Would you retire on £400 a week if you had no bills except utilities?
Posted by RS_Phil@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 258 comments
Just a bit of fun really and a thought exercise:
If you were able to guarantee £400 a week income forever which adjusts for inflation so we're not worried about that, would you retire now at whatever your age is (please specify if you like)?
For this experiment let's say you have:
- No debt
- No car or need for one
- No rent or mortgage
- No children / dependents
- You DO HAVE utility and other standard bills only - gas, electric, water, council tax, house insurance, internet.
- Food to consider
I guess it might vary somewhat by region, but not that much I'd imagine if rent/mortgage isn't applicable.
Personally, this more than meets my needs so I'd probably go for it if I were fed up of working, though I'd be a bit worried about being too idle.
What about you? 😄
Odd-Accident-3287@reddit
Yes definitely that would be more than a enough
Louis010@reddit
Yes, that’s more than I earn from employment minus the mortgage anyway so it’s a no brainer
Brevard1986@reddit
gas, electric, water, council tax, house insurance, internet, and mobile (let's say, SIM only deal like £10 a month). Also, household goods like loo roll etc Food to consider
If just me, no dependant (my wife and kid) and roughly living in the same area (edge of London) let's see what that would look like:
So around £1700 a month.
Council Tax: £160 Electricity & Gas (reduced): £130-£150 Water:£55 Home Insurance: £30-£40 Internet: £20-£30 Mobile £10-£15 Food & Household: £350 - £450
£900 cost leaving minimum £800 spending
Sure, I could retire by my self but inflation and cost of living rises will reduce that £800 as I get older so it won't be a great retirement (unless the £400 a week is increased in line with inflation as well).
But I'd rather keep my current life (wife and kids, dual income and quite a bit more than £800 spending money after expenses).
mjr511@reddit
I think I'd go for that, yes.
smedsterwho@reddit
I've gone from a pessimist over universal income to an advocate for it, especially as AI begins to suck up jobs.
If it's set at a rate that doesn't give you instant luxury, but let's you survive, it's a good way to go.
The issue really will be ripples in society. E.g. if everyone got £400 a week, you'd need to stop landlords saying "Oh, rent has gone up £100 a week".
Back to the OP, yes I'd leap on it, although I have another decade of killing off a mortgage first.
Lanky-Amphibian1554@reddit
This is absolutely right.
If everyone got £400 a week, rents would go up to £405 a week.
m-mewchu@reddit
I'm in my late twenties and I make £375 a week (after taxes) working full-time at "living wage". I work 9-5, have a cheap single room, no car, no holidays, no pets/kids, don't drink alcohol or smoke or get my nails done or do anything expensive.
...and because I still have to pay bills & rent, I have very little money/time/energy left to do anything.
So... yes. Yes I would retire making more money than I do right now working full-time.
Wart_Time_L32@reddit
£1600 a month, yes. How do I sign up?
JuniorChubb@reddit
Yup, makes me wonder what some people need to live on if they think this is a question to ponder.
DigitalStefan@reddit
Council tax £233 Heating oil £100 (before the recent issues, which if they continue will have to increase to £200) Water £60 Electric £130 Home insurance £28
That’s £621 potentially just to keep a roof over our head.
Grass needs mowing: £80/month
Pets need insuring: £134
Am I surviving without internet? £50
And a phone? £20
Groceries? £300
We’re up to £1,205.
Haven’t included pet food in there. Guess we’re probably not going to have pets then if we wanted to try to retire on £400 per week.
Stuff gets expensive really quickly unless you reduce your quality of life significantly.
This is why I’m currently putting nearly £900/ month into a pension (quite late in life) and will be increasing it to over £1k soon. I don’t want to survive, I want to be comfortable after working for all my life.
TachiH@reddit
You need to stop mowing your grass and get a goat 🤣 £80 worth of mowing monthly means you have a lot of land with your house.
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
You've still got about £500 left for pet food. That's more than you're spending on yourself.
DigitalStefan@reddit
And I sit in the house all day doing nothing?
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
What pet have you got? A horse?!
DigitalStefan@reddit
3 cats on the top level of cover with the most expensive insurer
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
So it's not that you can't have any pets. It's that there's a financial limit to how many you can have. This isn't really news.
DigitalStefan@reddit
Sure I’ll just get rid of one or two of the cats. No biggie.
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
Not what I said. I just don't think it's very relatable do disregard £600 of discretionary spend so easily.
Chillistarr@reddit
Never mind "if they continue", cost of CHO passed double what it was before within the first few weeks of this latest mess...
DigitalStefan@reddit
And it may go back down before we need to fill the tank up again. We’ve got 3+ months supplement in the tank.
donalmacc@reddit
You pay £1000 a year for your grass to be cut???
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
My gardener takes 45 an hour and comes every 2 weeks.
CwrwCymru@reddit
Sounds daft at first glance but if you're physically incapbable as you age then it needs to be a consideration in your retirement budget.
£80 is a lot for grass (robomower) but then also consider wider gardening, cleaners, care, handyman jobs. Being old can be expensive in certain ways (and cheaper in others).
donalmacc@reddit
Nah £80/mo is mental. That’s 2 hours a week from April to October of a gardener at £40/hr. That’s central Edinburgh personal gardener prices not cut my grass prices.
