One in three Americans is having an existential crisis right now. And honestly? Same.
Posted by PithyCyborg@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 368 comments
Just saw a new study and I can't stop thinking (and stressing) about it.
Talker Research surveyed 2,000 Americans and found that 32% of us are currently experiencing an existential crisis.
Gen Z is at 52%. More than half of an entire generation is questioning the basic premise of their own lives.
(I am an elder millennial. But, I can also relate to Gen Z because I am literally just a nervous wreck these days. Don't even know what to do.)
From the study: 87% of Americans believe the country is in an affordability crisis. Half can't pay basic bills. The average person has already absorbed two major unplanned life changes in 2026... And guys... We're not even halfway through the year. The most common word Americans used to describe 2026 so far was "stressful."
37% of Americans say their entire life feels out of their control right now. I'm honestly surprised it isn't higher.
And the worst part is that something you won't find in any study. Most of us are going through this completely alone. I'm seriously too ashamed to admit it, because where I live, everyone has to pretend that they are fancy, well-off, above it all, et cetera. And, I am literally too exhausted to explain it.
Am I the only one in the 32%? Because this comment section is a safe place if you want to share. I genuinely want to know how you're holding up.
(Hopefully, better than me.)
Cordially,
Mike D
Greater Boston
SOURCE: https://studyfinds.com/americans-having-existential-crisis
thechilecowboy@reddit
I just plant plants (organic), preserve food, drink good beer, and smoke a cigar now and again. And I do my part in resource preservation and taking care of our Mother. Stay in the present moment, friends. There's joy in that.
Orbital_IV@reddit
I just made a pollinator garden in my backyard . It was great being out in the sun, playing in the dirt, not thinking about Epstein, Trump, iran, etc.
thechilecowboy@reddit
Yass yass!!!
mk4_wagon@reddit
Smoke a cigar for me please! Between sinus issues and getting sick from my kids I haven't had a cigar in about a year. I've got some waiting for when I finally feel good enough to actually have one.
thechilecowboy@reddit
Yes indeed! What do you like?
mk4_wagon@reddit
I've never been huge into trying different ones since I don't get to smoke often. I like lighter cigars, Fuente Chatteau is my go to. If you have any recommendations I'm all ears!
thechilecowboy@reddit
Head on over to r/cigars!
Sorry_End3401@reddit
Well put. I’ve dropped out of consumerism. I no longer care about the twisted “credit score” system. I pay bills when I can or want to. Most, I don’t bother with. I’ll probably claim BK because if it’s good enough for the multibillion businesses, I might as well join in their fun.
I have zero smart appliances or wifi. I like my library. I am a vegetarian that believes in “no lights on during the day”.
Only goal I have is to move back to NH and hike some mountains before I die.
I have zero responsibilities or family. I can roam as I wish. Enjoying the now and not the “I’ll be happy when” is key in this current circus that creates an artificial hatred for other people. I don’t believe in having side hustles or hero worship of the tech bros.
Collapse is the course. I’m ok with it.
tragicxharmony@reddit
That’s the spirit! No more credit card payments, no more hospital charges, I’m paying rent, my cats’ insurance, renter’s insurance, and maybe electricity and water. Screw whatever else is trying to get money from me, can’t get money where there is none
Interestingllc@reddit
NH?
thechilecowboy@reddit
Well said!!!
jun-ju@reddit
i live in excess because "we" are fucked anyway. it already is too late. i recommend everyone considering the situation, and to not cause more misery (like with bringing new persons into this battlefield).
governments, corporations etc. do not care at all. they support scams and oppression. they are active destroying the ecosystem in order to have a crazy lifestyle within their last remaining years. what they are (and mostly, always were) against is sustainability and fair conditions
seanx50@reddit
Why so few? That seems so low
ismailirazz@reddit
What’s wrong with having an existential crisis? Sounds like an opportunity for growth.
youcanteatcatskevn@reddit
Same same. I go out into public and see everybody puts on a brave face. We smile and exchange pleasantries and they all act like life is normal. It's just...weird. I feel like we should be talking about this more.
Slipsonic@reddit
Same. Anytime I bring this stuff up though, people get uncomfortable, quiet, and change the subject. I try to keep people aware but I feel like it pushes people away.
FlyingStealthPotato@reddit
Since the advent of social media, we have been conditioned to avoid difficult interpersonal situations in person. I think this is partially a natural tendency and has partially been orchestrated by “the powers that be” since it’s beneficial to them.
All our rage and complicated opinions and suffering all comes out online now, because we don’t want to have to deal with other people’s suffering and emotions or fork over our own. And it becomes a cycle that feeds itself. No emotional connection in real life, so we all seek it online, where it makes little to no impact on anyone and now gets drowned in a sea of bots. The more we all seek that online, the more disconnected we become in real life.
5Dprairiedog@reddit
I think it's because ~40% of the country are lunatic cult members now, so those situations are avoided because those people aren't right in the head and you never know who is in the cult.
FlyingStealthPotato@reddit
I think you’re wrong on that. 40% of the country didn’t used to be lunatic cult members. What caused that transition? It happened before Trump and has accelerated since. It’s not a trend isolated to the US either.
I’d wager it is the disconnect in real life and the new connections found in the safely corporate-controlled digital space causing most of it.
Bavarian_Raven@reddit
Christians are just open about it now. Sadly. :/
moocat55@reddit
As much as my parents would not accept the morale behavior of the current Republican party, the party states beliefs my father held deeply. Like racist ideology, that the UN was demonic and that Roosevelt's New Deal is the root cause of every other problem this country has.. My parents thought the Kennedys were the worst humans on Earth. My parents were also deeply religious people. This administration reflects their views more than young people today realize, which means that the Republicans really are trying to bring back the America of the past, because America, in many ways, was built on these beliefs. My parents would have been on the side that considered the left's DEI efforts fascism as my brother does today. I'm not defending any of it, I'm just explaining why MAGA resonates with so many people. They honestly recognize and value aspects of America's past that the left considers shameful - a point of view only recently borne in the later half of the last century. It's time to admit the Left's culture change efforts since then failed dismally.
Cybertronian10@reddit
Yeah Trump simply activated an existing base of insane christians + a group of low information voters who typically don't engage in politics.
MaddogBC@reddit
2008 ish, the rise of smartphones. The waves of unwashed masses has ruined it for everyone.
5Dprairiedog@reddit
I was referring to chatting with people in public.
FlyingStealthPotato@reddit
Yeah, me too.
CertainKaleidoscope8@reddit
Have you seen Eddington? We're living in an Ari Aster film I swear to good. Except it's all of them. At once.
verstohlen@reddit
For some, we're living in Beau is Afraid, though it's somewhat weirder than the movie.
Proper_Geologist9026@reddit
Nah man. I was with that movie until about the last 30 minutes. I'm not a schizophrenic though it did really speak to me as a good depiction of proper psychosis and derangement.
I hope to god no one's finding themselves locked in an attic with a giant scrotum they come to learn is their father. And then if I remember correctly paddling into a cave surrounded by dicks or something.
I hope no one's living in that world.
fearless-jones@reddit
Or the film First Reformed:
“First Reformed (2017) is a critically acclaimed drama starring Ethan Hawke as a Protestant minister grappling with despair, environmental destruction, and his faith.”
springcypripedium@reddit
Very good points ----disconnected people and constant trauma that is never processed. Every day brings more traumatic events and I see no end in sight.
rainb0wveins@reddit
Same. I wish there was a sort of Meetup app for collapse aware people.
The_UpsideDown_Time@reddit
Groups that actively discuss/accept collapse:
Deep Adaptation
Otherwise
Joe Brewer's Design School for Regenerating Earth
Dean Walker's Living Resilience
There are others. I can connect you if you are interested & can't find any of the above through a general search.
rainb0wveins@reddit
Thanks, I hadn't heard of any of these, and will definitely look them up.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Be the change you want to see in the world
Meetup.com
rainb0wveins@reddit
I'm introverted, depressed, and unmotivated. No desire to organize a group myself.
Silly_List6638@reddit
Deep Adaptation do it
Grief Group from Friends of the Earth do them
I reflect on it as pretty good to have gone to through the experience with others , though at the time obviously quite emotional
One_Ad_2692@reddit
I don't know, most people I'm testing, with "how are you feeling about the world" have the same answer, they feel like it's burning to the ground. People who hated guns are training at the range, prepping, etc. I'm shocked by some of the folks I'm talking to and hearing what they're doing. I'm feeling the same way, but didn't expect so many people to be feeling it too. But we also have a good bit of family and friends that think we're crazy and everything is fine.
Universal_Monster@reddit
People exchange pleasantries face to face but I feel like I’m seeing more and more aggressive and reckless driving.
ideleteoften@reddit
Glad to know it's not just me. It's as if people drive like they have nothing to live for.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
I slowed and stopped at a red light in Eastern NC and a full 2-3 seconds later a car went past me through the intersection at 60 MPH. You don't have to be in an accident to be in an accident.
PurpleCableNetworker@reddit
I’m from California. We have nearly an epidemic of aggressive and reckless driving. Just today I got caught behind a large delivery truck coming off the free way. Not a semi, but still a large delivery truck. Clearly visible from afar. Someone was riding my bumper for a hundred feet or so and then suddenly and aggressively passed myself and the truck as soon as the lanes broke out to multiple lanes. She gave me a dirty look and said something.
I don’t know what she wanted. I had a massive truck directly in front of me. I’m not sure what you can do really about that on a single lane coming off the highway. 🤷♂️
Apart-Landscape1468@reddit
We have an agressive and reckless driving epidemic in Milwaukee also. People literally do not stop at stop signs and red lights, the media has dubbed it "the Milwaukee slide".
NevDot17@reddit
Ontario drivers are being weird too
CertainKaleidoscope8@reddit
SoCal here. Good to know I'm not insane I guess.
TheTurboDiesel@reddit
I had a guy in a brodozer flashing his high beams at me, so close he should have bought me dinner. And I was going almost 40 up laurel canyon…
PurpleCableNetworker@reddit
Technically I think we all are… It’s just that some of us don’t show it in our driving. 😂
AlwaysBreatheAir@reddit
Drivers have definitely become more aggressive in the wake of COVId
apheliotrophic@reddit
Covid exposure impairs cognitive functions, and I'm certain that it's been affecting people's ability to assess risk.
5Dprairiedog@reddit
I noticed a huge uptick in 2021, I figured it was cabin fever and brain issues caused by covid, now I think it's just covid.
CertainKaleidoscope8@reddit
Oh yup. And driving in the phone. On the freeway. In the rain.
pvdfan@reddit
You are and it's gotten worse each year since COVID. Outside of Nashville there was a crash that stopped traffic and cars were going down the shoulder at at least 40mph. In the past it would have been an asshole here or there, but now it was like it's own lane with no breaks. I've seen the same thing in at least two other states this year.
mk4_wagon@reddit
Is everyone putting on a brave face, or are they just ignoring it? I'm not talking about an 'ignorance is bliss' situation either. I'll talk to people who are plenty knowledgeable about what is going on, but seem to think it will all correct itself or that it's not really a problem. To the point that it makes me question if I'm overacting about it all.
Anxious-Cloud4634@reddit
Humans can’t seem to do the math when it says: “change or die.” They see the numbers adding up to zero, and they rub away the whole equation, saying, like a non-sequitur, “Everything will work itself out.” So they pretend they’re not slaves serving genocidal, racist war criminals. There’s a play, Rhinoceros, by Eugene Ionesco, where people inexplicably turn to rhinos—which symbolizes becoming a nazi, or simply the loss of critical thinking that turns a people into a fearful, stampeding, violent, herd.
False_Raven@reddit
Society bred obedient little work dogs and made sure stepping out of line is seen as weak and needs to be humiliated.
You won't find people talking about openly. This is something they keep close to themselves. Our modern day world, as interconnected and advanced as it is, is somehow lacking meaningful connection and we've never been so isolated in human history.
We are domesticated dogs with our own personal cages
zefy_zef@reddit
You go in public??
itsalovelydayforSTFU@reddit
I wish I were in a place where people exchanged pleasantries. Most people in California are rude and entitled.
voidsong@reddit
They're counting us on not talking about, so they frame it as a bad thing.
