the light side could be from valostore.fi. the purelux stuff is generally decent value from what I can see (I haven't powered up the alpha 30s I added as reverse lights yet). Lazer is lovely but expensive. The linear 24 i have is very, very good, but more is more. there are likely to be rules about how much light you can add without switching it.
If you want an excuse to have a deadline and trip to work with (we know how good the suzuki systems can be), I am running ice track again in mid February somewhere near Viittasaari in Finland. Should only be -20C and 45cm of lake ice to drive on....
drunkenmagnum24@reddit
Will probably make it simultaneously a worse on and off road vehicle.
suckingalemon@reddit
This is the answer.
TurboDorito@reddit
You're either gonna run into issues with suspension geometry or arch clearance. I'd look into that first.
Neither are impossible to solve but you need to know before you start.
WarOk8799@reddit (OP)
I’m going to a specialized off road garage where they check all the things you need for it to be properly installed
nostradumbass7544678@reddit
This isn't a problem of installing the correct parts, it's a question of being able to engineer and fabricate the parts you'd need to be able to get the alignment somewhere close to okay. Unless someone's done it before, you'll be spending more than buying a more capable car would cost.
TurboDorito@reddit
Im sure good garages exist, but in my experience I wouldnt pay anyone to do a job I didnt know how to already do myself. That way you know if youre getting the correct thing and if the work is to a good standard.
Ziggarot@reddit
Other cars tend to lower the subframe. If that can be done it would solve 2 problems by improving wheel well clearance and improving axel geometry
CocoonNapper@reddit
The articulation - right on. "Offroad" cars that are actually not for serious offroad will have lift kits that rely on using spacers to lift the car, which are placed inside or ontop the strut assembly. Your wheels will go inwards, and you'll need to get cam bolts, if they even make them for your vehicle. But it usually doesn't workout just like this, there's issues. Did it with an 06 2.2 diesel Rav4, made it "offroad" - it's just not made for it and had to swallow that one whole.
ManufacturerLost7686@reddit
You can probably do 40mm lift without any major issues, just standard lift kit made up of spacers. The stock suspension is fairly forgiving.
After that you'd run into issues that needs custom fabricated parts. It shares parts of its layout with the Swift, which has more aftermarket parts, but nothing offroad related.
Getting AT tires that size will be a problem too. You might be able to cram toyos smallest AT tires 215/70/15 onto there with spacer, or rims with different offset, but its gonna be tight as hell.
WarOk8799@reddit (OP)
Im gonna do all the customization in a off road specialized garage
wolowbolob@reddit
Bigger and chunckier tyres will be very noise on the highway do keep that in mind. So if you plan on never going off road dont do it.
And you should start with general maintance since everything is probably rusted to shit underneath and in the suspension.
Maintance ( brakes, oil , suspension, belts)
Modifying
WarOk8799@reddit (OP)
For the maintance part im going through all the maintaince it needs and i have checked for rust and it has zero being used only in city before i bought it
WarOk8799@reddit (OP)
In gonna keep normal tyres for the road and highway and use the offroad tires only when im going offroad or camping
phate_exe@reddit
Making a serious offroader out of it is probably more work than is remotely worthwhile (and would make the car suck on the street).
But I don't see any reason why you couldn't lift it slightly, add larger all terrain tires (or winters), put a light/bash bar on the front bumper, and put a skid plate under it. That plus a bit of momentum will take you all sorts of places that car was never meant to go, especially since it's so small that you can choose easier lines over/around/through obstacles.
Think r/battlecars or gambler 500.
cateraide420@reddit
The tires will cost more than the car. A flat will total your vehicle haha. Jk