DigitalStefan@reddit
Yes. During the summer it’s multiple visits. The cost of living crisis is hitting people with lower incomes hardest. I’m not about to be a miserly git when I’m paying someone to do something I hate doing (and often have not been able to do).
donalmacc@reddit
You can get a gardenere to look after your garden for 2 hours a week, 6 months a year in central Edinburgh for that. If you've got a big garden the payback time on a top of the range robot lawn mower, including a professional install is less than a year.
DigitalStefan@reddit
I am not going to replace a human with a robot.
berkleysquare@reddit
You're quoting monthly bills and why can't you mow the grass yourself?
Fattydog@reddit
Some people as disabled. Some are elderly and frail. How did these explanations escape you?
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
This seems to be with a big house though or you don’t shop around (which you would have plenty time to do if unemployed)? My gas/electric combined is £50, my water £20 and internet £20.
£400 a week (after rent/mortgage) is about what I had on a 60k salary!!! The uk average is around 35k
DigitalStefan@reddit
It’s a 4-bed detached 20 years old house. Our electric is about 30% less than what it would be if we were on a standard tariff.
Heating oil should go back down to £100 if current events resolve.
My internet is actually £85 now because of various reasons and I’m happy paying it, but would drop down a tier or two to save money if needed.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Look at what some people state they need min to retire - £MILLIONS is common :D
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
£1m would probably net you around £40k for life. That's without adding State Pension. If you need millions to retire, you have an expensive lifestyle.
tevs__@reddit
Safe Withdrawal Rates are a model predicting how much you can draw from funds without depleting it in N years. 4% is a totally valid SWR for retiring at 65, but it's not for retiring at 20 - more like below 3%.
You can buy guaranteed income, they're called annuities. For someone aged 65, £1m could get you an inflation linked annual income of £48k a year. For someone aged 55, it will buy you an annual income of £37k. 20 year olds don't regularly buy annuities, so I can't get a quote for that, but it would be significantly less, around 15k/year.
If you want to retire early, and not be frugal in retirement, you need a big starting point.
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
Who's talking about retiring at 20?!
KarmaIssues@reddit
Millions is in net worth. The idea is that based kn previous market returns, taking 4% out of the account per year will last 30 years.
So you would need whatever your expenses are x25.
CandidLiterature@reddit
I mean maybe look up what an annuity paying £400 a week inflation linked for the rest of your life would cost. It is millions… Plus whatever lump sum you’d need to clear your mortgage.
JuniorChubb@reddit
DM me if you find their millions, participating in your thread warrant a share ;-)
Popular-Custard8519@reddit
You need to keep in mind though that million is to last however long you have left. Say you want to retire at 50 (for our parents generation living to 100 isn’t out of the question) a million would only last a shade over 16yrs at my current salary.
Optimal_Fee8833@reddit
It's barely minimum wage
Ok-Cake9431@reddit
Yeah but minimum wage has to cover your bills
Fattydog@reddit
This is not covering bills. It’s covering housing though.
adamneigeroc@reddit
Which is most people’s biggest bill.
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
It’s equivalent to around a 60k salary though if you aren’t paying rent or mortgage!
JuniorChubb@reddit
Yes, but without the outgoings listed I don't think comparing it to a wage holds. I/we end up with less a month after all the listed outgoings so would be happy with that...
I could just be typing from a similar blinkered view I accuse OP of though.
doctorgibson@reddit
News flash, some people have higher expenses than other people
Charlie_Yu@reddit
If you retire you may spend more to reward for your hard work, also you have more time to spend on stupid things. And inflation is a thing, who knows what prices would be in 10 years
TheFlyingScotsman60@reddit
There will be tax to pay on 1600 a month so call it 17200 roughly.
TerpzArmy@reddit
It’s £1733pm.
dontstealmeagain@reddit
That's as much as I earn a week at a full-time 40 hour a week IT corporate job. Fuck yeah. I'd have retired years ago.
I can't fathom all the people saying they'd be bored. Find a hobby, turn it into a small business and make extra cash from it. Go do content creation if you're too lazy for a business. Or given it says, retirement, just go travel! Really not expensive if you're not based in the USA or Aus, especially with no costs other than utils. Atp I'd stop renting and go live in a van and travel Europe for a bit then truly no utilities except food and petrol. Or even just go finish all those video games you've been meaning to play, spend time with your loved ones, collect something cool.
There is ENDLESS possibilities with freedom and alternative ways to earn extra cash to fuel your dreams if that's permitted in this scenario, why do people act like there's none? Madness.
It might get boring in like 10 years but that's fine by me. Boredom over poorly paid slavery.
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
You're earning minimum wage.
Extension-Topic2486@reddit
It’s Reddit, I knew the comments would be people fighting over who gets paid the least.
slb609@reddit
You're underpaid.
dontstealmeagain@reddit
I'm aware but that seems to be a common theme in this country. That's about the best I can get in my area for my career that won't end up costing me a fortune in travel
edge2528@reddit
How old are you? Utility could be £400 a week ten years from now.
boringPedals@reddit
That's more than I earn now after tax and housing has been deducted. So for me the question is would I retire on an inflation adjusted income which is more than what I make now.
