Mexico’s military captures top cartel leader in another blow to the Jalisco New Generation Cartel
Posted by thinkB4WeSpeak@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 25 comments
CrunchyCds@reddit
This strategy never works. you can't just keep taking out cartel leaders, other gang members are more than happy to take their place. The way to curb the cartels is to choke off their sources of money and address the socio and economic issues that drive people to joint he cartel to begin with. They have been killing cartel leaders for decades and it has barely moved the needles. And we have seen in history time and time again between the mobsters in New York back int he 30s and the Yakuza in Japan, you have to stop the money, not the leaders.
21shadesofblueberry@reddit
They've been trying to, the biggest problem is the US is such a huge market for drugs and weapons it makes it impossible for them to control it. The best thing to do is legalize recreational drugs to limit violence and move justice to the courts instead of the streets similar to the end of prohibition.
Samiel_Fronsac@reddit
Drugs go in, weapons come out. You can't explain that.
Kdave21@reddit
The only country that has dealt with this problem with good results is El Salvador. Other Latin American countries should follow suit
Dx_Suss@reddit
El Salvador terminated their democracy and YOLO'd their economy into crypto-currency, so now their main source of cash is renting out space in their concentration camps to the US.
This does not seem like a long term solution.
Kdave21@reddit
I feel like your domestic political views are getting in the way of acknowledging the level of violence reduction they have achieved. Bukele has one of the highest political supports of any politician in the world, because the Salvadoran people would rather have him than the rampant violence they witnessed before him.
Any solution is preferable to the cartels, and you cannot enact liberal democracy in a state overrun with cartels. I would hope that El Salvador moves in that direction now, but I would still prefer to live in El Salvador now compared to 10-15 years ago.
No state exists without problems, but El Salvador has moved in the positive direction for its outcome towards its citizens
Dx_Suss@reddit
I'm Latin American Cleetus, this is my domestic view.
eggdanyjon_3dragons@reddit
Theres also the allegations of mutual bribery amongst government and cartel leaders to quiet down, and target rivals.
GooberMcNutly@reddit
Doesn't this just mean that the military is working for whomever their competition is? "Taking down" a cartel is just window dressing for lowering the operating costs and raising the profit of the next cartel in line.
IntentionDependent22@reddit
yes. every Mexican president makes a big deal of taking down one of the cartels. it always just so happens to be a cartel associated with their political rivals. rinse. repeat.
Djonso@reddit
Good news for mexico I assume. Don't know what the reality is of course but they have pretty big pr problem because of cartels so great to read something positive for a change
ThatOneDrunkUncle@reddit
This is the U.S. fault. Trump is pressuring the Mexican govt to go after cartels and these poor folks just trying to make a living are now unjustly suffering in jail, people are without work in an economically challenged country, and now can’t freely go to the U.S. to get tax free jobs. This is right up there with Gaza genocides and the Tehran leadership massacres as the worst things in human history directly attributable to Trump.
JesseVykar@reddit
Are you implying the cartel members are "poor folks trying to make a living"?
ThatOneDrunkUncle@reddit
They are just trying to sell their agricultural products to a willing US market
XxsteakiixX@reddit
lol the way you typed this made me think of that scene from "margin call"
struct_iovec@reddit
That's because it is.
Drugs are a commodity like any other
XxsteakiixX@reddit
true that and i love me some GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD commodity!
HammurabiWithoutEye@reddit
He's being facetious
JesseVykar@reddit
Sorry I'm not very smart
struct_iovec@reddit
Terrible news for Mexico, instability causes chaos which leads to violence
I-Here-555@reddit
Great news. There'll be increased violence and fighting between factions for a while, until the new leader emerges.
Drugs and money will keep flowing as usual.
expendable117@reddit
Which is probably for the best. Rather than having them consolidate because that will happen if left unchecked.
waiver@reddit
Not the best for the people killed in the crossfire
half-baked_axx@reddit
Meh this is all smoke and mirrors to make Trump shut up. The cartels are deep inside the military. The president herself cannot change things unless top military brass are purged. Just read about General Cienfuegos. Te lo digo como Mexicano. It's all a show.
reddit_is_geh@reddit
May not be a bad idea. That's how Italy went. The mob basically just had so much power and corrupted the government so much, that they effectively absorbed each other and then the mob became legitimately the government, and then legitimately normalized.