Anybody else looking at divorce as we get older?
Posted by Tiny_Noise8611@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 345 comments
Not sure what is happening but in my mid-50s and find myself deeply irritated with the old mate and old arguments after decades keep coming back around. Can’t figure out if this truly something I want or another phase in our marriage? Looking for anonymous comradarie, I guess. 🤷🤷🏻♀️
NeeNee9@reddit
The two happiest groups of people are married men and single women.
ChevronSugarHeart@reddit
Amen
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
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Carrera_996@reddit
I've met all husbands of my wife's friends. I believe you. Those guys weren't looking for life partners. They were looking for maids that put out.
RealStarkey@reddit
Except that I’ve met even more wives who weren’t looking for life partners, but ATM machines that they could yell at and blame for all their problems.
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
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DontHugMe73@reddit
This is how it happens. Eventually those maids get tired.
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Iltempered1@reddit
I'm 51 and need to get a divorce, been separated for 20 years. My current girlfriend of 16 years has mentioned it, but uncontested divorce is ridiculously priced especially when it only cost $75 to make the damn mistake.
ChevronSugarHeart@reddit
You do realize that your “wife” gets to make important decisions about end of life? Separated is not the same as divorced and she gets half your assets. How does your girlfriend feel about that?
TXtogo@reddit
Bro can’t afford to get the divorce I don’t know that his assets are going to be a source of heated debate… you can like do an uncontested divorce online almost, it’s so simple. It’s nonsense that he’s left this undone for 20 years.
Iltempered1@reddit
I left it this way because we had kids and I didn't want to put them through a nasty divorce. She is super vindictive and petty, she would have fought it all they way, tooth and nail, just so she didn't have to pay child support(she never gave me a dime). The state had already tried to force me to pay child support on her third child(the reason we separated), even though she wasn't giving me money for the two children I was raising, they even tried to take my driver's license, it was a huge fiasco and my boys deserved better. Might be nonsense to you, but I love my kids and didn't want them to see that side of their mother. My life isn't perfect and I probably should have done something as soon as my youngest turned 18, but I've had other priorities. Sorry this was so long.
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
There’s a way to make the nonsense end.
TXtogo@reddit
Cmon man, you said uncontested divorce and raised the price as the issue. Now it’s a sob story, this is just pathetic. Your kids deserved to see how a man handles his business, not nonsense procrastination and excuses. I know that’s harsh but if you come to be talking about you did this for your kids I’m going to tell you that you didn’t do them any favors by setting a super messy example. Nobody expects anyone to be perfect but at least keep it real.
Iltempered1@reddit
Whatever bro, you don't know her and you don't know me and my kids. Not a sob story, it's the truth. Who hurt you bro?!
TXtogo@reddit
Nobody hurt me, I can spot a textbook bs story a mile away. Own your stuff.
Iltempered1@reddit
Good thing you aren't cynical. Hope your hurt goes away someday. Try and have a nice day buddy.
TXtogo@reddit
Boo hoo. Im so cynical.
That’s literally the defining characteristic of GenX
You know what isn’t - not owning your stuff. It’s ok to be unapologetic, but having no self awareness and making excuses, that’s some crippling stuff. You have a good day too, don’t smoke too much pot for your kids.
jchasse@reddit
I’m 53, my ex-wife and I were married for 30 years, separated, living apart for the last 10. There was a period of about two years after we separated where we didn’t talk (that’s on me). Shortly after the separation, we saw a mediator. I kept my 401(k) and my truck, she kept the house. No argument, frankly, I felt like she could have whatever she wanted, leading up to the separation, I’ve been a bit of a dick.
Anyway, we separated in 2015, live separate lives, had separate lovers, other than those two years we were basically best friends. Starting around 2018, I would ask around the new year “ what do you think about getting divorced?” and for whatever reason her response was “no”. I didn’t push it, just asked every year… january of 24 she said “yes”. I told her don’t worry I’ll take care of everything, and then for fear of complexity, dragged my feet for a year. Finally in January 2025, I said “fuck it” and went to an online site that walks you filling out the paperwork for your state, then prints the finished forms. Full disclosure the online forms didn’t exactly match the ones I got from the district court, but the content was all the same. So I just sat down with both packets and transposed the relevant info from the former to the later. Didn’t take me 15 minutes.
Once submitted, because of Maine law, I had to wait 60 days to get a court date, got our court date, it was a tele-session. Process was basically, me “I don’t”, her “I don’t”, judge “You ain’t”. I won’t lie it was a little emotional even though we hadn’t lived together for 10 years, but admittedly are still friends. A very important point, there was no contested property or alimony, and no children requiring visitation or child support.
The whole point of this is to tell you, if you guys have split and there’s nothing that you’re arguing over (and your state doesn’t have some super wacky process) the whole thing is likely extremely easier than your brain is making it out to be.
Also if your girlfriend of 16 years has mentioned divorce, fucking do it. When women mention something in passing, they aren’t just sort of thinking about it out loud like men do, they’re telling us out loud what they want and testing how fuk’n thick we are. No joking, if you love this woman, get divorced, like yesterday. Having finally done it last year, I wish I had done it years ago (btw I justified not doing it using the same $75 dollars to get married…)
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
And honestly cut the cords. As a woman? I wouldn’t touch a man still holding on like that.
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
If you’re separated? Just pull the trigger. Or move to a cheaper state to do it.
Something_morepoetic@reddit
Our county has forms you can complete yourself and just pay the filing fee. That’s what we did.
DontHugMe73@reddit
Unfortunately not every county or state is allowed to do that. 😞
elizajaneredux@reddit
Find the money and do it anyway. This has a ton of consequences for you and your estate after you die.
rsint@reddit
this whole thread just reads like it should be on the menopause misandrie subs.
whatiftheyrewrong@reddit
A lot of men aren’t great.
GenX-ModTeam@reddit
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Ferrindel@reddit
A lot of people aren’t great.
user0987234@reddit
Ages and stages.
In case my spouse ever reads this, I love you and want the best for you, whatever comes our way. However, there are limits to what I can endure.
Perimenopause + debilitating pain after a surgery has made my spouse more than difficult to live with at times. Others would have left.
But, I made a commitment in our vows, for better or worse, in sickness and in health.
She carried a a lot of the marriage at first, bore our kids, worked in social services.
We may fight, be cold and distant at times.
I am keeping and honouring my vows. That to me, while seemingly insane, is part of my responsibility and my faith.
I am not asking for a divorce. I am not building extra-marital-relationships. Marriage is a sacred contract for me. If she asks for a divorce, then we will talk more. Perhaps get to have some conversations that marriage therapy and counselling could not fix.
If we agree there is no chance or reconciliation after she has tried HRT, it’ll come down to a financial decision, as I will have to pay support. Arguably, our shared faith may force us to a place of forgiveness and open doors to a better marriage.
Ages and stages. We don’t know what the future holds.
Ok-Development2520@reddit
I imagine at this age most women become caretakers for their partners..
Pinknailzz69@reddit
Perhaps it’s just if the men have been caretaking the first 30 years.
DontHugMe73@reddit
Where are these men? 😂
Available-Bison-9222@reddit
I think child rearing and work keeps us really busy so when issues in a marriage arise they are pushed aside because we don't have the time or energy to deal with them. Then when children become adults and we are facing retirement the marital issues can't be ignored anymore. Divorce in the over 50's is the most common and has doubled since the 1990's. I have definitely contemplated divorce over the past few years because of past hurts and the distance that had grown between us. Luckily my husband was open to very frank and honest discussions, but I had to be open to criticism too. The past couldn't be undone but behaviour could be acknowledged. We were able to talk about what we wanted to change going forward and in all honesty most of the chanes weren't major. We did have to accept certain things were just part of who we are - for example: he's a worrier, I'm an ostrich, and we have agreed to have time to chat about his worries but making sure the negativity doesn't take over everything.
I would highly recommend therapy, for yourself and as a couple, to get straight what your issues are and if your relationship is worth saving.
DontHugMe73@reddit
This is the best post here.
basahahn1@reddit
I’m 49. We’ve been married for 16 years and together for 18. Three kids that are teenagers now
I’m done
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
It’s hard with teens. Things settle when the stress of the kids passes. Hang in there.
Humble-Tradition-187@reddit
My partner started doing this grumpy old man schtick in his 40s and it quickly got old. I basically told him I wasn’t interested in living with a grumpy a hole for the rest of my life and thankfully he got it together. Marriage counseling helped give me a place to say this to him in a more loving way, and helped him hear it in a way that actually helped him change. I think marriage counseling is always good if both people are willing. If not then the writing is on the wall anyway.