Yes I would
KochInYaMouth@reddit
I could live on £1000 a month comfortably. Though savings are essential I would say at least one years full pay equivalent as a minimum. I would never have or want a new car. Where Iive over the coming decades I would have the option to walk into town, use a taxi for shopping and in the future use a mobility scooter for longer journeys or take the bus.
At 67 I would have £2000 per month.
With the two of retired before state pension we will likely have double that. So we would actually have a very nice income.
Now comfortable living is BS to keep you working until you die. It is pure fear mongering by the right wing press. An example is having to take holidays during school holidays, you get rinsed. What a holiday off season you can go abroad for a tiny fraction of the school holiday cost. We have worked out we would be able to go on 4 holidays a year easily. I even saw a 2 week vacation full board for £250 pp the other day. Take your food costs off of that for two weeks and its even cheaper.
I personally have known in the past 3 years 2 people who died less than a year after retiring.
I have know a fair few others who have died way before retirement.
I have had experience of having a couple of years off with bills paid. I can not overstate enough how amazing it was just to do the things you want without having to work. I also have been semi retired for most of my 30s through to my 50s working low hours and having a lot of time off per year. It was amazing and I never felt I missed out on not having more income.
It is only the past 4 years I have worked more hours still with 13 weeks off per year.
What I will say is that material possessions do not have the same worth as having time off.
Going to a charity show and seeing all the crap people spent large sums of money on that is now worth a tiny fraction of what they paid really enforces this view.
-Xserco-@reddit
Yes?
Paying 400 for your house per month till ownership. 200 on food. The rest is free game?
The only obstacles is the government egging on wars and inflation.
Rockky67@reddit
Like a shot. After all my bills except utilities I have about £250 a week currently. It is going to get better, wage rises at least in line with inflation, loan will be paid off in a few years, mortgage paid off in 15 years and about £300 a month is going into my pension. But, £400 a week plus inflation matching without having to pay anything except utilities is easy to live on if you’re already frugal.
No-Snow-9605@reddit
£400 a week = £20800 so would not be tax free.
£20800 is more than I am receiving in retirement,and I do have all these bills to pay.
clrthrn@reddit
If it was annually adjusted for inflation then absolutely. But if not then probably no. £400 a week won’t be worth £400 in 2027 so over a lifetime, it’s slowly declining income. Someone over 50 should consider doing it but anyone under that would need it to be increased eventually.
Tru72@reddit
Severly disabled since birth and on full benefits. I don't get anywhere near that, so yes 👌
Othersideofthemirror@reddit
30 years ago 400 a month would have been fine.
If you said yes you'd be hungry right now
Jesterstear99@reddit
I've been retired on less than that for years.
It is easy if you don't pay rent/mortgage.
Wububadoo@reddit
I'd feel rich with that much, unfortunately.
RiskItForAChocHobnob@reddit
£1733 per month.
That's more than I currently have left over after paying the mortgage, so yes.
Eskoala@reddit
Same, this would be more spare cash than I currently have after the mortgage, with the bonus that I suddenly also don't have to pay anything for my child apparently!
Buddy-Matt@reddit
£70 more than your take home if you're on NMW...
£400 tax free and your only bills are utilities and food? Sorted.
lankymjc@reddit
That’s more than my current salary!
Don’t stay in school, the pay sucks.
messymedia@reddit
That's what I have before the rent goes out...
BabyAlibi@reddit
That's more than my full time monthly pay 👀
TakeItCheesy@reddit
That’s more than I get paid and I work full time fuck meeee
cold_tap_hot_brew@reddit
All the stipulations that imply obviously this is such a silly idea…. Meanwhile the cost of living crisis has us wondering if we’ll have anything left over at all after paying just to exist in society.
Ok-Blackberry-3534@reddit
If you're just paying food and utilities that seems fairly comfortable.
cold_tap_hot_brew@reddit
Especially without dependants.
AutomaticInitiative@reddit
Same except rent. Quite a lot more actually.
Veenkoira00@reddit
Why ever not ?!
Supes1975@reddit
That’s more than I earn now so yes absolutely.
Super-Craig@reddit
I'm in Bioengineering (Agricultural sector) for an R&D Biotech company. I have zero plans to retire, and fully intend to continue working, researching, and discovering, up until I draw my last terminal breathe. Which given I started working for the company at 15 and I'm now 37. With the average retirement age which had increased from 89 to 92 in 2022, which has now risen again to 95 based on a late 2025 internal study of the companies bio sector... Means It's going to be awhile.
Wandering_ENTJ@reddit
It must be nice to be a scientist. To be so deeply enamoured into your work that you have no intentions to retire, and will continue your research up until you draw your last terminal breathe.
Super-Craig@reddit
I'm not a scientist.
Scientists are called scientists because they apply the 'Scientific Method' and share their findings with the rest of humanity.
Contrast to that, I never pursue anything that isn't profitable. I follow my gut and pursue wild hunches. Anything and everything that I learn or discover is submitted for patent review and then never leaves the company.
There is no profit in cures; A cured patient is a lost customer.