Just like they do with discussing wages.
gofishx@reddit
I screamed aloud that I was not afraid; that I never could be afraid; and others screamed with me for solace. We sware to one another that the city was exactly the same, and still alive; and when the electric lights began to fade we cursed the company over and over again, and laughed at the queer faces we made.
notusuallyhostile@reddit
There has probably never been a time when Lovecraft was more applicable.
gofishx@reddit
That story in particular has been haunting me a lot, lately...lmao
TantalumAccurate@reddit
I was deep into Lovecraft in my teens. I think there's never been a better time to revisit the limitless madness of confronting the incomprehensible.
stragedyandy@reddit
What is the name of the story please?
Davo300zx@reddit
Whore at Redhook
gofishx@reddit
Nyarlathotep Its a very short read, you can finish it in 10 minutes
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
As someone who lives in a European country (Serbia), i think that people are being ignorant on purpose. It's only a matter of time when they'll stop being ignorant, but it will be too late by then.
EmergencySushi@reddit
Same. I low-key think this is the undercurrent of day-to-day life, just the vast majority of us going about trying to act like the floor isn’t slowly turning into quicksand. We take refuge in what we can - pleasantries, loved ones (the lucky ones among us), hobbies and side interests, and try VERY HARD not to look too closely at how things are going.
vagabond_nerd@reddit
I want to shout from the roof tops that we all need to wake the hell up before it is too late. But it’s like everyone knows that and just keeps quiet because of temporary comfort.
al_m1101@reddit
The last few times I've tried to bring it up, socially:
-I've been called Doom and Gloom -Assured that God will provide 🙄 -Tone policed and told not to GeT ToO PoLiTiCaL -Told capitalism is what makes America great and sets us apart, and that every nation has 'rough spells.' 🙄
People are lost in the sauce. It really is like Don't Look Up.
TheOldPug@reddit
I hate the mandate that we not speak about religion or politics. It's not that we need to reduce every conversation to vapid small talk about the weather. People just need to learn to talk about meaningful, interesting subjects without acting like goddamn assholes.
pseudohim@reddit
Precisely. And avoidance of these subjects is, writ large, complicity with the status quo. Refusing to discuss them only ensures that those without such convictions will proceed with their designs unimpeded.
vagabond_nerd@reddit
The irony is those topics are what made people forge new paths in the past. Now everything is based on parroting a talking point from the media outlet of choice so debate becomes moot to extent. Real conversations would be nice but small talk is easier than confrontation.
kdawg09@reddit
I hang out with more aware people and the responses I have gotten is:
Even smarter left leaning, science based people are avoiding the reality. In their defense, there's not much we can do because no amount of prepping is likely to save our poor asses but still.
StarlightLifter@reddit
I think we are all just white knuckling it in.
What’s to be done? Honestly. I mean that as an honest question.
We all know that we can’t rely on fossil fuels, we never should have in the first place.
We have to stop, to avoid the worst damage we have to turn them all off - now, no exceptions except maybe to get planes on the ground and boats to port.
That’s it. But we can’t, we know we can’t, millions if not billions would die of malnourishment, exposure, lack of healthcare that all relies on fossil fuels in some way or another to work.
Then we have green energy, which has only served to lessen the rate at which we are still climbing on the CO2 ladder, but even with that we are STILL CLIMBING.
We have already fucking damned this planet we live on, we show no signs of stopping because for so many - it is the only way to survive - and we can’t just go asking millions or billions of people to willingly forfeit their lives so the earth can come down to a more realistic carrying capacity based number.
We are damned if we do, damned if we don’t. And most people have just no fucking idea about any of it and walk around blissfully. Even those who are “climate conscious” are almost entirely “climate delusional” as well.
Why the fuck do I gotta work today honestly.
The_UpsideDown_Time@reddit
The Planet is Dying but You've Got Work on Monday
Ok_Main3273@reddit
Because we don't know when, exactly, collapse will catch up with us. Yes, it's "Everything, Everywhere, All at once". But, on the individual level, our future situation is still unknown. Sure, we will certainly loose the roof above our heads, the convenience of buying food from a well-stocked supermarket and the access to live-saving healthcare in the near future. But at the moment, we have that (well, most of us here; many Syrian, Haitian and Afghan refugees would beg to differ). Hence the need to work.
Replace 'collapse' by 'death' and that is the same dilemma, something philosophers have been grappling with for centuries: why doing anything if we know we are going to die anyway?
Having said that, you've perfectly described the quandary of our modern civilization.
furman87@reddit
Makes me think of that line from The Big Short: "Everyone's walking around like they're in a goddamn Enya video "
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Although these days you can feel the direness underneath
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
By all accounts, it is too late to do anything about it.
daphosta@reddit
I dont know that we are keeping quiet due to temporary comfort. At least for me, I'm trying to provide for my family and that's it. That's all I have the energy and will power to focus on.
augustschild@reddit
"I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be..."
there's more...and it's as accurate today as it was in 1976.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-VF24H4Xrc
Itakethngzclitorally@reddit
I felt like that leading up to the elections. Once the verdict came down, I slumped to the ground and said, that was our last shot, that was it. The death knell has rung. No one wants to hang around me during parties lol
Paws_and_Plates_App@reddit
It feels entirely hopeless. Performative protesting is the best we get and they're taking the right to do so away as we speak. Our two party system is complicit and secretary aligned on passing laws that only benefit the ultra wealthy. Our government is at war with the working class and there are very few politicians who actually give a shit. Bernie was our best shot at preventing this... And it just gets worse as more gestapo forces are created and high end deep dive surveillance becomes widespread... Its gonna be a goddamn nightmare, we're already in a database for these comments alone. Oh, and not to mention the existential threat of Ai, we have a supposed 30% of it killing us if we let it get smarter than us without proper empathy constraints in place... I simply can't imagine a scenario where this all plays out well for us.
onionfunyunbunion@reddit
Well it’ll certainly play out worse for us if we don’t cooperate.
Paws_and_Plates_App@reddit
With each other or the system? I'm all about cooperation within the working class. Seizing the means of production and all that, I just have no idea how we do it.
onionfunyunbunion@reddit
Seizing the means of production is a ridiculous goal, at least for now. Building resilience in your community is what’s happening now. It’s just prepping on a community level man.
True-Vast-3731@reddit
Correct. The system is collapsing no matter what and it doesn't matter who owns the means of production.
That means community resilience and self reliance are going to be more important than ever. This is the future coming for all of us
wildalexx@reddit
Syonoq@reddit
But….by all metrics…it’s already too late
MrFishAndLoaves@reddit
Spoiler alert: It’s too late.
onionfunyunbunion@reddit
Man I’ve been shouting from the rooftops and it is not welcome. Folks just want to avoid it. I found some solace in volunteering just to be around other people who care. It’s taken the edge off, while simultaneously being a source of frustration because, of course, we can’t possibly do enough.
Odd_Awareness1444@reddit
What is extremely frustrating to me is I can't talk to my extended family about it. They immediately shut it down or divert to more "pleasant" topics. It's head in the sand syndrome.
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
The similar case is with my family, or rather most of my country (Serbia) is in a similar situation. I can only freely discuss topics about collapse on this subreddit.
CrackingToastGromet@reddit
Absolutely not alone.
Since Dec 31, 2025 my shop of 4 years closed, I’ve had to file personal bankruptcy, and last night my mom passed away.
All of savings went into trying to save my business so I don’t even have that to fall back on. It’s a struggle
I just started an hourly warehouse job at $19 an hour because it’s the only job that contacted me for an interview and hired me. The plus size is it’s close enough to bike to so I save on fuel!
I am a 52 year old woman with a degree in communications, an interesting work history spanning from Los Angeles to London.
WTAF is this life? I thought I’d be cruising comfortably in my 50s towards retirement,and I’d be financially fine like my parents were at the same point. Not even necessarily wealthy, just on track for a decent retirement.
I have nothing. I am completely restarting life and realizing retirement may never happen now, I’ll be hauling boxes until my last puff. What a final act!
Life has taken a nosedive straight into the shitter for so many, maybe Trump meant it with his AI slop video of him dumping poop on Americans.
really_isnt_me@reddit
I’m so sorry about your mom. 💔
DivaExMachina666@reddit
I'm very sorry for your loss. Any one of those things would be enough.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Oh he definitely means it. Such is the way of malignancy.
Lavendercrimson12@reddit
I read something the other day, possibly in this sub. The whole American Lifestyle, not to mention the "American Dream" is an absolute anomaly. Never in history has a generation (Boomers) been so perfectly positioned between record setting economic growth, technological advancement, resource extraction, and population expansion.
The author put it better than I did, anyway. But essentially, this idea that one can just constantly accumulate wealth and buy bigger and bigger houses and cars, have more and more kids, that share prices could go up and up and up and up and...it's just not how this works.
I_like_the_word_MUFF@reddit
You really think it's 70 year olds?
Or could it be Billionaires?
I feel like blaming a whole lot of people who are also living hand to mouth feels like elitist propaganda.
Like blaming brown people for not having a job.
Like blaming the neighbor that's not recycling.
Corporations and Billionaires actually have more to do with all those than anyone or anything else.
dancingCreatrixx@reddit
Infinite Growth on a finite planet ... ya sure about that!? lol ... siiiigh
ihateusedusernames@reddit
archdruidreport, TheOilDrum, and DoTheMath all persuaded me that We, as in the developed world, need transition to a steady state economy with incentives to reuse materials before extracting, taxing materials and wealth before labor, and decarbonizing energy and transport.
Big goals, but designed to avoid what's looking more and more likely: Competition for resources leads to instability leads to disruption and dissolution of developed world economic systems.
mamroz@reddit
I want to go back to pre-Industrial revolution. I want to live on a farm, get around in a carriage and write letters again.
TheIrishWanderer@reddit
You could always join the Amish.
He2oinMegazord@reddit
Is that a thing you can just like, do?
TheIrishWanderer@reddit
I just looked it up out of curiosity, and apparently it's possible, albeit difficult. Not something I'd ever consider, but I could imagine living a quieter life in nature sometime in future.
He2oinMegazord@reddit
We should start our own amish. But like, with lights and refrigerators and stuff
pseudohim@reddit
One with rights for women & minorities would be great.
ThatsFae@reddit
That’s just called being Mennonite. /s
He2oinMegazord@reddit
Yeah, thats fair. I just dont want to have to wear those real uncomfortable (albeit durable) lookin clothes. Im also not real big on the whole god thing. Like theres gotta be some moderate compromise right?
mamroz@reddit
Yeah! Like the Amish but not Amish At. All.
Less Amish, more Brontë!
fedfuzz1970@reddit
We did that in our mid-late 70s. I was raised on a farm by working class parents. They lived on my uncle's farm in a ramshackle house. My wife and I moved to a 3 acre farm at 3100' in Blue Ridge Mtns. in 2014. Built the chicken coop, organic garden, learned beekeeping, made our own maple syrup. mushrooms on logs in the creek. We had assets to do that but I think if like-minded people pooled assets they could do it too. I'm not a polyanna, it takes work but very satisfying work when you bring the veggies in and they are cooked for dinner or are a salad. Neighbors surprisingly progressive--shared, swapped and enjoyed life until age took us over.
Napoleon_B@reddit
r/homesteading
r/offgridcabins
ihateusedusernames@reddit
Anyone can make choices to lower the energy intensity of their lifestyle
luminousrose9@reddit
Antibiotics and modern dentistry are nice though
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Word processing , too
Livid-Rutabaga@reddit
Yes, we can't have infinite growth on a finite planet, the ones who are growing are draining resources from others, it's not sustainable.
AdKlutzy7336@reddit
Infinite growth on a mammal is called cancer. It only stops when it has destroyed the mammal.
hardcorr@reddit
Yeah something like 15 years ago when I was in college a friend of mine said that he considers humankind as a form of cancer on the Earth and that has lived with me ever since. Of course, he has a kid now, go figure...
ProxyMuncher@reddit
Cancer cells gonna cancer cell. Choosing to be child free is a form of apoptosis in response. Real apoptosis is.. well.. yeah.