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
💯
Initial_Run1632@reddit
Did he have any insight into why he started becoming this way? It's a pattern I've seen with a couple friends, and I wonder if there's a reason?
HunnyBunny617@reddit
We just celebrated 31 yrs. I recommend marriage therapy, not just when couples are having problems, but periodically. There are lots of things in a marriage that can make the road rocky; children, jobs, aging, goals. Having a non-biased party to help navigate those stages is good. Learning how to communicate without anger, while being supportive that your partner has strong feelings about something is immeasurably important. But both parties have to want to make it work. Communication only works when both people have buy-in.
senatortrashcan@reddit
44, together 20 years, just asked for a separation last night.
BmanGorilla@reddit
Not at all. We will survive peri-menopause. We made vows, and I’m a man of my word.
DontHugMe73@reddit
I’m 53 and I feel the same, only my husband wants to move to the east coast near the beach and I have no interest. It looks like I will have to make a hard choice. I like my job and I like kayaking with my dogs and don’t want to move to alligator infested hurricane country. It’s not negotiable and a gray divorce is ugly financially so I feel. If I were to divorce, I wouldn’t remarry or even repartner. I do love him, I just don’t think we’re compatible.
United_Concept1654@reddit
My ex had a mental break down and wanted out after 25 years of marriage. We are both happier now.
JenninMiami@reddit
I’m divorced and I’m happier than I’ve ever been in my life. I have zero plans to ever date again.
senatortrashcan@reddit
Living my dream
coldbrewedsunshine@reddit
single for five years and this is also me 😂
Brother_Farside@reddit
26 years strong. My wife is my best friend.
ReasonableBack8472@reddit
46(m), left 2 years ago currently going through the divorce, getting (what I will say is) soft road blocks in regards to finalising it all.
Am I glad I left, yes (except for the kids).
Am I struggling atm cause I am getting screwed left right and centre from Child Support? Yep.
Is she crying poor, but still seems to be able to do takeaway each week, get her (and our daughters) nails done regularly. Yep..
Am I over it... Fuck yeah!
WiscoDJ920@reddit
I did it when I hit 40. My sister also filed for hers as well shortly after she turned 40.
Silver_Breakfast7096@reddit
It’s menopause and your bullshit tolerance. I love my husband but he’s very set where we are and I want to escape- travel. Do stuff. Try new things. He’s content to putz around the house, cook a nice meal and chill. I got a second wind and don’t care for wasting it on the couch.
divergurl1999@reddit
Got my divorce in my late 40s after 19 years of marriage. He left me with our then 16 year old son. But it was the best thing. I had a bad crush on a guy in 7th grade and we refound each other as he was going through divorce too. That was 2015.
We married in 2021 and then he had a heart attack and died in 2022 within 3 months of also losing his 2 brothers. 2022 really sucked, bigtime.
He gave me the best 7 years of my life and I learned what true love looks and feels like. My son got to see his mom truly happy and a good example of how a woman should be treated. He was the healthiest relationship I had ever been in and it opened my eyes to so much abuse I was still putting up with from my own parents even though I wasn’t a child anymore. I had no healthy relationships my entire life until he walked back into my life.
I hate that he is gone. I wasn’t finished loving him and now I have all this love that has nowhere to go. That’s some fierce grief I’m not sure I’ll ever get over, but he was worth all this pain. Even if I had known he was going to die just after his 48th birthday, I’d still do it all again. I would have just packed more living in those 7 precious years than we already did. I have had a lot of bad things to deal with since his passing, homelessness being an experience since, but I consider myself lucky that I had him at all for those 7 years. Sweetest and most respectful, hard working man I have ever known. He was perfect for me.
Shoddy-Reply-7217@reddit
Oh goodness that's a hard story to read, but also wonderful to know that you've truly loved and seen what is possible.
Hugs from an internet stranger.
No-Reading-4384@reddit
So sad
Deruji@reddit
Back in a sec going to hug my wife and explain why I’m crying
NZT-48Rules@reddit
I'm so sorry for your loss :/
Standard-Cockroach64@reddit
Married at 43, now over a decade later still no fights or arguments.
Shoddy-Reply-7217@reddit
F55.
The year I turned 50 I looked at my husband in his pyjamas on the PlayStation and realised that once our son left home for university I'd be alone with this man for the rest of my life. It became pretty clear that I needed to pull the plug now rather than just let it fester until it became an affair or anger.
We hadn't had sex in years, spent our social lives with separate groups of friends and we weren't even nice to each other. It was like living with a grumpy, lazy flatmate.
Luckily we divorced amicably (mostly because he couldn't be bothered to express much emotion). We co parent 50/50 and our son is starting university in October.
I have a lovely home that's always clean, a new partner who thinks I'm the sexiest thing alive, and I now wake up with a smile on my face.
Repulsive-Carpet9400@reddit
I was the guy that worked 60 hours per week and was too tired to do anything after chores, yardwork, etc.
Dozed off at the movies once.
Couldn't get motivated to even go to a house party, let alone spend two weeks at the beach.
I know what I did wrong.
No excuses, but I'm hard wired that way, as it comes from my parents. And, it's not like my behavior changed from honeymoon to divorce.
I'm at peace knowing that I'm not a bad guy at all, just not marriage material to my ex.
Video gamers are weird, lol.But I was addicted to pinball in my 20s.
Shoddy-Reply-7217@reddit
I hear you.
Tbh if my ex had been hard working professionally I'd have understood, but I was also earning twice his salary and paying 2/3 of the joint bills, and commuting into London every day while he was working from home (and having a joint at lunchtime).
You had an excuse at least! ;)
downwiththewoke@reddit
Omggg love this!
Sweaty-Seat-8878@reddit
one hidden or not so hidden cause in this is lack of outside friends. Asking your spouse to be the sole source of entertainment and support over decades is a tough one.
Nira_50@reddit
This. I have friends and a therapist, so a strong support network. My spouse does not. It's exhausting and really becomes a problem when I don't have the capacity to provide support.
wormee@reddit
Twice 😂
BetterGoogleit17@reddit
I'm on my third marriage
thornyrosary@reddit
I'm 24 years into my marriage. One of the things that keeps the relationship going is that we both know that the past can sour your present and destroy your future. A lot of things have happened over the years. Some of it was extremely toxic, and damaging, had the behaviors been allowed to continue. We have learned to change what we each do, and to forgive and forget, and to move on.
Someone brings up this-or-that from a decade or so ago? Um, didn't we already resolve this issue? Then why are you now resurrecting it from the dead as an argument point? Your bringing it up means you actually haven't resolved this issue in your mind. This is an issue for us both. So let's resolve this, once and for all, so we don't argue over it for decades more. Why do you think this incident bothers you so much that you cling to it...?
The other thing here is that as people, we change over time. Your spouse is not the person you originally married. Neither are you. Things in your partner that you tolerated in your 30s now feels like a thorn in your side. And that's okay, it happens. But communication is key. That other person might not know that what they're doing, which was okay by you in the past, is now creating a situation for you that puts the whole relationship in jeopardy.
And that's something you need to ask yourself: have you both changed over time into someone the other person does not actively like? Is it just a few things, or the overall person, which is making you question the viability of the entire relationship? If it's just a few things, this might be something that can be worked on. But if you find yourself holding contempt for the entire person, then yes, perhaps it's time to cut your losses.
Roseliberry@reddit
This
Reading_Tourista5955@reddit
“Contempt for the entire person” is divorce-ready. Even 80% is unworkable. stubborn addictions too. The grass is truly greener. And alone is sublime after this.
CollarLast6572@reddit
It’s cheaper to keep her.
redheeler9478@reddit
Yeah I know but it would be nice to date somebody that wants to be around me.
hkusp45css@reddit
Oof.
Starkville@reddit
Thankfully, no.
UserNameInGeorgia@reddit
If you’re female, look into HRT.
chillaxtion@reddit
My wife and I are building a house together. It feels a lot like starting over. We’re so lucky to be able to do it. It’s interesting because we need to discard so much for the downside. I feel like we’re leaving a lot behind.
I often wonder if it just becomes harder to be comfortable with who I became. In some ways the new house, the discarding of all the things, the recommitment to the very complicated process feels like a divorce from the staleness that can set in.
theshallowdrowned@reddit
“downsize” not “downside”, right?
chillaxtion@reddit
Edited, thanks.
potato_for_cooking@reddit
Married at 49. Never going back. Best decision ive ever made.
RoughAd5377@reddit
Considering I didn’t marry until my 40’s, I couldn’t be happier. Together 12 years now. I was single and happy and having fun but I took my time into mid age for my partner in life. Now he is the best thing that ever happened to me.