There are literally 100's of cures for Illnesses and diseases languishing in patent review hell. The most prominent of which are being reverse engineered by our best and brightest into long term treatments that can't be counter reverse engineered. In fact, anti-reverse engineering is the area where most of the companies energy and resources is invested.
JessShieldMaiden@reddit
No. I like travelling/ holidays too much.
Cirias@reddit
I'd be worse off so probably not lol
TwoValuable@reddit
I think it's easily doable but my partner thinks £1600 is not a lot when you factor in house maintenance costs.
But if he and the baby weren't around and assuming I had no debt or no savings. The household and my personal bills are about £700 a month. I could easily live off of £900 a month, I'd probably even be able to keep my current car and just look after it, plus saving some to build up a new car fund/Christmas pot/holiday fund/generic savings. In this scenario as well I'd probably look at downsizing into something more suited to a single person on a fixed income which would save me money. I wouldn't miss working but I'd definitely need to get a few more community based activities to not end up a complete social recluse that the children call the witches house.
I think the retirement living standards are absolutely bonkers, the gap between minimum and moderate is huge and a lot of people don't even earn £31K at the moment let alone for retirement.
Responsible-Ad-1086@reddit
Yes without a doubt
Last-University-4779@reddit
absolutely not, £1733 after bills wouldn't be enough to retire comfortably imo even with no mortgage.
bishibashi@reddit
No, my pension’s already worth more than that and I’ve got at least 10 more years paying in with any luck.
Any-Reading-8009@reddit
But you lose the best 10 year period you have left slogging away, surely better to go enjoy life
bishibashi@reddit
I’ve already moved to a lower stress, less money job that I enjoy, mortgage is paid off. I take home more than £400 a week and get school holidays. It’s definitely a no. Appreciate I’m lucky but my income will be better than this when I do decide I’ve had enough and retire.
Obscure-Oracle@reddit
No, I still have 30 years of work left in me and I would get bored as hell. It seems like a lot of money once you take into consideration the limited bills but you would spend more doing hobbies to keep yourself busy so in reality it would be a shit existence. I think not accomplishing anything would slowly push you into depression, which is fine in your older years when you can't work but I wouldn't want that at my age.
Ok_Young1709@reddit
Yep that would do easily.
Electronic-Bus-5350@reddit
No because then what sit at home all day? I would have no money for a social life or a holiday, ever! I couldn't do it. Also no spare money for home improvements or clothes. It seems kinda depressing.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Nothing left over at all? Wow how much are you spending on food and utilities?
Electronic-Bus-5350@reddit
I.dont know my husband does the shop, there probably would be money left but I'm a student nurse and hoping for a decent retirement fund.
Viking-Bastard-XIV@reddit
No. I like to eat well and do things. You’re doing bugger all on that money after utilities etc.
What’s the point in retiring if you can’t do anything?
Embarrassed-Dig-8180@reddit
If you currently have more than 1700 after mortgage/rent, than I can see where you are coming from.
OverlyAdorable@reddit
£1,600 for a flat 4 week month? That's already 1.5x as much as I currently earn and I manage
ScaredPractice4967@reddit
Not even close to enough. £800pm would be tricky.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
It's £400 a week, roughly £1700 PCM.
GreedyAd6191@reddit
I'd do this with £400 a month, easily.
srogijogi@reddit
Yes, I would. I think that a lot of people actually would as this is not £400/w scenario. This is "£400 left after most bills" scenario. Re: Retirement Living Standards: if they publish the numbers people think they would need to be "comfy", then this is pure nonsense. People will always dream of having more and claim that they don't have enough.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Yeh I agree though this can't be a direct match as this is tax free money too, no car. They factor in cars, and tax, but not rent/mortgage.
I think they massively overstate the amount people need. Though when asked, people often say how much do you want when you retire at 60 and a lot of people will answer in the millions so... horses for courses?
srogijogi@reddit
Of course that this type of organisation is going to push for as high as possible numbers. It's all about "you need to be obsessed with saving money for retirement" agenda. There is huge difference in numbers representing what people "need" and what actually people "want" though. Both numbers, especially if looking into distant future, are meaningless anyway. We don't know how well economy will do in few decades from now, we don't know anything about the distant future costs of living, medical treatments, etc.
CriticalCentimeter@reddit
They're mostly funded by pension outfits, so they have a vested interest in inflated figures
romeo__golf@reddit
Absolutely not. My current expenditure, excluding housing/bills, is around £2,500/month (£575/week) and I'd have to make uncomfortable sacrifices to accommodate this drop.
1968Bladerunner@reddit
Piece of cake. Piece of crumb cake.
Bullet4MyEnemy@reddit
I’m making money out of my hobbies as a side hustle so I would be able to switch to that full time.
Dream scenario.
melancholyy-scorpio@reddit
Considering this is more than I currently receive now (apprenticeship) yes I absolutely would.
BigFloofRabbit@reddit
That is the same as my weekly income now, except I am being worked to the bone for 37.5 hours a week. So yes
MoneyManLewis4267@reddit
A week? Sure.
That is £1,733/month
Utilities: £200-£260/month Band C/D with single person discount): £100-£130/month
Food: £220-£350/month depending on how fancy I eat
Insurance, phone, etc.: £50/month
That's roughly £570-£790/month in essentials. Leaves £900+ for discretionary spending, savings, hobbies, travel. No brainer for me - I'd retire tomorrow. The idleness worry is real though; I'd probably pick up volunteering or a passion project.