GreyRobb@reddit
Nailed it. I read Limits To Growth in 2020 & 2 other books by Donella Meadows, and digested it. Spent a year in crisis trying to plan my way out of the consequences that are mathematical guarantees ahead of us in the remainder of my lifetime. Eventually I let go of that, and accepted the inevitable. In the meantime I live as ethically as I can & enjoy the wonders left to us in the world. I know I won't live to the ripe old age my parents will (I'm mid Gen-X), and will just check out on my own terms when the world and life become too miserable. So glad I never had kids.
DenseBeautiful731@reddit
You need 5 whole Earths if every person on this wretched planet lived like the average American. The average…
America, of all countries, won’t stop consuming shit to save humanity.
Extreme-Guitar-9274@reddit
Not getting too detailed for privacy but im rather well connected socially in several major cities and get to do things most people would think was a pretty awesome life. Lately I'm so tired of it all, I get no joy out "owning stuff" or "being seen". I would LOVE "social sue-eh-cide" and dissappear to my Cabin. Very small place, not "renovated or updated", but its a nice view out the window, big chunk of land, a wood stove, I can hunt, and thats enough for me. My wife, I love her, but shes someone that thrives on the social stuff. I get dragged to a lot of things and have to smile at people I dont care about, people that seem to like me, but I just want to say sometimes, "If it wasnt for her none of you would ever see me again". I dont want stuff, I dont want superficial relationships, I dont want a big house or "nice car". I just want peace, quiet, clean air, simple but edible food.
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
I wouldn't lump them all together. It's more of a problem for the Anglos, plenty of EU residents are extremely frugal or at least, minimalistic compared to Americans.
DenseBeautiful731@reddit
3.17 Earths for the entire continent as of 2024 data.
For your reference:
Eastern Europe: 3.66
Northern Europe: 3.04
Southern Europe: 2.68
Western Europe: 3.00
Luxembourg: 7.68
Estonia: 6.18
Sweden: 4.92
Denmark: 4.65
Belgium: 3.64
NA: 5.1
LATAM: 1.66
Oceania: 1.9
My country’s at 0.94.
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
Mine's at 1.5.
DenseBeautiful731@reddit
No, it’s 2.11 (2022 data) for Ukraine and 3.08 for Poland.
Ok_Main3273@reddit
Well said.
TheOldPug@reddit
The below-replacement birth rate is the only ray of good news.
03263@reddit
It doesn't do much for me. Resource extraction keeps accelerating despite ostensibly fewer consumers. Energy use keeps going up and we know the climate and various ecosystems are already fucked beyond repair.
HybridVigor@reddit
The birth rate may be below replacement in most of the world, but the population has not yet stopped growing. The lowest estimate I've ever seen for a peak is at ten billion.
DenseBeautiful731@reddit
Yep, and I’m doing my part! 🥴
augustschild@reddit
Amen.
MarcusXL@reddit
Don't forget they benefitted from the brief period between LBJ's New Deal and Johnson's The Great Society when Americans actually had a social safety net and strong unions.
And then they got right to work dismantling all of that for future generations.
adriayna@reddit
Truth. They had so much and they are still in power dismantling it for the rest. They are the most selfish generation!
Appropriate-Talk1948@reddit
FDR
sg92i@reddit
America was always an anomaly, part of why the revolutionary war happened was because over in England families were actually pretty small because the cost of living was so high that families had to choose not to have as many children in order to financially exist.
But in the New World, after being depopulated by smallpox, there was so much "empty" land that for the first three hundred years or so (1492-1792) families were comparatively HUGE because even the poor had access to enough land, even if they were renters, that they could make it work. So you'd have something like 3 kids in England or 9 in the new world, at the same profession/income level.
In a trip to England Ben Franklin talked about this and the Crown realized how quickly the British subjects in the new world would out-size England in population size and how hard it would be to control them as subordinates and that's part of what fed their authoritarian streak in the 1700s to nip-the-colonists-in-the-bud before they could start thinking they had any real say in anything. Its easier to keep the subordinate submissive than to try to get them back in line after they start thinking and acting on their own.
Nom-De-Gruyere@reddit
Humans are most happy when they have a frontier to conquer. "Empty" space to expand into and build their own world, even if it means hardship and work in the short term. This is why from the moment of industrialization we should have been focussed on getting off planet and living sustainabily as space faring nomads. Because it would mean we can do what our species does, spreading across the universe like a plague forever, and be truly fulfilled and satisfied at being able to live as our nature intended without destroying our own world. Billions would die attempting to cross space and find habitable worlds, but it wouldn't matter. We would all be united by the hope of founding our own worlds somewhere. Instead we wasted the one time fossil energy to generate videos of virtual cats and constantly move ourselves between workplace and home that are stupidly far apart. Now as energy availability declines and we have fucked our environment for nothing we will fall back into murdering each other to survive.
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
Well, unfortunately, the low gravity of space stations (and therefore, of smaller planets with lower density cores) has devastating consequences on human body. Especially on the heart and skeletal muscles. Exploration needs to be automated.
Few_Fish8771@reddit
Spin gravit. oneil cylinders, stanford torus, bishop rings. All habitat designs.
sg92i@reddit
I must be an anomaly because I am most happy in a rural area with a lot of history and stability. Give me a bunch of old churches & cemeteries, old timey buildings (1950s hotels, 1920s car dealerships, victorian houses), and not a lot of people to bother me and I can entertain myself forever.
TernarySquare0123@reddit
"Conquest" is the aberration, not you.
I hope we never get the chance to ruin another planet.
KlicknKlack@reddit
which, ironically, caused them to start thinking independently... even though throughout the lead up to the revolutionary war/rebellion/uprising, a majority of colonists viewed themselves as british subjects("citizens") even if they were born here and had never visited england.
PithyCyborg@reddit (OP)
That's such an interesting thought.
The perpetual, comfortable growth you describe goes against natural law.
It does not happen in nature.
Think about it... Nature is brutal.
Humans made it even worse.
Cordially,
Mike D
Professional-Way6952@reddit
It does happen in nature but is always followed with a corrective response. Population overshoot.
hiddendrugs@reddit
Eh. Not just population overshoot. It’s the whole principle behind something like circular economics. A cherry tree grows while nourishing everything around it. Eventually it will decay but in that time, a seed can be nourished so the tree’s life continues, in a way. Not sure how we cherry tree an entire global economy, but there at least will probably be a transition to planned economies as crises intensify.
True-Vast-3731@reddit
Or it'll just collapse and go extinct.
Notice in your example the cherry tree gives back. What exactly has this society given back to the natural world?
hiddendrugs@reddit
yeah 😔 precisely.
PatDar@reddit
I hate that I'm that guy saying this, but I've been having some deep "conversations" with Gemini about this exact thing just yesterday. Here's a summary from this one chat:
"The Core Thesis: Manufactured Decay and the High-Tech Escape The modern socio-economic system is not failing by accident; it is functioning exactly as designed. We are living through a period of manufactured decay, where the ultra-wealthy and the military-industrial complex are actively liquidating the assets, health, and sovereignty of the public to maintain endless growth and fund geopolitical aggression. To keep the public compliant, the system weaponizes comfort, trapping citizens in a cycle of dependency. Surviving the inevitable collapse of this system requires a radical shift away from passive consumerism and toward a "High-Tech Peasantry"—a lifestyle that merges the localized, self-sufficient wisdom of pre-industrial societies with the precision of modern science. Here is a breakdown of the structural pillars of this thesis: 1. The Machinery of Liquidation (The Rigged Game) The system is designed to extract wealth from the bottom and funnel it to the top, using geopolitical conflict as the primary engine. War as an Asset Class: Expenditures like the multi-billion dollar war in Iran are not just foreign policy; they are a domestic wealth-transfer mechanism. By utilizing multi-year contracts and $4 million interceptors to fight $30,000 drones, taxpayer money is guaranteed to flow to major defense contractors regardless of the outcome. Aggressive Accounting and Blame-Shifting: To fund this, the state relies on deficit spending and inflation—a stealth tax that devalues middle-class savings while inflating the assets of the wealthy. The system "kicks the can" down the road, masking the decay with rigged economic numbers until the debt bubble becomes the next administration's problem. The Privatization of Survival: As domestic infrastructure and social safety nets are cut to fund defense budgets, public goods are sold off to private equity. The goal is to create a "subscription society" where citizens own nothing and must perpetually rent their basic needs. 2. The Weaponization of Comfort (The Normalcy Bias) The reason this liquidation happens without a revolution is because of the Entropy of Comfort. The public trades long-term sovereignty for short-term convenience. Architectural and Biological Fragility: We have abandoned passive, climate-resilient living (like the ventilated homes of the early 1960s) for "glass boxes" completely dependent on the HVAC grid. We have biologically de-skilled ourselves to the point where an interruption in our "subscription to cold air" transforms our homes into fatal solar ovens. The Comfort Trap: Comfort is used as anesthesia. As long as the internet is on and cheap calories are available, the "Normalcy Bias" convinces people to reject the evidence of their own eyes and ears, keeping them docile while their environment is hollowed out. 3. The Inevitable Shattering This system is mathematically and thermodynamically bound to fail. It is operating wildly beyond the Earth's true carrying capacity (roughly 2.5 billion for sustainable high-quality living, compared to our current 8.3 billion). The Positive Feedback Loop: Our attempts to maintain the illusion of control—like running millions of AC units that heat up the outside world, requiring even more AC—accelerate the ecological and grid collapse. The Snap: The illusion will shatter not through a sudden Hollywood-style apocalypse, but when the physical reality of the decay (grid failures, unlivable heatwaves, hyperinflation of food/energy) breaches the buffer of abstraction. 4. The Escape: Radical Neo-Peasantry If the act of living is inherently destructive, the moral imperative is to make that destruction deliberate, minimized, and decoupled from the extraction machine. We cannot all move to 5-acre farms, as that would destroy the remaining biosphere. The solution is the High-Tech Peasant. Modern Monasticism: Adopting the closed-loop, zero-waste principles of Tudor-era monasteries, but upgrading them with 21st-century science. Scientific Herbalism and Biology: Using ethnobotany, precision fermentation, and microbiome management to grow medicine and dense nutrition in a fraction of the space. Architectural Sovereignty: Returning to passive house principles—using thermal mass, modern glazing, and atmospheric water generation—to break the addiction to the centralized energy grid. Vertical and Dense Independence: Utilizing Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA) within communities to maximize yield while minimizing footprint, allowing the vast majority of the earth to re-wild. In Summary: The "powers that be" rely on an exhausted, biologically fragile, and debt-burdened population. Breaking their game requires individuals to voluntarily step into the discomfort of building parallel, highly efficient, and locally sovereign systems before the rigged game mathematically runs out of road."