Ymisoqt420@reddit
I'm definitely retiring alone or with some good girlfriends
phoenix_rising_76@reddit
50m. Divorced 3yrs ago after nearly 25yrs of marriage. At the time it was a bit of a shock when she left but honestly.... I really enjoy my life now. I thought about dating the first year or so. Primarily because we are trained from childhood that we're supposed to be in a relationship to be successful. But I never got around to dating. Now I have no desire to date.
I do what I want, when I want, with whom I want. I'm usually quite busy with my kids but my point still stands. My life is just so peaceful and freeing now.
sultj@reddit
How long after did the shock and sadness finally fade away? Also how did this affect your kids? This might be me soon I’m 56 and 22 years married.
phoenix_rising_76@reddit
Honestly the shock was quite bad for the first 8 months or so. I truly thought she was my best friend for life.
Then the holidays after the divorce was finalized l went into a bit of a depression for a few months. My life had been all about survival and making sure the kids were okay that I never dealt with myself.
The kids all went with me. Once over the initial shock and trauma, they bounced back pretty quickly. Kids are resilient. They all love our lives now.
The only odd thing, not a single one has chosen to date yet. They all say they're not opposed, they just have no desire to rush into drama.
Revolutionary_Bee700@reddit
Same! Being single is sweet.
mrsdigi@reddit
Nope. Our 30th is in June. He’s the love of my life.
elizajaneredux@reddit
I divorced in my 40s after 20 years of marriage. It was painful but necessary and I’m happier these days.
BakedGoods_101@reddit
people here suggesting the reason for their divorces is perimenopause/menopause, it really isn't. Hormonal changes specially estrogen means we are less inclined to be the nurturing, supportive all-accepting partner and mother type. Doesn't mean it's the cause for the break up. If your relationship was strong, peri/meno will not break it. The real problem is that society expect women to never change, always obey, continue giving despite not being reciprocated and on top of that blame them even more because how dare you being different because peri/meno.
YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT@reddit
Terrible advice and I’m going to assume your likely someone against HRT treatments. It has a big impact. Maybe not for all but for many. It’s sad there is so much stigma surrounding it.
DoNoHarm--TakeNoShit@reddit
HRT made a huge difference in my life, not the least of which was getting some actual sleep so I can function. I highly recommend looking into it if you are having symptoms.
But with that said, when people have been accused of being hormonal/PMSy their whole life, and then switch to being told they are hormonal/menopausal as soon as that excuse sails, think of how it sounds to them.
I am guessing that some people saw a huge shift and are correctly placing marriage issues on menopause, while others are hearing the same crap they have for decades and correctly thinking their spouse is being a jerk.
BakedGoods_101@reddit
well you are assuming wrong as I'm on HRT, what does that to do with anything I said?
LavenderPearlTea@reddit
Going through a really tough peri now. Love my husband more than ever with how supportive he’s been.
yodaniel77@reddit
"women get married thinking the man will change, men get married thinking the woman never will", is one of my wife's pearls of (weary) wisdom. I'd say very often the root of divorces amongst the people we know are that she realises he won't, and decides she can very happily do without that shit.
"Don't marry a dickhead in the first place" is also a common refrain.
But... if you have a relationship where you spend time together, actually like each other and feel like a team, I'd never want to give that up.
BunchitaBonita@reddit
53 year old post menopausal woman here. I see a lot of women blaming everything on peri/menopause.
jeon2595@reddit
Married 31 years, both happier than ever.
Classic_Rooster4192@reddit
Same after 35 years! Makes me wonder if a lot of people got married because they loved the idea of marriage more than their partner or did what society expected of them. So sad either way.
elizajaneredux@reddit
I also know plenty of people who have been married for 30+ years and can’t really stand each other. Long marriage doesn’t necessarily mean happiness or that it was the right decision.
People marry and get divorced for all kinds of reasons. Let’s not decide that all divorces came from essentially poor judgment on the part of the people when they got married.
stingertc@reddit
I am not thank God M50 been married 23 years but it seems to be very common alot of my friends and family are hope everyone can find happiness again
gosluggogo@reddit
60 years old. Married 34 years. Wife moved into our vacation home years ago. We find that we get along better if we live 1000 miles apart.
evolutionsknife@reddit
The key to a happy marriage is not living with your spouse!
Proper_Buffalo_2923@reddit
I am going thru it now....lawyer just sent paperwork to her today
Cat2370@reddit
I have been unhappy for a long, long time. He’s a drunk. Always has been. I knew, but he was very functional when he was young. Alcoholism doesn’t age well. I didn’t know that at 30, and we were really happy together for about 12-15 yrs. Makes good money, and we’re actually really good friends—it’s the only way we’ve made it this far. But I would leave if I had enough money. He’s got mental health issues that he won’t address, and he doesn’t take care of things like he used to—just quit filing our taxes about 10yrs ago so now we owe IRS, etc. He drags me down, and he’s said shitty things to me/about me in front of other people, which is emotionally abusive. All of our finances are tied together, I’m not geographically flexible with work, and the housing market has basically been destroyed in the US. It would be difficult to go somewhere else although not impossible. I think about leaving a lot.
moifah79@reddit
I left my alcoholic husband 10 years ago this summer. I loved him and it was really hard, but I have not once had a single second of regret. Life is short, go be happy
uninsane@reddit
Years ago may have been the best time to divorce but the next best time is tomorrow. Don’t let yourself limp through the rest of your only life on earth. Time to rip off that bandaid. Sorry for your pain.
ThatFriendinBoston@reddit
Possibly, after 28 years. We could live another 30 years, might as well be happy.
Something_morepoetic@reddit
Yes we split. I’m much happier.
mazerbrown@reddit
There was a chat on another subreddit that opened my eyes. Search for the Great Unf*ckening by Pamela Cross. Opened my eyes. Perimenopause rewires women to stop playing nicey nice in the sandbox and realizing that bending over backwards for people who don't care is no longer an option. It explained a lot.
xyzzyzyzzyx@reddit
It sure does.
ClasslessKitty@reddit
"The great unf*ckening" - Pamela Cross
Livid-Cat4507@reddit
The need to nurture runs away with the oestrogen.
whoops53@reddit
I'm going to write this down! Makes total sense
LoreKeeper2001@reddit
Boy does it ever.
filtersweep@reddit
Dating in the 50s sucks. It is difficult finding a genuine connection and apps make the dating pool look infinite.
Do what my wife did: start an affair with a coworker you already have a connection with.
The two of you leave your spouses four days apart.
Keep your relationship secret for two and a half years.
Then go public- and wonder why your adult kids hate you.
Misfit_Aquaintance@reddit
Yikes 😬 Sorry that happened to you buddy. You doing ok?
filtersweep@reddit
I just found out this week- after two years of divorce— that the affair started while we were married. I met his exwife on Monday. I have relived my entire divorce in the last three days.
I felt so responsible and guilty for the divorce. She was distant (due to the affair)- so I gave her space. She gaslighted me- made me feel responsible. I have lived with that darkness for two years. Now I find out she had already replaced me.
NeeNee9@reddit
She wasn’t getting what she needed at home, so quit blaming her for the whole thing.
filtersweep@reddit
Fuck off. You have no clue how relationships work
Misfit_Aquaintance@reddit
Ah shit man, that sux and I'm so sorry you have to deal with all that shit 🫂 I know it's hard but try to remember you're not responsible for the decisions of others and you don't have to carry other people's guilt.
I really hope this is a blessing in disguise for you and you find the happiness you deserve
filtersweep@reddit
I feel released from all that guilt.
She said she’d rather be alone than with me and the kids. That really hurt. She was never alone.
momhh434444@reddit
I think about it occasionally. My husband is 61 and I am 58. He has become a crabby old man. Constantly complaining about anything and everything. He doesn’t take care of himself and complains about his health problems, which is basically non-stop aches and pains from his head to his toes. I try to be a positive person but he drags me down. He also has become very crabby towards me which really gets me mad. However, I made the vows “in sickness and in health” and I feel like if I abandoned him now that he is older and his health is starting to fail I would be breaking my vows. I also haven’t talked to him about it, so it wouldn’t really be fair. But, the reason I haven’t talked to him about it is because I know he will get super defensive and start a big argument. At this point I am just hoping that aging isn’t that bad and I don’t have as many aches and pains as he does when I hit 60.