TheFlyingScotsman60@reddit
Less tax.
Buddy-Matt@reddit
They specified tax free.
And even if it was, thats only about 45 quid a week tax. So still have plenty left over given all the other things that £400 doesnt need to pay for
MountainMuffin1980@reddit
Yeah the issues with what's set out above is no car. And if you have kids the costs can ramp up massively. I'd try it for a bit, but if I did work it would be basic stuff like working in a supermarket. Nothing that's stressful or you take home mentally.
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Maybe I’m missing something, after my mortgage thats equivalent to about a 60k salary?!
MountainMuffin1980@reddit
Yeah it's a good salary for sure! Like I say I'd have to see how it was not working for a year on it and seeing how much I could drive, travel, go on holiday and indulge in my hobbies!
MoneyManLewis4267@reddit
For me I am in London, where transport is more than adequate
OutrageousRhubarb853@reddit
I can help you with that, come do my garden.
EmuComprehensive8200@reddit
Kind funny I know someone almost in this situation now. My man's mum who is 80 this year. She worked as a cleaner or on the tills, but always worked. She married a civil servant in her 20's, who sadly passed 15 years ago, so she gets widows money on top. The house they live in has been in the family since the 1930's, land and house paid off since yonks. Other than utilities, and when she had a health scare, she barely has any outgoings. She saves about €500 a month and has a fat retirement. House is massive, her only son (my man) lives on the top so she is well taken care of. It's split into 2 houses. He gives out about €300 a month in utilities plus his own stuff like car insurance and food. It's proper crazy
mrpeagrub@reddit
Maybe a part time job for something to do and a little extra money
BrummbarKT@reddit
For sure! That's more than I get now and that's with rent and bills to cover. I have zero ambition to work or become a high earner, so this would be a great deal, if the money wasn't coming at the expense of others working (which is why I'm reluctantly working to pay my own way, I don't feel it's fair to scrounge if I am able to work)
Automatic-Use-6714@reddit
400 a month with no car/house:other bills is like 800 a month with them so yeah most people who take that.
Pointless post. Waste of time.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
It's just a bit of fun, and the reason I asked is that in my real life I would take this but when I ask my friends and peers almost all of they say it isn't enough.
paradeofgrafters@reddit
I've been living off £400 a month to a similar scenario for over a year - that is, rent covered by Council Housing Benefits, and the remaining £400 from Universal Credit required to cover utilities, food etc.
I could easily see myself living a comfortable, social life with £400 a week. It'd be a jolt for many, I definitely found the frugal life takes some effort, but after initial adjustments I'd argue most people could live well on this.
Ofc, this would be a totally different situation if I had dependents.
Fattydog@reddit
£1733 per month.
My council tax is £426, energy £200, everything else around £140.
That’d leave around £245 a week which is fine for food and general expenses but takes no account of holidays or a vehicle which is necessary where I live.
CriticalCentimeter@reddit
Your council tax is obscene. Mines a quarter of that
ZanzibarGuy@reddit
This would be crazy where I live at the moment (legal min wage is ~£100pm)
Morton_1874@reddit
Not sure Id want to retire , I do have a side hustle Id continue with and would likely go back to education.
thingymajigg_@reddit
I don't even need to do the maths. 100% yes. That's more than I earn working full time for NHS.
skatemoose@reddit
How many hours are you working? That would be a hourly rate of £11.99, or £12 if rounded up, if you're working 40hr a week, which is less than minimum wage.
thingymajigg_@reddit
Sorry, I should have stipulated "after deductions"!
SushiRollFried@reddit
If we exclude number 8 then yes, no doubt.
Rhym3z_Official@reddit
Absolutely. Not even a question
ScumBucket33@reddit
If my wife was on the same then sure but not if I was to be the only source of income.
Opening_Barf@reddit
£400 a week is more than I earn now, so yeah, sign me up
b-ees@reddit
essentially my take home pay but without working a dead end job. hell yeah brother
JoeThrilling@reddit
I had £240 to live on last month, including bills this would be a life of luxury.
Arabatta@reddit
That’s just under what I earn now so sure!
kiradax@reddit
I'd be living better than I am now
dienices@reddit
£400 pay rise? Absolutely!
snarkmaiden5@reddit
400 a week? Thats more than I earn now. I wish...
TheLittleSquire@reddit
You need a better job
im-hippiemark@reddit
Point me in the direction of one then please.
TheLittleSquire@reddit
www.indeed.co.uk
Picnata@reddit
What a worthless and unhelpful response
TheLittleSquire@reddit
I was asked to point them in the direction I did 🤷♂️
Dai_Bando@reddit
That would make me significantly better off than I currently am working a 37hr week in social care.
Front_Phone_7760@reddit
No, sounds like a pretty average retirement.
HarrryManback@reddit
Not in the UK.
rooh62@reddit
Yeah absolutely. That’s close to what i earn a month now, and half of it wouldn’t have to go towards rent & council tax
romulus_remus420@reddit
Thats more than I have coming in before my bills atm, so absolutely.