tmleadr03@reddit
Chatgpt response to that: This is a coherent style of argument, but it’s doing a lot of heavy lifting with assumptions that don’t actually hold up when you separate evidence, incentives, and physics from narrative framing. A useful way to read it is: it mixes (1) real structural critiques of modern systems, (2) speculative worst-case extrapolations, and (3) some outright incorrect or ungrounded claims—then fuses them into a single “total model” where everything points in one direction (intentional collapse + coordinated extraction). That last step is where it stops being analysis and becomes a closed story. Let’s unpack a few key pressure points. 1. “Manufactured decay” vs systems behaving badly There are strong incentives in modern economies that produce outcomes like: wealth concentration regulatory capture in some industries overreliance on debt and financialization defense procurement inefficiencies in specific programs But those are better explained by competing incentives and bureaucracy, not a unified intent or coordinated “liquidation strategy.” In real systems, you usually get: misaligned incentives short-term optimization lobbying pressure path dependence Not a single coherent steering mechanism. The “it is designed exactly as it is functioning” leap is rhetorically powerful, but it skips the question: designed by whom, through what coordination, with what enforcement, and with what evidence of unified intent across competing states and firms? That evidentiary chain usually isn’t there. 2. War as “wealth transfer engine” Defense spending does move money to contractors. That part is true in a narrow sense. But the claim that wars are primarily structured as domestic enrichment machines runs into problems: wars often destroy capital faster than they “transfer” it governments routinely waste money without strategic coordination contractors compete heavily; outcomes aren’t centrally optimized geopolitical decisions are often reactive, not planned revenue schemes You can critique defense procurement inefficiency without concluding intentional cyclical extraction. Also, specific claims like a current “multi-billion dollar war in Iran” don’t match publicly verifiable reality in the way this framing implies. That kind of detail is a red flag that the narrative is blending real geopolitical tension with imagined or misattributed events. 3. “Carrying capacity = 2.5 billion” This is one of the most common pseudo-precise claims in collapse narratives. The issue is: carrying capacity is not a fixed number. It depends on: diet composition (meat-heavy vs plant-heavy) technology (fertilizer, desalination, vertical farming) energy systems waste and distribution efficiency You can absolutely argue that current consumption patterns are ecologically unsustainable in certain domains (carbon, biodiversity loss, nitrogen cycles). That’s real. But converting that into a single stable population cap is not scientifically grounded. It gives false precision to a highly dynamic system. 4. “Thermodynamic inevitability of collapse” Energy and feedback loops matter, but societies are not closed thermodynamic machines in the way this framing implies. They: adapt technologically shift resource bases change consumption patterns under price pressure restructure grids and infrastructure over time We do see stress cycles (energy prices, grid strain, climate impacts), but “inevitable snap collapse” is not a supported conclusion from those dynamics alone. History is actually more consistent with: uneven stress partial failures regional divergence gradual adaptation + occasional shocks Not a single global phase transition. 5. “High-Tech Peasantry” / neo-monastic survival model This part is the most internally coherent—but it’s also where the ideology hardens. There is value in: decentralization resilience thinking local food systems where feasible passive building design reducing fragility in supply chains But the leap from “build resilience” to “exit a collapsing system run by extraction logic” turns practical preparedness into a worldview that assumes systemic total failure is the baseline. That shift matters, because it changes behavior from: “increase optionality and resilience” to: “withdraw because the system is fundamentally illegitimate and terminal” Those are very different psychological and practical orientations. The underlying pattern here What you pasted is not unusual in the sense that it resembles a known narrative structure: identify real inefficiencies and inequalities reinterpret them as intentional design extend them to total-system explanation project inevitable collapse propose partial withdrawal as moral necessity It feels explanatory because it reduces complexity. But it does so by collapsing many independent causes into one unified cause—and that’s where accuracy breaks. A grounding way to think about it A more reality-consistent version would be: Modern systems are fragile in places and resilient in others Incentives produce waste, inequality, and misallocation Environmental and energy constraints are real but nonlinear There is no evidence of coordinated “liquidation strategy” Adaptation and degradation happen simultaneously Both fragility and inertia are true at the same time. If you want, I can also do a sharper “fact audit” line-by-line on that text (what’s supported, what’s speculative, what’s incorrect). That usually makes the structure of these arguments much clearer very quickly.
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PatDar@reddit
So chatgpt has safeguards in place to prevent it from seeing some pretty basic stuff. It basically told me to not worry because bankers and logistics would prevent anything bad from ever happening. Try the same thing with Gemini and see what it says
BannedSvenhoek86@reddit
Brother/Sister
Stop doing that. Go read books, then go read books that challenge the ideas you just read. Yes, read, not audiobook. The act of forcing your mind to focus on a singular task is part of the growth you'll get from the experience.
You're reading cobbled together ideas from actually enlightened philosophers and academics put together by an algorithm trying it's best to make you happy. Stop doing that, even if it feel like you're getting smarter you aren't. What you posted is almost schizoposting and hard to even parse for someone who hasn't been using a chat bot for days on end.
Lost_Birthday_3138@reddit
I know we're not allowed to say AI can be useful in any way, but I was able to read through that just fine and it seems like a pretty reasonable description of our predicament.
imalostkitty-ox0@reddit
Right, it’s just a basic hatred of all things AI-related, which I ABSOLUTELY do share with the other commenters, but that doesn’t mean the person controlling the AI can never prompt it into producing something salient
PatDar@reddit
So what if I told you I have a degree in Molecular Biology and maybe it sounds crazy cause I have social anxiety but I prefer to follow the idea of the Allegory of the Cave and that it's our imperative to help others. I asked it very basic questions and treat it more as a glorified search tool than some magic AI genie.
I would love to talk more about it though.
tmleadr03@reddit
Something to consider, AI is like a really smart puppy. It wants to please you and will follow your conclusions and build off of them. Ask it to build a steelman argument against what you just posted. It will help with your view of the world and possibly your mental state. I know when I get AI to follow me down some darker roads it helps to have to build the case against where I arrived.
PatDar@reddit
I know and that's the most annoying part honestly. I got rid of the personalization so every time I chat with it, I get to start with a clean template. Once it begins tunnelling or behaving erratically, I'll delete the chat and begin a new one fresh.
I started with current events and the Strait of Hormuz and asked it a few basic questions and got to that conclusion in maybe an hour?
Swiftychops@reddit
Not one person is gonna read that shit man, go read real philosophers
PatDar@reddit
What if I've told you I've had whole classes on philosophy and ethics and I'm that nerd that was just looking at my old notebooks the other day.
Who's your favorite philosopher and why?
ditchdiggergirl@reddit
Yes, one demographic of people born amidst an unusual confluence of advantageous economic circumstances experienced a remarkable surge in standard of living.
Then everyone born later, many raised to take for granted advantages the boomers didn’t yet have access to, started crying, “why did those evil meanies take the boom away from us! Not fair! That was our birthright!” As though the boom a) was normal and somehow should have become permanent, and b) was something the boomers controlled.
wiseoldfox@reddit
Yeah, the sweet spot was 1945-1970. I was born in 1960 and the three male role models in my life (father, grandfather and uncle) all worked for the same companies throughout their careers. Stay at home mom and aunt. It truly was an anomaly.
rematar@reddit
I agree it's a anomaly. My GenZ kids got to experience that during my career at one place.
SarcasticBimbo@reddit
I'm sitting better than a lot of people, right now. I'm on disability and Section 8 Housing. That being said, I'm still feeling the same way.
SRod1706@reddit
I think I am mostly passed the crisis part. I have accepted that things will continue to get worse in every way. Plus I am getting older which adds to the shit show. I am just trying to mitigate these things in my life where possible. The issues I face is that without anyone else around me who is aware of how bad things will be, building a network is almost impossible. No matter what happens, humans do better in groups.
Once you get passed the ideas that things should be a different way you are able you move forward. Things cannot be better. Things will not get better. The world will not turn around. We are all doomed and it is not just one thing that is causing it. It is multiple issues. There is no easy fix. There is no hard fix. There is no fix. Human nature has lead to this since we had to become farmers because we hunted mega fauna to extinction passed the lands carrying capacity for us. The fight to preserve hope is what causes the most stress.
calico134@reddit
Well said. People forget this really is an ancient problem. I'm not convinced it was inevitable from the start, but now there seems to be no force that can stop our systems' inertia until our environment fails. I'm sick of having to swallow bitter truths, but that's the times we live in.
Seems like most people I know don't have much in the way of support networks, aside from the religious. Saying that doesn't make it better, but I don't think it's any one individual's fault. We've been set up to fail. I am frightened to think of what will happen to all of our atomized individuals when the lights go out and there is zero trust.
I hope you have a nice day.
SarcasticBimbo@reddit
I'm on social security disability and section 8 housing so I'm sitting better than a lot of people. I no longer own a car. I get my groceries delivered and anything my daughter and I need that we don't want to pay for delivery, she walks to get us.
That being said, I'm just waiting for 47 to stop that program, in which case, I would be extremely inclined to self-delete. I'm Gen-X, btw.
kdawg09@reddit
After Renee Good, I broke down and started mentally preparing myself for the coming -redacted-
I was absolutely spiraling, and questioning my own sanity and when it was "go" time. To be clear I have no plans on surving, or sticking around at all when things finally capoo in our faces so when I say go time....
Lately I'm practicing radical acceptance. It is all really bad and it will capoo, but I can't actually control any of that so what can I control? Maybe that's delusional disassociation but for now it's all I can do, plan the next meal and figure out what needs done to survive today.
I'm sorry you and everyone else is going through this. It sucks guys, really, but I hope you all can find some level of peace even if it's just delusional disassociation for now.
SwampTerror@reddit
What the hell is capoo and please dont tell me its another stupid tiktokism.
2quickdraw@reddit
You have an excellent point. We're all going to die, most of us don't know exactly when, and for those of us who do I'm sorry. But it doesn't stop day to day existence. We don't live in the future, we live in the moment. So all we can do is breathe life into each moment, look for any small good thing moment to moment, and stay present and in the now, and make peace with it. If we are okay in the moment then we are okay. If we are not okay then the next moment is soon upon us, and after a number of moments we either are still not okay, or possibly we are closer to being okay or even great for the next sequence of moments.
So depending on the flavor of our series of moments, we are either finding moments of peace and stringing them together, or we are in survival mode and surviving moment to moment. Or we're not, and if we're not we're using each moment to figure out how to get back to that feeling of ground and steadiness. Nothing is permanent, nothing is forever. Life is constant change. Fighting against the current of the River of Life is exhausting, it's easier to float on the surface, keep our head above the water, our breath study, and ease our way to shore. It doesn't mean we coast, it means we do what we can and accept things as they are, moment to moment.
I hope that isn't all gibberish, I'm tired it's late for me, but I will recommend Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now". It helps with reframing ones reference on life, it helps with finding what is still good even as we are pretty much circling the drain. It could be a heck of a view on the way down, and we can choose to focus on that.
PurpleAriadne@reddit
It all seems so pointless. There are no adults in charge, there is no grand scheme except ruthless money making.
The world was big enough in the past where you could get away and make your own way. Now with technology and overpopulation it has become so small.
UnicornFarts1111@reddit
That is the point of what this administration is trying to do. It is working.
Annihilator4413@reddit
I'm almost 30 stuck working dead-end retail jobs because I literally can not afford the time or money for higher education.
I'm also living with my grandma in her house with my mom and my aunt and her two kids because they can't afford rent and utilities anywhere and neither can I.
My close friends are all in the same boat. Idk if they're having existing issues but I know I am.
I've done everything my family has told me to do since I was a kid and I've made it fucking nowhere in life.
I've had a job since I was 16. I went to a local community college when I graduated high-school, and when I graduated there I got a job in my studied field only to find out it pad the exact same as I was making at Walmart as a fucking cashier.
Them I quit there and went back to retail jobs because I realized my industry was a scam.
The amount of time I've taken off work in the last 6 years is like three months total not counting days off obviously.
I'm stuck in the perpetual grindind machine that the corporate elite have created through manipulation of the government at all levels. I am so fucking sick of just... everything. So sick I almost don't even care anymore.
The only really good thing to happen to me in the last two years is my girlfriend, who I met last year and started dating a few months ago. I want to build a life with her but how am I supposed to do that when my wages have stayed practically the same since I was 16, meanwhile inflation is making everything even more unobtainable for me??? Like hello????
At this point I fucking HOPE everything goes to shit soon, for the express purpose of us getting to put things back together where everyone hasa real, fair shot in life unlike how shit has been for the last 40 years... assuming the good side wins...
2quickdraw@reddit
A hundred years ago families lived three or four generations to a house. It was a smarter way to live, there was family support and help and the bills and burdens were divided.
That's good that you have family, if you hopefully all get along. It means you're all helping your grandma because imagine her dealing with everything alone. Everybody has the support of the family. Everybody needs to pull together to help with chores and maintenance of the house and help pay all the bills and be frugal for now going forward. It's actually a huge asset for everyone under that roof if you all work together.
Annihilator4413@reddit
You're missing the point man. I do help my grandma, we all do, but while thats good she doesn't NEED help. She's helping me and I greatly appreciate it
But the problem is I want my own damn place where I can start my own family. I've done everything my family told me to do and yet I've gotten nowhere.
I can't start a family if I'm living with my grandma. I need my own house on my own land but that's just not possible. I'm quickly approaching burnout from working my ass off to get exactly nowhere.
ahmtiarrrd@reddit
Kudos to the 66.6%. I wonder what their secret is.
2quickdraw@reddit
Mostly low IQ, lack of education, and general overall ignorance is my guess.
Known_Expression1308@reddit
i had mine 10 years ago. Now i am meditating my way through the end times.