BubbaMonsterOP@reddit
I hear you sister! The combo of me in menopause where I'm just tired and over the bullshit, and all these damn whiney old men both at home and work and in the US government that are in mental and physical decline making everyone around them miserable because their in denial about their on cognitive and physical abilities and won't do anything to help themselves. They make it my problem, my mental load to deal with their bullshit and I don't know about anyone else but I am exhausted. Just getting my husband to to basic things to take care of himself, eat, sleep, go to the doctor. Somehow he forgets he too, can cook for himself. He used to cook now he won't remember to eat unless I make it for him, then he complains about what I make but when I ask him what he wants he "doesn't know or doesn't care." I mean my husband finally went to the Dr after six months of nagging. But I still have to buy ensure and bananas so that he might put that in his face for breakfast by himself, because I can't make it for him, because i have to leave for work early. But in sickness and in health does not mean you stop participating in your own upkeep and wellbeing and make your spouse do the heavy lifting.
Think about how many men divorce women with cancer just because they can't help pick up slack because the women is forced to focus on fighting for her life. Then think about what women go through when their man just gets the the sniffles. "OH no you can't breath? Well their ain't no draft if your heads that far up your ass."
It's time for women to take over. We have to do all the work anyway let's put some of these old men out to pasture, they are past their useful prime. They can sit at home and watch the news while we take over the world, because I am just sick of all the bullshit.
momhh434444@reddit
It does feel like that, doesn’t it? The world is being controlled by crabby old men who can’t give up control of anything, but can’t keep things under control because they are aging, which makes them even more crabby!
JaneFairfaxCult@reddit
Just a thought, try behavioral conditioning? Only respond to behaviors you want to reinforce and strictly ignore everything else. See if he starts dropping the negative stuff.
Or yeah, you could try honesty. I just find the conditioning approach interesting, from a human/animal nature standpoint .
momhh434444@reddit
That is good advice. I do try to ignore it but I could do a better job at that for sure.
northernlights01@reddit
Talk to him. He may not realize what he’s doing or the toll it’s taking. Consider counseling, for him or both of you. You only have one life and you deserve happiness. It’s worth a try.
momhh434444@reddit
I know I have to do it. I will soon. Thanks for the motivation and encouragement.
Substantial_Way296@reddit
We're there at times. Just forgive and remember what got u together and keep that flame. Trust God.
DaemonAegis@reddit
Bold of you to assume OP is Christian.
Pinknailzz69@reddit
Christians never care about the religion of people they tell Christian sayings to.
ljinbs@reddit
People used to stay married and died by 40. Now that we’re living longer, we’re seeing that people change as they get older. If you still love the person you loved at 20, that’s awesome. But if you don’t, I would consider moving on. Life is to short. Just my humble opinion.
antwan_benjamin@reddit
"People used to stay married and died by 40."
What? No they didn't lol
mattyghoul@reddit
Yeah in the 1800’s
KrofftSurvivor@reddit
Nope. A dumbass number that somebody came up with by counting every kid who died at Birth and everyone who was killed in an accident or died of disease and averaging them with the people who lived a normal life span and then came up with well the average age of death was 40!
No.
Available-Bison-9222@reddit
Don't forget wars. Most of the people killed in war were men in their 20s.
Available-Bison-9222@reddit
Tbh the notion that everyone died at 40 is a myth. Life expectancy in the past was low because child mortality was so high, which heavily skewed the data. If a person lived long enough to get married, chances are they'd live much longer than their 40s.
thornyrosary@reddit
I have to hard disagree here.
When they were around age 40, and already married for 15 years, my grandparents didn't die. They actually adopted a baby girl, my mom. Alas, contrary to your statement, this magical age did not spell their immediate demise. My grandfather lived to 93. My grandmother lived to 96. And every day of their lives, they talked, worked together on their farm, and bickered more like siblings than partners. They'd have these flash-in-the-pan arguments, quit talking for a few hours, then rehash the disagreement when they were both calmer. And it worked for them. My grandparents celebrated their 72nd wedding anniversary right before my grandfather passed away.
My parents? Well, they both died at 63 (don't smoke, kids!), after 42 years of marriage, 6 kids, and living on the same farm as my grandparents. Their argument style was exactly the same, too: a minor blow-up, a few hours of not talking about it, then sitting down and talking things through.
Yes, we're living longer (hopefully!), but the same principles in relationships still apply: mutual respect, mutual trust, transparent and frequent communication, and a shared commitment to a life built together. But the biggest thing for both couples was keeping some sort of 'spark' hanging around, a reason to tolerate one another's presence despite the irritations that come with such close quarters. One of those things, and what my grandparents both called the most important thing, was to know when to change your ways, and when to forgive and forget old grievances against one another. You can't move a relationship forward if you're constantly bringing up the past. It sours what's here in the present and poisons any chance of a future together.
BigMomma12345678@reddit
Kids are grown, just sayin'
SDMonkee@reddit
I got divorced after 25 years of marriage. It was terrible at first but I am much happier now than before. I honestly didn’t realize how she was unhappy and stopped caring about me until then end and at that point she had already moved on.
Stelliferous19@reddit
I can’t find a way out sadly. I have tried everything to make peace and live respectfully. But she is always looking for a fight and criticizing me. I would pay someone to break us up. I’m no prize, but that’s just another reason we should quit this. I would never get married again.
Apprehensive-Stay196@reddit
Criticism is horrible. One of Gottman’s « Four Horsemen » - AKA « relationship killers ». They are: Criticism, Contempt, Defensiveness and Stonewalling. I’m sorry you are in this situation, I hope you find inner strength and resilience.
WyoSasquatch@reddit
Ha!
I’m on the receiving end of all four of those. I think I dispense one of them.
Grand_Taste_8737@reddit
It's been 25 years. There are rough moments, but we work it out.
MAY_BE_APOCRYPHAL@reddit
Same here. 39 years. Some difficult times, but pretty good at the moment
eyeap@reddit
At 53, there may be a certain amount of irritability. My wife had gigantic sleeping problems and uncharacteristically got really angry about everything. Estrogen got her back to her old self in about 2 months.
bugonmyball@reddit
I had this happen the other day - the same argument we’ve had for 20 years - and I thought “I’m so sick of this”. But be careful - are you just sick of the argument/you’re in a rut OR are you sick of the marriage? I say this because I had that conversation with myself. It took me a split second because I’m still very much in love with my husband, but so sick of that same stupid argument. I’m not going to throw away a wonderful thing over something that doesn’t matter.
Be very mindful of what you want. If it’s truly not working for you, then do what you have to do for yourself, but once the word ”divorce” starts getting thrown around, the option to put that genie back in the bottle may no longer be available to you if you change your mind.
Athrynne@reddit
No. I'm 12 years into my second marriage, and I still get excited when I hear the door unlock when he gets home.
SoOverYouAll@reddit
If you are a woman, it might be menopause related.
I went thru a period where I was short tempered (even at work—to the point I was afraid I was going to lose my job) easily irritated, and all the small things over the years in my marriage became a huge issue for me and I just wanted out. My husband was somewhat confused bc it seemed to come out of nowhere.
I went on HRT and it was amazing how much I changed, back into the laid back, happy person I was. We went to marriage counseling to learn to communicate better and are fine now.
Obviously bc of who we are, I’ve always had a heathy amount of idgaf, and that has definitely intensified even with HRT, but I can summon the mean for people who are bullying baristas or harassing other women or girls.
There has been a lot of new research with HRT, and the benefits and risks. There is a menopause subreddit if anyone reading is interested. It’s still not for everyone, but for some, it’s been life changing.
Admirable-Respond913@reddit
Be 57 this year and split with my e after 19 years in 2019.I didn't have it in me to keep fighting his battles. We are much better friends at thus stage. If I am blessed to finally be loved truly and not just comfy, the good Lord will have to put him here.
2paqout@reddit
Been there. Done that. Grass is always greener on the other side. When I lived in Virginia Beach we had a drought one year. There were many, but this particular year, one guy had the a deep green lawn while everyone else had straw colored yards. The guy spray painted his lawn green. There's a message in there somewhere.
old-cigar-smoker@reddit
After 30 years with so many changes, ups and downs, etc. ONE recent act by the wife had me seriously considering divorce. That single act wasn't actually the first time for such an act (no, not cheating) but due to the surrounding aspects it really cut this time. We are talking and trying to work through it. Who knows?
MizzIves@reddit
I am just hollering at u/BurbNBougie, keep chatting...
sometimesnowing@reddit
Have a look at the data about divorce and separation at this stage. There is a massive upswing, the bulk of which is instigated by women. Perimenopause and menopause have a huge impact on relationships. Some find HRT makes a massive difference. Others run out of any bandwidth for managing their partner and have zero interest in smoothing and fixing anymore.