Alasdair91@reddit
Yes. I’d do it for £200 if I’ve got no big bills.
BarNo3385@reddit
Probably close, with all the caveats about no mortgages, dependents etc.
Whether its inflation proofed is a big deal, and whilst thats somewhat more than our underlying spend today we have the flexibility of being able to reduce savings etc in a given month to pay for emergencies. If total income shrinks so does ability to reallocate funds to deal with hits.
£1700 a month probably therefore on the low side.
£2000 index linked, probably yes.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Yeh it's adjusted for inflation as stated :)
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
No chance. When I'm retired I want to live the good life, not the bare minimum.
retiredblade@reddit
Your taxes on everything over £ 12750 a year so you wouldn’t get £400 a week
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
It's tax free. I should have stated, I edited a bit ago.
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
That's basically minimum wage but without the cost of housing which is like 50% of my outgoings so absolutely.
_Denizen_@reddit
"How much do you earn?" - I fixed the question for you
DB-DanCooper@reddit
Its about what I'm on now working. I'd just go part time here.
SlightlyIncandescent@reddit
I'm working purely to pay my way until I retire, if I had the option of half of that I'd try to make that work so would definitely do 400
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
Yes, easily. I live an unassuming lifestyle anyway and have no really expensive hobbies.
Assuming I could have a small boat in a marina in lieu of a house, I could probably live the life of Riley in 400 a week.
Are you offering? ;)
Kharenis@reddit
Nope, lifestyle creep is real, and there are certain things I wouldn't want to give up that I'd have to if I were on that much.
Zubi_Q@reddit
Easily! My bills come to like £300 max a month
Beartato4772@reddit
Yes but that's a horrible life.
EmuComprehensive8200@reddit
Kinda funny I know someone almost in this situation now. My man's mum who is 80 this year. She worked as a cleaner or on the tills, but always worked. She married a civil servant in her 20's, who sadly passed 15 years ago, so she gets widows money on top. The house they live in has been in the family since the 1930's, land and house paid off since yonks. Other than utilities, and when she had a health scare, she barely has any outgoings. She saves about €500 a month and has a fat retirement. House is massive, her only son (my man) lives on the top so she is well taken care of. It's split into 2 houses. He gives out about €300 a month in utilities plus his own stuff like car insurance and food. It's proper crazy
AnAncientOne@reddit
Yeah roughly, I was thinking £2k per month would be enough. Pay your bills, live and a treat or 2. I think the big thing is hobbies, gotta have stuff to do and those usually cost money
craigybacha@reddit
Right now... No. But I'd be happy with that if I was 60-65.
Jaded-Sport2483@reddit
Oi! I'm in that age bracket and I still enjoy life to the full, spending as much as I did when I was in my 30s.
Bigglez1995@reddit
Absolutely
itsmetsunnyd@reddit
That woudnt even cover food and utilities lol
L4I55Z-FAIR3@reddit
Maybe £1600 a month minuses on average £400 for basic shopping, £170 for utilities, £170 for council tax that just leaves £860 again just using averages.
£860 is plenty for disposable cash assuming costs stay the same. You might struggle if any surprises come up like your boiler packs in.
DukeSunday@reddit
"Would you like to reduce your housing costs to ~£300 a month?"
Yes please.
CynicalRecidivist@reddit
I get paid less than that now so yes!
BrightPomelo@reddit
Just wondering how many have somewhere to live securely without paying rent - or having paid off a mortgage? And if the latter, never have any maintenance to budget for?
172116@reddit
In my 30s, no. Hell, probably not in my 60s or 70s, given the lifestyle my parents and grandparents were able to keep up at those ages. 80s or 90s, sure, why not?
That's equivalent to a pre-tax salary of £24k, or just over minimum wage.
I would go down to part time work if I had a guaranteed income at that level.
Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit
Allow for clothing, maintenance of home, insurance, travel eg. for food, presents for family … anything else?
Amazing-Visual-2919@reddit
Yeah.
And I'm really not sure why those pension figures are so high. People must be living on caviar.
Flat_Development6659@reddit
Nah, realistically you wouldn't want to retire until you're in a position where both you and your partner can retire and \~£1200 per month after bills isn't much split between two people.
If I was given an extra £400 per week it'd just mean a maxed out ISA contribution each year and then early retirement, it wouldn't be enough to retire right now.
Dismal_Fox_22@reddit
£32k to retire?! Most people I know don’t make 32k from working full time. And they are paying mortgages or worse rent.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
£20,800 a year.
No_Thought_1492@reddit
Absolutely. I don’t even make 400 quid a week now.
Cultural_Tank_6947@reddit
No, I would not.
My council tax, utilities, internet and SIM only deal are about £125/week.
I cant imagine groceries to be less than £50/week for a single person.
That leaves me with about £225 per week for everything else. Fine if nothing goes wrong, but certainly not enough to have a couple of decent holidays.
I'd like to do more than just survive.
TheDisapprovingBrit@reddit
£400 is just the right amount to make this a pretty tough question, and it would depend on what circumstances led me to those stipulations. Right now, my wife would be considered a dependent, since she's disabled and unable to work. Walking away from her to take £400 a week isn't even a question.