2quickdraw@reddit
Same, but I'm FURIOUS and HORRENDOUSLY GRIEF STRICKEN, so it doesn't help as much as it used to.
loralailoralai@reddit
Should be more given what you’re doing to the world.
2quickdraw@reddit
This is not the first country where this has happened and it won't be the last. Don't let it happen to yours. Hungary just saved itself. Don't give up on us yet, we are not all egregiously deplorable Trumphumping mouth breathers. Those of us who aren't and who are aware of the depth and breadth of everything going on in the world today are terrified. Even a crumb of compassion is welcome.
Kindly-Scar-3224@reddit
The same third who voted for trump?
2quickdraw@reddit
My sincerest wish!
itchyd@reddit
I was waiting for the collapse but we are in it. Rent up wages down, more and more people crammed into one apartment while homes sit empty everywhere.
Prices grossly out of control.
We need french revolution levels of change to get out of this.
Throwawayyacc22@reddit
Haha I understand it, sometimes I feel that way, this sounds totally insane, but don’t think about it.
You could say I’m coping, my rebuttal is yes, that’s all any of us do, the only reason you do anything is so you don’t sit around and think about what’s going to happen to you.
Take care of yourself! It’s tough and will get tougher, god bless us
brezhnervouz@reddit
I've been having one for over 40 years 🙄 but yes it's definitely exacerbated now
KingOfKeshends@reddit
We have to focus on a new way forward. In the words of Clara Matai,,we need to "escape capitalism". In my opinion, the Integral Collective looks like our best chance on how we can make this a better world to live in.
Mountain-Avocado79@reddit
Same
GusherBrush@reddit
I thought COVID-19 would bring us together, but seeing how it drove us apart, I lost all hope in people.
I'm thankful for the decreasing birth rates. Less suffering in this world.
davidm2232@reddit
It drove some people together. My friend group was tighter than ever. The community at our local lake really banded together against the state and the crazy regulations. All the small businesses in the county worked together to help each other. It was great to see. The state government was a disaster though.
smadab@reddit
This reads to me like your community banded together, not because of concerns about a spreading pathogen killing people, but because public measures to mitigate the spread of that pathogen (however misguided in hindsight) and reduce mortality kept you from going boating.
I'm not sure that's the kind of "bring us together" the op was referring to.
davidm2232@reddit
Boating is a great way to bring people together and build relationships. There was also a big push to support small businesses. The mom and pop bar got shut down but Applebee's could run basically as normal with plastic dividers everwhere.
smadab@reddit
I didn't say it wasn't. I'm only commenting that your example of "coming together" during a deadly global pandemic is probably not what op meant.
"Man, there's a deadly global viral pandemic filling up hospitals with sick people and overflowing morgues with dead people. Maybe I should come together with my local community, follow health guidelines as best I can, and provide some mutual aid"
Is not quite the same as...
"Man, there's a deadly global viral pandemic filling up hospitals with sick people and overflowing morgues with dead people. Wait, but I can't go boating? Better come together with my boating pals and resist these crazy health regulations."
davidm2232@reddit
Except we knew it was a myth. The hospitals were empty and from everyone I have talked to in the 6 years since, I think there was one person that actually died from covid that was otherwise healthy. The hospitals were so empty that some of the nurses were laid off. Then as vaccine mandates came in, they fired 20% of the staff for not getting the vaccine. We rallied to support small businesses and the community while opposing a totalitarian government that did not understand our reality. That sounds like coming together to me
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Jovan_Knight005@reddit
If needed, i'll contribute to the decline of birth rates in countries around the world. As a man, of course.
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
You can always get a vasectomy. It's accessible and inexpensive, even if you go the medical tourism route.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Covid showed us how truly people won’t come together. How dare you tell me to wear a mask
Itakethngzclitorally@reddit
The only true grief I have is the idea of my children suffering. I hope they don’t have children in the future (in another lifetime I’d NEVER feel this way) so at least they won’t know this feeling beyond their own pain.
hw999@reddit
Oh you mean the slow descent into fascism along with impending ecosystem collapse isn't good for mental well being?
Autocannibal-Horse@reddit
Late stage Gen X here... everything is a shitshow. Boomers and their inattentive, unloving "silent" generation parents are to blame. Oh and that silent generation is anything but fucking silent. They are all a bunch of shrill, winey bitches. Last I checked, many are past their "sell by" date and should move the hell on.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Silent generation came two generations before boomers
Autocannibal-Horse@reddit
No, that's the Greatest Generation.
This is super easy to google. You should feel bad because you made a mistake on the internet. /s
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Oh shit I got them backwards
Autocannibal-Horse@reddit
No worries! I did that too before i typed my original comment! 🙂
TheUpbeatCrow@reddit
Gen X here as well, but I had two Silents for parents. What this person said.
Dreadsin@reddit
Honestly sometimes I feel like I’m in a repeating nightmare like Donnie Darko or something
I get a job, it seems good at first until it works me to my wits end, I can’t find anything that takes my mind off of the constant stress. Standards keep getting absurdly higher and higher, as if I’m supposed to do the job of 5 people, all with different roles. I do this for 2 years until I have literally nothing else to give, quit or get fired, take 3 months off, then somehow the entire process starts again. I don’t even feel rested from those months off
Then at the same time there’s some news story every day about some narcissist doing something thats gonna change everything. “We have breaking news” every. Single. Day. Oh this guy attacked some other country for no discernible reason? This other guy is trying to automate all the work away? Just fucking calm down. Chiiiiilll.
Then I feel like I’m going insane cause everyone’s just acting completely normal and I’m like… are they just pretending? They see what’s going on too right? But yet the stock market is up, houses are more expensive than ever, but people can’t even get basic jobs anymore
It-s_Not_Important@reddit
Anybody that’s not having at least a mild existential crisis is either too busy to think, too dumb to comprehend, too insulated from reality, or they’ve already gotten to the acceptance stage.
pm_me_fibonaccis@reddit
Millions of Americans are being psychologically tormented solely for the ego of one man.
whitebandit@reddit
surely all our problems are because of the 1 guy
sherilaugh@reddit
He's not just torturing the Americans.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
That doesn’t make it untrue
pm_me_fibonaccis@reddit
That's true. That's very true and I apologize for not phrasing it better. When you're constantly bombarded with a new outrage every day it's hard to remember he's hurting people who had even less of a choice for him to be President than even I did.
sherilaugh@reddit
I'm in Canada. The difference in news is a stark contrast. It doesn't even seem like tornados get covered in the USA anymore. Meanwhile Canadian is still giving traffic reports and mentioning smaller crime. Usa seems to be the trump show. Unfortunately we have a majority USA media here as well. I actually had to give up watching the news entirely for ages as it's mentally taxing to be so consumed by American political insanity.
Left-Community2418@reddit
Oh my God!! Poor americans! Thoughts and prayers.
Left-Community2418@reddit
Oh my God!! Poor americans! Toughts and prayers.
sneekiepee@reddit
I'm a Xennial and you're absolutely not alone.
davidm2232@reddit
I'm one of the ones that thinks it will be okay. Covid was supposed to be this big crazy thing but nothing changed. My life has been on the same path since I was a kid without many unexpected changes. I am about where I expected to be, maybe a little further ahead from plans I made 20 years ago as a teenager. I attribute that to the support of my family, friends, and local community. Having a network of people who can help you when you need it or where you can help them is huge.
Horticulture_Warrior@reddit
"I'm one of the ones that thinks it will be okay."
Clearly you have some level of concern to be posting on r/collapse.
davidm2232@reddit
I think collapse will happen. But we will adapt and find new ways forward
NoFactor5369@reddit
We’re all awake, we’re tired and we’re over it. All this shit going on in the world, the lies from our government, all the bullshit. We’ve all realized that everything we’ve been taught is basically a lie. The system we got thrown into is a lie.
Maybe I’m just rambling like an insane person but that’s where I think we are as a society and we’re freaking out, rightfully so.
thatguitarist@reddit
This is AI right
Pleasant-Winner6311@reddit
Take a leap and speak deeply to someone in person. There are so many of us out there waiting for that to happen. We're all goign about our days lonely and depressed and when someone says theyre not ok its a relife.
If not speaking in person, get off the keyboard and dial a number. Youll be surprised. Have faith.
EastTyne1191@reddit
I keep having these conversations with people and inevitably there's a moment where I just wonder aloud "what are we even doing??" The truth is, no one knows. Gotta work, gotta eat, gotta drive the kids places, all while there's a looming cloud above our heads. It's surreal.
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
One really great bit of therapy is to start growing things if you aren't currently doing so. Start with the basics -- grow a food plant of any kind. Read up on basic growing methods. Pick up some soil, a grow light, some seeds. Keeping something alive, or even better, raising thriving plants, is a perfect antidote to the death cult that is politics and economics right now globally.
lowrads@reddit
It is hard on the back. A couple of herb plots go a long way though.
Realistically, the symbol of resilience in every corner of the planet, though mainly in kitchen pantries, has always been pickling jars. You can put practically anything in them. Admittedly, it's an acquired taste.
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
There are ways to manage the physical demands of gardening/farming. I am older, so I can do 1-2 hours at a time and then need a break. I can do about 3 hours at a time with small breaks. But my suggestion was really to do even a small bit of growing to lighten the negativity about the world somewhat.
lowrads@reddit
I am familiar with it. A great uncle of mine had some acreage dedicated just to vegetables. It was an all day affair for a crew of people several days a week just to manage. Us kids even got trained on farm vehicles, usually trailing behind in a grain cart as soon as we were tall enough to reach the pedals.
Most people can get access to produce without actually having access to land, or the time and knowledge needed to do anything useful with it. That's why I think of pickling jars as the democratization of the post-harvest process. We grew up with stories about the previous generations preserving food using barrels of lard in the days before refrigeration, supply chain networks and economies of scale. Mostly, they just seem harrowing, but those tasks were obviously an improvement on the alternatives.
sherilaugh@reddit
Meanwhile I got home from work Tuesday and a freakish wind storm blew my greenhouse over and all my baby plants died. Stupid climate change. Stupid weather.
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
oh, that would hurt for sure :(
Storms will only get stronger, so it would be good to figure out how to reinforce structures like greenhouses. Building them attached to at least one outside wall of a permanent structure/building is perhaps one way??
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Plants and pets.
otherwisemilk@reddit
Boomers "borrowed" from the future generations using debt. They "borrowed" time and labor from us and expects us to figure it out. They "borrow" our time and energy by diluting the money supply and they call it deficit spending. We let them piss on our leg and tell us it's raining.
After_Resource5224@reddit
I collapsed my life years ago planning for THIS almost exactly.
Now it's "what ebike do I want to buy" and "that would be good to plant in the greenhouse, I've got some seeds." and "those peaches look ready, should I pluck them or give it another day. Shit, I should order some extra mason jars."
Anyone paying attention the last 10 years saw this coming from a mile off. Now I'm just coasting through it. I hedged all my bets that something of this nature would happen, and I'm sitting fine.
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
Me too. I simplified my life in every way, expanded my community, surrounded myself with people who have skills. I live in a tiny home that is easy to heat and cool. I got rid of all debt. I need very little. I saw the shit coming 40 years ago and made decisions then that have made my life so much easier (no car, no kids, living in small spaces, low consumption, etc etc).
fratticus_maximus@reddit
Where do you live that allows you to surround yourself with people who have skills and no car?
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
I live in a small city, population 150000, outside of Toronto, Canada that has a very active food growing/gardening/eco-building/alternative energy community (our main provincial politician represents the Green Party), and I've been here for 3 decades, so I know many people. The city is just the right size that I can walk or take transit to anything I need. Also lots of options for thrifting and getting used goods. Lots of local food options for half the year.
fratticus_maximus@reddit
Wow. That's amazing. I need to get my gf pregnant and force her to give birth in Canada.
sg92i@reddit
This is how I talked my landlord into giving me free reign to plant whatever I want and put in a wood stove "wouldn't it be great if you could heat the place in a power outtage?"
What sucks is until about 30 years ago the town of 4,000 was almost self sufficient in food production because the WW2 generation had built such a large WW2 victory garden and kept it going until their bodies gave out. I've been toying with the idea of sneaking fruit trees & asparagus plants into the "abandoned" parts of the town when no one is looking.
pseudohim@reddit
Guerrilla gardening. Love it.
