UK Xennials, what spelling were you taught for "Juniour"?
Posted by Cool-Word2409@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 40 comments
Hi all,
I have spelled it Juniour my entire life, having been taught this spelling at school some time in the late 80s or early 90s.
I'm used to spellcheck telling me it's wrong, but I put that down to my company's computers thinking we're French (a bug IT could never fix), but recently colleagues have started to correct me, which I find annoying.
I'm curious, was anyone else taught this spelling or am I unique?
Tamuzz@reddit
The spelling "Juniour" was common prior to the 18th century and want considered obsolete until into the 19th century.
Maybe your teacher was just really really old
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
I remember her being old, but then anyone passed 30 looks old to a kid!
Exciting-Argument-67@reddit
She may have been taught it, and was reluctant to let go of the old spelling, even though it had been long, long undone. (If it's true that it was obsolete in the 19th century, we're talking about the 1800s. But maybe Tamuzz meant the 20th century/1900s.)
Tamuzz@reddit
No, I meant the 19th century as in the 1800s.
She would have to have been REALLY old.
Secure_Bed_9110@reddit
Lmao, I'm Canadian and we use British spelling and it has never been 'juniour', lol. Neighbour, harbour, armour, etc., yes. I'm guessing you just (mistakenly) carried that over to 'junior.'
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
I don't think I did mistakenly do that: I had to learn the word as part of a group of words and was quizzed every Monday morning: I could never get the word Because right, so was stuck on this group of words for weeks.
I suspect my teacher just really liked the obsolete spelling!
Secure_Bed_9110@reddit
Not obsolete, lol. *Wrong spelling.
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
As another commentator said, it's an obsolete spelling of the word.
Secure_Bed_9110@reddit
The other commenter was wrong about the word as well. It's not obsolete. Obsolete means that it was once considered the correct spelling, and simply changed/updated, or fell out of fashion, etc., and that's not the case.
It was more commonly wrongly used way back when, as that comment said, (probably due to the differences in literacy and education among varying socioeconomic populations in the 1700s), but it was always still wrong, just more commonly incorrectly used when widespread access to education was less available, one assumes (as you might expect). Those who were teaching and reading the word, were always using the correct spelling of 'junior.'
psyclopsus@reddit
lol that ‘obsolete spelling’ reply has big “I’m sorry you think I wronged you” energy. It’s ok to be wrong guys, shit happens and you don’t need to try to game out some tricky way wherein you’re not really just wrong
Exciting-Argument-67@reddit
It's possible! School English teachers are known to teach old rules long after they've ceased to be rules, or will teach their own personal preference, even if it's wrong. It happens. The only mistake is if you doggedly defend using a defunct rule because "that's the way I was taught." Rules and spellings change.
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
It's going to be hard not putting the U in after over 30 years, but I'll change my ways.
SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit
Man, them Brits sure have a surplus on u's.
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
Ha!
ImprovementThat2403@reddit
We let you have one to make your American States, United, you're welcome and happy 250 years of having to go it alone without us.
ImprovementThat2403@reddit
I hate to break it to you but “Juniour” is just a misspelling. I’m a UK Xen, I’m post graduate educated, practice focused on law and ethics, and I have written close to 8k client briefs and court submissions, alongside journal articles for publications with peer review and editorial oversight.
I have always spelled it using the correct British English, which is junior. You can check this in old paper copies of the OED, which I have just done because you had me extremely worried for about a minute.
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
Thank you for the upvote, didn't realise I'd been downvoted.
My education went through to a Masters degree, and at no point do I remember anyone ever correcting my essays or thesis: either I rarely used the word, or everyone thought it was a spelling error.
It's going to be hard training myself to spell it without the U, I've grown attached to it!
ImprovementThat2403@reddit
You may have just come across one of those terrible teachers. I had a few over the years that just passed on completely incorrect knowledge. Take for example "cuckoo spit" that my teacher in primrary school insisted was just sap from the plant. I tried to argue it was made by a bug eating the plant and that my father, a professor of botany at a red brick university, had told me this. Other children wouldn't have it, teacher was right, and so goes 25 young minds out the door with the wrong information.
My very first job before deciding to go into the law was working a teacher, the power you have is staggering, perhaps less so know with the ability for children to fact check in an instant, but back then the word of the teacher was the single source of truth.
Tzunamitom@reddit
Maybe you’re just too juniour to know the correct spelling?
ImprovementThat2403@reddit
uncle_monty@reddit
I'm a stickler for using the U in proper English spelling, but there is no U in junior.
SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit
Well...technically there is, but only the one.
Hippadoppaloppa@reddit
It's always been junior for me
TiEmEnTi@reddit
Wtf...
Drum_Eatenton@reddit
Do you pick boogours out of your nose?
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
You mean bogeys, not boogers.
Any-Republic-4269@reddit
Jouniour
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
Thank you all for your replies.
I suspect my teacher was a stickler for the old (ancient) ways. It's not something I've mistakenly done myself as I distinctly remember having to spell it on Monday mornings as part of our spelling sessions: we had lists of 6/7 words which we had to spell correctly before moving onto the next list. This particular list had "juniour" and "because": it took me weeks to learn how to spell "because" so I got quite good at spelling all the other words in that group.
BritOnTheRocks@reddit
Um, no. And i went to a Junior School.
PaperMoongazer@reddit
How do you spell ‘senior’?
Derrick_Mur@reddit
“Seniour”, presumably
Cool-Word2409@reddit (OP)
Ooh, good question; just as you have.
pixienightingale@reddit
I'm in the US, so... junior it is.
Prestigious_Egg_6207@reddit
OP specifically asked UK Xennials.
pixienightingale@reddit
Ah, that's fair
UltraLlamatron@reddit
I’m from the UK and spelling it juniour looks so weird to me that I wondered if it meant something else. I have always only ever spelt it junior.
UltraLlamatron@reddit
Come to think of it, I went to junior school before senior school!
Absentmat2@reddit
I have never seen it written like that
Stratospheric-Ferret@reddit
Indeed.
I am a bit of an anti-Americanism fascist, but I've never seen anything other than junior.
Orongorongorongo@reddit
Not UK but from NZ and we follow British English spelling. We have always spelt it as "junior".