Peri made me EXTREMELY irritable and it definitely had an impact on my marriage before I started HRT
myeggsarebig@reddit
Peri is not the cause here. Please don’t blame women’s hormones. Peri made us finally angry enough to leave the bull that was always happening. Peri was the line in the sand. It’s a savior.
sometimesnowing@reddit
Poorly worded comment for sure, I didn't mean changing hormones cause disatisfaction in a marriage, more that years of accomodating or fixing or smoothing things over comes to a grinding halt when estrogen plummets. 75% of divorce that happens at this age is instigated by woman and it's not a coincidence that in coincides with perimenopause. Inequality, emotional neglect, lack of support. Things that for years had been tolerated or "worked on" by woman to keep the peace or hold the family together.
myeggsarebig@reddit
Thanks for clarifying! I agree :)
BellaFromSwitzerland@reddit
I would phrase it differently
As our estrogen drops we have less of an instinct to care for others
What we have put up with for decades for the sake of the children, doesn’t seem worth it anymore
sometimesnowing@reddit
I agree with all this, and I could probably have worded it differently. I haven't been in the situation that OP is in where I felt like my marriage was at risk, but my ability to iron out, fix or tolerate the things that bother me has gotten way less. I agree it absolutely does not "come out of nowhere" as some men seem to think, it is usually a culmination of a lot of shit over a long period of time.
lovingthechaos@reddit
Divorces are instigated by women the same way that 95% of the family dentist and doctors appointments are instigated by women.
Cynically_Sane@reddit
Currently in month 20 of the bullshit
Cantech667@reddit
Have you both gone to couples and individual counseling? That might be helpful.
M59, and I’ve been divorced for nine years already. I had a roller coaster ride of a marriage. She left, saying she wasn’t happy, wanted back in, we reconciled, bought a new place together, then she leaves again. Any efforts on my part were futile, as she came out of the closet and is now with a woman. I’m glad she’s living an authentic life, but what a roller coaster of a marriage that was. Glad to be off that ride.
CrazyMinute69@reddit
Fellow Str8Spouse
dodgerecharger@reddit
We got divorced after 16 years of marriage. I moved out . I prefer to live alone instead living like roommates. The Love on his side was gone and he didnt want to go to counseling or something like that to save the partnership. Luckily i have my Job, my Car and my own money
kabekew@reddit
My parents were together since High School, and my mother said it's all about compromise, and choosing your battles. That's worked for me too, so far.
lovingthechaos@reddit
Until you get sick of compromising everything. And choosing battles actually looks a lot more like walking on egg shells
togetherwegrowstuff@reddit
You only have one life. You have to live it for yourself. I got divorced long again. Never got married again. Not sure if I'll ever live with another man. I like my ease and peace.
Guardsred70@reddit
Nah. I’m already 20 years into a second marriage. We both had kids already, and with joint custody….we had 1/3 to 1/2 of our time without kids. So….we always got along great as a couple.
It’s obviously not a path someone would intentionally choose at Age 20…..but it does have advantages for empty nesting.
LaVida2@reddit
Ha, I never married 🥳
Build1975@reddit
Not married, but I (M50) have been with my partner (F51) for almost 24 years and like others have mentioned, I'm reaching the end of my rope. Currently going for mental therapy for myself that will hopefully become couples therapy too and then we'll see if things can be salvaged or not.
PepperCat1019@reddit
Wow, best of luck to you.
CatherineC1979@reddit
Sounds like menopause if you’re a woman and typical man if your a man
birdmadgirl74@reddit
Divorce was final in January. I regret nothing. I have three kids. If I’d wanted a fourth child, I would have birthed another one. Instead, I married a manchild and i was not going to spend the rest of my life being his mommy.
I’m a cat lady now and have never been happier.
Greedy_Guard_5950@reddit
Cats really are the best soulmate
ennuiismymiddlename@reddit
I was looking at divorce, until I was diagnosed with terminal cancer a month ago. We have been separated for two years.
I’m positive that a big factor in my wife demanding separation was her going through perimenopause. Her personality changed dramatically - at least toward me. She basically lost all patience with me and suddenly decided she wanted me gone. After doing a lot of reading, I’ve found that this is not unusual. Perimenopause kills many marriages. Not that I’m not partially at fault for the breakdown, but it’s like perimenopause changed her personality.
Now that I’m dying, my only wish is that I can die in good terms with her.
gcfio@reddit
I hope you have some time left to quit your job and spend your remaining days enjoying life
BellaFromSwitzerland@reddit
Have you told her that you would like to end it on good terms with her? Do you expect care from her?
ennuiismymiddlename@reddit
Yes I’ve told her that I just want us to be kind to each other while I’m still alive, and that I do not expect any care from her.
myeggsarebig@reddit
All the men blaming women’s hormones. No. She’s been tired of your ish. She’s been tired for decades. But now, thanks to Peri, all the patience previously gifted is gone. Being a Mom and wife has lost its charm, and the hormones telling us to stay and have babies is gone. There’s nothing holding us back. Thanks, Peri, for doing your job!
defixiones@reddit
Seems a little patronising (for want if a better word) to suggest that women's life decisions are hormone-driven.
ffrock307@reddit
Yeah. Men never get to blame testosterone for being violent or so horny they cheat.
PintoOct24@reddit
In a lot of ways, we are all driven by our hormones. Our endocrine system controls so much of our feelings and actions. I never realized how much until I had thyroid issues.
GoldSourPatchKid@reddit
Getting my hoshimotos under control changed my life.
Substantial-Spare501@reddit
I was with an alcoholic for over 30 years (I met him in college when I was 20, he was already a daily drinker back then). Separated once before we had kids and my therapist told me to go back to him because I seemed happier when he was around.
I didn’t recognize he was abusive because the physical parts were mild (restrain me from leaving, randomly bit me once during sex, hit the wall over my head when I was asleep with our daughter in bed). The emotional abuse was bad but I didn’t know it. He refused to do any real work 99% of those 30 years.
There was a night when I had dropped our teen daughter off for play rehearsal and was exhausted but still had work to do. He had agreed to pick her up at 8 pm. At 7:45 I went down to see why he hadn’t left and he was passed out drunk on the floor. I had an urge to kick him in the kidneys and that was really the final straw; I didn’t want to live my life like that.
The divorce took 18 months. He told everybody that a concussion I had really changed who I was and that I was a gold digger etc. I got full custody of the kids.
He then died 16 months later of chronic alcoholism.
Divorcing was the best thing for me and the kids.
If you are a female and feel like you are being treated poorly by your partner, read this: https://archive.org/download/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf
chaosrulz0310@reddit
It’s where I am at, been married almost 30 years. It’s not bad most of the time, not exactly happy but settled I guess. We are essentially roommates at this point. Main issues are money problems as I do not in fact have a money tree growing in my back yard though my husband acts like we do. It’s just after decades of the same fights it gets so tiring and I cannot see doing this until I die.
GeoHog713@reddit
I'm filing next week
Max_Sandpit@reddit
I'll most likely be filing in March 2027 when 80% of my kids are over 18.
downwiththewoke@reddit
Well 52F here. Stressed, angry husband, wouldn't get help. Final straw he slapped 15y daughter in face. Hearing "please don't hit me!" would crush me. My anxiety was crazy. Couldn't take it anymore. I felt sorry for him after I asked him to leave. He would call crying, begging to come back the kids would sit on my bed with me and tell me to be strong. My daughter told me "I used to blame you mum for not stopping him". I dont feel sorry for him anymore.
Commercial_Paint_557@reddit
45 here, in a relationship with a 37yr old. She wants to get married settle down and have kids. I kinda want a kid but tbh not sure about all of it. Could just as easily be really happy with my own space
panic_bread@reddit
“Kinda want a kid” means you don’t want a kid. Don’t do it!
Commercial_Paint_557@reddit
I want a kid if the circumstance are more ideal... but I am afraid this is my last chance... I dunno... but yes, I am having some doubts
panic_bread@reddit
The conditions are not ideal for the kid.
Optimal-Ad-7074@reddit
not every life presents us with ideal circumstances for everything. coming to terms with that is part of the famous midlife adjustment.
noyurawk@reddit
No don't get the kid circumstanced
mikefut@reddit
Eh. I kinda wanted a kid, had one and it’s been the greatest thing I’ve ever done.
mite115@reddit
I've never wanted to get married 🤷
ComesOutNDaWash@reddit
Same 😌
Back_Alley420@reddit
Did it five years ago right before 43 and was the best decision. 20 years of putting up with bad and now happier than ever. It was hard but worth it
Every_Top_6401@reddit
Me too! Age 41; I was 20 years married and both kids were 18+. I knew I was done and that I wanted a different life. 10 years later and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
Chainedheat@reddit
Did the same at 45. Costly, but the best decision ever. After taking care of my ex and her BS issues I I couldn’t imagine having to rely on her to take care of me if something happened. Although I can’t imagine doing that much after 50. I had just enough time to recover financially and still be able to meet my retirement goals.