If she's along for the ride and we have £400 a week each then I'm all in, but otherwise I think that would be a little too tight to look after us both if I'm just sitting around all day with no work.
Lanky_Bus_1221@reddit
Yep in a heartbeat
Farscape_rocked@reddit
That's plenty enough for me. I like work though, I'd want to finish off a few things I've got going on so I'd wait a couple of years.
TheLadyHelena@reddit
That's not much less than I'm earning, working full time - only without a mortgage, debts or car to pay for? I'm in. When can I start?
segundovolante7@reddit
No.
I think I'd end up bored out of my mind and blowing all that money on hookers and blow.
WeSavedLives@reddit
I find can never understand this sentiment. Except the hookers and blow. That makes perfect sense
segundovolante7@reddit
Ahaha idk man I just get bored easily, I'm not saying I love my job too much to give it up, but if I wasn't at work I'd be bored.
EuphoricCover8449@reddit
Perfect retirement plan.
segundovolante7@reddit
Retiring before 40 is the dream tbh!
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Yes lad 10/10
-mmmusic-@reddit
£400 a week is not a lot less than i currently earn. all i'd have to do is start paying utilities and i'm all good!
i'm 20, i still live with my parents. i only pay £200/month in board, £7/month phone bill, and then insurance, tax and maintenance on a car when i get one in july
CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit
A WEEK? yes sign me up
In 25 years.
Dave_Ex_Machina@reddit
Sign me up
ColdShadowKaz@reddit
This would be incredible.
Kimbo-BS@reddit
Tax free? Sure.
Live abroad in a low cost country and be pretty well off.
Save frugually until you can get enough in savings/investments to boost your income.
Buy a house to rent it out.
Lots of options.
roddz@reddit
That's more than I have left after everything you said I no longer have to pay for so absolutely
Vaxtez@reddit
Yeah, i'd be fine
I'm a student living off £70 a week; i'll take £400 gladly
64gbBumFunCannon@reddit
Would I retire on a minimum wage 40 hour weeks wage?
Fuck yes. (40*12.71=508, but after tax at 20% it's about 400)
1600 a month, but with no debt, or rent, or mortgage, and just basic bills? You'd have loads of money left if you're not stupid with it.
Almanis46@reddit
£1733/month as it is weekly. Extra bit of beer money...
SpickleRotley@reddit
I get this now on disability and I’m slowly spiralling into debt.
People listing their estimated expenditure, that’s all well and good on paper, but one leaking garage roof repair and a couple of car repairs later (my own cheap car, I certainly can’t afford a Mobility car, despite what the Gammons will have you believe) and I’m now approaching £5000 on credit card debt alone.
m1nkeh@reddit
Hmm.. it’d be tight, but perhaps.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Utility bills only, yeh. And food, plus consumables like washing up powder, loo roll.
A night out can be a lot if you pay for everyone but surely if you're going out in this thought experiment those children would be grown and not asking you to pay for them :)
m1nkeh@reddit
We don’t split bills.. we take turns :)
EyeAware3519@reddit
I couldn't imagine how boring my life would be if I didn't have a car, so no.
NewtRider@reddit
It'll be tight at times. But yes/maybe.
500 a week would be better xd
rockdecasba@reddit
I have a budget of £160 a week after bills so yes
WeSavedLives@reddit
Of course
madnasher@reddit
I mean I currently earn £470 a week after tax so I'd take it....
PurpleOctopus6789@reddit
No. £400 a week (approx. £1600) is nothing. And utilities make majority of people's bills anyway (except rent/morgage). That's very little money if you want to do anything but just survive.
Also, I like my work, it's a passion of mine. And it's flexible. And I've got expensive hobbies. It's a no from me.
slb609@reddit
me too. My council tax is >25% of that.
If I downsized into the city, then maybe. But it's cutting it fine.
Kvark33@reddit
Absolutley
TowerHou@reddit
About £1000/month in discretionary spending is way higher than average, in this scenario you wouldn't need to save.
Yes, I would have unlimited time to work on personal projects to top up the income. But if I would be forced to be completely idle, then I would not retire. I'd get crazy within a few months.
Captlard@reddit
r/leanfireuk folk might
MoreUnadventurous@reddit
Yes. Free time is way more important to me than cars, foreign holidays etc. and housing is my biggest cost. I agree that those figures for retirement sounds very high assuming you have no housing costs, dependants etc..
CurvePuzzleheaded361@reddit
Probably yes. If i cut down on some of my expensive purchases, clothes, perfumes etc then yes I could manage I think. May not be super fun but wouldnt be miserable.
getoutmywayatonce@reddit
I’m 30 and I’d prefer more. It’s doable though don’t get me wrong. But people underestimate how expensive it can be to retire enjoyably. Plenty find they have decent health longer than they anticipated and filling a fuck load of free time can get costly.
I’d be alright for a bit, but after some time I’d have probably spunked my entire weekly £400 on stationary in the post office at 9:01am on a Monday because I’m in the “browsing random places out of mind numbing boredom” stage lol.
PurpleOctopus6789@reddit
No. £400 a week (approx. £1600) is nothing. And utilities make majority of people's bills anyway (except rent/morgage). That's very little money if you want to do anything but just survive.