EdLesliesBarber@reddit
Same, long ago built our nest age and set up the infrastructure we need to weather the storm. More importantly we have real community and have built mutual aid. A little over a decade ago I stopped gnashing and starting working on what I could actually change.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
Because of age, we have to wait and see and will be victims if things come unraveled. If we were younger, we would have already headed for the mountains, far away from cities and begun to learn a new way of living. We did that very thing in our mid-late 70s, and were quite successful. I remember talking to a neighbor (we lived in the Blue Ridge Mtns.) about access to our area by townspeople in a crisis. He said not to worry, they had already checked out areas of the narrow, mountainous roadway for defense. So, many people have already been thinking about such things and the sooner those with some remaining assets can plan and perhaps make that move, the better.
lowrads@reddit
Rural areas are much more resources dependent than the cities.
For millennia, cities have concentrated social surpluses, and made both networking of people and resources vastly easier. As such, they have always been the engines of economies, as well as social change.
fedfuzz1970@reddit
Yes, as long as supply chains remain robust and dependable. Supply chain inputs: diesel fuel, commodities and human labor.
cduga@reddit
I cared enough that I went to school and started researching biofuels and alternative energies. This was the mid-aughts. I thought surely one day the seriousness would catch on and I’d see my field expand and I could consider that we were on a path of progress to fix this mess. When the Midwest was hit with a major drought one year, I thought surely this was it. That year, the conferences I attended were par for the course with only the farmers standing up to explain how dire the situation is. That coupled with shouting matches I’d have with my dad who was very dismissive of not only my efforts but of the problem generally, I gave up. There’s no fixing this. There is only mitigating the worst of it. Do what you can for your own family. When the dust settles after the resource wars, if you’re alive and able join the effort to rebuild.
For now I’m with you. Just got back into mountain biking after years of not doing it and enjoying my local trails while I still can. I like wine. I wonder what movies the Criterion Collection will be releasing next month. There’s really no point just sitting around being stressed about the inevitable.
BoisterousBard@reddit
Everything is Great! Everything is fine! Everything is getting better all of the time! And everybody knows that the president's insane, but nobody wants to talk about what people do when you know that your president's insane... 🎵
https://youtu.be/JhZkPRtc4Go?si=b3Fw6PzNFG8q3o8V
timesuck47@reddit
Thanks for sharing
BoisterousBard@reddit
Of course! Happy to share! I think that it helps to know there are others out there who recognise the insanity of it all.
Wishing you well!
offlinebound@reddit
Going out in public feels so weird now. You can feel the tension. Little things are starting to crumble like more potholes in parking lots because places can't afford to fix them. Things feel more "dirty" even if they aren't. Driving has become "interesting".
Stunning_Pin_3668@reddit
I am. I despise just leaving my house anymore.
forkyspoons@reddit
Yeah it’s traumatizing. I’m in a constant state of shock and trying not to let it affect me but it’s draining my heart and soul. Every day it gets harder to feed and take care of my family and we all work. I want to escape to the desert and just live out my days in the shadow of the Grand Canyon.
lgodsey@reddit
If you don't happen have anxiety about the future, what the fuck is wrong with you?
wiseoldfox@reddit
All the while Trump expects us to have a big birthday party. Don't feel much like partying. Ditto World Cup and the Olympics.
LXDTS@reddit
We NEED a $400 million ballroom that 99% of Americans will never step foot in, paid for by all Americans. How else will the Epstein-Elite stay safe from the peasants while having lavish parties?
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
I'm of the similar opinion and i am not an American. I live in a European country and i don't feel happy. In fact, it is the opposite.
Small-Palpitation310@reddit
Social media ruined everything.
AdKlutzy7336@reddit
I am old enough to remember the Bicentennial in 1976. Despite Vietnam and Watergate, seems like there was more genuine excitement and pride. The Tall Ships in New York, the Stars and Stripes everywhere. A new development near me was built and took the name Constitution Cove with street names like Independence and Declaration. Now everyone seems tired. Trump wants to celebrate just to put his name on everything.
imalostkitty-ox0@reddit
Not just “more excitement,” the 1976 celebrations were EVERYWHERE and represented by every major brand in the country. Hell, even the world’s first steel roller coaster with a loop was named after the bicentennial. The flags were everywhere, people partied in the streets in their hometown.
Vietnam and Watergate were expected to pass, as brief embarrassing interruptions. Instead they became the rules the country lives by.
wiseoldfox@reddit
I lived in Teaneck NJ for the bicentennial. The Tall Ships were awesome. The vibe right now sucks.
pseudohim@reddit
Can't close the beaches, shark be damned. 4th of July is coming up.
KarlMarxButVegan@reddit
I had a 3 years and 9 months long existential crisis starting in 2020 and ending when I finally caught COVID (on a plane where I never took off my kn95). I think I got it out of my system and also my antidepressant is a great fit.
Livid-Rutabaga@reddit
I suspect the numbers are higher, some of us may be in denial, but just as out of control as anybody else. Sometimes I really wish I had a time machine, I'd go back in time and stay there.
TheRealYeastBeast@reddit
I want to go back to a time when I didn't want to go back to any times.
l31l4j4d3@reddit
Same! I’m dying out here. We’re in such a horrible place.
Carbonistheft@reddit
My existential crisis was 2016-2020.
Once I truly accepted that we are fucked, which includes accepting that I am fucked, I regained the ability to enjoy the remainder of the life I have left.
Good luck fellow earthlings.
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
I'm in that "i have accepted that the world is screwed phase" since last weeks and now i am just trying to live my life.
hw999@reddit
people are social creatures. they need to meet, in person, no internet and discuss these things. nothing is going to change so long as we are all seperate and alone.
form a group, meet regularly, invite a new friend every week.
lvluffin@reddit
We all have zoocosis and the zookeepers are pedofile nazi tech gods and the zoo is actively on fire.
Im ready for us to go planet of the apes mode on ourselves tbh
Jovan_Knight005@reddit
In a dream that felt more like a nightmare, a nuclear war had already started and a group of twenty people from Euroasian countries, myself included, have taken off from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan onboard SFA-01 Raven space fighter aircraft and our orders from a Russian colonel was to get away from the billionaire hellscape that the Earth became.
aubreypizza@reddit
Succinctly put!
CyberSmith31337@reddit
I feel this on a core level. It really is the epitome of Don't Look Up; I mean that figuratively and literally.
Nobody I know in my cohort (millennial) is unaware how fucked everything is right now. But you know what; everyone just pushes it deep down, and goes to work. They pretend it isn't as bad as it is, but we all know it is. Nobody wants to talk about it because it's so anger-inducing and depressing, so it's this gigantic obese elephant just sitting in the room with you at all times, like a fucked-up version of the Zoloft cloud except instead of it raining on you, it's the elephant pissing all over the room. Nobody can do anything about it; wealth concentration has become so centralized that no matter what anyone does, the wealthy can just outmuscle any attempt at resistance. Nobody will do anything about it, because we now live in a surveillance state that is so overbearing and powerful that you'll be arrested at the first sign of congregation, possibly deported.
So... what do you do? Do you give up? Do we just roll over and die? Do we march for no reason, like the No King's Protests, where there are no central demands nor any actual expectations for grievance resolution? Do we just expect that we can vote the problems away (we can't) in the mid-terms?
Every day, I think about just selling everything I own, buying a small camper, and heading off to the frontier. I'd probably die, and quickly for that matter at my age. But you know what? I think those odds are actually better than anyone or anything else making a difference in my life. Does it sound exciting to me to have to forage food, mend my own clothes, keep firewood stocked, maintain tools, etc? No, fuck no it doesn't. But at least I'd be doing something for myself, rather than wasting any more of my energy or time on this godforsaken country and society which not only doesn't care about me, but actively hates me. I think about this daily. If I can't have the dream house and a retirement plan that works for me and a government that actually does ANYTHING for the public... then why not roll the dice? I'll die either way, but at least in one scenario, I won't be so god damned miserable.
03263@reddit
Definitely. Going from a high trust to a low trust society too. Nobody helps each other because we don't know who we can trust or who's grifting or straight up malicious. And since we don't trust them it becomes accepted to act with greed and malice in kind.
Legal-Eye-5674@reddit
so many uninformed, misinformed, and oblivious people around me
blissfully ignorant with enough money to live comfortably
I want to scream at the top of my lungs "wake the f#ck up" at least ten times a day
massimo_nyc@reddit
you know i was coping pretty well with this until my dad unexpectedly passed away, im only 26. i’m feeling the crisis full force. been looking for a job for 2 years now. i’m very informed about how AI is progressing and its use cases so I’m using Codex to automate my job search but I’m still not finding anything. I don’t know how people in less privileged places than me are even making it. I’m so fortunate to have a financial cushion but i’m still freaking out as it’s a daily battle for every day expenses to not eat into my savings. i get gigs here and there which are just enough to make it while living with my mom.
whogotthekeys2mybima@reddit
Should explain it
JRSSR@reddit
Uncle Ted was ahead of his time...
whogotthekeys2mybima@reddit
He saw the logic of where it was all going. Unbelievable insight
Commercial-Common515@reddit
Gas is now $4 across the Midwest and all we’re doing is talking about it and I feel like I’m going crazy
Quarks4branes@reddit
Personally, I think that those at the heart of the parasitic class, those who really pull the strings to the extent anyone can, know full well what climate change is doing to the world. And I suspect their climate mitigation strategy is to play the fossil fuel game right to the end, retreat to their bunkers for a few years and let much of humanity die from starvation, lack of access to medications and conflict. With lower population and a temporary collapse of industrialisation, the planet will then begin recovering and they can start again with vastly more real estate available to them and the survivors controlled and surveiled.
So they don't mind that life is now becoming enshittified for the vast majority of us - because they think it's too late for us to effectively change anything. The growing hardness of life keeps us on our individual hamster wheels frantically trying to pay the bills or get ahead. And their control of media ensures we're divided, scapegoating one another, and deeply confused about even the most fundamental tenets of reality.
But I think there's hope. A lot of people I know are questioning everything. They having spiritual awakenings, and/or they're dropping out to move to the country to grow food, or they're banding together and finding new ways to be in the world. From what I'm seeing, that's growing exponentially as people see through the systems that govern and control us, and also see that there's more to life - and to us - than what we've been led to believe.
Conscious_until_1565@reddit
The super rich have doomed us. With the help of the Christian nationalists and MAGA, who are complicit. I feel like at least some things are better elsewhere. I visited Finland last year. It was great. No place is perfect and eventually I guess we’ll all go down, but it SUCKS here now. And it only looks to get worse. Soon.
tfaboo@reddit
Gen Z are at the age where it's normal to have an existential crisis under regular circumstances. Still, that number is HIGH, and things are not regular, not normal. It makes sense. I just get through my day and check out. Love sleeping and thankfully don't have nightmares. I really feel for young people today. I paid $200/month rent in college. I can't imagine how they're facing everything.
evhan55@reddit
I live in the Greater Boston area too and the Boston frenzy is a special kind of hell.
PithyCyborg@reddit (OP)
Good god.
It's just so expensive.
And cold.
😭
Cordially,
Mike D
krill007@reddit
I am in a state of constant panic. I had to get on anti-anxiety meds just to function. Used to be they were for irrational anxiety, not the completely understandable near panic at the state of everything.
marioncrepes@reddit
The first three days of the year felt insurmountable, every month, week, day since even more so. Im so tired of dealing with trials, everything feels pointless, going through motions and struggling every moment of every day to keep it together. It's going to be so ugly once the music stops but I also just want a break
evhan55@reddit
I'm Venezuelan so January 3rd ruined the whole damn year for me. I used to say I was Venezuelan-American. But not anymore.
The3DBanker@reddit
Well, I would say I had a pretty existential crisis over the majority of the past seven years, but since I got permanent resident status in Canada, it's abated considerably. But when I had to leave Canada and return to the US to comply with certain immigration requirements, I was freaking the fuck out.
Brazil_Bound_in_25@reddit
I hear you brother.
I am GenX, so older, but things started going downhill for me mentally a couple of years ago. Initially, it was disbelief that so many folks in the US were either oblivious or purposely put blinders on to focus on things that were not 'hard to think about'.