I_am___The_Botman@reddit
Same, I tried my hardest to make it work, in the end, but it didn't help. I should have done it years ago.
SerentityM3ow@reddit
Have you tried couple counselling? Do you want to work it out? Do they?
enginerdsean@reddit
Wife and I both 57 and married 35 years…..best friends. We talk a lot about how nice it has been to grow and change together but not so great it caused problems. Good thing we have common interests, but also our own different interests and no resentment or jealousy or anything. Retiring next year and a divorce at this stage would just ruin that. We are excited for that next chapter.
MassCasualty@reddit
This is refreshing to read. This entire place seems not conducive to healthy relationships...
CanadianExiled@reddit
My divorce was final 2 weeks before my birthday this year, best gift I ever gave myself. I dragged that marriage for a decade longer than I should have but I wanted to make it work... Or I was gaslit into thinking that. Either way, cost me $22k in lawyer fees and half my pension... Absolutely worth it.
Rhymes_with_Demon@reddit
He asked for a divorce after 17 years, and I was devastated. Like, could barely get off the couch to make dinner for my kids.
Now that Im 10 years past the devastation, I can say with 100% certainty that it should have happened sooner.
Will also say I have yet to meet a couple that has a healthy relationship....maybe one. Most seem to accept appalling behavior and abuse in some form or another out of fear of being alone. I cant tell you how many times Ive watched couples interact and wondered if they even like each other.
Upbeat_Product_4950@reddit
Me and mine have been bashed from pillar to post with major health issues first her then me, now her again. Plus two kids that have battled massive mental health issues. We are still here, fighting in each others corner middle finger extended at the world.
MassCasualty@reddit
Eye of the tiger.
Ok-Limit-9726@reddit
Stuck around past menopause,
I am going nowhere once i survived that shit!!!
In it for the long haul now!
staringatthecactus@reddit
Yes, and the systematic dismantling of my character and ability to earn ever since. Trying to start again with literally everything at this age, for me it has been hell and a massive uphill struggle at a time when a lot of people are thinking of winding down
whoops53@reddit
Same here! 5 months out, no family, no job. Starting over at any age is damn hard, but with folks our age, in this world....pfft! I'm just keeping on trying, until I can't.
Beautiful_Dinner_675@reddit
Make room in that same boat for me. Thanks.
obgynmom@reddit
It’s cool to get therapy and spouse promises to change. You really don’t want to break up the family and only see the kids every other weekend and holiday. But now the kids are home, promises always broken and it’s hard looking at 30 more years. But I’m the financial support. Every single dime he makes he spends on himself. I would lose half my retirement and probably have to go back to work with my health issues. I won’t divorce but I can 100% guarantee I will never marry or get in a serious relationship again.
JoyDVeeve@reddit
When I was a yute I never thought I would ever find someone worth marrying and I would joke that if you waited until you were old to get married you wouldn't need to get divorced because you or your spouse would die before too long.
I was 34 when I married my husband and we're doing well. With my health "till death do us part" with a contented marriage seems likely
spintool1995@reddit
What is a yute?
winterboo@reddit
Youth. Makes me think of the movie My Cousin Vinny
spintool1995@reddit
Yes, imagine getting down voted for a movie reference. Some people lack humor 🙂
Noxnoxious@reddit
youth
JoyDVeeve@reddit
Thank you for handling that for me :)
spintool1995@reddit
A what?
Electrical_Ad2652@reddit
The two yutes.
ChemicalHunt1@reddit
55M; married 23 years; kids 18, 13, and 10. I was a military officer and workaholic and kind of an a'hole and gone a lot. Wife basically shut down about two years ago and it's been a living hell. She's been in an emotional affair with a guy from college for most of this time. I'm sure it would be physical - and possibly has been - but he lives a few hours away and I generally have an idea of where she is. She told me she's ready to file but it's going to be a financial disaster so I asked her to wait a few months. But after it happens I'm going to broke and lonely with no friends in a city I despise, far from where I grew up. This, plus my poor kids. I honestly don't know how I'm going to do it.
mjskiingcat@reddit
Invest time in your kids- show you care today!! Do not argue at all- she is probably exhausted over “doing it all”. Clean bathrooms kitchen etc.. make dinner. Get a “makeover”.
ChemicalHunt1@reddit
I've done all the things, been to coaching, been to therapy, made some real changes. If she finds a better looking and/or more fit man than me in his 50s, I'd be very surprised. She's just done with me.
BrightBlueBauble@reddit
A lot of women quickly realize what bliss it is to have their freedom, enjoy a greatly reduced level of uncompensated labor and an always clean home, start pursuing their own interests, spend time with their girlfriends, etc. If she’s tired, and in her 50s (the hormonal changes of perimenopause/menopause go along way toward getting rid of the people pleasing compulsion) she may just want to enjoy her life on her own. The long distance guy suggests she isn’t really interested in a full time companion.
Jorgedig@reddit
Too little, too late.
ChemicalHunt1@reddit
This.
sultj@reddit
Is it too late for her to agree to marriage counseling?
UKEE93@reddit
Such a sad story! I’m so sorry!!
ChemicalHunt1@reddit
Thank you! I'm glad someone cares...
UKEE93@reddit
I wish you the best and thank you so very much for your service!!💔
RedditWidow@reddit
Deal with the old arguments and resentments. I was at the end of my rope about 10 years ago, but things are so much better now. It helps to be with someone who truly wants you to be happy, and you want him to be happy, and you're both willing to talk about the difficult things you haven't been facing. If you can't both do that, then it might be time to move on. In my husband's case, it also involved seeing some doctors, getting some surgeries, and going to a psychiatrist. It's hard to have a healthy relationship with someone who's not a healthy person.
Socksandcandy@reddit
Thought about it for a decade. He finally got laid off and things massively improved. Have shared hobbies and interests again. It can get better. The wait can be long. Ymmv. Good luck 🍀
rustyrazorblade@reddit
Just curious, have you tried changing the marriage? I’ve always wondered if people are unhappy with the person or the architecture of their relationship.
hair_10@reddit
Divorced at 50 after almost 25 years of marriage. Ex-wife had an affair with a coworker so that was that. She tore our family apart and really messed up our kids, especially my then 13 yr old son (he still doesn't have a relationship with her). It cost me financially and it's taken some time to rebuild, but 7 years later I'm happier than I have been in a very long time. Reconnected with and married my first love, so I guess I have my ex to thank for that. Lol. I thought getting divorced was the end but it turns out that it was just a new beginning.
Ok_Emergency7145@reddit
Glad to hear you have found happiness again. How is you son coping with the divorce now?
hair_10@reddit
Everything happened right about the time he turned 13. At that age, boys don't have a handle on emotions. He was angry and lashed out and everyone around him, especially my ex. She threw him out and said he had to come and live with me full time (which I was fine with of course, he's my son). After that, he really never had much of a relationship with her. Still doesn't. He lived with me for a few years and although I tried to keep him on the right path, he fell in with the wrong crowd and got into some trouble. Unfortunately, he's in prison now. Breaks my heart. 😢
Ok_Emergency7145@reddit
I'm really sorry he had such a hard time and struggled so much. I hope he gets an opportunity to turn his life around and find happiness.
sultj@reddit
I’m really sorry to hear that about your son.
Adorable_Bag_2611@reddit
Divorce was final in Oct.
BraveG365@reddit
Seems like divorces are getting popular for people in their 50's.
Know of two different people who got divorced from their spouses within the last two years....I think for one couple they were just staying together until the kids left.
Know another one that divorced her husband 4 yrs ago but before the ink was dry already had a man on the line to get married who had more money and a bigger house....they were married for 2 yrs and now in the process of getting a divorce and she is already out and about dating guys looking for the next catch with money.
Molly_Deconstructing@reddit
57F married for 30 years - finally got him in to couples counseling… 30 years of taking EVERYONE else’s side except mine. Counseling so I can say I tried everything, but…… I’m so over it
sultj@reddit
I’m sorry seems like the counseling isn’t really helping the situation. I’m separated for my wife after 22 years and counseling didn’t seem to do a whole lot because I don’t think she was that interested in going.
GrouchyPreference765@reddit
Nene made the leap, just have 5-6 breakups over the years. And all my stuff.
LoreKeeper2001@reddit
Are you in peri-menopause? Free-floating rage is one of the symptoms.
lematson@reddit
Good point!
TimMensch@reddit
I'm looking at divorce in the rear view.
I didn't want it, but the situation was unsustainable. Marriage counseling wasn't working. It got to the point where being alone was preferable.
Things were amiable. No lawyers. Split was painful and, in my opinion, unfair, but not grossly so. I just wanted it to be done.