Also, I like my work, it's a passion of mine. And it's flexible. And I've got expensive hobbies. It's a no from me.
RS_Phil@reddit (OP)
Since 2019, food makes up most of mine, and I don't eat super fancy. Far from it.
Alternative_Week_117@reddit
I work for the Nhs, that's basically my wage. Fortunately my partner gets a lot more so I'd happily give up my shit job.
Ill-Opportunity8918@reddit
It's easily enough with no mortgage.
AWingedVictory1@reddit
Maybe with £4000 a week
SurpriseGlad9719@reddit
At first I thought this was £400 a month and I was genuinely considering if I could survive on that with no bills.
Then I reread it. And read it a third time.
Then tried to sign so hard I scratched the screen.
Wonderful-Cow-9664@reddit
Yeah, as long as that’s just my income and my husband also has £400 a week-I have many cats, their food alone costs a small fortune 🤣
aristoo@reddit
That's more then I live on right now after Bills and rent, so yeah, easily.
PuzzleheadedFold503@reddit
...that is about 4x my current budget.
Yes.
pobox1663@reddit
Of course
Snappy0@reddit
Borderline but doable, especially if the Mrs was in the same boat, which left us with £3200 every 4 weeks to pay bills.
We'd obviously still use that money to have a car because we live somewhere with non-existent public transport for the most part.
TheDawiWhisperer@reddit
Probably, I have about £1200 disposable income a month and that's plenty
No_Site_1052@reddit
Oh yes. 100%. I currently work full time and only make about about 2K a month anyway... 1600 for not working and no debt would do me just fine.
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
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Ashamed_Housing7489@reddit
Retire to south east Asia
Specific_Pomelo_8281@reddit
Yes definitely. I reckon I could live on £400 a month! I’ll spend the rest on going away.
ohnoitshimagain10@reddit
I already do that, state pension + 400 a month private pension, Id rather live with less than carry on working
anoamas321@reddit
£1600 with no rent/mortage and i assume no kids to pay for? Sign me up it take that today!
Intruder313@reddit
Easily - I’d have a lot left over
fernofry@reddit
If just paying for food and utilities then yes. After my mortgage and travel costs to work, I've living on less than that already.
twinkletots1@reddit
South East, my parents retired on less in exactly the same circumstances, years later got payouts from inheritance, but managed fine before. Awesome for them, earned every bit of it
Available-Spray2576@reddit
Retire? We get to do that?
ElusiveCrab@reddit
I lived on uc for almost a year and that was like 600 odd a month to cover everyyhing. 400 a week without rent and bills would leave me better off than i am now working lol
Mammoth-Passion-413@reddit
Yes. I did on £350 - Own my own place and have no Mortgage.
Head_Priority5152@reddit
Well that's really not much less than I take home for a full time job and I have far more bills than just the utilities so yes definitely
Unlikely_Doughnut845@reddit
I think a lot of people forget how low some people’s take-home pay is
A couple of people at work today were talking about someone who wants to retire extra early and how that person SAVES £2000 a month
I had to bite my tongue
PTCGTrader@reddit
People are “retiring” from society on significantly much less right now on UC.
This is a dream upgrade for a majority of people who already live this way.
SteamerTheBeemer@reddit
They’re not really though are they? Since you can’t get universal credit unless you’re actively seeking work. And it’s very much too little for anyone to live on happily.
spinningdice@reddit
In the North hell yes, that's not that much less than my take-home paycheck and not having to hit Rent, debt repayments and car expenses would put me a fair bit better off than I am now.
Snowyrunt@reddit
Yes, without a shadow of a doubt.
As a side note, I find it absolutely mental that people struggle with the idea of idleness just because they're not working anymore. Your purpose should never, ever, be working. Particularly when it's for someone else.
MercuryJellyfish@reddit
£400 on hand? Absolutely.
gettin-swole@reddit
Some people don’t earn that…
SianBeast@reddit
My idle hands would easily find idle work tbf.. I have so many interests that I never have time for because of having to have a job. I mean, I know I'm not unique in that or anything, but it does make me sad sometimes. I've joked quite openly with my partner that if he earned enough I'd jack my job in (possibly drop in and out of part time if I got bored) so that I could invest all my time in my hobbies and interests.
Alas, the 21st century doth not afford that sort of luxury to the average Joe.
All that to say, yeah, I probably would..
DaVirus@reddit
100%. Under these circumstances I could make it work with half.
Proud_Ad_8915@reddit
Definitely yes, that's a lot more than I get now
PepsiMaxSumo@reddit
My mum essentially did this in 2020, but she has an older paid off car.
Downsized to a 2 bed to get rid of the mortgage and changed from being a teacher to a shorter hours and less physical minimum wage job she can leave at work and doesn’t have to think about at home.
She’s 10 years from actual retirement but she’s coasting for a decade now.
SnoopyLupus@reddit
Borderline, but yeah.
I just got made redundant in January, Adams I’m thinking I might be retired, because I think £400 a week might work until my pensions kick in. Not sure. But maybe.
Plastic-Factor-9467@reddit
On an average month I spend less than that (£1600). And that's including a small mortgage and owning a car.
bluephoenix39@reddit
Nope, I have too many hobbies that if I had the free time to do would get far too expensive quickly
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