That turned to frustration with a healthy side of disbelief that even though things were going to shit, the majority of folks were not living in reality.
That turned to anger about what was happening, and why we were doing nothing about it. Started working locally, but I lived in an area where my concerns were NOT the consensus and there was even some hostility in conversations when difficult topics were brought up.
That turned into resignation that the US was absolutely cooked. Even if there were leaders that wanted to improve the situation, the 'status quo/billionaire crowd' would stop at nothing to keep what they have and accelerate the late-stage capitalism that has engulfed the US (and to a somewhat lesser extent, the world).
So I got out with my family. Moved to Brasil. More affordable, wife and daughter are dual citizens, the attitude about the environment and just common sense here is worlds better than the US (a country that many would consider more 'civilized').
Brasil has the largest fresh water reserves in the world, loads of open land, beautiful country. I do worry that in the turbulence that is to come Brasil may be easy pickins for a superpower to get their natural resources as their military, although large, is not at all focused on international affairs, more internal, but that is something that would be down the road a ways.
BUT, all that said, even though I still keep up to date on what is going on up north in Merica, not living there has been a massive improvement to my mental health.
But there are folks everywhere that have the same concerns, they may be silent in public if the environment is hostile, but they are still there, suffering. There are online communities that focus on positive work, as this sub, which I read a LOT, tends to be further towards the 'Doom' side of the spectrum. NOT saying that shit isn't going to get real, but a lot of posts here are just like 'We are going to burn to death in a fiery hell'...hahaha.
Part of the plan is making folks that want meaningful change feel 'alone' as if everyone that had this mindset got together, it would be a major force to be reckoned with. First thing would be to find other like-minded folks online, know that you are not alone. That gives us the confidence to find others and alleviates the misery of feeling isolated.
bipolarearthovershot@reddit
Brasil has more fresh water than the Great Lakes?
Brazil_Bound_in_25@reddit
Brazil has the largest fresh water reserves on earth, the Great Lakes has a ton of fresh water, but some of it is Canada's?
https://bwi.earth/top-10-countries-with-the-most-abundant-freshwater-resources-a-comparative-analysis/
twelve_tony@reddit
I'm in the 32% for sure. I attempted to leave a phd program last year to move to another country with my wife. Then we broke up instead, while we were doing some traveling on the way. (We left in the first place because ex-wife got her job cut by DOGE, so we were working off severance pay and the money from selling all our stuff before the move.) Now I'm basically crawling back to the phd program because working as a TA through that program is the only job I've been able to get other than some substitute teaching. so I'm moving a long ass way back to a place I don't really want to be, where my plan is to live in a van for a while so I can try to pay down the debt I've wracked up while unemployed. And thank fuck I at least have that.
I was staying sane in part because until then I'm in my hometown region (the northwest USA) and I was taking trips out to hike ever other day, but the gas just makes you second guess every plan. At least I have something arranged for the rest of this year but man... I'm depressed. My dissertation is barely written and I honestly don't know if I even have anything. Might literally just do the teaching work while I can and then flunk out, and God only knows what I'll do after that. I've been in some degree of crisis since COVID when I first got disillusioned with my field/dept, but at this point I can honestly say I have no idea what's going on in my life.
CertainKaleidoscope8@reddit
I am tired and I want to die. I have been on antidepressants since 2022. The Palestinian genocide was a dosage increase, Trump deux was a dosage increase, etc. I was on the max dose and weaned myself down in case RFK made it illegal or some shit.
There's personal issues too, I broke my back, got fired, Alex Pretti murdered (I'm a nurse), mom was hospitalized, etc etc. I was holding it together in 2025 with protests and mutual aid groups. I can't do it anymore. I'm not sleeping. I'm not awake. I'm in a nightmare.
Do not under any circumstances do the Reddit cares bullshit with me. I will find you. I will put Barbasol on your car. With eggs. I don't fucking care how much they cost.
cyberphlash@reddit
Honestly, this sounds incredibly stupid. What kind of question is, "Are you having an existential crisis right now?" I would expect a survey of middle school girls would come up with "1/3 are having an existential crisis". What does that even mean? And how are 2,000 random survey respondants equipped to self-diagnose what an "existential crisis" is?
I can get behind factual findings like people think things are unaffordable or whatever, but this sort of 'existential crisis' question is just trolling us all with stupid statements... SMH
jez_shreds_hard@reddit
I really wish we could get more people to channel this into political action. We've been trying to organize a general strike for years and hardly anyone is willing to do so. Yes, we don't have safety nets and healthcare. I fucking get it. It's by design. You want to change that, though? Well, then you have to be willing to take a risk. We should be doing general strikes until they agree to give us taxpayer funded healthcare. Instead, most people think if they elect Democrats in the midterms everything is going to be better. Absolutely vote and the democrats are a a thousand times better than the other option. They are not going to fundamentally do anything to address healthcare and the lack of social safety nets, though. I guess we have to wait until most people are facing starvation before we'll see any meaningful civil disobedience.
A313-Isoke@reddit
At that point, it will be too late. Our one bargaining chip before AI takes our jobs is withholding labor. If we aren't working, then what?
jez_shreds_hard@reddit
I hear that. I think AI growth might hit energy and water resource constraints, limiting it's impact on jobs. We shall see.
A313-Isoke@reddit
Also, components will age by the time the data center wilk be built. Rare earth minerals also have a finite amount.
Andrusela@reddit
Just one in three?
Seems low to me.
Currently hunkering down and trying to distract from existential crisis by doomscrolling.
whereismysideoffun@reddit
Link to study?
honeymustard_dog@reddit
My husband and I combined make approx 400k gross (in new england). I own a shitty minivan with 170k miles on it, he has a palisade which is nice but also around 150k miles. We live in an average house built in the 70s. We have 2 kids. We are NOT living extravagantly by any means. I wear shoes until they have holes in them, my most expensive bag is like $100. We have a few pieces of sporting equipment like bikes...but no atv/boat/moyorcycle....we dont even own a riding lawnmower (just a push mower.)
We are fine financially, but im shocked at hpw hard it is to save or get ahead. We refuse to go onto debt to fund a lifestyle, but me from 20 years ago would have thought this kind of money would buy us a mansion. I'm stressing about putting a new roof on the house for 25k.
I dont know how people making less than 100k function in this society, its sick. Healthcare alone is like 20% of our salary. Childcare runs approx 4k/mo when kids are in daycare.
Like how are people supposed to live and save for the future if even the "high earners" are living this way??
psynautic@reddit
what?
honeymustard_dog@reddit
That came off a bit randy. My point was that even people that are making very good income, or what seems like good income, its still basically middle class living at best. Op points out an affordability crisis and I'm trying to validate that point. If we feel it, then those earning 100k or less must be in Crisis mode. I don't know how the country can continue to function like this
psynautic@reddit
i agree with people making lower incomes are in extreme distress right now; my 'what' is that it seems entirely inconceivable to me that you guys are making 400k and not getting ahead. we live in the nyc metro area and sound like we're getting by better than you with much less. i cannot fathom where your money is going.
honeymustard_dog@reddit
We are getting by fine, but we arent living extravagantly. Thats also gross pay. I'm self employed so I pay 2x tax as employer and employee which is part of it, we paid over 100k in taxes/ssi last year. Property tax on top another 13k. Childcare 4k/mo. Freaking kids sports....one season of soccer is 550 per kid, just a regular town team. Mortgage. Health insurance is 2500/mo. Braces not covered...6k this year. Phones, car insurance, food, all the stuff.
We have money in savings, we are putting money into 401k, sep ira, and 529s. We are not hurting at all but I definitely dont feel like we are frivolous in any way. We eat out once a week, nothing fancy. We do one "big vacation" a year, approx 10k. I donate whenever I can, probably another 10k year ish.
It just all adds up over time. Like I said, we are saving but it's like, if you take that away living is expensive.
CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit
I think kids must be far more expensive than I thought.
I am so glad I didn't have them, I am one of those low income stress bags you are talking about, and I can't fathom it either. That poor certainly doesn't look like my poor- I bet they get plenty of fresh fruit and veg.
BusIndividual5407@reddit
I eat existential crises for breakfast.
Total_Examination297@reddit
I eat pieces of shit
filmguy36@reddit
I eat the shit existential crisis poop out
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
I've been in a prolonged existential crisis since my mid-20's. There's no shared struggle, nothing works for the little people, we're all just cogs in a vast, unfeeling machine, on a ball of water and rock spinning through the cosmos. We're all future ghosts. Once that seeps into someone's consciousness, the solution seems to be either hedonism, some kind of modern Asceticism or something more final.
defianceofone@reddit
Unbelievable because Americans are doing jackshit about it.
jmnugent@reddit
A lot of us have jobs and daily-responsibilities. What exactly would you like us to do ?.. throw away our entire lives and end up homeless because we choose to go to some weeks-long protest ?.. What should parents with kids do ?.. What should Doctors or Ambulance Drivers or other critical workers do ?
What percentage of the population do you think has enough free time to just go "protest full time" .. ?.. because I'm guessing it's pretty low.
CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit
Plus, our healthcare, and spouses/kids as well, is tied to our employment.
pm_me_fibonaccis@reddit
There is only one thing we haven't tried yet.
lowrads@reddit
Americans aren't necessarily party to any long term solution for humanity's persistence on this planet.
Substantial-Art2015@reddit
Having been raised to be socio-politically aware, I am gutted by the inertia I am witnessing. It is heartbreaking and soul-crushing.
helloworlditisme261@reddit
It’s cause our society is shifting. For the average individual getting by and paying bills, getting a job, etc. being able to just afford to live is getting more and more impossible unless you come from wealth.
Creepy_Valuable6223@reddit
I have a neighbor who is a younger boomer who told me that she doesn't want to hear about anything bad because she thinks that having such thoughts causes the bad things to happen. Including, for instance, war and pestilence and high gas prices. She is very politically liberal, so no, she is not MAGA.
She is not otherwise insane and is pleasant, and she and I have to get along for purposes of our mutual households' survival, but it sure limits conversation. Nice weather today, lol.
Thick-Ad5738@reddit
It is a coping mechanism.
Creepy_Valuable6223@reddit
Yes, she is trying to survive. But it does lead her to lack very basic information about what is going on.
Udder1991@reddit
Im just glad I have so many people i can trauma bond with.
Barjuden@reddit
I think this is just what humans do man. A corrupt system where the elites take so much that most people can't afford to survive. The system breaks down, there's a revolution that overthrows the elites, and a more fair system is put into place. But over time, as new generations forget what caused the last revolution, the corruption seeps in and the new elites take more and more until it breaks down again. Rinse and repeat. The big difference this time is we're taking down the biosphere with us at the same time AI is coming in to replace human labor, so...yeah man it's no wonder so many people are feeling this way.
Logridos@reddit
Yeah but now the corrupt fucks have enough nukes to destroy the world ten times over.
okiepilgrim@reddit
At least the billionaires die or live out a sad meaningless existence in that scenario.
F-Cloud@reddit
I've been enduring a worsening existential crisis since Trump got re-elected. It seems certain now that my future will be poverty, persecution, poor health, and an early death. I literally do not expect to survive the changes happening to this country. The destruction of the social safety net will doom countless American lives like mine. Our rights, our freedoms, and our entire futures are at stake. It's impossible to relax under these conditions. Life for me has devolved into chronic stress and rage at the daily injustices taking place.
I'm GenX in my 50s, disabled, a target for the regime, and soon to lose the support that has kept me alive this long. The only friends I've got have either moved out of the country or are in as dire straits as I am. I don't know how I'm going to survive or if it's even worth trying. It's an existential crisis alright.
lallapalalable@reddit
Couple years ago I entered a state of hedonistic abandon. Enjoy what's still here to its fullest until it's not. Live for the moment, myself, and those I care about. Prepare as best I can for the future without stressing about how it can be fixed, because it can't and even if it could Im not in a position to be the one that does it.
infrontofmyslad@reddit
I thought this was going to be about existential crises, as in life, death, consciousness. Honestly i have had more candid conversations in general lately
diagnosedADHD@reddit
I have a decent job, an actual savings, etc, but I feel so incredibly lost and overwhelmed most of the time. And that makes me feel guilty, cause a lot of people are suffering right now.