And it is done, and dating in your 50s is not exactly fun. So do what you can to save what you have, but cut your losses when you realize there's no more moving forward.
Independent-Dark-955@reddit
Divorced at 40. Remarried at 46. 59 and very happy this second time.
ozrockchick@reddit
Same here. Divorced at 40 (after 20 years together). Remarried at 49. Now 58 and very happy this second time. I feel like l got the upgrade.
MienaLovesCats@reddit
No; married my best friend almost 27 years ago. We greatly depend on each other; to care for our 2 special needs young adult children.
ExtremeJujoo@reddit
Divorced my first husband in my early 30s. Met my now husband at 39. Married him at 49. Still together at 56. I am gonna keep him.
Max_Sandpit@reddit
Married 32 years. Right on the edge of divorce here. What a waste.
nsf94@reddit
Same
AdSpiritual220@reddit
Amen!
Late_Homework_2705@reddit
I got divorced after only 3 years of marriage when I was still in my 30s. I certainly chose the wrong partner, but don’t regret anything. I love men but will never marry again. I am always in awe of those who are in love and can make it work for the long haul.
strangedazey@reddit
I left an abusive marriage after 32yrs in 2024. It was long overdue.
lucid_intent@reddit
Same exact years and end year. I should have left 22 years before. My kids were relieved. They looked at me and said, it is about time.
I stayed for the kids. Then I found out how much trauma they also endured.
He’s married to the mistress now. We don’t miss him at all.
Ok_Driver8646@reddit
That’s why I got divorced so young. My spouse was awful but great at gaslighting and emotional abuse.
Global_Friend5300@reddit
Hauling divorce on a trailer hitch. Getting married is a lousy way to realize that you’re not cut out for marriage.
Spiritualy-Salty@reddit
I married the right woman. After 30 years we still love and support each other and enjoy our time together. I’m 60 and she is 53.
ElectricRing@reddit
I am 50M and divorced. Arguments are rarely about what you are actually arguing about. Have you tried couples counseling? Divorce sucks but being in an unhappy marriage sucks more.
theclubchef@reddit
I'm 54. I was married briefly for 2 years at 38-40 and reunited with my first hs girlfriend. We got married at 48. Sure, we fight, but she went through a nasty marriage with kids and I held out till then with no kids. Glad I got my wiggles out before getting married, but I see her girls ready to jump into marriage in their early 20s and I scratch my head.
SplashiestMonk@reddit
Got divorced a few years ago after 24 years. Best thing that ever happened to me. I was the proverbial frog in the pot of boiling water, unable to really see just how bad things had gotten. Now that I’m out and have created a life that I love, I’m amazed at what I put up with for so long.
Front-Cat-2438@reddit
It’s been called “silver splitting.” For me, it was 30 years, half my life, our kids’ entire lives. He quit the partnership when the first kid was born, and I became my spouse’s parent as well as bangmaid. He’ll never believe he was abusive, and the kids and I will never forget. I got them out first, and tried to get myself out- oh, the threats he made, then the promises he never intended to fulfill. I did drag him to relationship counseling which he put zero effort into, just so I could have a witness after spending the relationship just eating it and trying to make it work by myself. That does not work! The kids and I are destroyed financially and suffer PTSD. How I wish I’d done this sooner when there was hope we had time to recover.
Arvid38@reddit
Well can’t speak for myself because I love my husband to death but my parents had a Rocky marriage off and on. But when my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer that metastasized to bone cancer, they got much closer again. In a weird way I’m glad it happened that way so they didn’t maybe eventually divorce. You need to communicate because maybe your “old mate” feels the same lol or maybe you can come to terms on where you want to be and how comfortable you are to stay (or go).
Apprehensive-Stay196@reddit
They exact same thing happened to my parents. My dad missed my mom so much since she passed.
ziggyskyhigh@reddit
Went through mediation today. Came out with a fair agreement for both of us... I think... but I still dont feel good about it. Like I should be doing more for her. She wasnt trying to get over on me or be difficult. Lawyer said to me "nice job" when I showed him the final paperwork. That definitely didn't help. Weird feeling.
Itis-caught-BearsWin@reddit
Could have meant “nice job in not making it a long drawn out shit show”. The divorce lawyers I know have crazy war stories and say it is never worth it. Anyway, congrats.
ziggyskyhigh@reddit
Thanks, good point of view. Its fresh so I just need to sleep on it a few days I think.
Optimal-Ad-7074@reddit
it's an adjustment. sounds like the salt rule might be a good one for you right now: you know, how you can always add more later if you still think it's needed.
IBroughtWine@reddit
{hugs}
HLLAuntClaire@reddit
Give her more then. If you’re unfair this will bother you forever. Mediation doesn’t mean it’s final. I know - I’ve been there. Good luck
W_HoHatHenHereHy@reddit
Marriage is work. I work at forgiving and accepting who my spouse is, and so don’t let myself get to the point of wanting to split. They do as well, as I’m definitely not the easiest person to deal with in the world. But, I’m better with them than not and always remember that.
Front-Cat-2438@reddit
“They do as well.” There’s the reason your marriage hasn’t split.
toiletcleaner999@reddit
Nope, I married my best friend and made it perfectly clear to him early ,there is no divorced only widowed lol
Cautious_Rain2129@reddit
Yeah we won't ever get divorced, but I did tell my wife, when you see me buy an ultralight airplane in my later years, I am ready to go out Second Hand Lion style and you'll be a peaceful widow for your remaining years.
😆😆😆
toiletcleaner999@reddit
Yeah we are both too old and ugly to start over and ill be damned if ill attempt to train another man at this point in my life lol but also hes my best friend
Cautious_Rain2129@reddit
Ha! you said train. He isn't trained he just doesn't want to cause conflict so he reluctantly confirms.
Guys are untrainable. We are good at smashing things with rocks though.
toiletcleaner999@reddit
Hey I worked my ass of to train him. Just ask him, ive told him what to say lol. All jokes aside he is ny perfect match in every way. 31 years he still makes me laugh until I cant breath. Hes a really good man.
Cautious_Rain2129@reddit
20 years here.
toiletcleaner999@reddit
Thats amazing! Its hard working but once you get it, its .magical
mmmmmarty@reddit
Is that the thing that looks like a hang glider with the 2-stoke mower motor on the back? A couple of our neighbors (airstrip subdvision through the woods) have them but I didn't realize they were popular elsewhere! One had a problem and landed on our farm about 10 years ago.
Cautious_Rain2129@reddit
There are all kinds of ultralights, but yes, small open airframe, small motor, big propeller.
mmmmmarty@reddit
Deathtrap lol
sugahack@reddit
I got mine out of the way back in 2000
Suspicious_Tank_61@reddit
Came very close about 5 years ago. I cared for her deeply but could not stand parenting with her. Just dysfunctional coparenting, arguments and frustration. Then she started getting sick. So I decided to wait until she got better, she just kept getting worse. Turns out she is never going to get better. I care too much for her to go through this by herself. So I stayed and found my peace with everything. Now I care for her, protect her, make sure she stays comfortable and help her get through her day. We are not sure how much time we have left, but when that day comes, it will be too soon.
soupsbombers@reddit
...to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part".
I'm sorry that you are going through this, but you should be proud in the fact that you are fulfilling the duties that you declared before God when you married her. I'm sure it is hard but you're doing the right thing. But never feel guilty for taking time to care for yourself.
Arvid38@reddit
Aww you sound like my parents. My dad did the same for my mom 🫶🏼.
brooklynbotz@reddit
That's tough. Sorry to hear it. Stay strong and don't forget to take care of yourself as well.
Puzzleheaded_Use_566@reddit
Not at all. I was extremely lucky to find my husband. We’re best friends and love talking to each other but still have our own hobbies and interests. I’m just happy.
Plus, I’ve already told him if he tries to leave me, into the wood chipper he goes! 😉
TheAmiableLich@reddit
I laughed but .. It's funny that when you post it as a female presenting person, it's funny, but if a dude posted the same text, it would be all pitchforks and torches. Weird world out there.
SillyNluv@reddit
Maybe that’s because more women than men die at the hands of of their spouse?
Puzzleheaded_Use_566@reddit
I am a woman, but I think most people would understand the gif and joke and not take it too seriously, no matter which gender said it.