I think part of it for me is I'm just exhausted with the pace of life. You need a car, a house, credit scores, insurance, etc etc etc.
I can't be bothered to hustle, I want for nothing and I'm not embarrassed to admit that. I want to live my life in a small cottage in a neighborhood with my closest friends and family and just explore.
H0pelessGuy@reddit
I should go out and self-immolate in front of an important building. It won't do much, but it'll send a message.
shewholaughslasts@reddit
Well they didn't survey me! I wonder who they did survey and the methods they used.
If they call my phone and I don't know the number I ain't answering.
LIB_Laugh_Luv@reddit
And sadly, on the flip side, there are A LOT of absolute, medically moronic people in this country who think they're doing great and are blind to the fire engulfing their house.
totalwarwiser@reddit
Been there. I was a late blooming teen which took a long time to figure out what I wanted to do and start work, and the time when you cant figure out how your future is going to unfold is scary.
Living inside capitalism is scary because if you dont join the train and get money you eventually become homeless and eventually you fall prone to drug use or you simply die and no one gives a fuck.
Nowaday people cant see a future where they have a job to pay the bills, and some who want kids (which may be the biggest dream they have) may not see a way how. Not to mention homes.
In the past you could join some sort of group and move somewhere else with a set of tools and build a new life through the work of your hands and tenacity. Millions of europeans did it. Nowadays the whole fucking world is owned by someone.
Here in Brazil and most developing countries the economy is never stable so its common for people to live in family clusters and many households survive on a single income.
Americans are used to freedom and their whole personality is based on money and independence so there will be a need for a cultural shift and adaptability. Or a revolution.
There_Are_No_Gods@reddit
...and the other two are also experiencing an existential crisis, but are just blissfully or willfully unaware so far of what they're actually going through.
X7_Shar@reddit
I sit. In my desolate room.
JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit
Losing hope for ever having some kind of comfortable/stable life more each day. Wondering at what point I just say fuck it, and throw everything away to start acting against the forces that be. Only thing holding me back now is my partner and cats.
saint-delys@reddit
I went through this when I was much younger than I am now for not completely unrelated reasons. Once I made my peace with everything, you develop a 6th and 7th sense for the people also going through it.
I would imagine the "lost child" feeling that so many people have that I've been picking up on would be related to that.
possiblecurb@reddit
I ended up myself in a trailer for 2 years figuring out if I was brave or stupid for trying to survive the world. I made it through the beginning of all this shit, I'll at least spitefully try to make someone's day better.
MrBeekers@reddit
I’m having a pretty rough time lately fellas. Hope yall are taking care of yourself.
AnxiousSeason@reddit
RTO put me in my existential crisis.
Hglucky13@reddit
TIL I’m 1 in 3 Americans. 😂😅😐😢
SidKafizz@reddit
I'm pretty sure that I still exist, but I'm also pretty sure that modern technological civilization is in for a very, very rough ride in the coming years. As my parents chose the time to bring me into this world very poorly, I get to experience this rough ride in my rapidly declining years.
So, I'm just going to try to enjoy what remains of my life in the best manner that I can, before teeming masses of poor people (on one end) and a small number of supremely greedy jackasses (on the other) tear the biosphere apart.
No crisis. Just playing out the string.
NyriasNeo@reddit
"37% of Americans say their entire life feels out of their control right now. I'm honestly surprised it isn't higher."
It is not surprising. The economy is k-shaped. There is no existential crisis if you are well-to-do.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/upper-middle-class-income-us-what-it-takes/
"The U.S. middle class is shrinking, but not because more Americans are poorer. Instead, more households are climbing into the echelons of the upper middle class due to income gains in recent decades, according to research from the nonpartisan American Enterprise Institute. About 31% of U.S. households earn enough to be considered upper middle class"
So at least 31% is just doing fine, and enjoying life.
gay_little_spider@reddit
I spent most of 2025 in severe personal / mental health / financial / etc crisis. Called the hotline enough times to recognize operators by the sounds of their voices.Two very fortunate things happened- I stumbled across an ayahuasca retreat in the city where I was staying, and I redidicated myself to the Buddhist path. Things aren't perfect now, but they are better. My life has direction again. Yes, the planet is dying, but even if it wasn't, most people would still be unhappy. Old age, sickness, and death stalk us from the moment we are born. I do what I can to care for myself and the planet, but I'm also preparing myself to let go with grace when those things fall apart.
FruitSilent1169@reddit
Honestly, I was just wondering about what's going on with the world this morning. Super El Nino, the war in Iran, my bills. I think one-in-three number feels way too low. It seems like most people are in denial and just putting on a brave face while quietly wondering how much longer we can actually keep this up.
KarmaAdjuster@reddit
I've practically given up on Americans saving themselves. I left the US 7 years ago and haven't regretted it for a minute. I now have dual citizenship, and am considering abandoning my US citizenship (if only to get out of filing taxes every year), but for now I'm still voting, and urging my contacts back home to resist.
Tomorrow's general strike will be very telling about how much the general public values their well being. My expectations are pretty low though. Nothing I've seen in the past 20 years has swayed me from my perspective of Americans being too damned comfortable to do any sort of meaningful protest. As long as they aren't the ones getting shot in the back or the face and they still have their Starbucks, streaming services, and access to Tiktok, they going to keep voluntarily putting their neck under the boots of the billionaires and just accept their own toxic work ethic as just the way things are.
I've already given up on humanity at large though. I refuse to burn myself out shouting about the end of the world as we know it to a global population that has no sense of urgency regarding the impending climate collapse. Instead, I'm just trying to enjoy the remaining years I have on this rock, and do my best not to make it worse for others. I'm certainly not aiming to bring another life into the apocalypse. That seems unfair to them as well as just a bad idea in general for myself no matter how good I am with kids.
Mentally, I'm trying to get to the state of mind in one of the final scenes in Don't Look Up, where they were gathered around the dining table, enjoying each other's company until the end of the world. We all eventually die. It's up to us how we live our lives. I've quit my job to start my own company and sleeping in as much as I want, while building my own dreams instead of someone else's. I regularly invite friends over to enjoy time with them, and I've almost got enough saved away to make it to retirement, but I suspect I have just enough to make it to the apocalypse.
I could be better about spending less time online though, and on that note, I'm going to head outside to run an errand.
Redbell57@reddit
I feel this. Looking around at everybody going about their day just totally unconcerned that the entire foundation of our unsustainable American lifestyle is teetering on the brink of *something* is a lonely place to be. You feel like talking to others about it, only to get shut down because they don't believe tomorrow might be not be like yesterday. Or worse, they pat you on the head and pretend like something will come along shortly to get us out of this pickle (environmental, economic, ideological, societal, institutional you name it).
Tomorrow is a general strike day (May 1). Those of us who are experiencing crisis need to show up (or in this case, not show up) and make it obvious that we're not ok.
Reasonable-Ad7115@reddit
since 2019
Slipsonic@reddit
I've started looking at it with a different perspective. We're living through history that will be talked about and studied for 500 years if civilization survives climate change. I think it's undeniable at this point that current events are a major turning point on par with ww1, great depression, and ww2. The names Trump Netanyahu, and Putin will be remembered with the worst rulers in history, for a very long time. The atrocities are as bad as the Warsaw ghetto.
I've just been watching, and remembering, and trying to prepare and help where I can.
SteveSewall1749@reddit
hmm. Broken link to the survey at Study Finds.
SteveSewall1749@reddit
This link seems to link me to the survey https://talkerresearch.com/stressful-tops-americans-word-for-2026/
kokujinzeta@reddit
I bought and fixed up an old mountainbike. I ride it a lot. That kinda helps.
nickiter@reddit
It's nice to have company, I guess.
moocat55@reddit
Inevitable-Bird-6697@reddit
Honestly I think things are already beyond fucked at this point. I honestly don't even want to imagine what's in store for me once I'm old as a 20s Gen Z if I get to live that long that is.
SnarkOff@reddit
And honestly? Write your own reddit posts.
roytay@reddit
I cycle back and forth between worrying about American Fascism and Climate Change. Occasionally a little "how will my daughter afford to live" slips in.
On a lighter note: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ariyF2URnQ0
El_Morro@reddit
I've been on a long, gradual decline since Trump stacked the Supreme Court. Not nearly enough people realize just how bad our situation is, but they're gradually realizing something really, REALLY bad is going when they started handing down their decisions.
Until that point, I had faith in this country. I figured we've been through worse, but we figured it out over time. But not anymore. The Supreme Court (and our justice system) was really the last chance we had to salvage this American experiment. And now it's all gone, thanks to social media, years of FOX news, and deep-seated misogyny.
I just wish I lived in the universe where Gore didn't concede the election and Newt Gingritch was never born.
Antique-Mouse-4209@reddit
I suspect I'm not the only person who isn't alone by definition (I have a wife) but has been alone for a long while on seeing where we are heading. That's why I found this place. My wife would sometimes listen to my rants about the environment (and I do believe it's Mother Earth who will have the final say) and say things like "I know it's bad but it's not that bad" but only admitted to me in the last month that she now agrees that the wealthy elite are stripping everything for parts because they see the writing on the wall. My point being you're here so you're not alone and we feel you.
brickout@reddit
GenX/Geriatric millenial here. Yup. I've been having them in waves for a long time, but it's been really bad since the last US Presidential election. I have been barely hanging on, and sometimes not really even doing that.
I've been lucky to have been living alone for a lot of this experience as I don't want to be seen. My parents just moved in with me temporarily and I'm actually concerned about how to survive this. They know a lot of what I think and feel but not the depths. They listen, but are still planning on business as usual in the future. They think I'm kind of nuts for trying to prepare for a disruption.
And almost nobody that I know elsewhere even talks about this stuff or is even slightly aware of what's going on outside their bubble.
NotWifeMaterial@reddit
when the guy stormed the WHCD and his manifesto was quoted I was just said to myself “same bro same”
this shit is bananas B A N A N A S
sevenoutdb@reddit
I'm here too. I'm on the tail end of Gen X, and my career has collapsed, my income went down 50% and I'll be unemployed starting tomorrow. I sold my liquid assets last year to survive, and I'll have to sell retirement assets to live off of until I get another job. I'm casting a wide net and being realistic about my potential salary / jobs but it doesn't look good. I feel invisible and irrelevant in 2026.
itaniumonline@reddit
Same
thebatmanbeynd@reddit
I relate. Same.
Conscious-War5920@reddit
I believe it. All my friends simply change the subject now when it comes to the geopolitics of everything going on and have turned to coping with hobbies or spending money, its kinda sad out there.
The_World_Is_A_Slum@reddit
We’ve come to the realization that the America we grew up in is over, and have changed our expectations. It has been difficult, to say the least, but we’ve managed to keep our core possessions, pay off our debts and find ways to enjoy our lives.
The loss of hope for the future has continued to be extremely painful.
capt_fantastic@reddit
neoliberalism was predicted to lead to populism which in turn leads to authoritarianism. we're entering the second of those -ism's right now. i don't really have anything to add other than to disconnect and disavow from society, or leave for greener pastures.
deadblankspacehole@reddit
It's not scientific but half of the electorate voted for their god and they got their god in charge. That's a third of the American public who are deliriously and outrageously happy with how cheap their lives are and how they have their orange jesus in charge, the next third didn't vote and haven't noticed anything different happening because "I'm alright jack" and the final third are democrat voters absolutely shocked at the state of their fellow American
wake4coffee@reddit
Count 2,001, this is me every week. It’s an interesting roller coaster of emotions.
SpookyDooDo@reddit
I’ve already had the crisis and moved past it too. Moved my family out of Texas, made my husband get a job at a fusion energy startup, now I’m making sure my kids know how to read, and I’m planting a bunch of fruit trees and berry bushes this year. It’s been a lot of work but I feel better about where we are now vs three years ago.
feeder4@reddit
You are 100% not alone and should keep trying to find people to talk to. Situation is crazy and disheartening. Hope you can find a path forward.
HardNut420@reddit
the end of America will be here soon I hope
Mostest_Importantest@reddit
Time for everyone to freak the fuck out.
Just like last year.
Venus by last century.
Planet Earth is Hell.