RasSalvador@reddit
You don't want to be out there
drunkfaceplant@reddit
This is also true
kidneypunch27@reddit
I couldn’t wait till my 50s. Pulled the plug at 41 and remarried at 45. He is my best friend and it’s been 9 years of marital bliss.
wanderingdev@reddit
Sounds like maybe you guys could use some couples counseling to work through what's actually happening. Are you just having a midlife crisis or are things actually dead? If its a midlife crisis, a good counselor can help you work through it and come out stronger. If things are actually dead they can help your both reach that conclusion amicably, which will make splitting a lot easier.
drunkfaceplant@reddit
I know cheating seems to ramp up. We're just human trying to deal with our situations
VeryPazzo@reddit
Going through it now
nigevellie@reddit
I'm trying to divorce with my old life
ApartAd3290@reddit
I’ve been divorced for a long time, so am in a different place than you, but for me the question is “do I ever want to be in a romantic relationship again?” My kids have fledged, and I’m very much enjoying my own space all of the time. I want to deepen my friendships, and enjoy my cats. I also work with an aging population, and see how couples of a certain age are now caretakers of each other, or one is caring for the other if they are sicker. So yeah, if you don’t wanna be in that position….getting out sooner is probably easier than later.
freakdageek@reddit
This me.
big_angery@reddit
If you divorce in your 30s you wont have to think about it later is what i did
ApartAd3290@reddit
Lol. Same.
ThoughtIknewyouthen@reddit
jitterfish@reddit
Are you male or female? I ask because a few of my female friends divorced around their 50s and a couple said they wonder if it was menopause. I think about that as I approach 50 and my husband pisses me off for the same stuff as he's always done (been together 30 years).
lucid_intent@reddit
It was my ex husband’s man-o-pause. 😂
WinterExisting5076@reddit
I was there in my late 40s and early 50s. I'm 57F and am on HRT- I have since found peace and no longer want to just get in my car and never return
nmacaroni@reddit
Relationships are hard. They are harder when only one person is putting in the effort.
Relationships are also ALL about perception.
You get together and see the stars and moon in everythign about them... then someone loses a job, gets sick for a spell, whatever, and the stars and moon disappear and all you see is something else. Something totally different.
The only constant in the universe is change... and how you see that change, well again, perception.
Balrog71@reddit
My second lasted 10 months, ended 13 years ago. First was 18 years. I am constantly amazed by the peace I have without any of it. Whatever is behind the door is mine and no one is waiting with some fakeass drama or thin air accusations..sure I get lonely sometimes, but I know it’s better than someone else’s hangups wrecking everything that should be smooth sailing
Astronaut6735@reddit
These words speak to me. I've never been married, but I ended the longest relationship I've ever been in because of this. Haven't really dated since then.
Balrog71@reddit
I've dated a bit, and I'm not antisocial or anything, but if someone stays here with me they're not going to blame me for their own problems. Just done with all that. I can hold her all night and tell her I wish she'd had better but I ain't the guy that she's mad at
ThoughtIknewyouthen@reddit
The girl I married at 19 left me at 21 because she got pregnant by another man whom she eventually married after I was off the scene. We caught up once the internet was invented (tbf only 10 years later) and have been friends ever since. They were a great couple and she was a successful nurse and he did something successful there in smalltown PA so let me tell you, I had a bit of a cry when she told me last month they were filing. I was shocked. I mean, I went on to get divorced again at 48 and by the grace of God have a perfect marriage now but that shook me. She was always a very independent Cali girl, mind you and was way too much for this Indiana boy to handle but I thought she'd found her life and it made me happy for her. I was like, well damn.
wanderingscientist52@reddit
Your mom is
mmmmmarty@reddit
Yo daddy
dchusband@reddit
DiamondHandsDarrell@reddit
I already did it, took many years. Barely survived but better off for it.
KarmicWhiplash@reddit
No way. We're partners, lovers and friends. Til death do us part. ❤️
mmmmmarty@reddit
Damn straight. We're having a blast at this point. We work, farm, and go fishing. Our 10yo is cool af. We're starting to figure out this farming mess, and working on stuff together is awesome. He's a little stronger than me at some of the work skills but I still catch more fish. (A little friendly competition between spouses never hurts, lol)
Ok_Driver8646@reddit
Pffff….got that out of the way early on. Good luck.
Comedywriter1@reddit
I think I got this marriage right. 15 years and going strong.
My first one, however, was a disaster. Five years that felt like 50. 😂
mattwb72@reddit
Counseling?
notabadkid92@reddit
It's only been 15 yrs. We still like each other a lot!
ImCaffeinated_Chris@reddit
That's 2 seven year itches, you're gonna make it!
AshDenver@reddit
Every few months I wonder “is this it, are things over?” Then we get over it, find the groove again.
GuvNer76@reddit
Therapy is cheaper than divorce.
Source: Me and my bank account.
jking7734@reddit
You weren’t married to my ex lol
Opposite-Lake-9679@reddit
Divorced finalized 2.5 years ago. I dated a lot for the first year, had a couple of boyfriends and just broke up with one last week. I'm ready to settle down though at this point. I've done a lot of the work to figure out my side of the street. And even though I am lonely sometimes now, I am glad not to be in a relationship with my alcoholic ex-husband.
jking7734@reddit
My first wife left after 25 years. I was treated more like an ATM than a mate for the last several years of the marriage. Maybe I was wrong I was tired of the hamster wheel. When she said she wanted out I just gave in.
Kryceks-Revenge@reddit
No reason to stay if the relationship isn’t working. If you’re no longer compatible. If it’s more negative than anything else. What did it for me was whenever he left the house, I was always relieved. Always. And when he came back home, I was so full of dread. I remember lying once and saying I had to travel for work out of state. I just got a ticket out of state. Stayed in a hotel for a weekend. And cried because it was so peaceful and there was no dread.
Zealousidedeal01@reddit
My family thought my sacrifices were done because of love, but I was just too tired to fight him and his family. Yesterday, I had enough, he dipped in to a very substantial future/college funds (wiped it clean actually) and even asked our eldest daughter her rent money saying he will pay it in a weeks time. He failed. And no remorse. I shed a tear for hating myself for not leaving sooner.
GeorgiaYankee73@reddit
I am not, but “gray divorce” is a *thing*. It is not at all unusual.
Active_Recording_789@reddit
The thing is, you only have one life. So if you made your peace with someone who is selfish or unreliable or disrespectful or lazy…there’s far more to life. You don’t need to be with anyone. Focus on friends, exercise, finding beauty and meaning in life
Phog_of_War@reddit
Signing paperwork on Sunday actually. Things are....wierd.
AnastasiaNo70@reddit
My brother (53) is going through his second divorce. He never thought he’d be single in his 50s, so he’s kind of adrift right now. And it was financially devastating.
pickle_day@reddit
A friend told me she was advised by her gynecologist that 50 is the most dangerous time for a marriage. Perimenopause can have something to do with it! Her advice was that if your husband has been pretty good up until then, don't make any big decisions (likewise husbands for their wives!).
But if it's been a shitshow for ages I guess it's a really good time to use that extra crankiness and pull the plug. Plenty of life left in us yet, no need to hang on to someone not willing to evolve, help out or just be a decent human being. Time to shut that shit down pronto if you've been waiting 20+ years for that to improve.
Ohshitz-@reddit
But at least im no longer abused, lied to, cheated on, financial abuse, screamed at, ignored, a nurse, bank, personal assistant, designated driver, mental punching bag, gaslit, manipulated. He still is beyond words since we have 7 mo of coparenting left. But im so glad hes fucking gone.
Recordman-John@reddit
Congrats!
RetroBerner@reddit
Nope, I made sure to marry someone who I can also just hang out with, and it just keeps getting better
Ohshitz-@reddit
Its what i want before i die. I thought i finally had it after a horrible marriage. But the universe likes to fuck with me.
ResoluteMuse@reddit
Highly suggest an individual therapist to work through if this is a phase or a symptom of something bigger.
HighSeasArchivist@reddit
Forever is forever.
Strange_Category5207@reddit
Waited until I was 34 and had the VERY messy divorce at 53, it was expensive…… for her 😁
josephus_jones@reddit
I divorced at 50. Remarried two years later. I have a three year old daughter and I've never been happier. Life is good. It sucked five years ago and I wanted to die. Now I need to live to be 100. Hahaaa
wisemonkey101@reddit
I got a divorce at 42. Best decision ever. Took a couple years to recover but I am happy and have a better relationship with my kids because I’m not angry and put out.
Blankbetty11@reddit
Have you tried therapy? Sometimes one or both halves of a couple get grouchy as they mature and we need to decide if we can still tolerate the things we’re complaining about, or still tolerate the complaining on an ongoing basis. It’s ok to change your priorities and/or decide the single life is what you want. For better or for worse only goes so far.
fxlatitude@reddit
I did 5 yrs ago I divorced amicably after 27yrs together and I’m so happy I went my own way (55M) I had to pay a high price ($) and now I live by myself with a LAT (living apart together) relationship.